Petition: Hall of Monuments Changes
ravensong
I agree with all written in first post!
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Alimar
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I agree with all of it. The armor should show the armor you have. Not just a piece of it. Also I think it would be good for any type of armor to go up. A lot of people don't play as much as others. So how are they supposed to get 15k armor?
I want to display my PVE titles too.
It should be account based, also titles.
It should also have a statue of your character. For that achievement you should of finished all 3 campaigns.(for the monument of devotion)
For the Monument of Valor, I really want to put my other weapons there. I don't want it to be restricted. I cant put my chaos axes and storm bows, etc. because they aren't red weapons. That really frustrates me.
There are also many other opinions that I have. Just ask me on my Profile.
I agree with all of it. The armor should show the armor you have. Not just a piece of it. Also I think it would be good for any type of armor to go up. A lot of people don't play as much as others. So how are they supposed to get 15k armor?
I want to display my PVE titles too.
It should be account based, also titles.
It should also have a statue of your character. For that achievement you should of finished all 3 campaigns.(for the monument of devotion)
For the Monument of Valor, I really want to put my other weapons there. I don't want it to be restricted. I cant put my chaos axes and storm bows, etc. because they aren't red weapons. That really frustrates me.
There are also many other opinions that I have. Just ask me on my Profile.
LifeInfusion
1. Account Based
Anyone who bought extra slots to PLAY with (not use as storage) got a big slap in the face.
Anyone who got LDOA/Legendary Survivor on a second character since their first character could not, got a slap in the face.
Anyone who did not do Treasure Hunter/Wisdom/Sweet Tooth/Drunkard on their primary character (for lore reasons or otherwise), got a slap in the face.
See where I'm going with this?
My thinking is that the Hall itself should be character based in terms of denoting which character did it, but account based in the sense that all achievements should be shown (sort of like PVP unlocks).
Some people have a family trophy case, I don't see why Hall of Monuments couldn't be like that.
As for rewards in GW2, it is undeniable you inherit stuff from all portions of your family. Maybe your grandfather gave you a _______, your godmother gave you a _________, your grandmother gave you a _________, your uncle gave you a ______________.
2. Monument of Devotion
I keep all my minis in storage, since I don't see putting them on one character. I know that you can show them in explorable zones too, but most times people/players that are half decent care more about the mob beating on their face than the minis running around.
Customization means that you can just use it on one character. What happens when I switch characters? It probably should be account-based customization and account-based rewards for GW2.
3. The Monument of Honor
I can see why Rank 9 is needed for PvP titles, as rewards in GW2 most likely require high ranks. But why reward only the most hardcore?
Personally I think they should just use the emotes for Rank, as the monument trinket on the stand. That way it rewards all ranks >3.
Champion should be acknowledged regardless of rank, however.
PVE should get acknowledgments for everything as well.
4. The Monument of Valor
Should display whatever player has that is customized and rare. Don't know about greens, seeing as how there are numerous copies of them. Perhaps endgame greens (like the ones you get from Nightfall/Factions)?
I don't see any reason for >4 spaces given that you can only use 4 weapon slots.
5. The Monument of Resilience
100% needs to display what armor you actually have.
Needs to support mixes :/ (Granted my ele uses a full set but my other characters don't)
6. Accessibility to HoM
"Go to Hall of Monuments" should be a button in the Titles tab, IMO.
7. Monument of Fellowship
Should show the actual pets and hero armor. (Why bother upgrading armor with Primeval if you show the normal armor anyway?)
Account based is the way to go for the requirement of level 20 pets, by all means.
AFTERWORD
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All in all, we have to keep in mind the storage capacity of Arenanet's servers will be taxed by the amount of things recorded (unless they are polled by the server from things like Titles).
Then you also have to keep in mind the space on the relatively small stands.
Anyone who bought extra slots to PLAY with (not use as storage) got a big slap in the face.
Anyone who got LDOA/Legendary Survivor on a second character since their first character could not, got a slap in the face.
Anyone who did not do Treasure Hunter/Wisdom/Sweet Tooth/Drunkard on their primary character (for lore reasons or otherwise), got a slap in the face.
See where I'm going with this?
My thinking is that the Hall itself should be character based in terms of denoting which character did it, but account based in the sense that all achievements should be shown (sort of like PVP unlocks).
Some people have a family trophy case, I don't see why Hall of Monuments couldn't be like that.
As for rewards in GW2, it is undeniable you inherit stuff from all portions of your family. Maybe your grandfather gave you a _______, your godmother gave you a _________, your grandmother gave you a _________, your uncle gave you a ______________.
2. Monument of Devotion
I keep all my minis in storage, since I don't see putting them on one character. I know that you can show them in explorable zones too, but most times people/players that are half decent care more about the mob beating on their face than the minis running around.
Customization means that you can just use it on one character. What happens when I switch characters? It probably should be account-based customization and account-based rewards for GW2.
3. The Monument of Honor
I can see why Rank 9 is needed for PvP titles, as rewards in GW2 most likely require high ranks. But why reward only the most hardcore?
Personally I think they should just use the emotes for Rank, as the monument trinket on the stand. That way it rewards all ranks >3.
Champion should be acknowledged regardless of rank, however.
PVE should get acknowledgments for everything as well.
4. The Monument of Valor
Should display whatever player has that is customized and rare. Don't know about greens, seeing as how there are numerous copies of them. Perhaps endgame greens (like the ones you get from Nightfall/Factions)?
I don't see any reason for >4 spaces given that you can only use 4 weapon slots.
5. The Monument of Resilience
100% needs to display what armor you actually have.
Needs to support mixes :/ (Granted my ele uses a full set but my other characters don't)
6. Accessibility to HoM
"Go to Hall of Monuments" should be a button in the Titles tab, IMO.
7. Monument of Fellowship
Should show the actual pets and hero armor. (Why bother upgrading armor with Primeval if you show the normal armor anyway?)
Account based is the way to go for the requirement of level 20 pets, by all means.
AFTERWORD
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All in all, we have to keep in mind the storage capacity of Arenanet's servers will be taxed by the amount of things recorded (unless they are polled by the server from things like Titles).
Then you also have to keep in mind the space on the relatively small stands.
Rhys
/signed
I don't think I have anything more to add to what was previously mentioned.
I don't think I have anything more to add to what was previously mentioned.
onilosmada
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Very disapointed with the current HoM.. account based would be great. Couldn't have laid out the complaints any better then the top post. Please make the changes before the official release this friday.
Very disapointed with the current HoM.. account based would be great. Couldn't have laid out the complaints any better then the top post. Please make the changes before the official release this friday.
Luminarus
I havent voted because i Disagree with all of the options given.
Minipets - All Non-White minipets should be displayable and it should be a minipet storage. Therefore u cant borrow it to get everyone, and u can still trade them amongst ur characters/other people if u want/
Heroes - Fine as is... upgraded armor is understandable. Y you would want to display a hero u got for no effort is beyond me
Pets - Any displayed as long as lvl 20
Armor - What you have on should be displayed. Not to sure about how to fix mixed sets as its to difficult. Still ascended only, no 1k armors should be displayable.
Weapons - Any MAX gold weapon.
Titles - Any MAXED Title and for pvp titles work out a reasonable level. AKA no 60% explorer as that stupid and easy to get... therefore not monument worthy
Thats the way
Minipets - All Non-White minipets should be displayable and it should be a minipet storage. Therefore u cant borrow it to get everyone, and u can still trade them amongst ur characters/other people if u want/
Heroes - Fine as is... upgraded armor is understandable. Y you would want to display a hero u got for no effort is beyond me
Pets - Any displayed as long as lvl 20
Armor - What you have on should be displayed. Not to sure about how to fix mixed sets as its to difficult. Still ascended only, no 1k armors should be displayable.
Weapons - Any MAX gold weapon.
Titles - Any MAXED Title and for pvp titles work out a reasonable level. AKA no 60% explorer as that stupid and easy to get... therefore not monument worthy
Thats the way
Sir Green Aluminum
/signed
Finally, a guru moderator that requests change in the form of a post instead of delete/closing threads he does'nt agree with.
Also, anyone else find it funny that there hasn't been a post by a Anet employ or community manager during/after the preview week reguarding Eye of the North? Or did I not look hard enough?
Finally, a guru moderator that requests change in the form of a post instead of delete/closing threads he does'nt agree with.
Also, anyone else find it funny that there hasn't been a post by a Anet employ or community manager during/after the preview week reguarding Eye of the North? Or did I not look hard enough?
Bond Killuall
/SINGED i agree with EVERYTHING u basically read my mind u amaze me silly ^^
Silly Warrior
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Originally Posted by Bond Killuall
/SINGED i agree with EVERYTHING u basically read my mind u amaze me silly ^^
Lol, thanks man.
Also, I may be making changes to the area that holds Heros. It seems that few people (including myself) agree that having to upgrade your heros to even display them is beyond lame.
I may just add it ^_^
-Silly
Also, I may be making changes to the area that holds Heros. It seems that few people (including myself) agree that having to upgrade your heros to even display them is beyond lame.
I may just add it ^_^
-Silly
Jaythen Tyradel
/signed
Current Flaws in Hall of Monuments:
1. Account Based
I can see some reasons why character based might be more practical, but I do agree that if it it can be account based it will save some headache if not time for players.
2. Monument of Devotion
I like the idea Silly had with the mini pets be customized for the account. Again, saves the player some headache, time to find to buy mini pet, and more importantly time saved not trying to get the gold to buy the minipet they are looking for currently.
3. The Monument of Honor
I am waiting till the full Game is released before I pass judgment on this factor. I will say that if this stays this way, it will discourage many PVE players from trying to obtain titles. In turn, less players maxing out titles, less time for favor. Just over the weekend, primarily due to many people trying out the GWEN preview, favor time crashed from its high around 2000 minutes to about 600 minutes (last I remember on Sunday).
Also, in turn, no reason to bother maxing out PVE titles may mean more people putting not playing the game to play something else.
4. The Monument of Valor
still waiting to see this one in action from some ingame SS to gain a better idea.
Neutral on this monument.
5. The Monument of Resilience
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Current Flaws in Hall of Monuments:
1. Account Based
I can see some reasons why character based might be more practical, but I do agree that if it it can be account based it will save some headache if not time for players.
2. Monument of Devotion
I like the idea Silly had with the mini pets be customized for the account. Again, saves the player some headache, time to find to buy mini pet, and more importantly time saved not trying to get the gold to buy the minipet they are looking for currently.
3. The Monument of Honor
I am waiting till the full Game is released before I pass judgment on this factor. I will say that if this stays this way, it will discourage many PVE players from trying to obtain titles. In turn, less players maxing out titles, less time for favor. Just over the weekend, primarily due to many people trying out the GWEN preview, favor time crashed from its high around 2000 minutes to about 600 minutes (last I remember on Sunday).
Also, in turn, no reason to bother maxing out PVE titles may mean more people putting not playing the game to play something else.
4. The Monument of Valor
still waiting to see this one in action from some ingame SS to gain a better idea.
Neutral on this monument.
5. The Monument of Resilience
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Again, neutral on this idea.
6. Accessibility to HoM
Not needed, IMO, but I like the idea Silly has to have a shortcut key to get to HoM.
7.Upgrades in HoM
Not needed, IMO. Yet again, cant say that it will hurt to have it. Option to make it more like a mini guildhall for yourself could be a nice goldsink.
Jaythen Tyradel
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Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
Lol, thanks man.
Also, I may be making changes to the area that holds Heros. It seems that few people (including myself) agree that having to upgrade your heros to even display them is beyond lame.
I may just add it ^_^
-Silly I don't think having them upgraded in order to have them displayed it lame. However, the drop rate and difficulty of obtaining the upgrade pieces for hero armor is lame. It shouldn't be easy, but yet neither should someone have to buy or use multiple characters to get enough armor drops in order to upgrade all their heros.
Increase the drop rate in the challenge missions (mainly Nightfall since we don't know how we will obtain hero armor upgrade items yet in GWEN) to make it more accessible.
Also, I may be making changes to the area that holds Heros. It seems that few people (including myself) agree that having to upgrade your heros to even display them is beyond lame.
I may just add it ^_^
-Silly I don't think having them upgraded in order to have them displayed it lame. However, the drop rate and difficulty of obtaining the upgrade pieces for hero armor is lame. It shouldn't be easy, but yet neither should someone have to buy or use multiple characters to get enough armor drops in order to upgrade all their heros.
Increase the drop rate in the challenge missions (mainly Nightfall since we don't know how we will obtain hero armor upgrade items yet in GWEN) to make it more accessible.
Luminarus
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Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
Lol, thanks man.
Also, I may be making changes to the area that holds Heros. It seems that few people (including myself) agree that having to upgrade your heros to even display them is beyond lame.
I may just add it ^_^
-Silly How is it lame??? Do you think you should get a title/monument for killing a mob of stone summit in a mission in the shiverpeaks??? No. Why... because it just happens. However, if u do something more difficult such as vanquishing an area, which involves going out of ur way, then you do deserve it.
Same thing with heroes. U get them by playing the game, the quests for them are really easy, and take bout 3 minutes each, bar razah. Should u get a title for monument??? NO.
However, if u go out of your way to upgrade ur heroes so that they are elite, or better then the majority of basic heroes out there then yes they deserve recognition. Frankly I cant see how anyone would believe any different.
Also, I may be making changes to the area that holds Heros. It seems that few people (including myself) agree that having to upgrade your heros to even display them is beyond lame.
I may just add it ^_^
-Silly How is it lame??? Do you think you should get a title/monument for killing a mob of stone summit in a mission in the shiverpeaks??? No. Why... because it just happens. However, if u do something more difficult such as vanquishing an area, which involves going out of ur way, then you do deserve it.
Same thing with heroes. U get them by playing the game, the quests for them are really easy, and take bout 3 minutes each, bar razah. Should u get a title for monument??? NO.
However, if u go out of your way to upgrade ur heroes so that they are elite, or better then the majority of basic heroes out there then yes they deserve recognition. Frankly I cant see how anyone would believe any different.
Shadowspawn X
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Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
Lol, thanks man.
Also, I may be making changes to the area that holds Heros. It seems that few people (including myself) agree that having to upgrade your heros to even display them is beyond lame.
I may just add it ^_^
-Silly I have to dispute this, the heroes display ( Monument of Fellowship )is a reward for doing the challenge missions getting the armors for all your heroes unlocked is an accomplishment. I'm sorry, but logging in and having Koss instantly follow you around is not an accomplishment. Lets keep it real please.
Also, I may be making changes to the area that holds Heros. It seems that few people (including myself) agree that having to upgrade your heros to even display them is beyond lame.
I may just add it ^_^
-Silly I have to dispute this, the heroes display ( Monument of Fellowship )is a reward for doing the challenge missions getting the armors for all your heroes unlocked is an accomplishment. I'm sorry, but logging in and having Koss instantly follow you around is not an accomplishment. Lets keep it real please.
Komradkyle
/signed
Yes I was very angry when i saw that only max pvp titles show up in the honor one. I don't want a representation of my armor I want my actual armor to be shown. I also want mini pets to show up gold,green, and purple and not just white. I would like all weapons to show up. I would like to have more sets shown up in rows rather then just 4 armor sets. I would like a shortcut to hall on the H panel. I would like to select the arrangement of items rather then just click the random arrange. And for god sakes let me show my Pve titles that i spent 4000 hours on.
Yes I was very angry when i saw that only max pvp titles show up in the honor one. I don't want a representation of my armor I want my actual armor to be shown. I also want mini pets to show up gold,green, and purple and not just white. I would like all weapons to show up. I would like to have more sets shown up in rows rather then just 4 armor sets. I would like a shortcut to hall on the H panel. I would like to select the arrangement of items rather then just click the random arrange. And for god sakes let me show my Pve titles that i spent 4000 hours on.
Luminarus
Want a coffee with that???
The Warmonger
/Signed also.
All I unlocked in the HoM was the Heroes, only to find you could only display ones that have upgraded armor. Which is to say none of mine on all 10 characters. Way too much effort/money just to change the look of the heroes.
After that, I figured why bother with any of the rest?
All I unlocked in the HoM was the Heroes, only to find you could only display ones that have upgraded armor. Which is to say none of mine on all 10 characters. Way too much effort/money just to change the look of the heroes.
After that, I figured why bother with any of the rest?
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Luminarus
How is it lame??? Do you think you should get a title/monument for killing a mob of stone summit in a mission in the shiverpeaks??? No. Why... because it just happens. However, if u do something more difficult such as vanquishing an area, which involves going out of ur way, then you do deserve it.
Same thing with heroes. U get them by playing the game, the quests for them are really easy, and take bout 3 minutes each, bar razah. Should u get a title for monument??? NO.
However, if u go out of your way to upgrade ur heroes so that they are elite, or better then the majority of basic heroes out there then yes they deserve recognition. Frankly I cant see how anyone would believe any different. Umm, you get a monument that exclaims all the campaigns you've beaten. You get that by "playing the game." What's wrong with that? That is still effort, even if it is, by your standards, not enough effort.
Besides, have you even seen what is involved to get armor upgrades for the heroes? It's not exactly rocket science. The only issue with it is they become insanely rare drops after the first few. Otherwise, the missions are stupid easy. It takes much more "effort" to just run through the game and get all the heroes.
Hell, I'd say make the only requirement for displaying heroes needing to own a "complete set" for each chapter - so: Olias in Proph, Zenmai in Cantha, the gang in Nightfall, and the new gang in GWEN. That takes more "effort," and doesn't involve unnecessary grinding. That's my vote.
Same thing with heroes. U get them by playing the game, the quests for them are really easy, and take bout 3 minutes each, bar razah. Should u get a title for monument??? NO.
However, if u go out of your way to upgrade ur heroes so that they are elite, or better then the majority of basic heroes out there then yes they deserve recognition. Frankly I cant see how anyone would believe any different. Umm, you get a monument that exclaims all the campaigns you've beaten. You get that by "playing the game." What's wrong with that? That is still effort, even if it is, by your standards, not enough effort.
Besides, have you even seen what is involved to get armor upgrades for the heroes? It's not exactly rocket science. The only issue with it is they become insanely rare drops after the first few. Otherwise, the missions are stupid easy. It takes much more "effort" to just run through the game and get all the heroes.
Hell, I'd say make the only requirement for displaying heroes needing to own a "complete set" for each chapter - so: Olias in Proph, Zenmai in Cantha, the gang in Nightfall, and the new gang in GWEN. That takes more "effort," and doesn't involve unnecessary grinding. That's my vote.
Luminarus
You actually have to bother to finish the campaigns and it takes decent time. I know people who have a total of 2 or 3 that have finished each campaign. Finishing is relatively difficult. On the other hand, getting the heroes you get on the way requires 0 effort.
Wowza... u actually have to OMG work a little bit to get them displayed. OMG UNBELIEVABLE. Ever looked at the price of the hero armors are??? between 5-10k each. Now, if u want to display your heroes reach into your pocket and get out 10k and go buy one. If your heroes arent worth that much to you, why do you even want to go display them???
Wowza... u actually have to OMG work a little bit to get them displayed. OMG UNBELIEVABLE. Ever looked at the price of the hero armors are??? between 5-10k each. Now, if u want to display your heroes reach into your pocket and get out 10k and go buy one. If your heroes arent worth that much to you, why do you even want to go display them???
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Luminarus
Wowza... u actually have to OMG work a little bit to get them displayed. OMG UNBELIEVABLE. Ever looked at the price of the hero armors are??? between 5-10k each. Now, if u want to display your heroes reach into your pocket and get out 10k and go buy one. If your heroes arent worth that much to you, why do you even want to go display them???
I think you're missing my point. How is 5-10k, or c+spacing through easy challenge missions until you get a drop any more complicated than doing the short quests to get the heroes in the first place? Just an unnecessary second step, unless you really like the alternate armors.
Personally, I have several characters with heroes that have upgraded armor, in some cases two extra sets - but only because I like the look of them. Those I don't have extra armor on, I don't like.
I just don't see what that extra requirement means. It's goofy. So, I picked up Master of Whispers along the way, but I can't "prove" he was ever a hero of mine because I never bothered to get him some new threads? I guess all the runes, insignias, and gear I got him wasn't enough. Alright, let's go back to the store...
For the record, I feel the same way about the armors, since I'm a fan of mixing and matching armors of various prices (price matters not to me, only the look of it), but I need "full sets" just to show I ever "earned" it. Though that one I can understand only because it's more of a collection, and it deals directly with your character. Having heroes already deals with your character, I just see no point in having to upgrade their armor, too.
Personally, I have several characters with heroes that have upgraded armor, in some cases two extra sets - but only because I like the look of them. Those I don't have extra armor on, I don't like.
I just don't see what that extra requirement means. It's goofy. So, I picked up Master of Whispers along the way, but I can't "prove" he was ever a hero of mine because I never bothered to get him some new threads? I guess all the runes, insignias, and gear I got him wasn't enough. Alright, let's go back to the store...
For the record, I feel the same way about the armors, since I'm a fan of mixing and matching armors of various prices (price matters not to me, only the look of it), but I need "full sets" just to show I ever "earned" it. Though that one I can understand only because it's more of a collection, and it deals directly with your character. Having heroes already deals with your character, I just see no point in having to upgrade their armor, too.
Luminarus
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Personally, I have several characters with heroes that have upgraded armor, in some cases two extra sets - but only because I like the look of them. Those I don't have extra armor on, I don't like.
Exactly... so why would u consider putting them in the HoM if u dont actually like them.
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Luminarus
Luminarus
Do you view the heroes as part of the identity of your character??? Most likely no, because the heroes are NOT your character. IMO they shouldnt even be involved in the HoM but its not my decision.
If you like your heroes enough to want the in HoM fork over 5k and get them armor, atleast then they are displayed. If not... why care? Ruby Lightheart
/agree
they toughted the HoM as a way for pve and pvp to display their accomplishemtns yet the ones that mean the most to us pve...have been craptacular arcanemacabre
That isn't an explanation as to why it should be as it is. My point is it makes no sense. Simply forking over money to display something you already worked toward is stupid, to put it bluntly. Saying that it should require more effort is irrelevant, because anyone could say it should require even more effort than that, and be topped further. Why just one armor upgrade? Why not all of them? Why not also have the stipulation they must be fully outfitted with max everything? At what level is the amount of "effort" just right, and who determines that?
The monument is designed to display what heroes have joined you on your travels - not what heroes you have dressed up or what heroes you have spent time and money on. That's why I suggest it be made to show heroes only when you acquire a "full set." That is an accomplishment. That requires effort. Not enough? Too much? Who cares. Point is, with this suggestion, you have completed a "collection" just like the armor monument. That makes sense to me. Luminarus
I would agree 100% with that if it were atleast a little bit more difficult to gain the heroes. I have gotten all heroes bar razah on 8 characters, and it was so easy to do I barely remember doing it. Razah is harder, and I have never bothered to get him, however I have been told it isnt too difficult a quest.
Ill repeat this is a hall of achievement. Achievement isnt wat u think is good, but what is actually good. U may be exceedingly proud of ur 60% explorer in 1 continent. 90% of the rest of other people wont care in the slightest about it, because it isnt an achievement. Same thing with heroes. Its simply to show that you have gone to an effort on the hero, not just assumed its right to a place in the Hall coz it exists xjeffmr72x
/signed
I do not want my Perfect req.9 Elemental Sword to have been a waste...I would really love to display it in my HoM for all to see. arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Luminarus
Besides, I think having a requirement of simply gaining the hero and getting their armor upgrade to display them is not enough effort. I believe my suggestion of getting a full set is much more effort. As it is, people can simply make a new character, pick up about half the heroes and get their upgrades in a matter of hours, and already have their hall showing a number of heroes. What I suggest involves having to beat all of Nightfall and do each and every hero quest including Razah to show anything. It's a bigger reward (all heroes) for a bigger effort, IMO. But then again, that's what we're talking about here, isn't it - opinion. Luminarus
Even if it is harder (which I am in no way saying) to get all the heroes.... it requires a far bigger sacrifice to get them their elite armors. 5k vs doing what you are going to do anyway... hmmm. And thats not just 5k... thats 5k+ X The number of heroes u want to display. Thats reaching 20k+ easy. I dont know about you, but I dont chuck out 20k at a whim. Your right... u can show heroes in about 6hrs. However inorder to show them overall its harder to gain the items/money inorder to get them displayed.
Do u make a character to take a little distance and then abandon??? No, you take them to finish the game with. If you didnt, u dont expect them to be monument worthy. If you do u get the heroes. For these reasons your idea is flawed. Anet has it perfect with the heroes. Weapons, Titles, Armor are all fine, and mini pet should become a pet storage system to avoid abuse and adverse consequences to use. Thats my opinion and im going to leave it at that. I'm not going to return to this discussion because I have stated my PoV and there is no point in me repeating it several more times. Darkside
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Originally Posted by Luminarus
Armor - What you have on should be displayed. Not to sure about how to fix mixed sets as its to difficult. Still ascended only, no 1k armors should be displayable.
I don't really agree with that... my main character is a Dervish and I still wear the Elonian Armor that I got when I reached the Consulate docks. I'm not wearing it because I'm poor or because I haven't advanced far in the game. I'm wearing it because I think it's the best looking Dervish armor (so far). So because of that I shouldn't get to display my armor? I've got ancient armor on my Necromancer and Vabbian armor on my Warrior because those are the armors I wanted for those two particular characters but because my dervish is wearing 1k armor it's not worth displaying...that's a little stupid at least to me.
Anyway, I agree that the hall of monuments needs a lot of work; I was disappointed by it. I hope that it was as crappy as it was because they were not finished working on it. I've got a lot of PVE titles that I worked a lot of hours to get yet they are apparently not as important as PVP titles? Abyss1
Hmmmm kinda wondering something reading all this....
I have no PVP accomplishments only PvE and these showed up just fine for me. Hero's & weapons didn't work at all for me , mini's well still need to go through my collection what I want where so no idea. Armor seemed bugged showing of random (think that will be fixed after to be honest) also besides the obvious gateway to GW2,does everyone realize there is a story line function to the HoM and that that can exactlly be why it is character based ?(this is partially unconfirmed as of yet) Yeah sorry only found this out earlier myself so I though I'd add it here. NeHoMaR
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- I agree HoM must display a copy of your character, not a statue representing the armor in general // HoM could also even used as some type of armor storage BTW. - About PvP titles requirement too high: Well, maybe that will give you something related with ONLY the PvP part of GW2, so if you aren't a PvPer ... anyway I agree the requirement look too high, specially the rank12 // at least they plan to easy the titles, look at the future Gladiator one. Hyper Cutter
They need to add a minipet NPC, like the festival hat guy. And register any max title, not just PVP titles.
Also, making the armor monument show the actual armor we put in it would be a nice touch. And while I'm at it, scrap that "upgraded hero armor" requirement on the ally monument and fix the pet statue so it shows exactly what kind of pet you have. And I'm not sure if that weapon monument even worked (My sin tried putting Thunderfist's Knuckles in there and it wouldn't take them), so I don't even know where to start on that one... Darkside
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Originally Posted by Abyss1
I have no PVP accomplishments only PvE and these showed up just fine for me.
Well all it said about me was that I beat all three games and had reached Kind of a big deal on the Kind of a big deal title track. It doesn't say which title(s) I have maxed.
Jaziel
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I was SURE that the only way to go with the HoM was account-based, but nope, A-net in their wisdom decided to make it character-based. So now my 10 PvE characters are going to have one dodgy HoM each instead of an impressive grand-team-effort-HoM. Paint me underwhelmed by the whole thing. Fortunately I was never planning to roll my accomplishments over into GW2...I'd prefer to start afresh anyway. Zahr Dalsk
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Now, I have not seen the hall of monuments yet, but I am told it is character based. As a player who uses multiple characters, I would stand to benefit from account based, rather than character based, as I tend to cycle between characters and never focus absolutely all my attention on one character only. For example my elementalist is my character with the high Sunspear and Lightbringer titles relative to the others... my ranger is the Survivor... my ritualist is the Cartographer... each one has something different, but in the end it was me, the player, who did them, on my characters, not several different people, so in the end splitting them up does not make much sense. mazey vorstagg
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There should be a place for PVE titles. You should be able to show green and gold rare skinned weapons. You should be able to show level 20 heroes without armor upgrades. You should see your armor when you put it in. You should be able to show armor of which you don't have a complete set (for those 'combo' people). It should be account based. Simple. Six things they must fix. If GW is about casual playing then why make a monument to grinding? brave bern
It was a huge anti-climax - I dont mind striving for tapestrys to unlock the displayable, but "Oh My God" - My FoW armour is a nasty Rit and female Sin kit - My PvE titles just "dont count" - Care less about the mini-pets but respect those who do - would have been kinda fun collecting them all I guess - And how about a statue of ME!!! - and if someone accuses me of being a moaner - SO WHAT!
Uber Mass
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Maybe make it account based and drop the heroes and put in statues of your chars? The real heroes SetsunaSamurai
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Resilience needs a serious overhaul. I was lucky to have Warrior show up for my Primeval, not so much for my Luxon. Valor really needs an upgrade as well. 11 slots is all fine and good, but really, shouldn't we be able to display the golds that we've spent hundreds of plat on? Queen
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What about the statues of your real in-game friends? It would be great... |