Which GW1 profession is for the chop for GW2?

Cutting the Assassin, Dervish, Paragon, and Ritualist for GW2 would make A LOT of people happy.

It would also piss off a lot of people.

Game balance far outweighs peoples feelings imo

They do this I may not buy it for sure but who knows if there won't be entirely new professions.I am undecided if I am getting GW2.

I'd wave goodbye to Dervishes and Paragons.

I think it will come down to the original six,I just can't imagine a norn assasin(lol),a charr dervish or a asura paragon.

Assassins plz, i've grown to hate those hunched miscreants with a passion.
Paragons because theyre utterly boring. Dervishes because they're wammos with way too much energy.

Leave the core classes in -- if they got rid of Mesmers, I'd be pretty mad.

Remove Paragons and Dervishes. I never got into either class... They just weren't interesting to me.

Keep Assassins -- I've never played one for any length of time, but I can see how they could fit into the game if done right. Keep Ritualists because... well, they have cool armor, and I like mine

Ritualists - gay gimmick prof based on a few overpowered skills
Paragons - Broken, boring, lame shit like motygons
Assassins - I guess they could be ok if they removed the chained skills and
shadowsteps....wait, just remove the whole class tbh

paragons will take the hit for sure

assassins are here to stay more like stealth will be added to make them more relevant

ritualist might also take the hit

memsers is a strong profession and will stay

All 4 of the new professions can go out for me.

Nice post. Lets say that youve convinced me, mostly
I still think that necromancers are, in charracter, completly different from ritualists. I just feel sick when i play a necro, i dont enjoy it, while as rits are my favorite class.

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As for the six core proffesions remaining and the others being scrapped idea, im against it. Many of us play the 4 extra proffesions, and many of us have a favorite among them. Removing them would be removing a major segment of the game, and a slap in the face to many current players.

Merging them into the core proffesions is something i could support, but i would hate to see them weakened, as for ballance sake, hybrids are usually weakened, so if say assasins would be merged with rangers, neither of them would be as efficient as they are now.

there must be another way, but what... dunno :|

I don't get all the hate for Ritualists here. They are a fantastic class with some unique and interesting concepts. Item Spells, Weapon Spells, and Spirits make them very unique among MMO class options.

I still say the Monk needs to go since people are so hell bent on balance over fun.

If they do chop some professions, I hope they are not chopped entirely but rather merged into core professions. I then hope that those core professions that absorb new professions get new names. So say Necro ate Rit, both titles should disappear and a new name should be made for the new class. Same for Mesmer/Assassin, Assassin/Dervish, Warrior/Dervish, Warrior/Paragon, Ranger/Paragon, Ranger/Ritualist . . . you get the idea. 2 professions become 1 ---> new name for new profession.

Another idea would be to make professions partly or completely race-specific. If they make strong race-specific attributes and skills that will probably happen anyway, at least in PvP.

Interesting thread. I had to post. Knowing ArenaNet, I think they will have some different professions than what we have in GW1. I imagine some will remain the same, but I think that just assuming that they are just going to drop one is a mistake.

They'll keep the cores, then re-introduce the other four in GW2 xp1...xp2...etc

assassin and warrior will be merge into one - dual wielding

ritualist and monk will merge

problem solved lol

well by definition of "getting chopped," do you get rid of the profession permanently?

I believe it might be one of th four professions that was introduced in Factions and Nightfall, as the places like Cantha and Elona will not be accessible in GW2 due to Cantha ended up being a Hitleresque regime and Elona being screwed over by Palawa Joko.

But if one of the professions is going to be "chopped off," I'll say the paragon because of the difficulty of playing them and not a lot of incentive of play as one (like the lack of farming build).

And has anyone notice this thread is 3 months old?

I just hope they keep the core professions. The rest can go imho simply because they are just a poor man's versions of what could already be achieved with the core.

What an ignorant post, you acknowledge that if they got rid of YOUR favorite class you'd be mad, but because you couldnt get into derv or para, NOBODY should have them in GW2.


Wtf? The post before that you were saying it would make people HAPPY to cut the professions. Now because you were told it would piss people off too, you go to a different excuse. Seriously I think ppl just want to cut the professions because of the power creep. FYI ITS A NEW GAME. All classes can remain, because now anet can fully balance all of them at once to have greater synergy than before.

Personally I love my dervish and my whole HoM is about him. If Dervish or any revision of them does not exist in GW2, I see no reason for me to buy it. This goes for sin/rit/para too, because many ppl's favorite chars are those classes and EVERYBODY should be able to play some variation of their fav gw1 class in gw2.

They can get rid of sin/rit/derv/para, personally I don't care anymore. It just means Ill have $50 more in my pocket.

EDIT: On a side note... there MUST be some version of sin/para/derv in GW2, or how else would you explain scythes/spears/daggers in the HoM? Oh yes little asura, these are the daggers of a long dead class, but sorry you can't learn those ways....

Keep Paragons and Dervishes. -- if they got removed, I'd be pretty mad.

Remove mesmers. i never got into them, therefore, they are bad.

Actually, I bet that Mesmers are safe and will be in GW2. (Uhm - Gwen?)

Plus, it was one of the unique character classes to GW.

Likely, it will be the 6 "core" professions, reworked. Hopefully, reworked so that each class is distinct, offering advantages and disadvantages that can be offset by teaming with another profession.

To that end, it may prove to be a good thing to no longer allow a secondary profession - or make it so that the secondary is clearly weaker than a primary. (Not just "no primary attributes" option since sometimes, often, the primary attribute - to put it bluntly - sucks.)

Magical interrupts should be the province of the Mesmer. (I know - flame me from all the Rangers out there!) Disease and lowering health (degen) the province of the Necromancer. Melee for warriors; healing for Monks; AoE and spike damage Elementalists; traps and ranged damage for Rangers; etc. There are problem cross-overs, of course, such as Hexes. Makes sense for both Mesmers and Necroes to have skills in that area. But, a Necro shouldn't have any interrupts, and a Mesmer shouldn't have a skill like Epidemic. (So, I guess inflicting conditions would be a Necro domain. But, then, Blindness makes sense for a Mesmer to be able to inflict, so... oh, dang!) And removing hexes? Makes sense for Monks and Mesmers, so - d-oh again!

I think it would be good to make it so that you really, really want a Monk on your team, but also see the advantages of having a tank along, as well as someone to, perhaps, set traps, rather than be able to do it all oneself (as we currently can - what with EotN non-class specific skills.) Know you're going to want to counter some heavy magic? Bring a Mesmer!

Like being limited to only 8 skills, make it so that composing a team creates some hard choices, too. But, that requires that each profession offer something unique and valuable to the team. Otherwise, we end up with what we have now - Mesmers sitting in towns and outposts, unless they have Ursan r10.

The whole attribute/skill system will probably be redone. If GW:EN is a "test" for GW2, however, I have a bad feeling about the way it will turn out. Maybe they're getting rid of the attributes concept altogether and it will all be rank/grind?

I think there's a solid chance that all classes will be reworked and we'll end up with new classes rather than replicating certain older ones. Maybe Warriors would take on spears, scythes, and shouts and take on a leader role, maybe rangers will adopt dual wielding daggers (DnD anyone?), Necros may have spirits. The list goes on!

As much as I love my Assassin, I'd say a complete re-shuffle of classes might be the best thing instead of just cutting out some of our professions.

For example, there's always the Ranger/Assassin merger into Rogue, where the character could either specialize in Shadow or Dark arts or into Wilderness survival. Ritualists and Necromancers are already strikingly similar and in many cases interchangeable, Elementalists may be intertwined with Mesmers into a generic Mage class that can be taken either the damage direction or the disability direction. An even more diverse class option would be a Monk and Dervish combination that could go either melee damage or healing. Though it definitely changes the dynamic, it still allows players to play their favorite profession in GW while still having to expand themselves and learn new things.

I say either merge some professions or leave them all. Make everyone happy or make everyone reconsider the profession options.

@FengShui: actually, that may be a good idea. Merge current professions into a branch of a core profession tree. Monks might specialize as shamans, and so gain the Rit type skills of Restoration and Communing. Mesmers might have a branch that becomes more melee oriented, and take on the Assassin role; or Stealth oriented and be able to set/disarm traps? Rangers, too, could possibly work as an Assassin, as other people have posted, so I'm not sure which of the 4 new professions would fall under what core profession - Rits and Necros? Makes sense, too. But, so do Rits and Monks.

Warrior Monks? Isn't that, in concept, what a Dervish is?

As someone earlier posted, the HoM poses a problem about what to expect in GW2. Why bother if everything you put there won't exist in GW2? Why save all my Dervish, or Rit, or Assassin stuff if it can't be played in GW2?

Core classes are good.

Every other class had huge problems with balance and generally made things bad in PvP.

New classes are good as long as they don't override the archtypes.

...Which, unfortunately, is all the new professions ever did.

All of them.

Well, all of the stuff in the HoM is generic. Even though I put in my Elite Luxon armor as "Assassin" style, every other profession (barring P and D) has that "armor art" available. Destroyer weapons as well -- even my Assassin has to get the Sword, the Bow, etc. to fill the hall. If nothing else, I suspect we'll be seeing at least skills for each currently existing weapon in GW2.

At any rate, I'm glad you agree, and it seems like for a lot of people that would be an acceptable compromise. Still, I'm not opposing just keeping all 10 professions in with some major balance updates. By balance I mean I want to see the ability for Assassins/Mesmers to be more viable in PvE (with more than just 1-2 builds capable of functioning well) and general balancing of unstrippables like Chants and Weapon Spells.

True, they did all bring new skill types to the table though; item & weapon spells, shadow stepping, echos and the various types of chants, as well as avatar forms (which I was EXTREMELY disspointed they didn't expand on the form skills in GWEN at all)

Essentially though you're right, they were all just spin offs of the core classess. I think the only truley "original" new profession would have been the chronomancer from utopia but unfortunately that whole thing got scrapped.

i hope they keep ritualists but as more of there chronomancer idea because then i think ther would be more ideas for the class instead of having 1 or 2 overpowered skills and the rest crap. And i hope they find more of a niche with ritualists if they stay cause theres no point in able to do a little of everything when there are 2nd proffs

Its really hard to say which class would be gone because each class has its own use in PVP or PVE. But in the end i think anet will bring back all the classes in GW2 or just the core, or scrap them all and start all over with a mixture of classes, since it is 250 years later and things do evolve.

But if i had to chose once class to be gone, down right to the Mesmer.

woot summoning monks <<<go RA lol they are already there

duel axe war would be cool!

The problem with the chronomancer (he was a monster summoner, right?) is that his niche' was already pretty much filled by the necro in terms of monster summoning abilities. Granted, the Necro needs dead bodies, but those are in *huge* supply. The chronomancer would only be unique in that he can begin the area with monsters in hand.

Granted, they could get creative in allowing the chrono to have more versatility added to his summonings, maybe in the way of being able to control their skills and the like, but that's an idea for another time.

I think it would've been a much safer and just as cool route to follow if ANet introduced new attribute lines instead. Like you could give Warriors a new weapon, Ele's a new spell (or heck, you could give *them* the monster summonings, 'cus of bein' arcane n' stuff), and the likes.

Hmm they intended the chronomancer to be a summoner? I always assumed they were about time manipulation (which I figured would manifest it self in game as slowing/speed skills, damage 'repeating' skills and the like, idk).

seems I was misinformed about anet's intentions with that one

Nah I had no idea. I pretty much just wasted a space of this page. I think summoners were "rumored" to be the next profession, so somehow I associated that with the chronomancer (even though I *know* that chronos/kronos=time, w2g Bry).

But even that sounds more like a mesmer than anything, especially since it's about "manipulating" something.

As someone who grew up as the literal/proverbial red-headed-stepchild, I think ANet treats mesmers just fine for a niche profession...They were more than likely developed more for the PvP aspect of the game and hence, are not valued in PvE. If e-denial and interrupts were more effective at shutting down mobs like more Cry of Frustration type skills and means to buff the team's energy reserves as a "battery" role (i.e. OoB) then maybe...We'll see if the mesmer sticks around and just gets a "remodel" to become a little more group-friendly.

As for dropping professions, well...I always hate it when people put out these speculative threads...Every time someone speculates over something it all just degenerates into guessing, defensive whining and QQ over rumored changes no one has any information about. Then there's the profession-slamming that is sure to follow "this sucks, that sucks, you suck...etc"

Personally, I think we are in for an all new game. We may to have XYZ axis of movement, the possibility of jumping, swimming, climbing. There's the likelihood of a total change in the way instancing works, there are new races available that may or may not have race specific skills/professions...The lands are going to be completely twisted about from what we know...new enemies, new places to go, old places shrouded in mystery or gone entirely...Why would anyone even presume that there will be a mere dropping of a profession or two? The entire mechanic of the game may change to such an extent that all professions are reworked, or renamed, or dropped for a new system. We may see multiple hybrid professions or completely new ones...Asura Mechanic, Charr Shamen (oops, they're ousted)...uh, Charr Scout, Sylvari Druid....who knows?

The information about GW2 has been coming out in such a glacial pace that people are bound to speculate the hell out of every crumb they are thrown...*sniff-sniff* this crumb smells like cheese, but it could very well be earwax...hmmmmm. My suggestion is not to eat anything until you know what it is.

i see paras and dervs not making it. paras i'll miss, dervs.. not so much.. at all lol. sins are a crucial part of the MMO-style gameplay, and rits are our only other viable dedicated healers. the core classes will stay safe.

I wonder why this thread is still going on? I mean I haven't seen/heard anything about ANY of our professions that we have now being in GW2 at all. I'm personally hopeing for brand new professions.

I've heard more than a few people say this. Where do you get this stuff?