quicksilv3r
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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste
Here is the thing:
People who got banned: Hated Anet for banning their account They are on fire(mad, enojadan) People who didn't get banned: Gj for Anet on cleaning out 117 hackers! And then........ FLAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>.>---^---<.< |
SolidShadow
Arch the
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Originally Posted by dkn doko
i agree with you 100%. We are using the same files as everyone else. The people that used the guild hall glitch, did they get banned? no i think not. Did they use an exploit to benfit themselves, yes they did. So really what is the difference. Like someone said before some of the armbraces dulpers got there accounts back so is this a fair punishinment? i think not
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The Great Ithqua
Harrier's haste
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Originally Posted by quicksilv3r
thats negative! bro, i am not banned! And am angry that anet banned them elite 117's and not ban people who sell runs get max armor and ferry's to LA or KC to lvl3 kamdan natives., they r exploiting too
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Harrier's haste
Zehnchu
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Originally Posted by truzo 117
You just dont read. no one hacked or used a 3rd party tool of any kind.
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Messy
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Originally Posted by The Great Ithqua
this thread so gone so long that i dont have time to read all 60 pages, i was one of the 117 people that gone ban, went there twice got only crap drops from mobs and some cash we didnt even get the door open. Here's what =i felt when i first knew about this, of course i was shock then i said how was this possible my party said they had no idea, obviously the party leader had a monk parked there.i find it very hard to believe but they said its perfectly normal.(FYI i think i was one of the guild alliance of that guild that knew this well maybe )
i dont mind you calling me stupid but i didnt knew the outpost was a bug/hack there was any word that says bug or anything ,until the day before yesterday when my account was ban and i came here to read .i have no solid evidence to back up my story but i believe Anet will give me a fair answer(hopefully)but if it doesnt i will just go play CabalSea. |
Gaile Gray
Creeping Carl
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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste
Here is the thing:
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Arch the
SolidShadow
erikjo
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I would like to settle a question that some have raised. Was a hack involved in this exploit? Yes. If it "wasn't an exploit," or "was a simple ferrying maneuver," then perhaps one of you innocent travelers can explain that to me via PM? For the way I understand it, and I've just spent time with the content programming team to confirm, you get to the outpost by hacking the client, or by using the exploit gained through the client hack. I just watched a few programmers use every trick in the book, including Guild Halls and other things, to try to end up at that hidden outpost (as a few players have claimed they did.) And the programmers could not make it happen.
You didn't get to the outpost from a crash, a server burp, a roll-back, a glitch with the Guild Hall, or a sacrifice to Grenth. So my point is, some of the banned players may not have done the actual hacking, but they certainly used the exploit that resulted from the hack, and they certainly were able to profit from it. As someone on the team said, "They get a ferry -- usually having being told such access is 'top secret' and after being sworn to secrecy. They end up in a outpost that doesn't show on their map, that they've never seen before (even though they completed the mission), and that contains no NPCs. At some point, they have to realize that something isn't right, particularly since they've completed the mission and they know that getting the end reward involves doing a lot more than simply taking out Mallyx." I am not going to speak in absolutes. But I am not going to see you lied to, either. If someone can disprove this, please let me know, because all of us believe this to be 100% true: Everything logical, and everything we've been able to establish points out that those who used the exploit benefited, directly or indirectly, from a game hack. And both exploits and hacks are against the User Agreement. Isn't it really that simple? |
ghostlyfenix
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Originally Posted by pochoWICKED
Yea I got banned too. Not Happy about it. A lot of 1337 people got banned for this. And I think we should have at least got a warning or something before a straight-up permanent ban. Whatever though, I just don't think it's right, because pretty much everyone involved in this has been playing for like 2 years and has spent a lot of money buying expansions, char slots, etc....
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Cuthroat Dibbler
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I would like to settle a question that some have raised. Was a hack involved in this exploit? Yes. If it "wasn't an exploit," or "was a simple ferrying maneuver," then perhaps one of you innocent travelers can explain that to me via PM? For the way I understand it, and I've just spent time with the content programming team to confirm, you get to the outpost by hacking the client, or by using the exploit gained through the client hack. I just watched a few programmers use every trick in the book, including Guild Halls and other things, to try to end up at that hidden outpost (as a few players have claimed they did.) And the programmers could not make it happen.
You didn't get to the outpost from a crash, a server burp, a roll-back, a glitch with the Guild Hall, or a sacrifice to Grenth. So my point is, some of the banned players may not have done the actual hacking, but they certainly used the exploit that resulted from the hack, and they certainly were able to profit from it. As someone on the team said, "They get a ferry -- usually having being told such access is 'top secret' and after being sworn to secrecy. They end up in a outpost that doesn't show on their map, that they've never seen before (even though they completed the mission), and that contains no NPCs. At some point, they have to realize that something isn't right, particularly since they've completed the mission and they know that getting the end reward involves doing a lot more than simply taking out Mallyx." I am not going to speak in absolutes. But I am not going to see you lied to, either. If someone can disprove this, please let me know. But in the meantime, everything logical, and everything we've been able to establish points out that those who used the exploit benefited, directly or indirectly, from a game hack. And both exploits and hacks are against the User Agreement. Isn't it really that simple? |
quicksilv3r
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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste
No but seriously my bad for making anyone feel really really really bad.
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Jake_Steel
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I would like to settle a question that some have raised. Was a hack involved in this exploit? Yes. If it "wasn't an exploit," or "was a simple ferrying maneuver," then perhaps one of you innocent travelers can explain that to me via PM? For the way I understand it, and I've just spent time with the content programming team to confirm, you get to the outpost by hacking the client, or by using the exploit gained through the client hack. I just watched a few programmers use every trick in the book, including Guild Halls and other things, to try to end up at that hidden outpost (as a few players have claimed they did.) And the programmers could not make it happen.
You didn't get to the outpost from a crash, a server burp, a roll-back, a glitch with the Guild Hall, or a sacrifice to Grenth. So my point is, some of the banned players may not have done the actual hacking, but they certainly used the exploit that resulted from the hack, and they certainly were able to profit from it. As someone on the team said, "They get a ferry -- usually having being told such access is 'top secret' and after being sworn to secrecy. They end up in a outpost that doesn't show on their map, that they've never seen before (even though they completed the mission), and that contains no NPCs. At some point, they have to realize that something isn't right, particularly since they've completed the mission and they know that getting the end reward involves doing a lot more than simply taking out Mallyx." I am not going to speak in absolutes. But I am not going to see you lied to, either. If someone can disprove this, please let me know, because all of us believe this to be 100% true: Everything logical, and everything we've been able to establish points out that those who used the exploit benefited, directly or indirectly, from a game hack. And both exploits and hacks are against the User Agreement. Isn't it really that simple? |
I D E L E T E D I
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I would like to settle a question that some have raised. Was a hack involved in this exploit? Yes. If it "wasn't an exploit," or "was a simple ferrying maneuver," then perhaps one of you innocent travelers can explain that to me via PM? For the way I understand it, and I've just spent time with the content programming team to confirm, you get to the outpost by hacking the client, or by using the exploit gained through the client hack. I just watched a few programmers use every trick in the book, including Guild Halls and other things, to try to end up at that hidden outpost (as a few players have claimed they did.) And the programmers could not make it happen.
You didn't get to the outpost from a crash, a server burp, a roll-back, a glitch with the Guild Hall, or a sacrifice to Grenth. So my point is, some of the banned players may not have done the actual hacking, but they certainly used the exploit that resulted from the hack, and they certainly were able to profit from it. As someone on the team said, "They get a ferry -- usually having being told such access is 'top secret' and after being sworn to secrecy. They end up in a outpost that doesn't show on their map, that they've never seen before (even though they completed the mission), and that contains no NPCs. At some point, they have to realize that something isn't right, particularly since they've completed the mission and they know that getting the end reward involves doing a lot more than simply taking out Mallyx." I am not going to speak in absolutes. But I am not going to see you lied to, either. If someone can disprove this, please let me know, because all of us believe this to be 100% true: Everything logical, and everything we've been able to establish points out that those who used the exploit benefited, directly or indirectly, from a game hack. And both exploits and hacks are against the User Agreement. Isn't it really that simple? |
akazukin cha cha
quicksilv3r
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Originally Posted by Arch the
come on ANET you ban these 117 people so quickly but you leave those Bergan Hot Spring bots farming undead, Altrumn Ruins bots farming wardens, Maatu Keep bots farming those funny looking things, Elona Reach bots farming minotours, Droks bots farming trolls.
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pablo24
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I would like to settle a question that some have raised. Was a hack involved in this exploit? Yes. If it "wasn't an exploit," or "was a simple ferrying maneuver," then perhaps one of you innocent travelers can explain that to me via PM? For the way I understand it, and I've just spent time with the content programming team to confirm, you get to the outpost by hacking the client, or by using the exploit gained through the client hack. I just watched a few programmers use every trick in the book, including Guild Halls and other things, to try to end up at that hidden outpost (as a few players have claimed they did.) And the programmers could not make it happen.
You didn't get to the outpost from a crash, a server burp, a roll-back, a glitch with the Guild Hall, or a sacrifice to Grenth. So my point is, some of the banned players may not have done the actual hacking, but they certainly used the exploit that resulted from the hack, and they certainly were able to profit from it. As someone on the team said, "They get a ferry -- usually having being told such access is 'top secret' and after being sworn to secrecy. They end up in a outpost that doesn't show on their map, that they've never seen before (even though they completed the mission), and that contains no NPCs. At some point, they have to realize that something isn't right, particularly since they've completed the mission and they know that getting the end reward involves doing a lot more than simply taking out Mallyx." I am not going to speak in absolutes. But I am not going to see you lied to, either. If someone can disprove this, please let me know, because all of us believe this to be 100% true: Everything logical, and everything we've been able to establish points out that those who used the exploit benefited, directly or indirectly, from a game hack. And both exploits and hacks are against the User Agreement. Isn't it really that simple? |
bhavv
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I am not going to speak in absolutes. But I am not going to see you lied to, either. If someone can disprove this, please let me know
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capblye
Harrier's haste
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Originally Posted by Creeping Carl
Is it really necessary for you to post the exact same damn thing twice?
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SolidShadow
maraxusofk
Mickey
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Originally Posted by capblye
Sooooooooooooo many self righteous people in GW!
It truly saddens me to see so many holier than thou's in this community, as if they are better than the next person. Justice can serve no man fairly without Humility. Whether you think you would have used the exploit or not, do you really feel the need to procalim yourself judge and jury without knowing all the facts? Can you ever know all the facts? I think not. "But Gaile says blah blah blah" Ya, ok, and so it's gospel? This is why PUG's are dying ... because there are too many damn self righteous people in this community who care nothing for anyone or anything but themselves and what people think of them. Sad ... As i said in another post, i dont know any of the Banned people, and im not one of em ... but i still think the Perma Ban is unfair. You want to Ban em for a month to make a point? fine. You want to retract their items to make a point? fine. But to take away something from them they paid real money for? Nonsense. Playing Guild Wars is not a PRIVELGE to the players. They paid for it in cash. Playing Guild Wars is a GIFT to Anet. They paid someones salary. Let's not forget that. |
Harrier's haste
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Originally Posted by pipedream
TO ANET:
Q: So, what is the one thing you could have done? A: Make it so if you want to leave your guild hall and you are in a party, you are separated from that party. WOW!!! HOW SIMPLE WAS THAT YOU RETARDS??? |
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maraxusofk
Jake_Steel
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Originally Posted by pipedream
TO ANET:
I have not been effected by this but I have a friend who has. This person has dedicated 7000+ hours to his account and you just feel you have the right to ban him for being in a party that took him to this glitch. I can't believe you are banning people because your programmers are incompetent. I personally don't care if thousands of people found the glitch and used it. FIX THE DAMN GLITCH!!! You could have temporally fixed it by changing ONE THING until your idiot programmers figured out how to stop it. Q: So, what is the one thing you could have done? A: Make it so if you want to leave your guild hall and you are in a party, you are separated from that party. WOW!!! HOW SIMPLE WAS THAT YOU RETARDS??? I am glad I started playing Call of Duty 4. As I said I wasn't even effected by this but your decision to ban for this crap made me not want to have any part in GW or ANET. Everyone should protest and I hope they do. I wish the community would try to organize a GW black out. If you don't reverse these banned you really are a bunch of @ssholes. Well, off to play COD4. Signed, An enraged customer (possibly former) with 17 player slots, 500k+ and millions in equipment.   |
lacasner
erikjo
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Originally Posted by capblye
Sooooooooooooo many self righteous people in GW!
It truly saddens me to see so many holier than thou's in this community, as if they are better than the next person. Justice can serve no man fairly without Humility. Whether you think you would have used the exploit or not, do you really feel the need to procalim yourself judge and jury without knowing all the facts? Can you ever know all the facts? I think not. "But Gaile says blah blah blah" Ya, ok, and so it's gospel? This is why PUG's are dying ... because there are too many damn self righteous people in this community who care nothing for anyone or anything but themselves and what people think of them. Sad ... As i said in another post, i dont know any of the Banned people, and im not one of em ... but i still think the Perma Ban is unfair. You want to Ban em for a month to make a point? fine. You want to retract their items to make a point? fine. But to take away something from them they paid real money for? Nonsense. Playing Guild Wars is not a PRIVELGE to the players. They paid for it in cash. Playing Guild Wars is a GIFT to Anet. They paid someones salary. Let's not forget that. |
Harrier's haste
maraxusofk
The Great Ithqua
Rift
Swift Thief
Harrier's haste
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Originally Posted by maraxusofk
a good alternativwe to a perma ban would be to reset all of someone's titles, fame, and delete all their chars. at least they keep their account.
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maraxusofk
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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste
That would be like the same as a permanent ban....except you don't have to spend $200 to get all of the GW packages again, which i seriously doubt anyone got banned will do
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Messy
