Who here uses PvX WiKi builds?
street peddler
im laughing at the people who think theyre too good to use a wiki build..(95% of thread)
ensoriki
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Originally Posted by street peddler
im laughing at the people who think theyre too good to use a wiki build..(95% of thread)
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Or stupid...either one.
|Readem|
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Originally Posted by Skuld
For the most part, it's a gigantic e-peen-waving scrubfest.
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Stormcaller
I just use it to get an idea when I don't know what to run on a character I don't play that often or want to try something different.
Most of the builds I take from there I end up changing some of the skills and use my own preferred weapon/armor set that matches my playing style.
Most of the builds I take from there I end up changing some of the skills and use my own preferred weapon/armor set that matches my playing style.
sph0nz
I use PvX.
For professions and hero builds that I don't normally play. Otherwise, I go there when I'm bored and try to get some ideas. If I do download a build, I usually end up modifying it a little bit to my liking.
I don't usually take and use farming builds from there because I don't even farm much anymore.
For professions and hero builds that I don't normally play. Otherwise, I go there when I'm bored and try to get some ideas. If I do download a build, I usually end up modifying it a little bit to my liking.
I don't usually take and use farming builds from there because I don't even farm much anymore.
Rexion
i prefer to be associated with people that use everyone elses epeen.
i make my own builds by looking at the skill page and where to find the boss with the elite skill i need. that is about it.
EDIT: i do use them for heroes, that is where I'm lazy :]
i make my own builds by looking at the skill page and where to find the boss with the elite skill i need. that is about it.
EDIT: i do use them for heroes, that is where I'm lazy :]
Full Metal X
Only time i use PvX is when im making a build on gwShack to copy paste some template, but their always full of fail so I have to sub shit out pretty much only thing its good for.
Diddy bow
rarley, only in a group were i kinda half to, like HA...
Grinch123456
Taking 8 PvXwiki builds (or random builds from any source, really) and putting them together will result in failure each and every time. PvXwiki is only good as a starting point for a possible team build. Ultimately, it's important to think of a team build as 64 skills and not 8 people with 8 skills.
Great for starting some research but just going to obs mode and checking out what the best players is much ultimately better than grabbing a build off of PvXwiki. This can help you glean insight into where you should be when playing it, relevant tactics, timing of skills relative to opposing players, etc.
In low end PvP (RA & AB), PvXwiki really shines though because the comparative lack of skill of the average player in formulating and playing builds compared to yourself which gives you a tremendous advantage with very little effort.
That said, these complaints about PvXwiki can be remedied quickly by merely signing up (or not, it doesn't even matter, you can go as an anonymous user) and fixing these builds you feel are inadequate.
Great for starting some research but just going to obs mode and checking out what the best players is much ultimately better than grabbing a build off of PvXwiki. This can help you glean insight into where you should be when playing it, relevant tactics, timing of skills relative to opposing players, etc.
In low end PvP (RA & AB), PvXwiki really shines though because the comparative lack of skill of the average player in formulating and playing builds compared to yourself which gives you a tremendous advantage with very little effort.
That said, these complaints about PvXwiki can be remedied quickly by merely signing up (or not, it doesn't even matter, you can go as an anonymous user) and fixing these builds you feel are inadequate.
Hyprodimus Prime
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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
Research mostly. I like the feeling of putting together my own build and learning to use it. Starting point/research is a good statement overall. I do use some of the farming builds as a framework moreso than a regular PvE build, but even then I'm likely to form-fit it to myself.
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Messy
I use it quite often...
1- I research new combos for the professions I play.... ex. splinter/ Barrage. Frankly it had not occurred to me.
2- I mostly look at the farming builds, and adjust as needed.
3- If I have to use a paragon, dervish or assassin hero... it's a must, 'cause I have no idea how to play them.
1- I research new combos for the professions I play.... ex. splinter/ Barrage. Frankly it had not occurred to me.
2- I mostly look at the farming builds, and adjust as needed.
3- If I have to use a paragon, dervish or assassin hero... it's a must, 'cause I have no idea how to play them.
Earth
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Originally Posted by street peddler
im laughing at the people who think theyre too good to use a wiki build..(95% of thread)
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Coifmeister
My warrior build i came up with myself and ive never come accross a better build even on wiki.
For other chars i use wiki then modify as i see fit.
For other chars i use wiki then modify as i see fit.
Fluffiliscious
I've never even been to the site so I couldn't tell you whether I would use them or not...
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by X Earth X
I'm laughing at people who think wiki builds are good. Like you.
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http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/E_Shock_Axe
he is totally right. people who refuse to wiki are just conceited.
Croco Clouds
Farming/AB yes. Other no.
jaeharys targaryen
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Category...ing_PvP_builds
a quick once-over:
maybe at most 5 bad builds.
otherwise? meta, powerful, excellent, used by everyone, builds.
a quick once-over:
maybe at most 5 bad builds.
otherwise? meta, powerful, excellent, used by everyone, builds.
Curse You
I use it mostly for heroes, since I don't really care to make a build, then test it on a hero (since you can never be sure how well they'll use a build).
Occasionally I'll play around with a build I find, and sometimes I prefer it to what I've been running. Although, usually I end up altering it to my preference.
That's why there are articles for team builds on PvXWiki. They're evaluated as a whole, not for each build it it.
Occasionally I'll play around with a build I find, and sometimes I prefer it to what I've been running. Although, usually I end up altering it to my preference.
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Originally Posted by Grinch123456
Taking 8 PvXwiki builds (or random builds from any source, really) and putting them together will result in failure each and every time. PvXwiki is only good as a starting point for a possible team build. Ultimately, it's important to think of a team build as 64 skills and not 8 people with 8 skills.
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Full Metal X
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Originally Posted by jaeharys targaryen
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Category...ing_PvP_builds
a quick once-over: maybe at most 5 bad builds. otherwise? meta, powerful, excellent, used by everyone, builds. |
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by Full Metal X
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build_ta...hot#Bad_Rating cwut i didthar? anyways any good build that is psoted is jsut copy paste from a gvg, and then people still try to rate em bad.
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Full Metal X
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Originally Posted by jaeharys targaryen
i laugh at those people too, but what did that do to my argument?
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snikerz
i do, information is power
how do u think we advance as a species if we dont pass on knowledge?
how do u think we advance as a species if we dont pass on knowledge?
Tyla
we lie!
the world is too full of lies so we bypass with false information
im EVIL!
the world is too full of lies so we bypass with false information
im EVIL!
akurun
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Originally Posted by Full Metal X
Point is as long as people like that are allowed on the wiki it will fail, and thas the whole point of a wiki so its auto fail. The idiots out there far out number the admins. Anyways if your good and keep up witth the meta you don't even need PvX because you will know whats good and whats bad.
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Bobby2
For farming: yesh.
For PvP: I did try the 'Great' builds when I was starting out and still getting to grips with the game, but over time I've come to prefer my own. More power to me this way too.
For PvP: I did try the 'Great' builds when I was starting out and still getting to grips with the game, but over time I've come to prefer my own. More power to me this way too.
Malice Black
GW is full of egotistical cockfaces, so of course no one use PvX..tut
Zahr Dalsk
There are some builds that are so good that it would be retarded to use something inferior just to avoid using wiki. The Assacaster was one, back before DP had an energy increase (indeed, it still is very powerful, just not as good as it was). The Burning Arrow Ranger is another. The 55hp monk. The 330hp ritualist. The Heir to the Master. Also, the standard monk builds; RC, ZB, HB, SoD, WoH. Why NOT use them?
Lady S Shiva
making ur own builds is fun, remember created 600 monk build with my european uw budy when spirit bond first came out.
Destro Maniak
HAHA LETE ME CREATE A LITTLE, just a LITTLE CONTRAST HERE HEHE
I PVX wiki FTW:P
I mean why would I lose time. I get a monk build for ogden(cause it starts at lvl 20 and I dont need any other time leveling him) I get some ele build for zhed and vekk. I get to use my build as assassin cause there arent many assassin pve builds. My temple striker is cool in pve anyway. Dazing bosses are allways the best choice.
PVX WIKI FTW
NOTE: I can be considered as a lazy player. ım lazy at everything I paid lots of gold to compleate books:P
I PVX wiki FTW:P
I mean why would I lose time. I get a monk build for ogden(cause it starts at lvl 20 and I dont need any other time leveling him) I get some ele build for zhed and vekk. I get to use my build as assassin cause there arent many assassin pve builds. My temple striker is cool in pve anyway. Dazing bosses are allways the best choice.
PVX WIKI FTW
NOTE: I can be considered as a lazy player. ım lazy at everything I paid lots of gold to compleate books:P
TheLordOfBlah
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Myeh, I don't.
I have a hell of a lot more fun thinking up, playing around with and optimizing my own builds. Besides, I can't trust PvX till crap like the Vigorous Paladin and WoH Healer get nuked. |
I use wiki builds.
I dont think anyone who uses the builds are noobs, because the real deciding factor for skill level is if you can play the bar worth a damn.
As for bitching about bad builds on there, MOST people can easily distinguish a bad bar from a good one.
Ashe.
Every build eventually ends up on wiki, it doesn't really matter whether you use one from there or create your own.
Tab
PvX is bad. I don't see how anyone can argue against that. Every build is either total shit thats worse than what a monkey could come up with or copied off obs. Not to mention alot of the obs ones aren't accurate.
akurun
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Originally Posted by TheLordOfBlah
prty shure everyone runs WoH in GVG..
I use wiki builds. I dont think anyone who uses the builds are noobs, because the real deciding factor for skill level is if you can play the bar worth a damn. As for bitching about bad builds on there, MOST people can easily distinguish a bad bar from a good one. |
Also, don't complain about the PvE sections(including AB, RA, and CM), because no one cares much about them, due to the whole not-needing-a-skillbar-or-attributes-to-beat-pve thing.
Chicken Ftw
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Originally Posted by TheLordOfBlah
prty shure everyone runs WoH in GVG..
I use wiki builds. I dont think anyone who uses the builds are noobs, because the real deciding factor for skill level is if you can play the bar worth a damn. As for bitching about bad builds on there, MOST people can easily distinguish a bad bar from a good one. |
Anyway, "prty shure" the majority of GW's playerbase don't know bad bars from good ones, hence why most PuGs suck.
As far as the quality of the builds there goes, Tab covered that nicely.
akurun
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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
PvX is bad. I don't see how anyone can argue against that. Every build is either total shit thats worse than what a monkey could come up with or copied off obs. Not to mention alot of the obs ones aren't accurate.
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lemming
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Category...ing_GvG_builds
Some stuff from there needs to gtfo too, but for the most part, that category is pretty worthwhile.
Some stuff from there needs to gtfo too, but for the most part, that category is pretty worthwhile.
Fril Estelin
I was pretty surprised yesterday trying out the "great" and "good" Elementalist PvP builds for RA that none of them were really efficient. I guess I met a few times interrupters and great monks, but it was more than 50+ fails for a few wins. And when I switched to a custom-made water build, suddenly things started to be a lot better.
I guess there's a lot of good things in it, but is it possible that the rapid evolution of PvP builds limits how applicable the ones on PvX are?
I guess there's a lot of good things in it, but is it possible that the rapid evolution of PvP builds limits how applicable the ones on PvX are?
Toph Nigh
Yes, i'm currently using a PvX wiki Buidld, just for my soloing 55 ss necro though. Quite helpful, I'll mix it up here and there though
Floski
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I was pretty surprised yesterday trying out the "great" and "good" Elementalist PvP builds for RA that none of them were really efficient. I guess I met a few times interrupters and great monks, but it was more than 50+ fails for a few wins. And when I switched to a custom-made water build, suddenly things started to be a lot better. I guess there's a lot of good things in it, but is it possible that the rapid evolution of PvP builds limits how applicable the ones on PvX are? |
I've looked over the PvX builds. Many of them are fine and up to date. There's nothing wrong with copying builds. In fact, I'd say the attitude many in this thread have that being unique > being efficient is going to prevent them from ever being good at higher level PvP.
Sure, if you came up with a build that became the new meta, that would be pretty amazing. Chances are you're not going to though. There are hundreds of thousands of people playing this game, they try tons of combinations. The ones that survive on PvX are the ones that have shown they are more efficient than others. Not every skill combination is as good as the next, certain combos have more synergy, this is a fact. Get used to it.
Sir Seifus Halbred
How are you guys downloading PvX builds atm? It hasn't been working for the last week now, almost 2 weeks i believe.