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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:19 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mountain

arkantos, I know many people who have still not done DoA...how would those people know this was out of the ordinary?

Even if they knew it was unusual, the situation would then be similar to the recent ferrying issues; thus, punishment should be similar. I'm not saying that these individuals deserve a ban or simply a warning...just that anet should be consistent.

Yeah, maybe they haven't done it yet but I am sure everyone by now knows its an elite mission. And if there isn't a outpost that lets you go straight to Kanaxai or one that lets you go straight to Urgoz why would there be one that lets you go straight to Mallyx?

El Presidente

Forge Runner

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:19 - 122

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexion

But it is also the Gov's fault for not posting a speed limit sign on the road you are driving on.

So...you have a speedometer that shows 140 mph, you decide to drive 140 mph...then get a ticket and say it's the car manufacturer's fault for putting in a speedometer that shows 140 mph and an engine that can allow you to do so and/or the gov't for not displaying a speed limit sign??? Bottom line is, they knew it was wrong, they chose to do it anyway (whether once or repeatedly) and now gripe about the punishment dealt and/or try to seek sympathy from others...

If you speed, you take the chance of getting caught. Same logic applies to using an exploit, hacking into the client, etc.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

11 Jan 2008 at 02:20 - 123

This is NOT a thread about the speed limit. Stop it. All off topic posts will be deleted.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

11 Jan 2008 at 02:20 - 124

Oh noez, this thread is full of completely innocent victims, who got scammed out of moneyz they spent on GW.

To quote Nelson: Ha ha.

Clait

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Braveheart World Xi [any]

W/A

11 Jan 2008 at 02:21 - 125

How many people got banned for using the free Zaishen chest "exploit?"

How many people got banned for getting a free ferry to the end of the game?

How many people got banned for getting a ferry to the deep, to urgoz or to slavers exile?

How many people got banned for /resigning in the Warrior Guild hall to be transported ANYWHERE in the game?

How many people got banned for using fort aspenwood, dragging all the necro npcs to the the base.. owning the other team?

How many people got banned for ferrying people from Kamadan to Consulate docks?

How many people have been banned in ab for dying at a gate and using necro transversal to go through it before the timer starts?

How many people have been banned for taking heros into AB and holding 64v64 matches?

How many people have been banned using the Warrior Guild hall trick to ferry people from Kamadan to LA without taking a quest?

How many people got banned for finding a bugged area while mapping and saw the "end of the world" effect?

How many people have been banned for vanquishing Bukdek Byway.. taking 2 quests.. and having to kill 1 enemy to vanquish?

How many people have used TexMod, a third party program, to obtain their cartographer title?

How many people have been banned for using Ventrilo, a third party program not supported by Anet?

When you question about how I know about all this, its simple. When you play the game for 30 months you find out about all these "exploits."

To say that ferrying to Mallyx is any different from the above is preposterous. Those guilty of any above are in the same position as this "exploit."

My question is.. where are these individual bans?

chaoticimajar

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mika Nakashima (Mika)

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:21 - 126

and when going into this a couple of us knew we may get banned but it said elite mission so its like well this wasn't glitched it must be here for a reason

Azarr#1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

IOWA

swat

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:21 - 127

I really dont believe people think that 117 people came together and hacked the game made the economy worse in the game cause ive done it with regular usan groups got probably the same or more money then this stupid exploit that Anet was so stupid to leave in the game Ive seen people spam need r10 ursan for mallyx and they map you too their guild hall and map you to the town I have a few friends that are very good at playing got mapped there did it once because they wanted it in their hall of monuments. and now their banned. They better sort this out and figure out the true people that hacked this game instead of being lazy inconsiderate and just massively ban anyone who may have been in this town. for all they know its another invisable town just like the Deep that can be saved and mapped back too at any time. that was in an update. Seriously people I bet one out of 1000 people read the forums that play all the time because I certainly dont I just play the game and have fun. And if Anet needs to ban people why not the bots because they make more money off this game and exploit it for a living. These are the people that should be banned. They better sort through the Support messages and Check them appropriatly. Because before long the people that were friends of the innocent that were banned that actually farm are going to quit and before long the game will not have a PVE side.

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:21 - 128

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexion

The way this happened was someone hacked with a third party program, it opened up an exploit w/o one and now many innocent people are banned because it was an exploit done by random party members that they didn't know. In the end... donuts are totally being stolen. Great, now i'm confused. Way to go real world comparisons.

I Agree, it's not their fault. They just knew that they were going to an outpost that 99.9% of the guildwars population didnt know about, skipped the 4 huge quests that are needed to get to mallyx, then kill the monkey in a few minutes , and then just repeat. /sarcasm

There was OBVIOUSLY something fishy going on there, they should have known to not to screw around with it.

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:21 - 129

Well... they did hacked the game, wich wasnt really smart in the first place.

But also, i dont blame them intirely for this.

In my opinion, these extreme and long areas like DoA and Urgoz, arent really fun at all. You will get sick AND tired of these places in a month or so.
What do you have to consider here:
The time you take to create a group.
The time you take to beat one quest.
The time you take to get a group for all quests.
The time you take to find someone who wants to do the same quest as you do.
The time you take to make a group to mallyx
The time you take to find THAT specific profession.

It just takes a lot of time, time you could be doing something else, having fun, getting gold, feeling compensated.
No wonder people wanted to find a shortcut, and skip all these steps mentioned early.

This might sound just a case of hacking, but if you figure out why they did it, you will find a much deeper problem.

Now the question is: if this outpost was used for testing, only some devs could know about it, so how come a player found out about it and developed a hack to acess it?

edit: after reading some...
I would surely use this exploit to get the HoM statue for my mesmer... does any player here really thinks i will EVER find a group at DoA with my mesmer? Do you think i will ever find groups for every quest? Do you think i will ever find a group for Mallyx? Seriously...
So YES... I WOULD USE THIS... but its not my fault! I didnt created a ridiculously hard area that only allows nukers, tanks and monks...
So when you ever create a end-game area that can be played by the 10 professions, we can talk again.
In the meantime, get used to the exploits and hacks, because they are a consequence!

Mickey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Eternal Insight

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:21 - 130

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antheus

Oh noez, this thread is full of completely innocent victims, who got scammed out of moneyz they spent on GW.

No one who posted that are trying to argue their innocence are completely innocence....that's why were banned....we were all involved in this in some way or another.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

11 Jan 2008 at 02:23 - 131

Quote:

To say that ferrying to Mallyx is any different from the above is preposterous. Those guilty of any above are in the same position as this "exploit."

Yeah because you hacked the client to do all the other things you listed.

Oh wait.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Jan 2008 at 02:24 - 132

Ok, lets make this clear. Anet had to do something.

So they banned all the guys who actually hacked the game.

Fair here, no one is complaning about that.

Now there were a bunch of people who didnt hacked the game but they were exploiting it anyway.

I guess anet chosed to ban everone who was actually farming and condone the people who just do it once.

I dont see anything wrong with it,

The had to make sure the thing didnt go unpunished.

imbanned2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

11 Jan 2008 at 02:25 - 133

It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.

- Voltaire

they left a breach.. all this problem could never have happened if they closed the outpost after practice/test/check ect

stefke86

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

11 Jan 2008 at 02:25 - 134

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasuke The Betrayer

Lol, this wasn't an exploit. A person clearly hacked the gw file to go to the outpost.

Thats exatly it.. A person did it, as in 1. Not the 116 others who were just taking that 'ferry' that ,just like Clait pointed out, happend quite a few times before and to a much larger extend...and is still happening!!!

Rhapsody Shadow

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:25 - 135

according the Guild Wars Rules of Conduct point 8 says

'You may not market, promote, advertise, or solicit within the Guild Wars game or on the official Guild Wars websites.'

that means nobody can sell their items weapons ect. at kamadan or any other outpost without risking a ban?

Mickey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Eternal Insight

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:25 - 136

Quote:

Originally Posted by lishi

Ok, lets make this clear. Anet had to do something.

So they banned all the guys who actually hacked the game.

Fair here, no one is complaning about that.

Now there were a bunch of people who didnt hacked the game but they were exploiting it anyway.

I guess anet chosed to ban everone who was actually farming and condone the people who just do it once.

I dont see anything wrong with it,

The had to make sure the thing didnt go unpunished.

People that did it once got banned, too. Everyone got banned.

Clait

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Braveheart World Xi [any]

W/A

11 Jan 2008 at 02:26 - 137

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Nonetheless, you're missing the point still: They weren't banned for going to the outpost, they were banned for hacking into the outpost. That was the only way to get into it, via a hack.

If that statement was true, I wouldn't have an err45. No hacking is involved. Its a simple ferry from the guild hall to a town. No different then what I said in my above post.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

11 Jan 2008 at 02:26 - 138

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexion

here comes my little spiffy troll moment:

GW probably just started this to cause a "GW Conspiracy Theory" like all of those on 9/11 and such. Making threads like these give them many laughs and such. :P

If this is all "untrue", then why ban 117 people?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexion

The way this happened was someone hacked with a third party program, it opened up an exploit w/o one and now many innocent people are banned because it was an exploit done by random party members that they didn't know.

Here's a recap: There was an outpost in the game that you could not reach by normal means. The only way to get there was through the use of a third party program. This is against the EULA because it's classified as "hacking" and is basically a rule-of-thumb for online games unless they list exceptions.

So in order to get to this area with a lot of people, the party leader would have to have a third-party program while playing Guild Wars - in other words, he is hacking.

The only way to go back to that outpost is A. if you're a hacker or B. Ask the hacker to take you back. The outpost is not "unlocked." You can't go back there by pressing M and clicking on the outpost without hacking.

~~~

Now, if you're not a hacker and you're taken to this outpost you've never heard of before, there should be some BIG glaring signs that you shouldn't be there. For one, it's unpopulated. Two, if you're in DoA then you've probably been playing for awhile and should know most of the game by now. If you continue to play anyway, then you're not really thinking.

The only "innocent" people I can think of are people who had no idea where they were being taken to and either went back to a different outpost or didn't go out and kill anything, or didn't get very far. If you went ahead and killed Mallyx, then you should be banned.

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:26 - 139

Here is my final statement because you all have bored me to death...

I still think ANet has full responsablity for this happening. They left this "secret outpost" open that could be opened no matter what. Exploit, hack, third party program - name it whatver. It still happened. Lots of innocent people were banned because they were too lazy to do a simple "delete outpost" procedure. Those innocent people might of been like me, someone that just thought this was new-content or content that most people didn't know about (like the Serenity Temple or Dragon's Gault in Ascalon)
They have left many other exploits/hacks slide by, and they are still happening today. Why does this one make any big difference?

Overall, if you have a problem with what my opinion is... flood my Private Message inbox. I'll be happy to respond to your fan mail.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:27 - 140

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clait

How many people got banned for using the free Zaishen chest "exploit?"

How many people got banned for getting a free ferry to the end of the game?

How many people got banned for getting a ferry to the deep, to urgoz or to slavers exile?

How many people got banned for /resigning in the Warrior Guild hall to be transported ANYWHERE in the game?

How many people got banned for using fort aspenwood, dragging all the necro npcs to the the base.. owning the other team?

How many people got banned for ferrying people from Kamadan to Consulate docks?

How many people have been banned in ab for dying at a gate and using necro transversal to go through it before the timer starts?

How many people have been banned for taking heros into AB and holding 64v64 matches?

How many people have been banned using the Warrior Guild hall trick to ferry people from Kamadan to LA without taking a quest?

How many people got banned for finding a bugged area while mapping and saw the "end of the world" effect?

How many people have been banned for vanquishing Bukdek Byway.. taking 2 quests.. and having to kill 1 enemy to vanquish?

How many people have used TexMod, a third party program, to obtain their cartographer title?

How many people have been banned for using Ventrilo, a third party program not supported by Anet?

When you question about how I know about all this, its simple. When you play the game for 30 months you find out about all these "exploits."

To say that ferrying to Mallyx is any different from the above is preposterous. Those guilty of any above are in the same position as this "exploit."

My question is.. where are these individual bans?

The difference is this outpost was hacked by a third party program, everything you mentioned wasn't.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Jan 2008 at 02:27 - 141

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clait

How many people got banned for using the free Zaishen chest "exploit?"

How many people got banned for getting a free ferry to the end of the game?

How many people got banned for getting a ferry to the deep, to urgoz or to slavers exile?

How many people got banned for /resigning in the Warrior Guild hall to be transported ANYWHERE in the game?

How many people got banned for using fort aspenwood, dragging all the necro npcs to the the base.. owning the other team?

How many people got banned for ferrying people from Kamadan to Consulate docks?

How many people have been banned in ab for dying at a gate and using necro transversal to go through it before the timer starts?

How many people have been banned for taking heros into AB and holding 64v64 matches?

How many people have been banned using the Warrior Guild hall trick to ferry people from Kamadan to LA without taking a quest?

How many people got banned for finding a bugged area while mapping and saw the "end of the world" effect?

How many people have been banned for vanquishing Bukdek Byway.. taking 2 quests.. and having to kill 1 enemy to vanquish?

How many people have used TexMod, a third party program, to obtain their cartographer title?

How many people have been banned for using Ventrilo, a third party program not supported by Anet?

When you question about how I know about all this, its simple. When you play the game for 30 months you find out about all these "exploits."

To say that ferrying to Mallyx is any different from the above is preposterous. Those guilty of any above are in the same position as this "exploit."

My question is.. where are these individual bans?

1) you dont get banned for using 3th party program who give some gain (good coordination with ventrillo), you might get banned, is anet choice.

they choiced to ban for this particular exploit, i agree with them.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Jan 2008 at 02:29 - 142

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey

People that did it once got banned, too. Everyone got banned.

but they clearly said they where very careful on banning those.

Who i should trust?

Rhapsody Shadow

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

R/

11 Jan 2008 at 02:31 - 143

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaky naughty

I believe that means real-world items?

no if you follow the user agreement word for word anyone that places an add,
ie WTS Black Dye

can be banned for breach of contract

Mickey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Eternal Insight

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:31 - 144

Quote:

Originally Posted by lishi

but they clearly said they where very careful on banning those.

Who i should trust?

They "carefully" found everyone who had been in the outpost, or done the quest from the outpost, which took no more than 5 minutes, highlighted all account names, and clicked the Ban button on their nifty little keyboard

Nah, just kidding, idk all of the people who were banned, so I have no idea how they did it, all I know is that alot of people associated with this were apparently perma-banned.

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

11 Jan 2008 at 02:32 - 145

Quote:

Originally Posted by lishi

but they clearly said they where very careful on banning those.

Who i should trust?

Well most of the people who are complaining here either implied or flat-out told us they did it more than once. So this time I'm taking Anets side. One time going in should be investigated. Twice should be an auto-ban.

DivineEnvoy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Me/P

11 Jan 2008 at 02:33 - 146

It is quite funny how people have to hack in Guild Wars.

Of course, we need to note that within those 117 people, there are people who had no idea that they were exploiting a bug as they were just dragged into this horrible mess. However, we need to understand that their accounts are banned for temporary measure, so that the economy won't be affected by this problem. If you are one of the 117 people, good luck to you, and if you are truly as innocent as you speak of, I hope the best resolution can be made.

However, with this said, we need to note, there are those people who exploited the bug and hacked the game. Even though Anet may have been a contributer to this problem, we should not overlook that these players have the responsibility to their account for not hacking and exploiting a bug. In other words, if they deserved it, they will be banned, and I really don't see the point in defending them as if they are truly innocent.

chaoticimajar

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mika Nakashima (Mika)

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:34 - 147

its just saying there were more than 117 people doing this the 117 must have been extreme cases such as myself who's done it so many times i can do it with my eyes close and with my foot

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:34 - 148

I feel that the ban is needed because of the severity of the consequences. In a way, it rewards the 'exploiters' with more wealth (gems/greens/golds) if they are not punished.

If someone is accidentally brought there, and done the exploit once only. I believe he/she should be spared from the ban stick. But however, if he did a few times, then sadly, he/she needs a very very good arguement to not get the punishment.

But then again, if I accidentally discover such a outpost. 1 gemset every (how many mins again), I think I will be farming that area instead of thinking if it is an exploit, and whether I will be banned for it.

Mickey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Eternal Insight

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:34 - 149

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoticimajar

its just saying there were more than 117 people doing this the 117 must have been extreme cases such as myself who's done it so many times i can do it with my eyes close and with my foot

I am DEFINITELY not one of the 117 then.

Edit: I posted earlier, I did it 5 times, once to finish the quest, 4 more times because my friends told me it was fine, and that there was no exploit or bug. I stopped after that. I also posted that it was my first time doing Mallyx. Ever. So I really had no idea what was going on. If there are more people out there that did this and are still online, I'm just a tiny bit pissed.

Sub Frost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Portugal

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:34 - 150

Guess using a pick to express one's opinion only works "sometimes".

Anyway regarding the [Dev Update], good work on fixing the Exploit and Banning the people that used it.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

11 Jan 2008 at 02:35 - 151

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoticimajar

i blame anet for allowing this area to be on a non test server take it out if you don't want people doing it...

I blame the person who needed to brag about this on the boards two days ago.

First rule of MMOs: You do not talk about exploits.
Second rule of MMOs: You do not talk about exploits.

This exploit was apparently known for months. It was reported for months. Yet it wasn't until someone spilled the beans on forums that bans happened.

Remember the first rule of MMOs?

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

11 Jan 2008 at 02:35 - 152

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexion

I still think ANet has full responsablity for this happening. They left this "secret outpost" open that could be opened no matter what. Exploit, hack, third party program - name it whatver. It still happened.

The outpost was hidden and had never existed before. It could *only* be reached with a hack. They were banning people for hacking and banning people who could not think clearly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexion

Those innocent people might of been like me, someone that just thought this was new-content or content that most people didn't know about (like the Serenity Temple or Dragon's Gault in Ascalon)

That would be a very swarmed outpost if it was right outside of Mallyx's gates. And if it was in an update, word would've gotten out quickly: Remember how totally crowded Urgoz became when you were able to farm the beginning area?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexion

They have left many other exploits/hacks slide by and they are still happening today. Why does this one make any big difference?

An exploit and a hack are two very different things.

stefke86

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

11 Jan 2008 at 02:35 - 153

Honestly, i think when 117 people are smart enough to actually hack Anets servers I say, employ them, they'll probably do better that the current team out there.

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

11 Jan 2008 at 02:36 - 154

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoticimajar

its just saying there were more than 117 people doing this the 117 must have been extreme cases such as myself who's done it so many times i can do it with my eyes close and with my foot

Yeah Mickey doesn't strike me as the heavy exploiter so I doubt your friend will be playing for so long, btw how long did this thing last before they were caught?

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

11 Jan 2008 at 02:36 - 155

Quote:

Originally Posted by freaky naughty

I believe that means real-world items?

Ya, it does. Also covers gold-selling sites and the like. Anyway, we're being dragged-offtopic by someone who doesn't comprehend the rules.

On-topic, the excuse "only one person had to hack to give all of us access" is really, really weak. That just means you're knowingly using the result of a hack, thus no better than the one who opened the exploit in the first place.

El Presidente

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Custer Was Ganked [7th]

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:36 - 156

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoticimajar

no thats is not true i know someone who was taken there and done it twice no names coming from myself and is still online and playing

On the first page, in Gaile's statement..."and we will ban more accounts as appropriate as we review additional logs gathered after the initial bans".

zerulus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

11 Jan 2008 at 02:41 - 157

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clait

How many people got banned for using the free Zaishen chest "exploit?"

How many people got banned for getting a free ferry to the end of the game?

How many people got banned for getting a ferry to the deep, to urgoz or to slavers exile?

How many people got banned for /resigning in the Warrior Guild hall to be transported ANYWHERE in the game?

How many people got banned for using fort aspenwood, dragging all the necro npcs to the the base.. owning the other team?

How many people got banned for ferrying people from Kamadan to Consulate docks?

How many people have been banned in ab for dying at a gate and using necro transversal to go through it before the timer starts?

How many people have been banned for taking heros into AB and holding 64v64 matches?

How many people have been banned using the Warrior Guild hall trick to ferry people from Kamadan to LA without taking a quest?

How many people got banned for finding a bugged area while mapping and saw the "end of the world" effect?

How many people have been banned for vanquishing Bukdek Byway.. taking 2 quests.. and having to kill 1 enemy to vanquish?

How many people have used TexMod, a third party program, to obtain their cartographer title?

How many people have been banned for using Ventrilo, a third party program not supported by Anet?

When you question about how I know about all this, its simple. When you play the game for 30 months you find out about all these "exploits."

To say that ferrying to Mallyx is any different from the above is preposterous. Those guilty of any above are in the same position as this "exploit."

My question is.. where are these individual bans?

They could ban these people as well if they like. Anet doesn't have to give the same punishment to everyone, they don't have to treat everyone equally. If someone breaks the user agreement they can hand out whatever punishment they see fit. People shouldn't be unbanned just because not everyone involved or not everyone who has done someting wrong has been punished. The fact is they did something that was clearly wrong, they got caught and they suffered the consequences. Maybe they will use better judgement in the future, but I doubt it.

chaoticimajar

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mika Nakashima (Mika)

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11 Jan 2008 at 02:42 - 158

do you understand what i am saying though 117 people didn't HACK please get that through your heads 1 guy showed someone and it chained to other people. people who did it once just to see what it was had no idea what they were getting into. if i rememeber'd the guys name i'd give it out but some people whom were banned didn't diserve it.

Azarr#1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

IOWA

swat

Mo/

11 Jan 2008 at 02:43 - 159

Seriously People act like this is another exploit where they can copy ectos or copy ambraces. This is not one of those incidences my friend that did this. just wanted it done fast and easy. From what he told me it took about 20 minutes to do just for one set of gems. This is a small exploit because when ive gone out and wanted to buy ectos ive had people pm me saying they had 20 stacks of ectos they want to sell and their not banned give me a break. Im not farming DOA until the innocent get unbanned. I am very experienced at farming it and last time I went to DOA it has lost alot of people It takes me only 2 and a half hours to do a full mallyx run all four bosses and way more gems. The mapping glitch I heard of that came around and got fixed the next day. But then the mapping glitch came back come on arenanet cant you fix a glitch and keep it fixed, I bet more people mapped on the second time around then anything. I sort of wanted to be a part of that Im not going to lie I want to get as much done as possible before GW2 comes out and get as many titles as possible. but it takes more money then I can get to buy sweet tooth and drunkard max.

boo28338

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

ANY

P/Mo

11 Jan 2008 at 02:43 - 160

first of all. there were people banned that didnt know it was wrong. Since they had never killed Mallyx, they assumed it was like the sorrows funace quest " a final assault" where only one person needed to have it to be able to go straight to mallayx.