[Dev Update] Exploits and Bans – 10 January 2008

Originally Posted by SolidShadow

Fact: most of the players had more then 5k hour ingame time, as probably a dedicated player yourself you know you wont do something wich gets you banned on an account wich got that much hours played.

Obviously NON-FACT otherwise we would not be having this converstion (oh - the bit about 500 hours would most likely have been fact, but the bit about not doing something risking a ban was clearly not as today proves).

Fact: if it would last few more hours more then 10.000 people would have done it.

Hmmm - given that this has been revealed as being an closely guarded secret since mid November that has grown to 117, I would have to say this was SUPPOSITION.


Fact: everyone except for the one who started this 3rd party exploid wich is confirmed is injustished.

Nope - wrong again - this time you have OPINION and it isn't even an opinion shared with all the 117 - I would like to congratulate those that put up their hands, copped it sweet and said that you had done wrong. I would like there to be some way to get you guys back in the game at some later time.

Fact: they took the easy way out by just banning everyone involved.

UNTRUTH - they banned those that continually expoited - not everyone that even used it

Fact: lots of angy people cause of injustice.

FIB - there are a number of angry people beliving they or their friends have been treated unjustly, but there is a massive majority who congratulate ANET for the actions taken to protect the game.

The relationship officiers in this thread are showing the admin point of view wich is very understanable , the banned people are showing the community side of view also understanable.

TRIPE - the banned people, by and large, are showing off their own self interest and justification (again, congrats to the brave few who are able to face up to things). To try and express their view as the community view is just staggering.

So before you post please read the comments of the people really involved and ask yourself why would a person with 10k hours risking to get his account banned. Trust me its not the mony.

Originally Posted by jrk247

Actually you trolled me for pointing out that you were being rude to the artist by badgering him for a commission in his art thread. And then you later called me a jerk because we all know my username means jerk... Gotta love ignorance. Anyways it's over and I think it's funny you kept PMing me trying to get me to delete my forum posts that had your quoted posts in them. You made yourself look like a dumbass then tried telling me to destroy the evidence. So please get the story right, thanks.

Originally Posted by Cobalt

Like I said before making areas like DoA that are to difficult for the majority and hold highly sought after items only encourages cheating. That being said I think they (Anet) should indeed take some of the blame for what has transpired.

Originally Posted by SolidShadow

Read and you discover that most people did not where aware of it was beeing created by 3rd party software and youll learn that such bugs been around a long time and have been farmed alot also.

im feeling sorry for the ppl who already could have not beeing playing for 2days, 2 days to hell so far. Hope this stuff sorts out soon.

gaile did not ban the accounts, he/she is just sorting out the mess finding out wich was really going on.

about closing this thread, be glad angry ppl post in 1 thread and dont make a mess of the forums.

Originally Posted by SolidShadow

he/she never lied, there just the persons trying to clean up and sort out the mess the support teams are making.

Players involved replying there opinions , meanwhile its getting flamed by people who see the word hack and keep yelling ban everyone.


// true the last gaile post was very clarifying

Originally Posted by truzo 117

There is no hacking and yet gaile said there was.. somone lied and it wasnt me

Originally Posted by truzo 117

There is no hacking and yet gaile said there was.. somone lied and it wasnt me

Originally Posted by Keekles

Once again, can you provide me proof that there was no hacking? I trust a-net more than you.

Originally Posted by truzo 117

Once again, can you provide me proof that there WAS Hacking ?

Originally Posted by truzo 117

Once again, can you provide me proof that there WAS Hacking ?

And yes tell anet to unban me and undo the Fix. i will show you all in this forum and any GM that wants to see how its done.

Infact. give me a Clean Account thats NEVER completed DoA with thr fix undone. i will personally go through DoA and mallyx just to get to the town to proove you all wrong

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

As someone on the team said, "They get a ferry -- usually having being told such access is 'top secret' and after being sworn to secrecy. They end up in a outpost that doesn't show on their map......

Originally Posted by ElinoraNeSangre

Rather than get angry, you may want to just try sending how you did it to [email protected]; they could not repro it in house as far as I know clean like that, so I would bet they would be very interested in having that information. They would need to do it on their accounts for it to be valid, and that keeps it from being spread all over the forum.

Originally Posted by truzo 117

Once again, can you provide me proof that there WAS Hacking ?

And yes tell anet to unban me and undo the Fix. i will show you all in this forum and any GM that wants to see how its done.

Infact. give me a Clean Account thats NEVER completed DoA with thr fix undone. i will personally go through DoA and mallyx just to get to the town to proove you all wrong

Originally Posted by truzo 117

okay, this a full mini guide how the mallyx/hidden town WAS done. this post is purly for educational purposes only and to clear up some FACT's and myth's

After knowing the truth about the town you will realise that it was a accident that could have been found by anyone who ever uses DoA and fught mallyx.

First of all. you need to have completed the first 4 areas and have the mallyx quest open in your log.

now, you then went in to kill mallyx as you would have done normaly to complete the quest. While in with mallyx (or the bit just before or mallyx himself it doesnt matter) your party then wipes (doesnt matter if your alone or in a team)

once your a squishy mess on the floor and the quest failed you press G and map to your guild hall (which you could have done anyways because you were miffed that you just failed)

you then can (from your guild hall) press the G and map back from your guild (yeh i know ill map back to DoA and get another team to try again) but NO !! you accidently get to the "hidden citadel of mallyx" secret town. so providing you dont leave your guild, you can hit G and map there as much as you like.

the only REQ to take other people there are: They also must have faced mallyx at some point it doesnt matter when it also doesnt matter if the other people have the mallyx quest or not. but they must be able to get to your guild hall (guild member or guest invite)

so you can map people there, once the people are there you change char and get a guild member (who you just maped to the town) to map you there.

Also in the town there is a "Enter Misson" button on the party info at the side

so now you all go in, kill mallyx or fail as normal.

when done, you all map out to DoA to get the quest again. and with your other char that still holds the town you map everyone there again and repeat.

note that this is no longer possible !!! and this post is just here to shut up the people who think its a hack. and if you people read carefuly you will see that the first time it was found was a complete accident no hack no 3rd party program. Anet did lie to you all - maybe they said it was a hack because they didnt know how it was done themself maybe which is fair enough.

Anet are good at fixing things in game and as you see whs fixed really quick.
but the point of the matter is, one person needs a quest to map them the same as Duncan or a Taxi to Docks for better armour. no body sould have got banned for a taxi. anet didnt properly seal off the hidden town - all they had to do was remove the "enter mission" button from the party info.

You may agree with the ban you may not - who cares. my point is that no hacking no 3rd party programs, just a error by anet and people were wrongly banned. yes a 72 hour ban for a taxi - but thats about it.

im now free from guild wars so it really doesnt affect me.

Now... can i get a show of hands who laughed ?

Originally Posted by Clait

Ebony Citadel - 10 Step Process.

To access the mallyx town..

1. A player had to complete the 4 DoA quests beforehand.

2. Know somebody that had access to the Ebony Citadel town.

3. The person that had the town saved, would use G menu to leave guild hall.

4. People arrived in Ebony Citadel of Mallyx.

5. Party leader hit "enter mission"

6. Team faced off against waves of DoA spawns.. which took around 15 minutes.

7. Team killed Mallyx after spawns

8. One player kept the town as their last location. Everyone else left to retake quest and regrouped at the guild hall.

9. The player that saved the town came to gh, then mapped a teammate to the town.

10. Team reformed under player that had town saved and repeated the process.

I don’t know how the original person accessed the town (#2). This wasn't a hack. It was simply mapping from the guild hall to the citadel.

Originally Posted by leprekan

I don't think Anet will own up to what it was since they went ban happy on this and not the Duncan ferry.