I wouldn't go jumping the gun MMS...but damn it it's true...just.wow.
@ carl..this is probably just the tip of the iceberg.
Early 3 yr mini release
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MMSDome
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I wouldn't go jumping the gun MMS...but damn it it's true...just.wow.
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i have screenshots and will post them when i am done in dungeon if need be.
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Cleavage
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it sure is. just like the focus that went up in high end, was nerfed, and the kid got the shaft. remember that? I do. and guess what guild he was a member of. it got nerfed because the kid called attention to it, right? because it was game breaking, right?
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Now Wasabi gets 175 ectos profit off a year 3 mini 3 days before its supposed to be released.
An official statement was made about -- Year 3 mini's will be released on monday-- another --All birthdays are reset to day 1 general public release --
I was a beta tester. Many friends were. Do we have our pets early ? NO
Its crystal clear and the public demands action against either if there was an unfair advantage made by a certain person, or towards the person or persons involved in making the official statements of release and the reset of creation dates.
Either way its crummy and if it looks like a bookah then it must be a bookah.
mr_stealth
A good way to tell if this is merely a case of beta testers with slightly older characters would be to look back to last year. If they are really a few days older, they would have also received last year's minipets early.
FireFox
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Originally Posted by Cleavage
Exactly. Wasabi seemed to have the only one not nerfed in the game and profited big on it then boom the buyer gets screwed. GG
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Creeping Carl
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Originally Posted by Cleavage
Exactly. Wasabi seemed to have the only one not nerfed in the game and profited big on it then boom the buyer gets screwed. GG
Now Wasabi gets 175 ectos profit off a year 3 mini 3 days before its supposed to be released. An official statement was made about -- Year 3 mini's will be released on monday-- another --All birthdays are reset to day 1 general public release -- I was a beta tester. Many friends were. Do we have our pets early ? NO Its crystal clear and the public demands action against either if there was an unfair advantage made by a certain person, or towards the person or persons involved in making the official statements of release and the reset of creation dates. Either way its crummy and if it looks like a bookah then it must be a bookah. |
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...35&postcount=3
If you're condemning the favouritism, then why were you trying to buy it? You were contributing to the problem and yet you're here complaining about it?
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So... if it wasnt given out and the only way to create characters was when the game went live how are we supposing this new minipet arrived early??
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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
Some players were able to create characters before the launch of Guild Wars three years ago if they participated in the "E3 for Everyone" Guild Wars event that took place at E3 2005. During this event, players were invited to create characters and play Guild Wars during E3. Some members of [ZoS] participated in this event. If a player who participated in that event still has a character they created from that period, they will receive a minipet, based upon the character's creation date. Apparently, however, even if a character was created at E3 for Everyone, appearance of the third birthday present hasn't happened at uniformly the same time. Meaning, some people who have a character from that promotional event have got their birthday minipet already, some people have not.
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http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_..._favourites.3F
Arkantos
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A good way to tell if this is merely a case of beta testers with slightly older characters would be to look back to last year. If they are really a few days older, they would have also received last year's minipets early.
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o m g pizowned
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Originally Posted by Creeping Carl
I dont see how YOU of all people can throw stones since you were trying to buy the minipet cave spider.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...35&postcount=3 If you're condemning the favouritism, then why were you trying to buy it? You were contributing to the problem and yet you're here complaining about it? |
he bid so he could let people notice it was illegally in the game.
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Originally Posted by FireFox
Wasabi had the item when it got nerfed. He gained nothing from it.
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Drogo Boffin
this is the biggest load of crap i have ever read. I have personally helped Wasabi Vanquish and and map areas. He has earned everything hes got just like everybody else. This isnt WOW they arent allowed to just spawn stuff.
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this is the biggest load of crap i have ever read. I have personally helped Wasabi Vanquish and and map areas. He has earned everything hes got just like everybody else.
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fenix
I'll explain the whole 'account reset' thing. I distinctly remember Gaile posting it, so here's what I remember.
People asked how old her account was, or something to that effect. She said it was probably 5-6 years old, BUT, all accounts were set back to 0 as /age, when the game officially went live. This meant that everyone would be getting the 3rd year pets on the same date, regardless of if they had older accounts.
About the minipet, it's surprising that with all of the 'whitewasabi has an older account' posts, why have no other minipets been posted up anywhere? Just ZoS?
FireFox, you're bad. Clearly something is going on, so you just post rubbish posts. Making your guild look worse.
Cleavage has cleared this up a bit. Beta accounts aren't older, but ZoS are...
I had a feeling this has been going on, what with WhiteWasabi desperately trying to sell of the nerfed item, as well as getting given customised hats to sell, and then AP being in [rawr] for the mAT. This shouldn't happen.
People asked how old her account was, or something to that effect. She said it was probably 5-6 years old, BUT, all accounts were set back to 0 as /age, when the game officially went live. This meant that everyone would be getting the 3rd year pets on the same date, regardless of if they had older accounts.
About the minipet, it's surprising that with all of the 'whitewasabi has an older account' posts, why have no other minipets been posted up anywhere? Just ZoS?
FireFox, you're bad. Clearly something is going on, so you just post rubbish posts. Making your guild look worse.
Cleavage has cleared this up a bit. Beta accounts aren't older, but ZoS are...
I had a feeling this has been going on, what with WhiteWasabi desperately trying to sell of the nerfed item, as well as getting given customised hats to sell, and then AP being in [rawr] for the mAT. This shouldn't happen.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Drogo Boffin
this is the biggest load of crap i have ever read. I have personally helped Wasabi Vanquish and and map areas. He has earned everything hes got just like everybody else.
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
That's great, but why does he and other members of ZoS deserve minipets that weren't supposed to be released until Monday?
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Cacheelma
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Originally Posted by Mortal Amongst Mere Gods
and get used to the idea of "he's friends with the boss, so he gets better pay". That's kinda the way stuff goes. Quit Q.Q'ing and move along.
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Eye-opener indeed. Thanks!
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They cannot be "handed" out. The characters are 3 years old to get it. I'm sure the beta testers just got to create minis a few days earlier.
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No need for Gaile to confirm this. I've been with the game since the World Preview Event. It's been like this since the first year's mini.
So this whole "early 3rd year minis" has NOTHING to do with them being in the beta. Unfair privilege is UNFAIR.
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I kind of skimmed through the topic, but here's a thought; what if they didn't get their minipets early though foul play, but it was just simply a fault in the GW system?
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Please.
And because of this comment by Regggy Nobra.-
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_..._favourites.3F
I can conclude that she fits the position as good as Gaile; she doesn't know what she' talking about. She's misinformed. She's lost touch with the game. You name it.
Let me repeat again here.-
ALL CHARACTER'S CREATION DATES WERE RESET FOR THE RETAIL RELEASE. Nobody can get ANY birthday minipets more than 24 hours in advance NORMALLY. E3 For Everyone occurs nearly A YEAR before the game released. If what Ms. Nobra says is true, someone would get the minis A YEAR EARLY. Not days, not weeks.
PLEASE. Fire yourself. At least Gaile never makes such idiotic mistake.
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I'll explain the whole 'account reset' thing. I distinctly remember Gaile posting it, so here's what I remember.
People asked how old her account was, or something to that effect. She said it was probably 5-6 years old, BUT, all accounts were set back to 0 as /age, when the game officially went live. This meant that everyone would be getting the 3rd year pets on the same date, regardless of if they had older accounts. About the minipet, it's surprising that with all of the 'whitewasabi has an older account' posts, why have no other minipets been posted up anywhere? Just ZoS? FireFox, you're bad. Clearly something is going on, so you just post rubbish posts. Making your guild look worse. Cleavage has cleared this up a bit. Beta accounts aren't older, but ZoS are... I had a feeling this has been going on, what with WhiteWasabi desperately trying to sell of the nerfed item, as well as getting given customised hats to sell, and then AP being in [rawr] for the mAT. This shouldn't happen. |
Nightow
What does Vanguishing have to do with anything? I have guildies who vanguish 'til they're blue in the face. Come on now, stop trying to make excuses.
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I'm bad? Honestly if you want to continue to make up theories about how we're somehow exploiting the game, be my guest. You can be grouped with the people who "swear we saw aliens last night".
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Sup Fenix. You can chill with me
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Well Wasabi has been vanquishing a lot of areas the past few weeks. He clearly deserved it.
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Historically, Minipets are ALWAYS worth large amounts when they are first released. Everyone knows that. The fact that Anet allow ZoS to get them EVEN EARLIER, shows that there is another reason behind it. Waiting 3 days to get a minipet you will simply keep, is not a big deal. If they wanted to keep them they wouldn't mind waiting, as it is a personal thing to have a minipet collection.
The fact that they OBVIOUSLY got them early just to sell, hints that there is another reason that they got them early. You don't just give minipets early if someone wants to add them to their collection. Especially if they go and sell it for obviously large profits.
MMSDome
Here is a tiny piece of what i was explained In-game.
Creeping Carl
I dont understand why a dev would need gold in a game they helped make. These conspiracy theories make my head spin.
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Yeah, and they spawn gold too right? Dude get over yourself.
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So nice of you to tell me to get over myself. I take it you programmed for ArenaNet and know all of the commands? While I never said I did, it's common sense that all MMO games give GMs commands to create items and do many other things. And as I have said, people have commented about being beta testers and getting basic GM commands when the beta test came to an end. Search the forums and find it if you so desire.
Now, if you have nothing positive to contribute, stop trying to flame me and leave well enough alone.
Cleavage
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I dont see how YOU of all people can throw stones since you were trying to buy the minipet cave spider.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...35&postcount=3
If you're condemning the favouritism, then why were you trying to buy it? You were contributing to the problem and yet you're here complaining about it?
Ding Ding Ding Ding !!!
Joe ftw
Originally Posted by Creeping Carl
I dont see how YOU of all people can throw stones since you were trying to buy the minipet cave spider.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...35&postcount=3
If you're condemning the favouritism, then why were you trying to buy it? You were contributing to the problem and yet you're here complaining about it?
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*cough* sarcasm///
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Joe ftw
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Originally Posted by Tarun
They indeed can. Even people who beta tested things such as hero battles mentioned getting a basic GM status where they could create gold, etc. It has been posted in this forum, too.
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Creeping Carl
Oh so GMs can spawn gold whenever they want, yet devs still need a middleman to sell their minipets for them to get some gold? Head is spinning more and more.
You crazy conspiracy theorists...
You crazy conspiracy theorists...
Tarun
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ON A SEPARATE SERVER. Not the main one.
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Common sense prevails!
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Originally Posted by Creeping Carl
I dont understand why a dev would need gold in a game they helped make. These conspiracy theories make my head spin.
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I have no problems with devs being all powerful, I could care less, if they can spawn any item, HOWEVER, I do have a problem with the power creep that follows. it seems like it may need to be put in check.
Creeping Carl
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Ding Ding Ding Ding !!!
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*cough* sarcasm///
he bid so he could let people notice it was illegally in the game. |
Oh? So he illegally bid on an illegal item to "let people notice it was illegally in the game?" Because that's surely better than making a thread pointing to it right? And his complaints after the fact that he didnt win the item were legitimate right?
Sorry I dont buy it.
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it's not hard to figure, it's not that the devs need gold, it's the non-dev people who are around them that do.
I have no problems with devs being all powerful, I could care less, if they can spawn any item, HOWEVER, I do have a problem with the power creep that follows. it seems like it may need to be put in check. |
o m g pizowned
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Originally Posted by Creeping Carl
Oh? So he illegally bid on an illegal item to "let people notice it was illegally in the game?" Because that's surely better than making a thread pointing to it right? And his complaints after the fact that he didnt win the item were legitimate right?
Sorry I dont buy it. |
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So what if they tested on a different server? The code is still in the program and is available globally. An account simply needs to be flagged with GM permissions.
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Even so, this issue goes above devs wanting to spawn gold. They made the game, if they need gold they surely have ways of getting it....if they even needed it, which is unlikely since I know I wouldn't play GW in my spare time if I worked for Anet (too much GW for me haha).
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Oh? So he illegally bid on an illegal item to "let people notice it was illegally in the game?" Because that's surely better than making a thread pointing to it right? And his complaints after the fact that he didnt win the item were legitimate right?
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Zinger314
So...how long until we get a "We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia" reponse from Regina?
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Oh? So he illegally bid on an illegal item to "let people notice it was illegally in the game?" Because that's surely better than making a thread pointing to it right? And his complaints after the fact that he didnt win the item were legitimate right?
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You dare call my bid illegal ???
First off everyone knows he would not sell it that cheap and if i could get it for that cheap I would have been the one looking at a 150 ecto profit at that point lol gg
btw... check the WTB forum lately
Also.. were you in Kamadan when Wasabi was spamming it then eventually found his poor sap of a buyer ?
stop your sillyness
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he was never bidding on it to win it. GET THAT?
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Regardless of his true intentions behind that post it doesn't affect the fact that WhiteWasabi had a 3rd year minipet early.
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But since he's backpedalling on the issue, I wont press it any further. It's pointless.
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stop your sillyness
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Arkantos
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Regardless of his true intentions behind that post it doesn't affect the fact that WhiteWasabi had a 3rd year minipet early. The whole idea that he had one beforehand and decided to sell it is the problem behind the matter. As MMSDome's screenshot shows, it was Andrew Patrick's mini and it should not have been released to any player until the real birthdays actually occur. It was basically free money for the taking - and as everyone should know, GM's aren't supposed to hand that kind of stuff out.
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Well, as far as I know, there are multiple devs in ZoS. Those could be the devs or the devs could have done what AP 'supposedly' did and gave theirs to a guildie - or the guildies could have had early birthdays - it's hard to tell until we get some official word in here.
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Oh but the devs can poof up gold (like some of you claim) so why dont they just magically create gold for the non-dev people then? But no, they'd rather raise a red flag by poofing up a minipet early so that everyone would notice and get angry right?
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it was probably meant as a legit gift, it was probably not foul-spawned, it probably was a gift for someone with the oldest account, it was probably meant to be sold at a later date. it wasn't meant for someone to run right out and sell it. that is what happened though. that is why people are suspicious.
or not.
the 'perfect crime', is never perfect. now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a crime, I'm just saying it was executed at the wrong time. he should have waited. no one would have said a word.
oh and spawning gold would just be -too easy- devs aren't that stupid, I hope.