The Xunlai Marketplace thread

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

I don't get it, maybe I am too stupid? If someone find the words "Xunlai Market" in GW.DAT, that means we will have a Trade House with all that features? why? My mind is not enough for this, I need help!

Hunmassiv

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Join Date: Jul 2007

Hungary

Guardians of the Stars [GOTS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Theres lots of things thats created but never activated or hasnt been activated yet or is deprecated code.

I wouldn't look too hard into it guys. Considering this stuff's been in there for about a year now.....
Quote:
Code:
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The item you are about to purchase has been dedicated at a Hall of Monuments. You cannot dedicate items at your Hall of Monuments if they have been previously dedicated. Do you still want to buy [the] %str1% for %str2%?Ô
...
Do you think this string is in the GW.dat file for about a year?

lyra_song

lyra_song

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Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunmassiv
Do you think this string is in the GW.dat file for about a year?
How long ago was EOTN in alpha?

While this updated version mentions dedicated items, I don't see it as proof that this will ever be released.

Coridan

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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Dedicated items didn't come around until after the release of EotN everything was at first customized. Dedicated came about from people griping about not being able to use mini pets on other characters on the account. IMO that should have made them nontradeable as well...but now we have 2 markets for mini pets.

RotteN

RotteN

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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lots of rumors and even more rumors.

ok, it is in the gw.dat
as long as we don't get any official word on this that can mean anything from testing to cancelled projects ...

Abnaxus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Keepers of Chaos

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
3 years too late, although it would be nice to have
I see this as an experiment for GW2 more than an addition to the current games.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

.-. while this is really cool that its in there....

The Eternal Sword / Turai Sword skin was in prophecies in the VERY beginning, and didn't get added till very recently.

Just cause its in there....doesn't really mean anything to me.

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by RotteN
lots of rumors and even more rumors.

ok, it is in the gw.dat
as long as we don't get any official word on this that can mean anything from testing to cancelled projects ...
What about the fact Gaile has been avoiding commenting on it?

I'm not going to get my hopes up, but if it were a cancelled project that has no chance of being released, I'm sure they'd just come out and tell us. But there is evidence that this stuff has been added fairly recently, so there is some hope that it's coming..

tmr819

tmr819

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abnaxus
I see this as an experiment for GW2 more than an addition to the current games.
If it's an experiment for GW2, I'd sure like to see them experiment with more storage space, better/more interface options, and the use of of 7 Heroes. Just ... as an experiment, mind you.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

see Hero Online, for this type of trading

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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I hope we get something, even if it's something to test out somethiing for GW2

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
What about the fact Gaile has been avoiding commenting on it?

I'm not going to get my hopes up, but if it were a cancelled project that has no chance of being released, I'm sure they'd just come out and tell us. But there is evidence that this stuff has been added fairly recently, so there is some hope that it's coming..
Avoiding commenting on it for what... three and a half hours, now? This thread started just this morning.

I wonder if Gaile is even at work yet.

Having said that, I'm not exactly jumping for joy at the inevitability of this. WTS unsubstantiated rumors, 0g!!!

EDIT: My apologies. I see she commented on something else in the other thread and didn't mention the most interesting topic of discussion. I'm still not going to hold my breath, though.

Hailfall

Hailfall

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Germany

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This reminds me of the system they have in Silkroad where you can put up your stall from things in your inventory, put a fixed price in and just stand there AFK until someone buys all your things. After that your stall automatically closes, people there also can chat to you (if you are there of course ) and maybe haggle the price or ask if you have any other things..

Anyhow, im curious to see if this is true and how it will work.

Brianna

Brianna

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Join Date: Feb 2006

I'd recommend that no one expects this to come out, because you could be disappointed, which is your own fault if you are, naturally.

RazorEdge

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Norway

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Fees are pretty much standard for auction houses in online games. I wouldn't worry too much about that. If this were to ever be implented, I'm sure 90% of the playerbase would use it. If it's still capped at 100k, high end items can still be sold through the forums.

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

It is way to late to put this in. If they have a set up your own shop type thing in a town ment for it all you will see is a full dist of AFK shop keeps all selling the same stuff just like it is now in the party search.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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You gotta remember that they have a bunch of stuff in gw.dat related to Utopia, and we all know that never materialized.

Sounds like ANet needs to clean up the .dat file for these old potential projects, to avoid hype (and the resulting disappointment) such as this...

zwei2stein

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
I'd recommend that no one expects this to come out, because you could be disappointed, which is your own fault if you are, naturally.
imho, best stance on this is very, very careful optimism.

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

I recommend that people start expecting this to be released. Even a system lacking clever features would be an improvement over the mess that trading is right now. Let us put some pressure on Anet to make a real and long requested improvement to the game.

Also, this is not without benefit to Anet. They would get possibly the most extensive stress test for any marketplace system they have in store for GW2. You cannot pay money for this kind of testing. GW1 is developmentally EOL'd already, so there isn't even that much risk.

fog_of_redoubt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Whether it is coming or not...

Stop referring to it as an Auction Hall. An Auction implies multple people bidding on an item, an item being up for auction for x number of days, putting mechanics in place to prevent false bids, and price jacking, etc...

What it appears might be implemented is a simple market place. You list your items at a price and they sell or not. Much like is currently implemented with the Merchant, Rune Trader, etc.

There is a big difference between these two concepts, and I would assume a big difference in complexity.

Anet always said NO Auction Hall... They have always implied trade improvements were possible in the future. So perhaps.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

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Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Even if this thing is real, why would anyone use it? I mean if it costs to list things in it, I'll just continue to use Guru Auctions were it costs me nothing to list of goods.

I'd buy from it, but not sell.
Maybe someone should make WoWGURU Auctions too, see if it's a success.

It costs nothing to use, after all, unlike the in-game auction house.

MirkoTeran

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

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Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Even if this thing is real, why would anyone use it? I mean if it costs to list things in it, I'll just continue to use Guru Auctions were it costs me nothing to list of goods.
I would use it. My time (to setup a thread on guru) is worth a lot more to me then 100g(or whatever the price might be) in-game.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma
It costs nothing to use, after all, unlike the in-game auction house.
Its only free if your time is worth nothing.

sterbenx2

sterbenx2

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Join Date: Jul 2007

New England

Lunatic Legion

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Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
What about the fact Gaile has been avoiding commenting on it?

I'm not going to get my hopes up, but if it were a cancelled project that has no chance of being released, I'm sure they'd just come out and tell us. But there is evidence that this stuff has been added fairly recently, so there is some hope that it's coming..
QFT. It could be a clue that there is something in the works as Gaile DOES pretend not to know anything about it. She talks directly to the design team all te time, I'm sure she would have simply ASKED them before pretending not to know anything about it.

Look at the the polar bear situation. She flat out denied its existance before it was actually released. If she denies this, I will be more apt to believe that it IS coming, I think her "I don't know" response is just another tactic for dealing with leaked information.

Solange

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Even if this thing is real, why would anyone use it? I mean if it costs to list things in it, I'll just continue to use Guru Auctions were it costs me nothing to list of goods.

I'd buy from it, but not sell.
Because its a hassle for the majority of people to LEAVE the game, register on some website, take a screenshot(s) of the item(s) (maybe edit the screenshot which takes more time), and add text describing the item

Its extra time that people don't want AWAY from the game

Its the same reason I'd like built in VOICE CHAT for guild wars instead of having to download Ventrilo or Teamspeak and set that all up...it adds another 15-30 minutes for our guild vs guild battles getting others without ventrilo setup and its a hassle that could be done without

Blonde Warrior

Blonde Warrior

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Psycho Titans[PT]

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Sounds promising.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
Its only free if your time is worth nothing.
My point exactly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solange
Because its a hassle for the majority of people to LEAVE the game, register on some website, take a screenshot(s) of the item(s) (maybe edit the screenshot which takes more time), and add text describing the item

Its extra time that people don't want AWAY from the game
You forgot to mention the "contact the buyer/seller via email" and "arrange the time & place to meet" steps, which personally I find them to be the most inconvenient thing ever, especially when your timezones are different (a lot different).

And the whole "fake auction" thing and "oh, I sold it already" etc etc.

...

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

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Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
And what is your point, "kkthx" boy?

Things i mentioned are in game, coded and included in dat file. Solid stuff.
Which simply means they might've and probably scrapped it in progress

G'day mate

stretchs

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

This information in the dat file has been changing recently. This is not old stuff being stagnant, as posted by several other dat file surfers, it was initially called Marketplace and then changed to Xunlei Market. As well things like dedicated and the sort show the recent nature of these developments. As we all know dedicated was just a month or so ago when it initially started after the "customized" debacle with minipets after the initial HoM offering. So it could be something they are testing for GW2, I would doubt it having tested it on this engine, it could be something they are toying with and never comes about, OR it could be a nice surprise we get to see in the near future if the bugs are sorted out. Regardless until Gaile or another member of the GW staff comments on it, we really have no way to know if it is or isnt going to come about.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Which simply means they might've and probably scrapped it in progress

G'day mate
Or they might've and not scrapped it...

I hope this gets implemented, I always end up selling the stuff I post on guru in game anyways. This will save me the time of having to spam in the trade channels. I'd pay a fee to save myself an hour or two spamming my mods.

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

i have to admit, posting stuff on guru was a pain.. my usual thread took me about 1 hour..

in wow i can post the same ammount of weapons in AH in 5 mins max...

id prefer to pay that bit of cash tbh

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coridan
Dedicated items didn't come around until after the release of EotN everything was at first customized. Dedicated came about from people griping about not being able to use mini pets on other characters on the account.
I think this is a very important thing to note, here. The code for this Xunlai Market includes text about dedicated items, which was introduced about a month or so after the release of GW:EN as a response for the complaints about customized-to-the-character minipets in the HoM. This means that this code was worked on within the last 3 months.

So, if it was scrapped, it was fairly recently. This isn't something that was scrapped years ago or anything. Just throwing it out there.

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
How long ago was EOTN in alpha?

While this updated version mentions dedicated items, I don't see it as proof that this will ever be released.
That has to be recent, because even if GWEN was in alpha ages ago, then the text would be the mini has been customized. Dont forget the update which changed minipet customization to dedication.

BenjZee

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i dont know but in that thread aswell they mentioned how they changed the text files in the past couple of weeks. it used to say marketplace now its says xunlai and stuff

Jensy

Jensy

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Re: Gaile. Well, really, what CAN she say?

She can say "Yes, this is true." and then everyone jumps on her for WHEN WHEN OMG OMGOMG OMGGGGGGSPAZZZZZZZZZ for weeks until it's released.

She can say "Nope." and... then it turns out to me true, and everyone crucifies her AGAIN, the same way they did with the polar bear mini.

There may also be valid reasons why stuff cannot be revealed. Still in testing, full of bugs, might violate company NDA if you talk about stuff before it's ready...

Just wait and see, that's all we can do.

Dylananimus

Dylananimus

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Join Date: Mar 2007

The Eternal Champions

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I'm skeptical. I mean, why now? Why so close to GW2 and so far into GW? I'm more inclined to think maybe it's something they're just testing. But on that note, I hope that GW2 has a more advanced 'market place', 'auctions house', or similar than what has been seen in the dat.

At this point...who the hell knows what's what. I guess only the developers, and they're not about to start fanning the flames (Gaile included) if there's nothing but smoke and no real substance.

MarlinBackna

MarlinBackna

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Join Date: May 2007

[TAM]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
I think this is a very important thing to note, here. The code for this Xunlai Market includes text about dedicated items, which was introduced about a month or so after the release of GW:EN as a response for the complaints about customized-to-the-character minipets in the HoM. This means that this code was worked on within the last 3 months.

So, if it was scrapped, it was fairly recently. This isn't something that was scrapped years ago or anything. Just throwing it out there.
Arcane does have a good point here. Dedicated Minis were after EoTN, so it is not like this is a year old like the mini polar bear was (which btw has been found in the .dat). They need something that will be awesome to get people excited about GW again, and I think this could do the trick (along with some new, free elite area, like a new realm of a God for instance *winkwink )

I would definitely use this, and paying to post items makes sense get all of the crap out, although having a minimum price for goods put in the Marketplace would work as well. Hopefully Anet will do something about potential botters that could invade this. Maybe a good way to weed out newb sellers AND bots is to restrict access to the Marketplace by either placing in far in each game (Amnoon Oasis Droks (bots might have easy access to both tho...) for Prophecies, Kodash Bazaar for NF (perfect place for it too ), not sure about a place in Factions) or requiring Ascension or previously beating a campaign to access the Marketplace.

I'm pretty hopeful for this to happen. The min polar bear happened...what if we found it before wintersday? Exactly my point. And Gaile acted in the exact same way. Although she might not even know about it, for it could be a super-uper secret in Anet.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pansy malfoy
Re: Gaile. Well, really, what CAN she say?

She can say "Yes, this is true." and then everyone jumps on her for WHEN WHEN OMG OMGOMG OMGGGGGGSPAZZZZZZZZZ for weeks until it's released.

She can say "Nope." and... then it turns out to me true, and everyone crucifies her AGAIN, the same way they did with the polar bear mini.

There may also be valid reasons why stuff cannot be revealed. Still in testing, full of bugs, might violate company NDA if you talk about stuff before it's ready...

Just wait and see, that's all we can do.
That is why she needs to just ignore this thread for a long time. After the mini polar bear fiasco, she should just stay in some hidden corner somewhere and only post silly things like, why yes I do like your avatar.

Drop of Fear

Drop of Fear

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Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

this is outside of the "no substantial updates for guild wars cuz our team is all focused full time on gw2".
such a feature can be implemented in both games so a first poor version could very likely be rolled in guild wars to test it and to collect suggestions to make it better for guild wars 2.

i would be fine with it, as long as it works and is not exploitable for duping items who's supposed to be against this?

go go go plz make this real

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

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Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

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I hope it's real, but it's too early to tell.

Maybe someone at Anet has cancelled the project because people found out about it and posted forums

Seef II

Seef II

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Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
I hope it's real, but it's too early to tell.

Maybe someone at Anet has cancelled the project because people found out about it and posted forums
That'd be a terrible waste of man-hours, but then again, we don't know the full story behind GW Utopia either. Take anything we "dat surfers" posted with a grain of salt, y'know? Don't wanna spread false hope.