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ty3c

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

25 Feb 2008 at 04:54 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanatic 's faith

It's a fact that this f2p game has a better economy then guildwars ATM.

I've been wonering how this comes, is it because of customizing armor?
I think theres really something going wrong with GW economy, share your toughts about this.
Sorry for my bad grammar.

NO, not anymore, runescape has capped rares and limited the GP paying, so the rares are crashing and ive already lost over 40 million...........

GW is ALOT better, at least when they put a limit of 100k we still have ectos

Dylananimus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Eternal Champions

W/Mo

25 Feb 2008 at 05:12 - 122

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Originally Posted by Tiny Killer

If the economy is so bad, I wonder why I never run out of money. I spend what I have rather freely and there always seems to be more of it available. If having the money to always get what I need is the result of a poor economy, I am in full favor of a poor economy.

Me too

This 'bad economy' keeps me in nice fancy armor quite effectively, thankyouverymuch

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

25 Feb 2008 at 05:16 - 123

Both Runescape and WoW have skills (professions) for make things and sell it: Crafting, Mining, Fishing, whatever ... both are very deep in that part, people should make things, not just NPCs selling everything. Lineage II too, it have crafted things, recipes, soul something (dont remember), etc., NOT availabe in ANY store in game, no NPC sell that, that's the trick.

In GW the only you need is Gold, and go and buy everything in NPCs with everything always available there, like black dyes, ectos, blah, blah ... no one craft that things in GW, there are no auction/trade house because there are nothing to sell, greens are nothing and as I said, materials are sold in NPCs, and if this is not enough, expensive things like FoW armor and Chaos gloves are 100% the same as 1k armors, no real bonus at all.

GW is good, really good, but in this part, economy, buying, selling, is very simplistic and casual.

ArenaNet if you are reading this (you should), in GW2, add Armors, Weapons, NOT available in NPCs at all, not even available as drops, that at the same time needs materials NOT available in NPCs at all neither, only a PLAYER can make it and sell it, via Auction/Trade House or just making a personal store (sitting) like Lineage II and buy/sell EXCLUSIVE things.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

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25 Feb 2008 at 05:22 - 124

RS is crap on a stick. Even if its economy is better then GW(which I doubt), its still crap on a stick and you couldn't pay me enough to touch it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanatic 's faith

Weapons should become rarer, Money should become easilyer made.

What exactly does this accomplish? Decrease the supply while devauling the currency? That means pretty soon you'll have to pay 100k + xectos just to get a non-max white.

*Off-topic 15 hours and 7 pages later, and not a single cat pic. Thats kind of a record no?

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

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25 Feb 2008 at 05:30 - 125

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberNigma

EDIT: In fact, you can download America's Army without payment.

Do you pay taxes?

Musei Karasu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Mo/

25 Feb 2008 at 05:38 - 126

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuuda

I find it pathetic how people judge the game on it's economy so much. Does it really matter that much? (well yes if your one of them "I like to have moar monay than evey1 else" types.)

A good economy is a sign of a good game. If the economy crashes because there are no new players moving up to take the spot of the old players who are leaving then the game is not drawing enough new players therefore dieing. So yes, it does matter.

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

25 Feb 2008 at 05:39 - 127

Quote:

Originally Posted by {IceFire}

Do you pay taxes?

America's Army is a completely free game. No payment whatsoever.

Nemesis of God

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Finland

Azura Empire [AE]

Mo/E

25 Feb 2008 at 05:44 - 128

...economy, economy, economy... *sigh*
NOTHING wrong at this second. Armbrace's price is dropping, meaning normal people can afford it. And I'm meaning by normal people these players, who play around 1-2 hours/day. And when someone cry that he/she can't afford Obsidian (FoW) armor...CRY MORE! Obsidian armors are most expensive thing in game, after mini-pets, what ones are only about 30-100/each.
Obsidian armour are for so said Elite, who aren't n00bs like these whiners.
If everyone could buy Obsidian armour, no one would buy it anymore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanatic 's faith
WRONG. The gw economy is like this. 0.01% (or less) can affort fow/... due to early start of playing/now powertrading because they have much mony.
some 50% has less then 50plat most of the time the other people can get much mony, but still won't be able to get anywhere near the 0.01% wich have stacks of ectos/armbraces/... Thats wrong.

0,01%...have you ever even played this game? I'm more than sure that over 30% of players (not characters) have 15k armors, maybe FoW too.

Due too early start...another big LOL. In Runescape (which is crap), people who started early gained items which cost hundred millions(Santa's hat, Party hat). So nothing wrong there, almost all games give at start to first players some extras.

And last LOL, stack of armbrace and stack of ectos...are they required for something? NO! Those who have stacks of armbraces are either hard-core players, or very lucky.

I repeat again. If all people would be rich, no one would be in.Paradox.
Stop crying.

Record?

Velise_Snowtorm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Forever Knights

25 Feb 2008 at 05:44 - 129

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiny Killer

If the economy is so bad, I wonder why I never run out of money. I spend what I have rather freely and there always seems to be more of it available. If having the money to always get what I need is the result of a poor economy, I am in full favor of a poor economy.

I have to second this as well. I don't even think twice about making impulse buys when passing through Kamadan, and yet I still have more money than I'll ever use.

Most likely though, in all honesty, is because at this point in the game I have just about everything I want and need. The trinkets I buy now are just fun toys to supplement what I already have.

MoriaOrc

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

25 Feb 2008 at 05:44 - 130

Quote:

Originally Posted by bam23

Quote:

Originally Posted by {IceFire}

Do you pay taxes?

America's Army is a completely free game. No payment whatsoever.

And yet somehow the developers still get paid... I wonder where that money comes from?

bathazard

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

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25 Feb 2008 at 05:48 - 131

i think inscriptions was the downfall of the econemy. I hated them since they came out. i remember getting a req9 hand axe thats was 15^50 for the first time after farming sorrow's for ages and ages since i new they dropped there. then along cam inscriptions and bye bye value on my now 'Crap' weapon. weapons that a farmed in prophecies are worthless compared to the factions and nightfall weapons. And don't let me get started on Gwen.

Well i am, GweN affically stuffed us up big time mainly through Ursan. Though all these great amours' came out and now runes and items' go down to a rediculous price!

I personally am annoyed at the market ecomeny and am going as low as using greens after 3yrs of play ;( . i was never a 'Rich' player though i did get the rare drop, drop now and then.

Farming has also been stuffed up. ok there a lots of people who still farm, i might even get my monk another set of 55 amour. But what is the point unless u go ursanway what is noobish to me, and if you dicide to do any other form of farm you get no drops?

but why do we still argue about this? why is the econemy failing? i think it is because people are getting bored, bored of guildwars. how many people want to do the same mission's again and again?

See before some of the newer versions came out guildwars was a fun new game but now people who have been playing for awhile are only left with PvP to get some originality. Personally i don't HA im a hybrid player i don't do hardcore PvE or PvP though i like a little of both. And im not really getting the fufullment of Guildwars that i used to, its become another game.

Req7. lets talk about these. the only req7 ever got was a blue sephis axe(if that how you spell it) that was max damage +3 amour or something like that. I was in love with this weapon, but sold it for 75k or something rediculous, and now it would be worth less? why? because mainly inscriptions, this is how i will end this 'Reply' Inscriptions are a pain in the econemys' butt, they stuffed it up in my mind dissagree or agree? It was inscriptions to me.

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

25 Feb 2008 at 05:49 - 132

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoriaOrc

And yet somehow the developers still get paid... I wonder where that money comes from?

I wouldn't know, but I never had to pay a cent.

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

25 Feb 2008 at 05:55 - 133

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musei Karasu

A good economy is a sign of a good game. If the economy crashes because there are no new players moving up to take the spot of the old players who are leaving then the game is not drawing enough new players therefore dieing. So yes, it does matter.

A good economy is a sign of a good game THAT NEEDS ECONOMY.

GW's gameplay NEVER EVER relies on the in-game economy. If GW's gameplay is based on economy like it is in WoW, the game would've died in 2005 due to lack of good trading system.

phoo slaya

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

United Clans of Perfect Chaos

R/N

25 Feb 2008 at 05:56 - 134

the rs and gw economies are completely different. guild wars just has a much simpler economy, which means really really simple. and no, the grand exchange in rs actually made the economy a lot worse in my opinion, i dont play anymore, but i did check out the ge when it came out, convenient, but bad.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

25 Feb 2008 at 06:26 - 135

I enjoyed GW's economy when Fellblades, Stormbows, Mursaat Bows, Magmas Shields, Zodiac weapons, and Sephis Axes were the stuff to have.

Also, I am going here, but inscriptions seriously devalued item drops.

I can say with a great degree of certainty that +5e/15^50 Voltaic Spears would be immeasurably more valuable if they were auto-uninscribable.

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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25 Feb 2008 at 06:49 - 136

While all this hate to inscribable items is understandable (instead of having to be lucky with req AND mod,) they need to exists to allow people access to well modded items.

Besides, it is GWs version of crafting: get skin, get mods, mod it up.

Maybe rare stuff should be uninscribable with common stuff inscribable. That would help a bit.

If you want to nitpick errors in itemization, it were greens which killed most of demand for mods and perfect golds. Hell, greens killed market for each other:

* Droknar's Maul
* Durgon's Maul
* Eldritch Maul
* Forgotten Hammer
* Havok's Maul
* Jormungand's Thunder
* Kanaxai's Mallet
* Vera

They all have same stats, they all offer best stats. Really, why would anyone ever buy gold item to mod and use?

Greens are blessing and curse here: Easy access to stats, but maybe too easy. Somehow i liked quirky greens of Sorrows furnace with one odd mod that made you go out and look for gold item to replace it but which didn't really hurt their usability or tradeability.

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

25 Feb 2008 at 07:07 - 137

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cacheelma

A good economy is a sign of a good game THAT NEEDS ECONOMY.

GW's gameplay NEVER EVER relies on the in-game economy. If GW's gameplay is based on economy like it is in WoW, the game would've died in 2005 due to lack of good trading system.

That was the very first idea of GW as a casual game, but it turned into a hardcore one with time, I mean some people play this game thousands of hours, that is not "casual"; this game needs an economy today, not in 2005. ArenaNet already know this, so GW2 will be some type of "World of Guild Wars" or something, that isn't bad anyway, specially if they continue with the philosophy of fast jump into PvP with top level character, and somethings like that making the game casual and hardcore at the same time.

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

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25 Feb 2008 at 07:08 - 138

im just ur typical poor gw player

the economy doesnt affect me one bit cuz i play for fun.

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

25 Feb 2008 at 07:38 - 139

Quote:

Originally Posted by maraxusofk

im just ur typical poor gw player

the economy doesnt affect me one bit cuz i play for fun.

I feel sorry for you. My heroes won't even touch those stuff. They're allergic to cheap items you see.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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25 Feb 2008 at 09:01 - 140

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

I enjoyed GW's economy when Fellblades, Stormbows, Mursaat Bows, Magmas Shields, Zodiac weapons, and Sephis Axes were the stuff to have.

Also, I am going here, but inscriptions seriously devalued item drops.

I can say with a great degree of certainty that +5e/15^50 Voltaic Spears would be immeasurably more valuable if they were auto-uninscribable.

I agree with that one, minus the silly font. Give me 06 before Factions and Sup Absorption rune nerf back. I was rakin in the money then because weapons and mods were worth something! Oh well.

Inscribable items lets me get an item I want right away, so I suppose that's good but yeah certainly borked people who want to make money w/o working hard.

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

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25 Feb 2008 at 09:21 - 141

Inscription and Green hate ftw.

Inscriptions were a fantastic addition to GW . You could completely design a perfect weapon for your build for very little cash. I have dozens of bows on my ranger built from gold/blue/purple items which are perfect for each and every build I want to run.

The green devaluation is fantastic , I can usually get a perfect stated item for virtually nothing. For myself I will take any green that has the perfect stats and a skin I like , for hero's perfect stats will do.

As for "Fellblades, Stormbows, Mursaat Bows, Magmas Shields, Zodiac weapons, and Sephis Axes being the stuff to have" the stuff to have for me was always the skins I liked . Other people perception of good had no bearing on my choice of weapon skins. I would rather have "cheap" greens than be a sheep tbh

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

25 Feb 2008 at 10:07 - 142

Quote:

Originally Posted by bam23

I wouldn't know, but I never had to pay a cent.

Which is why he asked if you pay taxes. The game was made/paid for by the US military and they get that money from taxes. So all tax payers in the US contributed to this in that sense.

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

25 Feb 2008 at 10:38 - 143

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn

Which is why he asked if you pay taxes. The game was made/paid for by the US military and they get that money from taxes. So all tax payers in the US contributed to this in that sense.

Glad I live in the UK where the government spends my taxes on more worth while things.

Oh wait, no they have no concept of how to run a country.

The GW economy is > UK's

Synles Chyld

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Ascalon

Krimzon Knightz [KRIM]

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25 Feb 2008 at 10:47 - 144

well i can honestly say before lootscaling i was able to make 30-100k a day just sittin in town an sellin my rares and mods.

now thats hard as heck to accomplish cuzz noone has the money they used to have.

get rid of that lootscaling shit and just continue banning bots the way ur doing and GW will rock again, there is no reason to punish us average ppl for for chinas bot issues

atm i have 270k, the most ive ever had was 830k and i use most of this money on my fiance not myself. if im ever to get my HoM decked out then GW needs to do somethin bout its lootscaling cuzz im not ebaying my gold damit

Syn

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

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25 Feb 2008 at 11:24 - 145

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synles Chyld

atm i have 270k, the most ive ever had was 830k and i use most of this money on my fiance not myself. if im ever to get my HoM decked out then GW needs to do somethin bout its lootscaling cuzz im not ebaying my gold damit

Syn

lol you think you have it bad? the most lump cash i have ever had was 100k!!!
i've spent over 200k just on armour for my characters (only 1 set of elite btw), and another 90-100k on weapons. Then loot scaling came along and i just got back to 85k, took me 3 weeks!

flyinhigh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

meh

wtfpwned

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25 Feb 2008 at 16:39 - 146

currently in bank 870k on mine, and 1.5 mil on my wifes account (6 storage chars) i made all that in like the last 4 months, here you go you want easy cash, do four full ursan runs through DOA, that equals 150k (depending on ecto price) and it takes you a TOTAL of 9 hours. 150k in 9 hours of play, OMFG that is easy. how is that broken?, or better yet open all the hidden treasures in the game thats like on average 50k plus golds. or here you go, 55 farm the undead in GOK, 2k in 7 minutes plus 100 dust and 200 bones, (average of course) thats like 7k in 7 minutes. or do you whiners just want a "Press to get 100k" button.

Dylananimus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Eternal Champions

W/Mo

25 Feb 2008 at 17:08 - 147

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex the Great

lol you think you have it bad? the most lump cash i have ever had was 100k!!!
i've spent over 200k just on armour for my characters (only 1 set of elite btw), and another 90-100k on weapons. Then loot scaling came along and i just got back to 85k, took me 3 weeks!

You need some new farming spots

fanatic 's faith

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Guild Wars

Currently retired from [Cape]

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25 Feb 2008 at 18:47 - 148

To be honest, im tired of GW, not only the economy, but the 3k hours i wasted in the last 2 years don't make me feel good at all. I'm sort of quitting gw, this being one of the many reasons, going to find something new to do... like i'd really like to learn drawing manga etc. Sorry for not responding much. Tbh... idc anymore. GW ruinned my life, too bad im so easily addicted to something.

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

25 Feb 2008 at 19:56 - 149

Without comparing to any other MMO, it is a safe conclusion to say that the GW economy is in the worst shape it's ever been, but that's expected. the game has almost been out for 3 years. Like everythig else, GW is not ageless.

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

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25 Feb 2008 at 21:09 - 150

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanatic 's faith

GW ruinned my life, too bad im so easily addicted to something.

Feel sorry for you. I think I've rarely been disappointed by GW because I didn't set my expectation too high (I think it's critical if you want to appreciate life, and GW's economy) and had no addiction.

Take a break, 2 or 3 months without playing, then come back to the game.

GL with life.

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

25 Feb 2008 at 21:15 - 151

Economy? I thought I was playing a game.

Monopoly has a great economy

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

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25 Feb 2008 at 21:57 - 152

The economy before loot scaling was crap. This was partial caused by merchants in the European and American districts not being synced and also because of the rare material trade reset. Because of this and bots every thing was inflated.

Now that loot scaling has been introduced, the economy is getting fixed, things aren't extremely inflated anymore. As others have mentioned pretty much everyone on Guru is richer than the average GW player. And now that the economy is finally getting better everyone here is complaining because they can't make their big bucks and others can have the nice stuff they have.

Face it, the current economy in GW is not bad, it's finally good now. If you can't accept that because others can finally get what you have, than thats your problem.

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

25 Feb 2008 at 22:05 - 153

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terraban

Huh?

You play a game to have fun, that is why you buy it.
You do not buy a game to do tedious work that you do not like.

Changing a game into work is stupid. Almost as bad as your analogies. Seriously dude, they are BAD.

its funny to see someone think that when they buy a game, they should get the best weapon, best armor, best skills, without even trying. this game has minimal "grind", and NONE of the so-called grind is even needed. its not my fault you can't understand elementary analogies...

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

25 Feb 2008 at 22:13 - 154

Quote:

Originally Posted by {IceFire}

Do you pay taxes?

Actually, yes I do.. In fact, my taxes, plus some of yours pay my salary :-) I work in an air conditioned room with computers nowhere near as hard (the work comes easy to people with the knack for it) as when I worked outdoors in prior jobs..people are rewarded more for working smart than just working hard. So, since my salary is paid ultimately through taxes, AND since I make much much more than the taxes I pay (obviously), I in essence don't pay for America's Army, assuming my taxes go back into my paycheck.. :-)

I used to be in the military as well and paid part of my own salary through taxes.

so.. thank you for America's Army...

besides there's a difference between direct payment and indirect payment that you never see in the first place.

Zeff Nut

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

Canada

Guild Of The Blue Goblin

W/N

25 Feb 2008 at 22:23 - 155

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terraban

How a game could require less skill than GW is beyond me.

You've obviously never played Pong

Angelic Upstart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

South Coast UK

[SBS] [RETIRED]

W/E

25 Feb 2008 at 22:44 - 156

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeniM

Glad I live in the UK where the government spends my taxes on more worth while things.

Oh wait, no they have no concept of how to run a country.

The GW economy is > UK's

LMAO that is so true.....

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

26 Feb 2008 at 05:04 - 157

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeff Nut

You've obviously never played Pong

Pong requires infinitely more skill than Guild Wars.

Actually, I would even go as far as saying Pong requires more skill than a lot of games...

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

26 Feb 2008 at 05:07 - 158

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magikarp

its funny to see someone think that when they buy a game, they should get the best weapon, best armor, best skills, without even trying. this game has minimal "grind", and NONE of the so-called grind is even needed. its not my fault you can't understand elementary analogies...

Elementary analogies?

A football player training to be better has nothing to do with what I am talking about.

A football player trains to be better, so he makes more money, that IS HIS JOB. Please explain how his JOB is the same as a GAME that you buy to play for fun.

What would be a better analogy is this:

You buy tickets to a football game, but stand outside of the stadium and hand out free hotdogs to everyone who passes by. What do you get out of this? Someone says "Nice outfit" when they are leaving the game.

That my friend, is Guild Wars.

As for your stealing a car analogy, that is just so wtf I have nothing to say about it. What does stealing a car have to do with working in something that you bought for fun?

I'm not saying I want all the best stuff handed to me when I start playing the game, but telling people to "work" for it is stupid. People don't buy games to "work", people buy games for fun.

Honestly though, I don't see how that would hurt you? If a new player started right this moment, and got FoW armor and Tormented stuff, how would that hurt you? Would it make your e-peen go limp? I just don't see what you get out of other people "working" for it. I don't see how it has any impact on your game at all.

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

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26 Feb 2008 at 06:15 - 159

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terraban

Elementary analogies?

A football player training to be better has nothing to do with what I am talking about.

A football player trains to be better, so he makes more money, that IS HIS JOB. Please explain how his JOB is the same as a GAME that you buy to play for fun.

What would be a better analogy is this:

You buy tickets to a football game, but stand outside of the stadium and hand out free hotdogs to everyone who passes by. What do you get out of this? Someone says "Nice outfit" when they are leaving the game.

That my friend, is Guild Wars.

As for your stealing a car analogy, that is just so wtf I have nothing to say about it. What does stealing a car have to do with working in something that you bought for fun?

I'm not saying I want all the best stuff handed to me when I start playing the game, but telling people to "work" for it is stupid. People don't buy games to "work", people buy games for fun.

Honestly though, I don't see how that would hurt you? If a new player started right this moment, and got FoW armor and Tormented stuff, how would that hurt you? Would it make your e-peen go limp? I just don't see what you get out of other people "working" for it. I don't see how it has any impact on your game at all.

well in that case plz allow me to ask, if a new player DID start out the game wit fow armor and tormented weapons, wut would be the purpose of playing this game if there was no goal to work for? the story mode (cuz u know gw has epic nobel laureate writing). every game has SOME sort of end game goal in order to make the game last longer, be it an mmo or a singe player. the only games that dont are usually purely multiplayer or competitve although some can say that becoming high on the ladder is a goal unto itself. yes some may play games merely to have fun, but those gamers typically do not stay in a game long enough to care about the end game rewards (casual gamers) to actually try to get it. even if u gave them those items, they would be indifferent to them almost as soon as they recieved them.

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

26 Feb 2008 at 06:31 - 160

Quote:

Originally Posted by maraxusofk

well in that case plz allow me to ask, if a new player DID start out the game wit fow armor and tormented weapons, wut would be the purpose of playing this game if there was no goal to work for? the story mode (cuz u know gw has epic nobel laureate writing). every game has SOME sort of end game goal in order to make the game last longer, be it an mmo or a singe player. the only games that dont are usually purely multiplayer or competitve although some can say that becoming high on the ladder is a goal unto itself. yes some may play games merely to have fun, but those gamers typically do not stay in a game long enough to care about the end game rewards (casual gamers) to actually try to get it. even if u gave them those items, they would be indifferent to them almost as soon as they recieved them.

What would be the purpose of playing this game? The gameplay of course, which is actually quite lacking in most of the game. You can somewhat cover up the lack of gameplay by playing all 10 different professions, through all the campaigns, but its all the same monotonous gameplay.

My question is...what is the purpose of "working" in a video game? So you can buy a fancy armor that nobody gives a damn about? Hell, work some overtime at an actual job, and get something that is actually worth your labor. "Working", as in doing something tedious and repetitive, in a video game is completely destroying what a video game is made for. A video game is made for entertainment. I don't know about you, but where I come from, something tedious and repetitive is NOT entertainment. Sure, goals are nice, but virtual material goals are not. Fun gameplay is what matters, not how many months of "work" it takes to get the +1337 E-Peen armor.

If you have to "work" for long hours in a video game, then isn't something wrong?

Goals like..."I want to be able to finish the game within a day" are good goals. Goals that require actual gameplay to achieve are fantastic.

Goals like..."I want to have super leet +5 e-peen armor" are bad goals. It requires very little actual gameplay but lots and lots of "work". This is when a game becomes a Work Simulator. If you are in that much need of an ego boost, get a second job and buy a fancy car. It goes a lot further for the ego than a set of FoW armor.

Edit: Actually, not sure about that last sentence...a lot of people with FoW armor think they were sent by "God" himself and that all the inferior ones should bow to them.