necro buff.. YAY,,
1 energy because it also has a HEALTH SAC. something that i thought should be the only cost from the beginning. not 0 energy, but its a giant step in the right direction..
mending nerf.. WTF! seriously, that +3 hp was good at keeping degen squads from being too overpowered vs a team with no RC.
SoR buff.. YAY!
all else, no complaints.
Update - Wednesday February 6
Oblivious Moose
sterbenx2
1/4 sec on Hexor's Vigor, very awesome, now it sits nice on my bar. It was useless at 2sec cast, easily interrupted.
Nerf to Heaven's Delight.. BAD! way too much of a reduction in healing. The recast time made this skill questionable but I still ran it. Now, its worthless. VERY VERY worthless.
Mystic Regen. hmm. kinda sucks that its not AS useful. But then I never ran more than two or three enchants anyway so good move on that.
as for the rest. I'll give a little blood sac a try out but I doubt I'll use it. blood Magic never really appealed to me because of the sac on a lot of the skills.
Nerf to Heaven's Delight.. BAD! way too much of a reduction in healing. The recast time made this skill questionable but I still ran it. Now, its worthless. VERY VERY worthless.
Mystic Regen. hmm. kinda sucks that its not AS useful. But then I never ran more than two or three enchants anyway so good move on that.
as for the rest. I'll give a little blood sac a try out but I doubt I'll use it. blood Magic never really appealed to me because of the sac on a lot of the skills.
Rayne Nightfyre
This update sucks. Why do they insist on continually nerfing Mesmers? Not just Clumsiness, but Ineptitude, AND Wandering Eye, AND Power Leak - skills that have pretty much been untouched and have worked fine for years!
/end rant
/end rant
Tarkin
My 2 cents
Mesmers
Clumsiness: increased casting time to 2 seconds; increased recharge time to 10 seconds; now affects adjacent foes.
I think you guys forget... fast casting and ... adjacent foes...this is a buff for pve mesmers...
Ether Feast: increased healing to 20..50 Health per Energy lost by target
Good buff nice healing skill, but damm some mesmer bosses are a pain to kill just because them have this skill...
Hex Breaker: changed skill type from stance to skill
Good buff...
Ineptitude: decreased duration to 4 seconds
dont mather... brainless pve foes and henchs... 4 seconds or 10 seconds its will trigger pvp same thing
Wandering Eye: decreased duration to 4 seconds; increased casting time to 2 seconds, increased recharge time to 10 seconds; increased damage to 10..92.
Again fast casting owns the increased casting, to dont overpower this skill recharge increase... and damage increased...
its a buff, again some pve mesmer will be a pain...
Drain Enchantment: decreased Energy cost to 5 Energy; decreased Energy gain to 8..13 Energy
buff again, great cheap healing skill, again some pve mesmer will be a great pain...
about mesmers ... if you kown how play with them its a great buff
Mesmers
Clumsiness: increased casting time to 2 seconds; increased recharge time to 10 seconds; now affects adjacent foes.
I think you guys forget... fast casting and ... adjacent foes...this is a buff for pve mesmers...
Ether Feast: increased healing to 20..50 Health per Energy lost by target
Good buff nice healing skill, but damm some mesmer bosses are a pain to kill just because them have this skill...
Hex Breaker: changed skill type from stance to skill
Good buff...
Ineptitude: decreased duration to 4 seconds
dont mather... brainless pve foes and henchs... 4 seconds or 10 seconds its will trigger pvp same thing
Wandering Eye: decreased duration to 4 seconds; increased casting time to 2 seconds, increased recharge time to 10 seconds; increased damage to 10..92.
Again fast casting owns the increased casting, to dont overpower this skill recharge increase... and damage increased...
its a buff, again some pve mesmer will be a pain...
Drain Enchantment: decreased Energy cost to 5 Energy; decreased Energy gain to 8..13 Energy
buff again, great cheap healing skill, again some pve mesmer will be a great pain...
about mesmers ... if you kown how play with them its a great buff
TimTimTimma
Wow, I wonder if necros will finally get some gvg action...
Dfx Gladiator
Wow, thnx for killing Power Leak.
Tarkin
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8. Healsig and lion's comfort. Need to try them; have a bad feeling they're still not very good, merely better than other options for someone with a 20e pool and 2pips.
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I thing its good for warriors...
Age
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Originally Posted by yesitsrob
The energy cost of OOB had nothing to do with why Boon Prots stopped being ran, it was all to do with the huge health sac, which still exists.
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It is pretty over a good update and I like the Monk,Ranger and Warrior changes maybe Warriors will now use their own self heals now.The Necro changes seem to be pretty good to maybe will see some blood Necros.
Sniper22
Hey guys, if you played necro, you wouldn't say that those 1 energy buffs are overpowered. Have you ever noticed that all those skills require some sort of health sacrifice? Spamming these skills leads to death. Most of these skills weren't worth the energy and the sac, now they made it better and worth it.
Skyy High
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Originally Posted by Rayne Nightfyre
This update sucks. Why do they insist on continually nerfing Mesmers? Not just Clumsiness, but Ineptitude, AND Wandering Eye, AND Power Leak - skills that have pretty much been untouched and have worked fine for years!
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Power Leak was unwarranted, as far as I can tell, but the rest of the skills are either "meh" or "nice"...certainly not worth the grip-fest I'm seeing here.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Dfx Gladiator
Wow, thnx for killing Power Leak.
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Blood magic buffs = wtf?
If you're going to buff BiP (which barely sees use outside of TanknSpank, anyway.) then you would expect a nerf to Ursan Blessing. (And no, i'm not speaking from a biased point of view on UB.)
Avatar of Grenth was just nerfed to being worse.(imo anyway...)
Protective was Kaolai is just...LEET!
LoD looks well worth running again.
SoR is quite sexy, too!
Painbringer
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Hey guys, if you played necro, you wouldn't say that those 1 energy buffs are overpowered. Have you ever noticed that all those skills require some sort of health sacrifice? Spamming these skills leads to death. Most of these skills weren't worth the energy and the sac, now they made it better and worth it.
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Tarkin
[skill]Vampiric Spirit[/skill] + Masochism , Enchantment Spell. For 30 seconds, you gain 1...3 Energy whenever you sacrifice Health. + [skill]Dark Aura[/skill] + [skill]Dark Pact[/skill] + [skill]Touch of Agony[/skill]
= deadly combo? 300 damage in less 1 second?
= deadly combo? 300 damage in less 1 second?
Magikarp
awful awful awful
/phailmajor @ anet.
lets fix some more skills with double sided blades!
/phailmajor @ anet.
lets fix some more skills with double sided blades!
Lady Lozza
Wow, mesmers got hit hard...
My necro will be happy though...
Actually come to think of it my mesmer is fully skilled as a necro so +sig of illusion = happy necro???
My necro will be happy though...
Actually come to think of it my mesmer is fully skilled as a necro so +sig of illusion = happy necro???
HawkofStorms
Power leak NEEDED a nerf. People who are saying otherwise haven't been playing a lot of PvP. That one skill is single handedly better then all the other e-denial skills in the game. It makes having stuff like energy burn/surge/sig of weariness worthless since you can condense it all down into one skill.
Blood magic has been bad for anything but spiking and touchers and needed something to bring it back into viability. I'm glad they are trying these 1 energy spells. It shows a.net is thinking outside the box for skill balance. Though I do worry that wallow's bite will now be a standard toucher skill.
Avatar of Grenth.... well, nobody used it after it had a nerfed duration time. The new functionality is strictly meh. It helps DPS against prot monks and targets with guardian, but only for the Dervish and not the entire team. Also, once a target is proted you should really just switch targets or remove the prot (which was the point of the old Grenth). This skill as it stands is kinda silly now. So what if you can keep wacking away at an aegiesed/guardian target? RoF/SoA/Spirit Bond will still be taking effect. It would be better to switch targets.
LoD is good. It is back to viable but no longer as overpowered as it once was.
Deep freeze buff is nice for water snarers. Also makes it more viable in PvE (where usually you just use ice spikes since stuff dies so fast).
I thought healing sig and lion's comfort were fine before. I don't think the buffs were needed.
Troll Ugent did need help. It is a very weak self heal before (and still sorta is).
Mystic regen isn't really nerfed. You still get +9 regen. This just means that now hex degen and burning will be useful against them.
I'll have to see the VoD changes myself.
Overall, 7.5 out of 10.
Blood magic has been bad for anything but spiking and touchers and needed something to bring it back into viability. I'm glad they are trying these 1 energy spells. It shows a.net is thinking outside the box for skill balance. Though I do worry that wallow's bite will now be a standard toucher skill.
Avatar of Grenth.... well, nobody used it after it had a nerfed duration time. The new functionality is strictly meh. It helps DPS against prot monks and targets with guardian, but only for the Dervish and not the entire team. Also, once a target is proted you should really just switch targets or remove the prot (which was the point of the old Grenth). This skill as it stands is kinda silly now. So what if you can keep wacking away at an aegiesed/guardian target? RoF/SoA/Spirit Bond will still be taking effect. It would be better to switch targets.
LoD is good. It is back to viable but no longer as overpowered as it once was.
Deep freeze buff is nice for water snarers. Also makes it more viable in PvE (where usually you just use ice spikes since stuff dies so fast).
I thought healing sig and lion's comfort were fine before. I don't think the buffs were needed.
Troll Ugent did need help. It is a very weak self heal before (and still sorta is).
Mystic regen isn't really nerfed. You still get +9 regen. This just means that now hex degen and burning will be useful against them.
I'll have to see the VoD changes myself.
Overall, 7.5 out of 10.
undeadgun
i was shocked after i read the update, WOW!
Jhadur
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Does this mean the Everlasting BeetleJuice Tonic is basically an automatic carpal tunn-... err max title?
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ShadowsRequiem
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Originally Posted by Tarkin
[skill]Vampiric Spirit[/skill] + Masochism , Enchantment Spell. For 30 seconds, you gain 1...3 Energy whenever you sacrifice Health. + [skill]Dark Aura[/skill] + [skill]Dark Pact[/skill] + [skill]Touch of Agony[/skill]
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Happy for the Healing sig buff.
Mystic needed the nerf its still usable in UW duos and stuff.
Mesmer with cluminess just got another CRY anti spike
Onarik Amrak
Horray for Party Animal!!!
What happened to Mesmers?
I had to refresh the wiki page because I thought someone vandaled the Necro skills...
Ahhhh! Mystic Regen cap!!!
"Corrected the crafting costs on two of the Elite Canthan Masks sold by armorer Koumei on the Divine Path."
^More than a year late that one.
What happened to Mesmers?
I had to refresh the wiki page because I thought someone vandaled the Necro skills...
Ahhhh! Mystic Regen cap!!!
"Corrected the crafting costs on two of the Elite Canthan Masks sold by armorer Koumei on the Divine Path."
^More than a year late that one.
makosi
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Power leak NEEDED a nerf. People who are saying otherwise haven't been playing a lot of PvP. That one skill is single handedly better then all the other e-denial skills in the game. It makes having stuff like energy burn/surge/sig of weariness worthless since you can condense it all down into one skill.
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Lady Lozza
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milkflopance
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[skill]Vampiric Spirit[/skill] + Masochism , Enchantment Spell. For 30 seconds, you gain 1...3 Energy whenever you sacrifice Health. + [skill]Dark Aura[/skill] + [skill]Dark Pact[/skill] + [skill]Touch of Agony[/skill]
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NoXiFy
Nobodys really mentioning Avatar of Grenth... but anyway, I find this skill has moved from.... extremely OP'ed, to worthless because of short duration, to... even worse?
Avatar of grenth is an elite... yet Guiding hands (a non-elite) does like the same thing for soooo much less. Unless they change the cold damage to dark (which would make the skill ftw ftw!!!!!) than this skill... is once again, useless.
Avatar of grenth is an elite... yet Guiding hands (a non-elite) does like the same thing for soooo much less. Unless they change the cold damage to dark (which would make the skill ftw ftw!!!!!) than this skill... is once again, useless.
Painbringer
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[skill]Vampiric Spirit[/skill] + Masochism , Enchantment Spell. For 30 seconds, you gain 1...3 Energy whenever you sacrifice Health. + [skill]Dark Aura[/skill] + [skill]Dark Pact[/skill] + [skill]Touch of Agony[/skill]
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KalleDamos
My poor freaking mesmer! that is the thrid Illusion build that anet has effectivly killed! GAH!!!! *pulls his own hair out* But yeah, nice buffs to some of the blood line. My necro is happy, I'm happy with most of the buffs, Deep Freeze pleaases my hydro mancer and I think I'll acctualy cap AoG now. But yeah, anet, good job, you keep making mesmers cry, bastards...
Tarkin
[skill]Vampiric Spirit[/skill] + Masochism , Enchantment Spell. For 30 seconds, you gain 1...3 Energy whenever you sacrifice Health. + [skill]Dark Aura[/skill] + [skill]Dark Pact[/skill] + [skill]Touch of Agony[/skill]
= deadly combo? 300 damage in less 1 second?
They create a monster ?
= deadly combo? 300 damage in less 1 second?
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And just add these for a little close up fun [skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill] and [skill]conviction[/skill]
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Lawliet Kira
another money title wtf
Ensign
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Heh, what are you on? First of all, the only skill in that list that has been "untouched for years" is Power Leak.
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Foe
THANK GOD! Song of Resto Paragons just make matches so much fun, its still not gud enough, make it block for 15 secs too. Gj taking refrain down a peg, it required some skill management. I hate mesmers too anet gj, like blockway ftw, who wants to play a class that doesnt spam skills on recharge. Thank God! builds have been way to offensive for too long now. Shew, Inept and Clums required you to manage and maximize your casts, gross, blockway is sooo much fun, all builds should rely on block/blind. Blood Magic ftw!!
PS: Dear Anet plz raze my Paras ar to 140 and spear dmg to 40-70, make weapon of warding last 1 min make power drain,leech sig, d shot 2 sec casts cuz its not fun when Aegis/guardian get int
PS: Dear Anet plz raze my Paras ar to 140 and spear dmg to 40-70, make weapon of warding last 1 min make power drain,leech sig, d shot 2 sec casts cuz its not fun when Aegis/guardian get int
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[riVen]
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THANK GOD! Song of Resto Paragons just make matches so much fun, its still not gud enough, make it block for 15 secs too. Gj taking refrain down a peg, it required some skill management. I hate mesmers too anet gj, like blockway ftw, who wants to play a class that doesnt spam skills on recharge. Thank God! builds have been way to offensive for too long now. Shew, Inept and Clums required you to manage and maximize your casts, gross, blockway is sooo much fun, all builds should rely on block/blind. Blood Magic ftw!!
PS: Dear Anet plz raze my Paras ar to 140 and spear dmg to 40-70, make weapon of warding last 1 min make power drain,leech sig, d shot 2 sec casts cuz its not fun when Aegis/guardian get int |
Wait, wait... do I sense sarcasm in your post?
Utaku
About power leak, -10 energy loss at 14 domination would have been just fine.
Well, I think I'll play something like that from now on
[skill]Glyph of Energy[/skill][skill]Gale[/skill][skill]diversion[/skill][skill]shatter enchantment[/skill][skill]drain enchantment[/skill][skill]power spike[/skill][skill]blackout[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Well, I think I'll play something like that from now on
[skill]Glyph of Energy[/skill][skill]Gale[/skill][skill]diversion[/skill][skill]shatter enchantment[/skill][skill]drain enchantment[/skill][skill]power spike[/skill][skill]blackout[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Red Sonya
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Mystic Regeneration still isn't nerfed enough. Most people aren't running more than 3 enchantments anyways using it. Cmon Anet +9 regen is still pretty high for such a fast recharge skill that you can't even keep down with disenchants. I ran into one deverisher who between Mystic Regen and Vital Boon and Vow of Silence was pratically invincible. Need to nerf these passive "can't touch me" skills/spells. Shadow Form is just as bad. Mystic Regeration should be moved to Mystisism and give the +3 advantage per 5 attribute points into it. +3 for 5, +6 for 10 and +9 for 15. Yes, that would be best for it.
Thankfully they gave more disenchants back to Chilblains this was my favorite skill before Ziggy/Izzy ruined it only allowing it to disenchant one enchantment.
Umm I wonder why they don't just take mesmers completely out of the game. Clumsiness and Ineptitude both in one fell swoop. This gets more rediculous with each update. One time they make a mesmer seem viable again and the next time they nerf it to smithereens. Just delete the class Izzy it's not worth all the hassle or headaches for all of us.
Welp they just made the TOUCH RANGER that much more powerful now with 1 energy cost to OOB and those other touch skills? lmao. I can't wait to see touch rangers after this update. It was hard enough before with their energy management, now they've just given them unlimited energy practically.
Finally they hit the monk were it counts in recharge times and healing power. One good nerf out of 10 isn't bad I guess if your Izzy. lol
Amy Awien
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It looks like they attempted to buff partywide healing, good thing.
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With [wiki]Masochism[/wiki] on, necro's now get 2~3 energy back for sacking spells??
dargon
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This is so unfair to the lesser team as it takes away practically any chance of winning during VOD with that much damage increase just because one side has more NPC's. Nope don't like this one at all and everyone who GVG's should be against this one.
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Baffneu
damn pleak got owned.. :|
N1ghtstalker
they raped ineptitude! ><
i hate it
i hate it
chowmein69
yay necro buff!!!
and another title
and another title
FoxBat
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Ehrm, to me it looks like these were nerfed, Divine Healing is to 1/4 of it's previous healing.
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Hailfall
OMG *happy with BiP* This makes bipping in Deep sooo much easier for me!
BTW, is anyone else not able to get his tournament rewards?
BTW, is anyone else not able to get his tournament rewards?