Ursanway ... vanquish PUG annoyance?
cebalrai
Ursan Blessing = short bus easy mode.
Vazze
Ursan is overpowered even without consumables, actually many of the new pve only skills are, but since UB is a whole skill bar alone, its imbalance is more serious. I am very happy that PUGs are recovering from the punch that nightfall heroes landed, but gw is kicking itself in the balls: why have thousands of skills when ppl use only one....?
Mineria
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If you can find 8 people to clear UW in half and hour all non UB and all Pugs than kudos to you.
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Do I need to clear UW in half an hour?
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Because trust me, something is much more fun and rewarding if you have to put more effort into it.
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But that doesn't justify me to say others shouldn't be allowed to, does it?
If others like it, let them have it, cause they won't bother me with it.
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actually many of the new pve only skills are
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It was announced by Anet already before EotN was released, you would go beyond level 20.
But they are still balanced into the rest.
UB is more like having:
A scraped version of "Endure Pain".
A scraped version of "I'm Unstoppable" but you can still be knocked down.
There is no energy cost, but the build is based upon that you got energy degeneration and hit/getting hit maintains the energy.
Which means if you run out of energy the build is gone and you will have to wait 30 seconds before you can use it again.
To the 4 skills in it.
You got 2 attack skills which both uses 1 second cast time
- One that hits a target 2 times. 3 seconds cooldown
- Another that hits all adjacent foes and knocks them down for 2 seconds. 10 seconds cooldown
Then you got an instant skill that gives weakness to all foes within earshot and all alys deal +xx dmg. 15 seconds cooldown
And a regular run speed skill. 12 seconds cooldown.
So please tell me how is UB better then other builds, specially for a pug group which won't even be able to synchronize "Ursan Rage" and "Ursan Roar".
Unless there is a bug with skill effects stacking by the use of multiple UB players, I can't see how much more overpowered it is compared to my and others regular skill bars.
Crom The Pale
Its never really been about the skill being over powered, its about the sense of PRIDE those players that don't use consumables and PvE only skills feel.
They think PvE skills hampers thier accomplishments in some way. Taking away from there sense of pride and for that reason they complain about those that use the skills.
There will always be a group of players that wish for a zone that is so hard only they can beat it, and another group that want every zone beatable with little effort. Anet is trying to keep both happy, but unless they add an easy mode and an Extreme mode both sides will continue to complain.
They think PvE skills hampers thier accomplishments in some way. Taking away from there sense of pride and for that reason they complain about those that use the skills.
There will always be a group of players that wish for a zone that is so hard only they can beat it, and another group that want every zone beatable with little effort. Anet is trying to keep both happy, but unless they add an easy mode and an Extreme mode both sides will continue to complain.
Bastian
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Really? I don't have any tormented weapons or such and would like to see a nerf... I don't want to see every harder area in the game become just an ursanway fest. Just because its PvE rather than PvP doesn't mean it shouldn't have challenging areas in it.
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The areas are still challenging, just choose what level of challenge you want.
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Therefore, any actual profession skill that is more effective than PvE only skills needs looking at. Otherwise it makes the whole concept of PvE only skills obsolete.
Torabo
Jesus at all the people complaining about UB
I love UB. You know why? Its the *only* reason I can finally get into Groups for certain areas. I like playing on my assassin character. I don't like monking. Sure I can get into almost any group as a monk, but I hate playing that class. So my primary toon is my 'sin. Which means that before UB came along 99.9% of the times I get a "OMFG a sin LoL get out you n00b l0l0l" when trying to join groups. Hell, even starting a PUG is hard as a 'sin depending on where you want to go.
No one is forcing you to use UB, don't like it, don't use it.
Oh no at those who say its making your titles look less awesome, well, just hang out with your guilds that doesn't UB then. Since most of you seem to dislike PUGs so much anyway, why should you care what random people think of your titles. If you want to show off your *l337 skillz* you could always show it off to people you know.
I love UB. You know why? Its the *only* reason I can finally get into Groups for certain areas. I like playing on my assassin character. I don't like monking. Sure I can get into almost any group as a monk, but I hate playing that class. So my primary toon is my 'sin. Which means that before UB came along 99.9% of the times I get a "OMFG a sin LoL get out you n00b l0l0l" when trying to join groups. Hell, even starting a PUG is hard as a 'sin depending on where you want to go.
No one is forcing you to use UB, don't like it, don't use it.
Oh no at those who say its making your titles look less awesome, well, just hang out with your guilds that doesn't UB then. Since most of you seem to dislike PUGs so much anyway, why should you care what random people think of your titles. If you want to show off your *l337 skillz* you could always show it off to people you know.
Malice Black
<Grabs teh popcornz>
Gogogo Ursan bashing!!!111one
Gogogo Ursan bashing!!!111one
Numa Pompilius
Stoneys Rock
Please ursan blessing doesn't need a nerf I can see it now:
*All misson outposts, elite areas, dungeons and explorable areas now contain 50 mesmers with energy surge and other energy loss skills all spread out and unpullable.
*All misson outposts, elite areas, dungeons and explorable areas now contain 50 mesmers with energy surge and other energy loss skills all spread out and unpullable.
Proff
You have to remember then GW is just a game and to many "Ursan Way" is the only means for some players to do the elite areas. Sure you can say that they should spend some time and learn about the game but most people just don't have the time and this makes it very convenient to form groups for just about anything. Before the were a couple minimal skill bars that a player had to have now it's just 1 skill, you may say it takes less skill to use but I disagree, it's absolutely the same as finding out what build is most used for the class you're using and buying the skills for it. No one knows whether you've ever even used the skill bar you have but as long as you have the skills needed no one cares.
Plus it lets the classes that were ignore previously a chance at joining pugs without getting kicked because the rest of the group doesn't want a sin or a mesmer to come with them.
Plus it lets the classes that were ignore previously a chance at joining pugs without getting kicked because the rest of the group doesn't want a sin or a mesmer to come with them.
Lagg
Who still gives a go red engine go?
PvE was imbalanced even before Ursan. PvP is a cesspool of elitism and pettiness.
The game is not dead. It's worse than dead. It's an animated corpse, only a shadow of its former greatness.
Even ArenaNet realises this, even though they'll never admit it.
All hope lies with Guild Wars 2, both for the community as for the developer.
PvE was imbalanced even before Ursan. PvP is a cesspool of elitism and pettiness.
The game is not dead. It's worse than dead. It's an animated corpse, only a shadow of its former greatness.
Even ArenaNet realises this, even though they'll never admit it.
All hope lies with Guild Wars 2, both for the community as for the developer.
romeus petrus
All PvE skills are overpowered, thats kinda the point. If u dont like it, simple solution: DO NOT USE IT.
Once again Ursan is doing exactly what it's supposed to be doing. Anet made that very clear many times over. Ursan is simply here to stay, learn to live with it.
Once again Ursan is doing exactly what it's supposed to be doing. Anet made that very clear many times over. Ursan is simply here to stay, learn to live with it.
Solas
Ursan is the single best reason to pug.
i've onyl really used a full team in doa,
can anyone honestly say that normal doa (tank and nuke) requires any skill? its a happy alternative.
i've onyl really used a full team in doa,
can anyone honestly say that normal doa (tank and nuke) requires any skill? its a happy alternative.
MithranArkanere
Ursan is not the panacea, just help in some places, but won't work everywhere.
snoozer80
I don't get it why ppl hate ursan way.. It's only pve build so whats up?? Only killing monsters could post here its unfair to be beaten by ursna way. Thank You anet for giving ursan way
KingKryton
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I can only agree..all you need to do x is..go with a full ursan + monks team.
No need to think about your build, and bring the skills that will fit whatever you'll be doing the best.(which is to me what GW is all about) No need to worry about most of the shutdown. No need to think about your party setup. No need to..well.. think.. for the most part:| |
leave ursan blessing as it is. without it people just use the same builds. I am a war and with ursan ive only just been able to complete the UW 100% for the first time. Without it id have to use a obsidian tank build which i dont have all campaigns for.
wraithe
another whine and cheese thread about Ursan Blessing..how about you add your complaints to another Ursan bashing thread..or complain to Anet direct.
bring on the cats...
bring on the cats...
zwei2stein
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Yeah its lame, titles will never have the same credibility:
Person 1: Wow Legendary Vanquisher Nice Person 2: Thanks Person 1: Did you UB it? Person 2: No I used my own team set ups. Person 1: YEAH RIGHT.......... |
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I can only agree..all you need to do x is..go with a full ursan + monks team.
No need to think about your build, and bring the skills that will fit whatever you'll be doing the best.(which is to me what GW is all about) No need to worry about most of the shutdown. No need to think about your party setup. No need to..well.. think.. for the most part:| IMO, a skill like this should simply not exist.. |
Evil Genius
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Jesus at all the people complaining about UB
I love UB. You know why? Its the *only* reason I can finally get into Groups for certain areas. I like playing on my assassin character. I don't like monking. Sure I can get into almost any group as a monk, but I hate playing that class. So my primary toon is my 'sin. Which means that before UB came along 99.9% of the times I get a "OMFG a sin LoL get out you n00b l0l0l" when trying to join groups. Hell, even starting a PUG is hard as a 'sin depending on where you want to go. No one is forcing you to use UB, don't like it, don't use it. |
I have pugged in Ursanway groups a bit. My main (the only char I play) is a monk, so luckily it isn't butting mashing for me. I understand its still easier though, which is why the PUG wants to run Ursan.
Personally I enjoy the satisfaction of vanquishing with H/H. It doesn't feel like "cheating" to me - the henchies are almost like a handicap and don't run Ursan. I understand others don't like/don't have the skill to play this way - after all it is a online game.
Mr None
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I am a war and with ursan ive only just been able to complete the UW 100% for the first time. Without it id have to use a obsidian tank build which i dont have all campaigns for.
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I am a warrior and me, my friend and 6 heroes completed UW without Ursan or Obsidian crap
MirkoTeran
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without it people just use the same builds
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Navaros
Thread Necromancy FTL.
This thread is very obsolete, Ursan has already got nerfed since the creation of this thread. Not that it needed to be.
This thread is very obsolete, Ursan has already got nerfed since the creation of this thread. Not that it needed to be.
zwei2stein
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Thread Necromancy FTL.
This thread is very obsolete, Ursan has already got nerfed since the creation of this thread. Not that it needed to be. |
Thread is more valid now since we actually saw what ursan did to game ... and it is not pretty.
Tyla
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without it people just use the same builds.
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UB'ers = people using the same builds.
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
All PvE skills are overpowered, thats kinda the point.
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Lightbringer Signet? Sucks.
Radiation Field? Sucks.
Technobabble? Sucks.
Don't Trip? Sucks.
Alkar's Alchemical Aid? Sucks.
Black Power Mine? [skill]Dust TrAp[/skill]
Dwarven Stability? Limited use by far.
Ear Bite? [skill]sever artery[/skill]
Closer observation shows otherwise.
Numa Pompilius
First of all for me the big problem with Ursan is how boring it is. As it requires no brain activity at all to play (beyond "target nearest, don't aggro the next mob until this one is dead, and don't rush away from the monks"), it is the most boring build I've ever played. I started my vanquishing with Ursan, but after a while I just couldn't take it, and equipped Eviscerate instead. It's no where near as powerful as Ursan, but it doesn't rot my brain either.
Ursan = pachinko.
Secondly, I think we're just going to see more and more of these fixed skillbars. We're already seeing them pop up everywhere (from Ursan via Beetle racing to the BMP missions), and I strongly suspect there will be nothing BUT fixed skillbars in GW2.
Then ANet will finally have made guildwars a Magic: The Gathering clone, with every player a single MTG card. And I'll be playing Counterstrike.
Ursan = pachinko.
Secondly, I think we're just going to see more and more of these fixed skillbars. We're already seeing them pop up everywhere (from Ursan via Beetle racing to the BMP missions), and I strongly suspect there will be nothing BUT fixed skillbars in GW2.
Then ANet will finally have made guildwars a Magic: The Gathering clone, with every player a single MTG card. And I'll be playing Counterstrike.
Brian Fellow
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Lolwut?
UB'ers = people using the same builds. Then you have obviously NOT looked at other PvE skills except SY, TNTF and UB. Lightbringer Signet? Sucks. Radiation Field? Sucks. Technobabble? Sucks. Don't Trip? Sucks. Alkar's Alchemical Aid? Sucks. Black Power Mine? .... Closer observation shows otherwise. |
Alkar's acid is very effective against Destroyers with the cracked armor and extra dmg.
I would say these are also overpowered:
You move like a dwarf
pain inverter
summon ebon vanguard assassin
finish him
great dwarf weapon
Red-Tide
waa waaa, if you dont like it, don't use it. Stop whining.
For those saying it takes no skill, well then skip the skill and use your skills. Why waste your time QQing here? Play the damn game the way you like and let others do the same.
For those saying it takes no skill, well then skip the skill and use your skills. Why waste your time QQing here? Play the damn game the way you like and let others do the same.
romeus petrus
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Lolwut?
UB'ers = people using the same builds. Then you have obviously NOT looked at other PvE skills except SY, TNTF and UB. Lightbringer Signet? Sucks. Radiation Field? Sucks. Technobabble? Sucks. Don't Trip? Sucks. Alkar's Alchemical Aid? Sucks. Black Power Mine? [skill]Dust TrAp[/skill] Dwarven Stability? Limited use by far. Ear Bite? [skill]sever artery[/skill] Closer observation shows otherwise. |
I suggest u look further into other PvE skills and the correct way of using them. Ursan is overpowered/not balanced very true. That's exactly what it's meant to be. We as a GW community need to move beyond complaining about how "overpowered" UB is and learn to live with it.
Isileth
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waa waaa, if you dont like it, don't use it. Stop whining.
For those saying it takes no skill, well then skip the skill and use your skills. Why waste your time QQing here? Play the damn game the way you like and let others do the same. |
Because you wouldnt have to use it. The fact that its overpowered doesnt matter right? Because you wouldnt use it so it wouldnt effect you or the game in anyway right?
Or just maybe....it would.
Balance in games is important. You cant just say, well dont use it if you think its to powerful. Dont think that it doesnt effect others.
zwei2stein
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... The main idea of having PvE only skills is because they are not balanced. ...
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Main idea of PvE only skills was that people would stop QQ at forums about skill ballances and PvE and free Izzy from having to think about side effects of PvP ballances. It failed as this and tons of related threads show.
One of GWs strengths was that PvE got reballanced thanks to sideeffects of PvP ballacning and "best builds" changed after could of weeks. Compared to todays "never".
romeus petrus
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Problem is that that idea sucks. PvE has to be ballanced, it might not need carefull PvP-worthy ballancing but it still cant have such ridiculous stuff running around.
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Then the issue becomes would u also balance monsters and AI. You do come across monsters 10 levels higher than u, and go into areas where the spawns rediculously outnumber you. Balancing that even if not pvp style balancing would make the game rediculous.
Another example is Thorn Wolves in Urgoz HM which strike for 300+ dmg per hit. An R10 Norn Ursan cannot outdamage that..
PvE cannot be "balanced" simply coz the AI will never behave like humans do, thats why we need much higher mob levels and number to make the game challenging. Thus, balance is lost.
Isileth
Romeus, the AI needs those extra levels and numbers because they are AI.
Or are you suggesting it would be fun to face a team at the same level as you but with AI controlling?
They quite obviousely cant perform to the same standard as a real player. They need advantages simply because the player will always be more skillful.
So the balance comes not in Player team v AI team.
But in the requirement of skill to beat the AI team.
Now when you have overpowered skills it kills that balance, suddenly it becomes far to easy.
Or are you suggesting it would be fun to face a team at the same level as you but with AI controlling?
They quite obviousely cant perform to the same standard as a real player. They need advantages simply because the player will always be more skillful.
So the balance comes not in Player team v AI team.
But in the requirement of skill to beat the AI team.
Now when you have overpowered skills it kills that balance, suddenly it becomes far to easy.
Horseman Of War
Id like to know, aside from DoA Gemstone prices, how this is unbalancing anything?
It shouldnt be a pride issue for people.... especially since most of these people will just go out and farm with a youtube build, and how is that any different? At least for Ursan, you need (noobs listen) to level up your ursan. Its not just a free ride once you buy gw:en... it takes HOURS and HOURS to level up your ursan. So yes if you want 'skill over time played', then skip grinding varajar and go 55 your heart out boy.
There are always going to be things in this game that allow you to do things easily. At least ursan gets people Together and actually Accomplishing things they want to do, rather than playing the whole game h/h or solo farming.
If you dont like Ursan, theres nothing forcing you to use it.
Also why do people call it ;'ursanway' .... the skill is called Ursan Blessing, not Ursan-Will-Avenge-You...
It shouldnt be a pride issue for people.... especially since most of these people will just go out and farm with a youtube build, and how is that any different? At least for Ursan, you need (noobs listen) to level up your ursan. Its not just a free ride once you buy gw:en... it takes HOURS and HOURS to level up your ursan. So yes if you want 'skill over time played', then skip grinding varajar and go 55 your heart out boy.
There are always going to be things in this game that allow you to do things easily. At least ursan gets people Together and actually Accomplishing things they want to do, rather than playing the whole game h/h or solo farming.
If you dont like Ursan, theres nothing forcing you to use it.
Also why do people call it ;'ursanway' .... the skill is called Ursan Blessing, not Ursan-Will-Avenge-You...
Isileth
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Id like to know, aside from DoA Gemstone prices, how this is unbalancing anything?
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Be it getting a group.
Prices.
You also need to look at the same reasons people dont want bots, gold sellers, cheaters etc.
How does duping effect you? You dont need to do it, you dont need the money so its all fine right?
How about someone who runs a bot? It doesnt effect you again right? You dont have to do it, if it gives him an advantage it doesnt matter.
Quite obviousely these things do effect others. So does having unbalanced gameplay. It cant be argued away with "Well you dont have to use it". Because it has an effect if they use it or not.
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It shouldnt be a pride issue for people.... especially since most of these people will just go out and farm with a youtube build, and how is that any different? At least for Ursan, you need (noobs listen) to level up your ursan. Its not just a free ride once you buy gw:en... it takes HOURS and HOURS to level up your ursan. So yes if you want 'skill over time played', then skip grinding varajar and go 55 your heart out boy.
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It takes skill>time and kicks it a bunch of times till you get time>skill gameplay.
Now not only are you rewarding time spent with more options, but you are rewarding it with more power.
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There are always going to be things in this game that allow you to do things easily. At least ursan gets people Together and actually Accomplishing things they want to do, rather than playing the whole game h/h or solo farming.
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If you dont like Ursan, theres nothing forcing you to use it.
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Also why do people call it ;'ursanway' .... the skill is called Ursan Blessing, not Ursan-Will-Avenge-You...
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KingKryton
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Then may be you should learn to play?
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um it has nothing to do with me learning to play. When i goto join a group in places like doa theyll ask "ping build" if its anything but obsidian tank then its a instant kick.
i suppose you can do doa HM with H/H too
also if you dont use ursan then wtf is the problem? its not hurting you in anyway?
im guessing your just another elitist who has hundred of ectos stored away and knows that with more people farming elite areas your precious supply will become worthless.
romeus petrus
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Romeus, the AI needs those extra levels and numbers because they are AI.
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Face it there is no balance in PvE, there never was, and there never will be.
"...there is no spoon".
Eon Ryax
Just my two cents - I'm not personally against UB, but I don't use it. Call me a purist, whatever - I've had the same char for two years, and I love making new builds. Anywho, tangent aside, the only times UB has really irritated me has been in ToA, with people shouting for "r12 only ursanway", and today in Central Transfer Chamber, where someone was advertising for a two-man Glint's run, ursan only, and then had the gall to call it "proway". I'm sorry, but the word pro connotates professional to me, someone who is skilled, has a wealth of experience, and some intelligence. Not a button-masher who happens to be able to deal assloads of damage because of one skill.
That said, I may just be uppity because my toon is a ranger, and it took a hell of a lot of work (even with h/h) to get to even halfway where most of the other classes are.
Then again, maybe I'm doing it wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
That said, I may just be uppity because my toon is a ranger, and it took a hell of a lot of work (even with h/h) to get to even halfway where most of the other classes are.
Then again, maybe I'm doing it wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
DivineEnvoy
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It effects lots of things.
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Prices.
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You also need to look at the same reasons people dont want bots, gold sellers, cheaters etc.
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How does duping effect you? You dont need to do it, you dont need the money so its all fine right?
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How about someone who runs a bot? It doesnt effect you again right? You dont have to do it, if it gives him an advantage it doesnt matter.
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Quite obviousely these things do effect others. So does having unbalanced gameplay. It cant be argued away with "Well you dont have to use it". Because it has an effect if they use it or not.
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That makes it even worse tbh. Not only is it overpowered, but its power is linked to grind!
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Perhaps we shouldn't even let human players party together; like you said, the game is supposed to skill over time, so if a player decides to make a friend or so, and maybe he would ask this friend to help out on a mission or two, that would be rewards granted over the time spent into socializing with people, which will allow this inexperienced player to have power over these missions.
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It isnt that simple, in a single player game that argument works (Although its still better to have it balanced, the player shouldnt have to make the game balanced). But GW isnt a single player game, other people do have an effect.
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kazjun
I don't care about whether ursan is in or not. My main's a warrior and dslash combined with other skills, especially if you use certain other pve skills, makes ursan look like a hamstorm. And you have full use of 8 skill slots.
But I must also say that saying ursan negatively affects getting a group is wrong. I'd bet that more people have been able to pug since the introduction of ursan than they were before. Whole classes would have been able to pug where they wouldn't have even been able to get a look in than before. ESPECIALLY the elite areas where classes like mesmers are unlikely to ever go unless it's a guild group or solo. At least that's what I've heard from guildies. My five main pve chars are W, R, N, and ele's so I haven't really run into any discrimination. But I don't really pug much, prefering to either go with guildies or H/H.
Also about it been brain numbing and easy. I agree, but a lot of the asked for cookie cutter builds are also brain numbing and easy. I don't think anyone can say SF is overly complex. Or that B/P really involves more than mashing barrage and keeping splinter and spirits up and hitting an interrupt or two. And frankly pugging, and especially in the elite areas, is cookie cutter or you get insta kicked. You try doing the deep for example, if you don't fit say 134134134222, you'll be out quicker than you can type hi.
As for it affecting prices, apart from DOA gems I can't really see how this would affect prices more than the other million farming builds around. I gotta agree with DivineEnvoy on this, there's already too many efficient farming builds around to blame ursan for this.
But I must also say that saying ursan negatively affects getting a group is wrong. I'd bet that more people have been able to pug since the introduction of ursan than they were before. Whole classes would have been able to pug where they wouldn't have even been able to get a look in than before. ESPECIALLY the elite areas where classes like mesmers are unlikely to ever go unless it's a guild group or solo. At least that's what I've heard from guildies. My five main pve chars are W, R, N, and ele's so I haven't really run into any discrimination. But I don't really pug much, prefering to either go with guildies or H/H.
Also about it been brain numbing and easy. I agree, but a lot of the asked for cookie cutter builds are also brain numbing and easy. I don't think anyone can say SF is overly complex. Or that B/P really involves more than mashing barrage and keeping splinter and spirits up and hitting an interrupt or two. And frankly pugging, and especially in the elite areas, is cookie cutter or you get insta kicked. You try doing the deep for example, if you don't fit say 134134134222, you'll be out quicker than you can type hi.
As for it affecting prices, apart from DOA gems I can't really see how this would affect prices more than the other million farming builds around. I gotta agree with DivineEnvoy on this, there's already too many efficient farming builds around to blame ursan for this.
Bryant Again
DivineEnvoy, you've taken everything he's said out of context and missed his point. Example: He's comparing bots/gold sellers to Ursan Blessing because neither bots or gold sellers impact your gameplay.
I doubt the problem of getting into a group has never existed until the release of Ursan Blessing.
Again, that is not his point. He's just providing yet another example at how Ursan Blessing affects peoples' gameplay.
I could comment on more, but I'd essentially be repeating what Isileth posted. Please reread his post.
I doubt the problem of getting into a group has never existed until the release of Ursan Blessing.
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Originally Posted by DivineEnvoy
I doubt the problem of getting into a group has never existed until the release of Ursan Blessing.
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I could comment on more, but I'd essentially be repeating what Isileth posted. Please reread his post.