[Dev Update] Exploits and Bans – 10 January 2008

The people who exploited this definitely deserve a ban. There's a difference between discovering a bug and hacking GW servers.

Mickey I don't mean to be a cynic but I don't think you'll get your account returned. You probably knew that you acccessed the Mallyx mission from DoA outpost not from the hacker one. Yet you do the mission anyway even though the existence of this outpost has only been discovered a year after DoA was released?

That's highly unlikely.

He would havo to say:
1) how many times he killed Mallyx and wasn't the whole process strange.
2) having defeated 4 other lords of anguish would surely not indicate a noob, thus, getting to Mallyx by some weird way and participating - isn't quite an accident.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Im one of the ''lucky'' 117 too. I knew there was something fishy when i joined a team saying its not deeded to have beaten the 4 lords for killing Mallyx

3 years GW gameplay gone 4 campaignes ( bought each 50 euro) down the toilet

Im trying to reach support but no respons yet, guess i have to play a new game now.

I say GOODBYE to my ign characters ''I Cant Kill U'' ( 54 million xp) , ''None Shall Pass'' (36 Million XP)

If they were sitting there farming 100's of armbraces a week (and it's somewhat confusing how they got the quest rewards and the quest to work right for test content I guess that was just luck) well they pretty much deserve the ban. I wonder if this includes some of the filthy rich people in high end ... probably, sadly.

So thats what all the fuss was about. Geez seriously, Mallyx isn't that tough if you have a good team. Yes it takes a long time but it's worth it. They deserve their ban.

Given how mature and calm you've been about it, things are probably going to look in your favor.

That's exactly what I've done the past four times, so ya.

Personally I'd like to know why some of you are trying to say you were unaware that this was an exploit. Not trying to be rude or anything, but don't you think if people are being ferried directly to mallyx from a prophecies outpost sounds a little bit fishy? I mean surely you must've not of been thinking that this was normal.


Anyways I do believe ANet did the right thing here. Exploiting a bug with a third party program resulting in a permanent ban.

I had already beaten the Four Lords, I went into Mallyx to try and beat him, from GoA, my team failed, my buddy said, let's go with my team. I get a guest invite, go to Guild Hall, taken to outpost, no Keeper to go to Mallyx, then the little, Enter Mission thing pops up at the top, with the countdown, I'm thinking, wtf, and then we jump back to the Mallyx place, in the Ebony Citadel Place or w/e, so I'm like...ok....were here, let's just do it. So I finish the quest from the outpost that is exploited apparently.

Oh, btw, I am a noob at DoA. I took 2 other guildies, and we ursanned with heros all 4 areas, with Consumables, it was hard, but we made it, and I pugged foundry, god knows how, but we did it, with Ursan.

/yes they do deserve their bans, but being able to just redo Mallyx mission for free gemsets? You don't see any problem in that? Even though the Mallyx quest is required to enter the Citadel?

Im one of those 117 as well. I've never done DoA at all before my friends told me they were farming Mallyx. I was told to just complete the DoA quest before i was allowed to farm with them. Just the 4 quests and Mallyx once. Ive never used the map hacks or any third party programs including the third party ones supported by Anet ie. Texmod. I farmed this like how I did the deep way back when someone kept the outpost did the deep sold our stuff and came back to GH. I never found anything wrong with it the deep or urgoz warren they like this outpost never had a map marker. I never knew how anyone i went with got there but all of the partys i had gone on went from the GH any non allies got guest invites. As far as I know I'n no hacker I've never hack anything in my life. I seriously dont believe that this was a hack. I know alot of people who have been banned no raw numbers but a garunteed 1/4 -> 1/3 of the banned accounts we all are close friends after all. Ive accepted that my account for the most part is probably gone or im gonna have to go through hell to get it back but I know that a vast majority of people are and were never hackers. They were just like me a hard core player of 2+ years wanting to make some easy money.

Friend said that he got a whisper asking if he wanted to go kill Mallyx. He said "ya I got time", met them in DoA and a-mappin'-they-go. Instantly he figured out he shouldn't be there and mapped away.

The possibility of innocent people may be slim, sure, but that doesn't mean you should take that out of the equation.

Well, he does say that he only did it once and he had beaten the other 4 lords.

If he was ferried to the outpost and left immediately, I do think it's unfair that he was banned. I'm talking about the people who went to the outpost and went on to kill mallyx.

The EULA was your warning.

You only have yourselves to blame. You shouldn't have done it, you knew it was against the rules. I have no sympathy for you at all.

I heard about hidden outposts but thought they were like the alleged admin island in WoW, most likely a myth. I guess they left them in and active to use as their own private outposts perhaps to have in game meetings and such.

QFT this post should govern the way Anet handles banning.

I never said I didn't have a problem with it, I do that is why I think they deserve their bans. It's not fair to the rest of the community for some hackers to get free gemstones, basically, to other players and have them incoporated into the economy. It is wrong. That is why they are banned and why I agree with it. They breached the EULA, they could of ruined the economy even more and it was basically dupers all over except they had to have a little more work to do.

If the person didn't map out immediately after being taken to the outpost they deserve what they got. I really don't see why any of them are pleading their case on here though, for all we know everything they are telling us is complete bullshi t. They can cry to anet through support all they like and if they truly are innocent they will have the action reversed. As for people saying they should have been given a warning before being banned permanently, why? It really should be one strike your out. You don't want your account banned? Don't do stupid shit.

they left the outpost open, they should have closed it when they were finished. it is ANets fault for even keeping it there... there will always be a person to use something that the Devs didn't get rid of... ANet should unban all of these people, or I will have lost respect for all they have done (not like I haven't already... since the game is getting boring as it is)

I feel glad that greed is punished at last and virtue reigns supreme.

So what's your point exactly? You have no case.