3-Necro HM Build

Hi All

Wow this is some post, I must admitt that I am still new to Guild Wars only having played it for a few weeks and at the moment only Nightfall Story, stuck on Mission Gate of Pain, lol.I have only unlocked 2 Necro characters so far. I am sorry if my question has been answered but from my point of view at the minute its the missions for the different storys that I am interested in and only Normal Mode, how will the 3 Necro build handle missions like Gate of Pain, Madness, Abbadons Gate, along with missions for Phrophicies, Factions and EOTN, is it a build that will work in general or is it specific?. Sorry as I say I am new to this so my understanding of the game mechanics is pretty lame at the moment, although on this damn pain mission I am learning, lol..

Sorry forgot to say my Primary Profession is an Elementalist

Nos

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Hi Washi

Thanks for the builds, excellent damage, quickly burns through mobs, never killed the demon groups in Gate of Pain so quick before, the interupts work perfectly on the Terrorweb Dryders, i accidently took on 4 of them and they never managed to get meteor off, superb, unfortuantly again it was the Torturewebs that killed me off, interupts were working but just not fast enough, his recharge time for his skills is so quick, also its a hit or a miss if Liquid gets interupted, gonna play EOTN to unlock a Ranger character and try a broadhead setup on one of my heroes, see if that works.

Nos

Well you could take like 3 mesmer interrupts on your own bar and shut this guy down yourself, I think it would be enough. I could help you get this mission done if you want, unless you want to beat it yourself.

Hi Washi

Thanks for the offer but this mission has got me so annoyed that I will be dammed if I cant do it myself, lol. I tried your suggestion of more interupts on my character, still the same outcome, Liquid on a normal bar has an activation of 1 sec, on a boss its around 0.5, I just cant interupt it in time, although my heroes can sometimes, its a hit or a miss, I will figure something out though.

Also found out that the searing flames build is well useless against destroyers, they are immune to burning and have an extremly high defence against fire.

To the Origional poster of this thread, sorry for high jacking your post with my own questions.

Noss

Well you could cheat a little and wait till the dryder uses skill Soul Torture, it has 15s activation time (well actually 30s, but he's a boss) giving you plenty of time to kill him.

Or you could take a paragon hero with [theyre on fire] and make sure he's on fire

How about [preservation] for the resto's elite? Neither [weapon of remedy] nor [Xinrae's weapon] is really all that great.

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Xinrae's Weapon is awesome if a human being is using it; but I've been watching the Sabway resto with it, and the results just aren't there. It's applied, like, now and then, and not always when it's really needed.

Oops, just noticed that [preservation] is no good because it heals ALLIES. That means it's going to heal all your minions too. I withdraw the suggestion.

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If the heroes don't use [Xinrae's weapon], [Weapon of remedy], or [preservation] correctly then why don't we try them out with [spirit light weapon]?

Because that weapon spell is worse than Healing Breeze.

Oh, and anyone claiming that Preservation is better than Xinrae's or Remedy is either stupid or bad. Heroes might not use them well, but you can't go far wrong with either of the weapons. Plus Preservation is a bad elite all around. Xinrae's and Remedy are the best Rit elites out there.

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They don't. Looks like it has to be [xinrae's weapon].

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Hello,

What is actually to your mind the best build to vanquish ?
Are there any changes to the initial 3N HM build (first post), particularly with the update from 17.08.2008 ?


Many thanks in advance


Best regards,


FUN

Xinrae weapon should replace weapon of remedy. A free protective spirit into the life steal is worth more than a condition remover.

need an advice for a new hero, cuz the 3 Necro build doesn't work as good in NM as it does in HM

i'm a Ele, and i run a hero MM, and another hero Ele, what sohuld i put on the 3rd slot?
i mostly put my prot. monk cuz hench sux

curently i'm playing on the protector title, already done elona, have only half of cantha, and last 5 missions in tyria.

oh and using jagged bones is better then Flesh golem?

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No heals for the mm because you don't want your minions to be healed. You want them to die with death nova for aoe damage and jagged bones to create a new minion. As well as just summon another pair instead of wasting time healing.

Foul feast is a condition remover, absolutely no reason or point to be used as an "energy management tool" because half the time they spend 5 energy to take off 1 condition (-2 energy total).

Signet of lost souls should be in just about any necro build incase minions go down quickly and theirs a long battle between you and enemies. Pretty much worst case scenario is that they have too much energy. Usually never a bad thing.

@Dego

You can pretty much use any hero in your third slot on NM.As long as all 3 have decent bars it's pretty hard to go wrong tbh.

For your particular team type a Warrior could be useful to soak up some aggro or as you suggested a decent monk bar leaving you free to hench the tank, especially if your are tanking with your minions.

As for [animate Flesh Golem] vs [Jagged Bones] there are two similar themes or variants for an MM I'll attempt to sum up quickly and basically so you know where your at:

The first is the "bomber" where the goal is to create as many low level minions as quickly as possible to then have them die as quickly as possible to fuel [death nova] AoE spikes and soul reaping e-gain.

Basically an AoE DPS machine with a side of fueling any Necros on your team.

The other is a "meat shield" MM where the goal is to create high level minions that can act as tanks for soaking up and mitigating damage away from your team while hopefully doing a fair bit of DPS as well.

Basically damage mitigation/aggro control with a side of DPS.

Hence "bomber" MM's often use [Jagged Bones] to keep a near endless cyclic supply of minion spawns and deaths going while "meat shield" MM's often use [animate flesh golem] as it's the highest level minion a MM can spawn which is great for tanking.

Neither is better, just depends which MM type you want.

Wiki has some basic examples of both types for you to play around with.

@Brian

What Knight said, it's a bomber build that's the fuel for the whole team.

BotM is for meat shield builds although I have seen bombers use it at times where there are huge distances between mobs, imo the only time a bomber could justify slotting it.

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