Ursan....Thoughts?

Seriously?
Not a crime
By your definition not a crime either.
Not a crime.
Yeah, thoughtcrime.

For person which likes to be in highhorse and links people who want to play the same game that they bought two year ago to racists, you are pretty sad yourself.

Not only you are closeminded (Herecy, crime? Are you american or what?), you intend telling people what is right and wrong too (drug usage does not hurt anyone, related social effects do, hech out how much hard and soft drugs people around you use ... Tobaco and Alcohol is drug too btw; Sucide is crime only in Bible, not only its pointless to consider it crime /unless you want to deny people burial/, who are you to tell anyone to breath or not. ) You go as far as categorizing mere thoughts at crime, bravo.

I am stunned on what 21st century person can consider crime.

It's amusing to me how it's "arrogant" to want challenge in the game, but it's not arrogant to demand the ability (via overpowered skills) to experience all of the content, even when you lack the necessary skill to succeed in some of it (HM, elite areas).

So much for working on playstyle, builds, etc and getting better at the game. Why bother when you can just turn into a bear?

In before accusations of "elitism".

I used ursan one time to vanquish , but i still died so i dont use it.

UB is utter shite...it brings nothing of any worth to the game at all...period.

Because were are doing "being arogant" thing wrong: http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Arrogant

Because you both bought the game?
And the shitty player has the same right to experience the game as the good one. The only difference is that the good players are now demanding that the shitty ones shouldn't be able to experience the game. Or better yet - the shitty players have the right to experience the game AFTER they reach the level of experience that was defined BY the GOOD PLAYERS rather then the creators of the game!
I fail to see what gives the good players this right. Did I miss something in the EULA?

I'm an SW-pirating atheist who is currently thinking of killing a few posters in this thread. Arrest me now?

Seriously, take the red pill and welcome to the real world.

Actually, the elite areas and HM being made as hard as they are demand a certain level of skill. Well, used to. So yes, the creators did essentially say "you need x experience to succeed here". Then came the QQ from the lazy, and voila, PvE skills.

From the EULA:
(c) NC Interactive has the right at any time for any reason or no reason to change and/or eliminate any aspect(s) of the Service as it sees fit in its sole discretion.

And that was wrong ... because?

- So now you changed your "nerf ursan" into "would like to play same game as 2 years ago". Well isn't that quite a trip?

- It's kind of hard to discuss with people who seem to have no reading comprehension at all. How would you sum up my last post? What was the point in that? Do you think that I'm debating whether heresy is a crime or not? Do you not understand that heretics are people who are immoral according to religious people and it's a fitting example of immoral action which doesn't require involvement with other people?

I'm sorry dude, but arguments are not falsified by misunderstanding, ignoring or belittling your opponents. What kind of messed up schools you've been going?

- Indeed. Let people play games like they want without hurting other peoples' same right.

UH .. it IS arrogant.

Your hand is not forced into using Ursan. YOU and those spamming that Illusion of Leetness signet do not have the right to dictate to the masses how their instance should be played. Assuming (which all of you are) that those using it are "bad" or "noobs" without even knowing the players skill level is the epitome of arrogance.

Sorry uber players .. some of us have 32 months and 9k hours played .. what the hell should we be learning about the game at this stage? I mastered FoW in May of 05 .. should I do it in a way that takes longer to earn your approval? Dream on it won't be happening.

This is guildwars .. probably the worst online community. Trying to imply that you care about Timmy the noob getting better is about as believeable as the concept of the Tooth Fairy. The honest wah is that those spamming that Illusion of Leetness signet are trying to protect a farm or NEED to feel superior to others. The fact Anet has not acted upon the 10 nerf ursan threads leans towards they are bright enough to see that.

You have your instance .. stay out of ours.

Personally, have made a conscious decision not to use it; I team with others who don't use it, no one on my friends list uses it, I'm in a guild that laughs at it. It is NEVER necessary.

However, everyone else should do whatever they want with their skills. I'm still finding teams to play in, and still vanquishing pretty easily without it, so it has zero impact on me. Do what you like. I just won't play with you

Well...i acutlly like the skill. I use it in almost all missions and quests and i breeze through them

Whats the point of playing then?

Silly Malice, nobody plays to enjoy a challenge anymore. GW's rewarding skill premise is out the window, it's all about bears and easy mode now.

Ursan is handy but it's not what we need; we need a skill balancer who considers PvE before PvP; there would then be no need for Ursan and the like.

"Commit" heresy? Care to clarify your arrogant little religion-supporting statement?

i use it for HM dungeons and vanquishing difficult areas. yes it's boring as hell and takes no skill and can be done whilst thoroughly engaged in a movie on tv, it gets sh*t done. *shrug*

wow dude, exaggerate much? chicken little ftw.

- Why not? I tried to create a thread saying people could create themselves challenge by not using Heroes that make gaming trivial and instead having fun playing with other people. I was immediately declared fool by community saying "it's fun only if you're masochist" and people went "GFT" for that. So what does some Ursan Blessing have to do with that?

I'm having difficulties finding any consistency in this community.

- According to Cambridge Online Dictionary saying "commit heresy" is right.

- It's kind of hard to discuss with people who seem to have no reading comprehension at all. How would you sum up my last post? What was the point in that? Do you think that I'm debating whether heresy is a crime or not? Do you not understand that heretics are people who are immoral according to religious people and it's a fitting example of immoral action which doesn't require involvement with other people?

What's the point in playing a game if the only way you can make it fun and challenging is to create your own handicaps? I don't see why a player who works to become better should have to penalize themselves because the skill they developed made the game dull for them.