We had Wammos for a long time... now it is time for Mowwas!
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Super Igor
Yay!
We had Wammos for a long time... now it is time for Mowwas!
We had Wammos for a long time... now it is time for Mowwas!
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Nice Build Rachoth. I always looking for paraway build for my paragon you made wicked one. Have to try this build out on my paragon heros when i get them on my hero.
Sethellington
yeah i realise that i'm using my last pve slot, and that it was NM, but i spose a vanquish screenie wouldn't impress you any more would it? Tyria/Cantha/Elona in HM is 90% of the time as easy as EotN NM. Just thought i'd try it and post my build for inspiration's sake.
bono
Imbagon has always been crazy powerful and you maximized it efficiency for vanquishing purposes.
Biggest problems are that the only char that can run perma SY is paragon or d-slash warrior. Vanquishing is all about titles. Do people want to make paragons they titles char? Racway also needs to 2 accounts with multiple campaigns, and 2 pve leveled up luxon/kurvick + SS.
Sabway with r10 ursan will easily vanquish any nightfalls,faction, prophescies explorable area with any char from profession.
Biggest problems are that the only char that can run perma SY is paragon or d-slash warrior. Vanquishing is all about titles. Do people want to make paragons they titles char? Racway also needs to 2 accounts with multiple campaigns, and 2 pve leveled up luxon/kurvick + SS.
Sabway with r10 ursan will easily vanquish any nightfalls,faction, prophescies explorable area with any char from profession.
shru
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Originally Posted by bono
Imbagon has always been crazy powerful and you maximized it efficiency for vanquishing purposes.
Biggest problems are that the only char that can run perma SY is paragon or d-slash warrior. Vanquishing is all about titles. Do people want to make paragons they titles char? Racway also needs to 2 accounts with multiple campaigns, and 2 pve leveled up luxon/kurvick + SS. Alternate prof "SY spammers" have been discussed all over the thread, and I included a short list of some of the ones I'd recomend on page 13.
Still not sure about your second comment, why does Racway need two accounts?
Biggest problems are that the only char that can run perma SY is paragon or d-slash warrior. Vanquishing is all about titles. Do people want to make paragons they titles char? Racway also needs to 2 accounts with multiple campaigns, and 2 pve leveled up luxon/kurvick + SS. Alternate prof "SY spammers" have been discussed all over the thread, and I included a short list of some of the ones I'd recomend on page 13.
Still not sure about your second comment, why does Racway need two accounts?
Sethellington
The trouble is. I'm on a nec and even with +24 AL from GDA and +12 from a shield, I'm a pretty squishy front liner. I can keep SY! up permanently, but once I die, my party no longer has +100 AL and they die, then we wipe. Might try putting [Angelic Bond] on my para hero and micro it on me.
Richardt
I thought Angelic Bond wouldn't be a good option, but I tried it in Old Ascalon (using a variant of my N/Rt Orders/Healer) and it did a great job. One thing you can try is to put your Hayda upfront, and pull to her-that way she can share in the beating and take some heat off of you.
@bono-Racway doesn't require two accounts-I'm not sure where you got that idea.
@bono-Racway doesn't require two accounts-I'm not sure where you got that idea.
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by bono
Biggest problems are that the only char that can run perma SY is paragon or d-slash warrior. Vanquishing is all about titles. Do people want to make paragons they titles char?
The builds are naturally designed for the paragon so if they don't work on other professions with the same results there is a simple explaination as to why. It is possible to adapt the main player build with some of the other professions but ultimately paragons are the target audience.
Super Igor
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Originally Posted by Sethellington
Tyria/Cantha/Elona in HM is 90% of the time as easy as EotN NM.
Really? I found it to be the easyest there is.
Mr Pink57
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Originally Posted by Richardt
[build prof=n/rt box name="OotV Restorer" blood=10+1+2 soulreaping=8+1 restoration=12][order of the vampire][mark of fury][signet of lost souls][ghostmirror light][spirit light][mend body and soul][life][soothing memories][/build]
For those that are curious, this is the build I was talking about earlier. It's basically the N/Rt Restorer set up to buff physicals.
I just throw on Radiants and use Vanahk's Staff-if you need a bit more energy, you could use a major SR rune, but mines been doing great with just a 9 SR.
I actually like this better then the D/N orders
(although Mark of Fury isn't as good as Dark Fury 
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It's not overly original, but it gets the job done. I think you'd be better off with Weapon of Fury, you could just micro it to yourself vs everyone else or just let it fly around with so many physicals. At that point you can take Dark Fury along with it.
pink
For those that are curious, this is the build I was talking about earlier. It's basically the N/Rt Restorer set up to buff physicals.
I just throw on Radiants and use Vanahk's Staff-if you need a bit more energy, you could use a major SR rune, but mines been doing great with just a 9 SR.
I actually like this better then the D/N orders
(although Mark of Fury isn't as good as Dark Fury )It's not overly original, but it gets the job done. I think you'd be better off with Weapon of Fury, you could just micro it to yourself vs everyone else or just let it fly around with so many physicals. At that point you can take Dark Fury along with it.
pink
Richardt
Actually I got a better one in the works-not ready to share it, but it's been doing good so far-done some Ascalon vanqs and HM stuff in EotN.
Give me another day or two and I'll unleash it
Give me another day or two and I'll unleash it
FyrFytr998
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Originally Posted by bono
Racway also needs to 2 accounts with multiple campaigns, and 2 pve leveled up luxon/kurvick + SS.
What in the hell are you talking about? 2 Accounts? For what? This should be priceless.
NecroticChanter
One of the builds for Morgahn have "Angelic Bond". Who is this targeting?
Richardt
I just let my Angelic Bonder go on autopilot-unless I go do a pull in which case I'll micro it on myself.
Mr Pink57
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Originally Posted by NecroticChanter
One of the builds for Morgahn have "Angelic Bond". Who is this targeting?
Usually ends up on the Orders Derv.
pink
pink
bono
My bad only needs 1 account. I have spending to much time in FoW/UW/DoA with my 6 heros lately.
Saw all the paragon builds on first page and thought 4paragons heros and orders Dervish attacking out of ebon battle standard looked like pretty sweet dps.
Saw all the paragon builds on first page and thought 4paragons heros and orders Dervish attacking out of ebon battle standard looked like pretty sweet dps.
FyrFytr998
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Originally Posted by bono
My bad only needs 1 account. I have spending to much time in FoW/UW/DoA with my 6 heros lately.
Saw all the paragon builds on first page and thought 4paragons heros and orders Dervish attacking out of ebon battle standard looked like pretty sweet dps. Ahhh....I see. People were wondering what you were getting at. With 6 heros though, I think a combo of Rac and Sab would be PvE ownage times a million.
Saw all the paragon builds on first page and thought 4paragons heros and orders Dervish attacking out of ebon battle standard looked like pretty sweet dps. Ahhh....I see. People were wondering what you were getting at. With 6 heros though, I think a combo of Rac and Sab would be PvE ownage times a million.
Antithesis
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Originally Posted by FyrFytr998
With 6 heros though, I think a combo of Rac and Sab would be PvE ownage times a million.
I ran Sab + Rac for awhile with my Warrior and ended up ditching the D/N because it's too weak to be a primary healer. I tend to run 4 N/Rt's (MM, SS, 2 healers), a Mez and a Para.
FyrFytr998
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Originally Posted by Antithesis
I ran Sab + Rac for awhile with my Warrior and ended up ditching the D/N because it's too weak to be a primary healer. I tend to run 4 N/Rt's (MM, SS, 2 healers), a Mez and a Para.
Lol, I totally forgot about that 2 hench monks are usually run.
Okay ANet. Time for the 7 hero solution. Let us party hard.
Okay ANet. Time for the 7 hero solution. Let us party hard.
Richardt
Since I'm not a big fan of the D/N orders (Never had any luck with it) I've been toying with the N/Rt healer to modify it to fit in with the paragons and still add extra damage.
This is my current attempt:
[build prof=n/rt box name="Restoring Orders" blood=9+1+2 soulreaping=9+1 restoration=12][weapon of remedy][ghostmirror light][spirit light][mend body and soul][life][signet of lost souls][dark fury][order of pain][/build]
Done a couple areas in Ascalon in HM, couple dungeons, both NM and HM and does pretty good for itself.
Been toying around with the elite though-tried [spirit light weapon] which my hero never used. Tried [preservation] tonight-that did okay, but felt a little random in it's healing. You can also knock SR down 1 and add it to Blood for extra damage and should still be good on energy.
So far it feels a lot more stable than the OotV Restorer I posted earlier.
This is my current attempt:
[build prof=n/rt box name="Restoring Orders" blood=9+1+2 soulreaping=9+1 restoration=12][weapon of remedy][ghostmirror light][spirit light][mend body and soul][life][signet of lost souls][dark fury][order of pain][/build]
Done a couple areas in Ascalon in HM, couple dungeons, both NM and HM and does pretty good for itself.
Been toying around with the elite though-tried [spirit light weapon] which my hero never used. Tried [preservation] tonight-that did okay, but felt a little random in it's healing. You can also knock SR down 1 and add it to Blood for extra damage and should still be good on energy.
So far it feels a lot more stable than the OotV Restorer I posted earlier.
Bront
I tried something like that in another thread, and got shot down, mostly because the orders and DF need to be spammed readily. I've yet to try any of them in actual play though.
As for Sabs+Racs, bring a monk friend with Sabs, and take Racs, and you're good
I have found that Barbs and Mark of Pain work well with paragons though. (not on them though)
As for Sabs+Racs, bring a monk friend with Sabs, and take Racs, and you're good
I have found that Barbs and Mark of Pain work well with paragons though. (not on them though)
Mr Pink57
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Originally Posted by Richardt
Since I'm not a big fan of the D/N orders (Never had any luck with it) I've been toying with the N/Rt healer to modify it to fit in with the paragons and still add extra damage.
This is my current attempt:
[build prof=n/rt box name="Restoring Orders" blood=9+1+2 soulreaping=9+1 restoration=12][weapon of remedy][ghostmirror light][spirit light][mend body and soul][life][signet of lost souls][dark fury][order of pain][/build]
Done a couple areas in Ascalon in HM, couple dungeons, both NM and HM and does pretty good for itself.
Been toying around with the elite though-tried [spirit light weapon] which my hero never used. Tried [preservation] tonight-that did okay, but felt a little random in it's healing. You can also knock SR down 1 and add it to Blood for extra damage and should still be good on energy.
So far it feels a lot more stable than the OotV Restorer I posted earlier. I'd take masochism over SoLS since you will be sac'ing from your two enchants.
Problem with builds like this is:
1. Lower AL then derv with windwalkers (up to 90AL base)
2. I find they try to heal after every sac which reduces the spam of OoP and DF.
With the derv they basically set Zeal and go to work and occasionally cast DTouch. This character with Windwalkers and max enchants becomes the highest AL person on the team.
EDIt: Might be better to go Channeling and make the character full offense. Putting out things like Splinter, AR, and Nightmare weapon to really help a full physical team.
pink
This is my current attempt:
[build prof=n/rt box name="Restoring Orders" blood=9+1+2 soulreaping=9+1 restoration=12][weapon of remedy][ghostmirror light][spirit light][mend body and soul][life][signet of lost souls][dark fury][order of pain][/build]
Done a couple areas in Ascalon in HM, couple dungeons, both NM and HM and does pretty good for itself.
Been toying around with the elite though-tried [spirit light weapon] which my hero never used. Tried [preservation] tonight-that did okay, but felt a little random in it's healing. You can also knock SR down 1 and add it to Blood for extra damage and should still be good on energy.
So far it feels a lot more stable than the OotV Restorer I posted earlier. I'd take masochism over SoLS since you will be sac'ing from your two enchants.
Problem with builds like this is:
1. Lower AL then derv with windwalkers (up to 90AL base)
2. I find they try to heal after every sac which reduces the spam of OoP and DF.
With the derv they basically set Zeal and go to work and occasionally cast DTouch. This character with Windwalkers and max enchants becomes the highest AL person on the team.
EDIt: Might be better to go Channeling and make the character full offense. Putting out things like Splinter, AR, and Nightmare weapon to really help a full physical team.
pink
Racthoh
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Might be better to go Channeling and make the character full offense. Putting out things like Splinter, AR, and Nightmare weapon to really help a full physical team.
I use this when I Urgoz: [Splinter Support;OAhkQoGbYIqEGjhwkwcwWQV1W4FD] Minor Blood on the hat and pop a conset naturally.
Madeentje
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
I use this when I Urgoz:
[Splinter Support;OAhkQoGbYIqEGjhwkwcwWQV1W4FD] Minor Blood on the hat and pop a conset naturally. Maybe put Well of the profane in there, since that character is not really used as a healing character anyway, and the enchantment stripping is great vs evil raptors or just any enchantment blocking... EDIT : Forgot Profane was in Death magic, though you don't need a high investment for it to be useful.
Richardt
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Originally Posted by Mr Pink57
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Problem with builds like this is:
1. Lower AL then derv with windwalkers (up to 90AL base)
Basically I counter this by keeping her flagged behind the paras, but still in range for the shouts. And once SY! goes up, the difference between 190 armor and a 160 armor isn't much.Quote:
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2. I find they try to heal after every sac which reduces the spam of OoP and DF. Actually my necro hero does pretty good keeping everything up. One of the reasons I'm experimenting with Preservation is that it's the same amount of healing as some of the Restoration skills, and the necro doesn't have to cast them-just drop the spirit and go. Quote:
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