[Dev Update] Shadow Form Balance Changes - 2 July 2008

lol those people stock piling sup shadow arts runes must be sooo pissed.

I find it rather offensive if not insulting they manually change the ecto prices. It took 4 weeks to go from 5,5k to 3,7k, now with a blink of eyes they were back at 5,5.
And no, dont send me that crap of "the players marketing bla bla bla" becuase there was no way they would jump that much so fast.
I aslo find ridiculous, because of what said before, how they bennefit one minority of players who has been saving ectos from the very beggining (aka rich people).

At the same time they launched the update, i went to the material trader to see the price of ectos and they were already 5,5k. There is no doubt they manually changed its price. Now THIS is an absurd and offensive to all players seeing how they only manually "fix" the "economy" for the rich people.

OH its not ridiculous I'm perfectly fine with the NERF But there was much Complaining Such as PERMA SF being God mode, last i checked we could still die and only those who took the time to Perfect the USE Of perma SF ever truly reaped the awards. Call it God Mode Is what I call absurd. I didn't see any 1 hit kills. But hey call it what you want, And you must admit if no one had ever said anything about PERMA SF they woulda never have nerfed it so someone had to have came across it and Cried out Foul to A-net.

As if anyone cared about what armor or weapons we are using

the time it takes should stay about the same since u are only killing less riders. just every 20-25 mins u will get 2-3ectos instead of 6-7.
so it will take u double the time to get a stack of ectos, but u are still going to do it faster than anything else. This will lead to the ectos leveling off to 3.8-4k as average prices. Damage done. Move on, just a game at the end of the day

I can't speak for him but to me deleting your assasin just because of this nerf (even though I hate assassins and think they're overused and anemic looking--every time I see one it makes me want to adopt a starving ethiopian) kind of implies that you don't really enjoy the game or the characters you create--it's just "all about the bling," such as it were. I'm no opponent of wealth for wealth's sake, as anyone who recognizes my character's surname could surely deduce--but deleting a character because you can't farm with it anymore makes me sad because it implies that your enjoyment of the game is actually very narrow. If that works for you that's okay I guess, but it just gives me the impression that 99.999% of the game's content is wasted on these folks. I won't begrudge anyone for it--do what you want with your own account--but I love GW and am constantly appreciating the many ways it can be played.

ohai thar. i was browsing the internets when i heard about this game called guild wars. i herd its a game. amirite?

UW mobs have always used Proph skills before this update.

Did you even read the update notes?
Especially the party about Signet of Disenchantment?

And ecto's are allready at 5,5K at this very moment.

Good job, ANet.

Unfortunately, you're months late, and Ursan is still working.

doesn't change the fact that they're core mobs, not proph. consider it a coincidence up until now.

I'm a hardcore sin player. Always have been, so first of all, I've been laughing at all the bandwagoners that made a sin just to farm ectos [guys named "Lve For Ecto" or "Ecto Machine" or "Ecto Cum To Me"]. The SF-upadte was a chance for me to go from a peasant living at 10k a month to FoW armor in 3 weeks' time. I'm a sin, but I'm pretty happy to see this nerf, since SF was so invincible it was boring for me to just say to guildies, "Hey. You want me to go perma right?" When I did the Forgemaster quests today for my FoW armor [right before the nerf] I pretty much ran my group, and there was no teamwork, really. So, I'm happy to see this. GW will be a cooperative game again.

just dont kill the new riders simple.
Also just becuase the trader is at 5.5k doesnt mean ppl will follow him, and Anet fixing the price is wrong

Chaos planes still very farmable, just went to see for fun on my ele. Albeit the update has removed a fair few of the dream riders from farmability, there still is however 4 riders you can do + the mindblade groups. Didn't do them all due to lag, but probably would only take 15mins. As i said though, just checked for fun - i wont actually bother doing it since its boring.

ARTIFICIAL ECONOMY FTW!!

Well, I can't speak too authoritatively on the subject, as I've avoided assassins like the plague and never had any intention of running one. The PvE/PvP skill split was, I thought, an attempt to deal with this (because, let's face it-- echo SF in pvp is borderline grief--it's not terribly effective at killing things, but it pretty much lets you /dance in your opponent's face) but it seems like someone dropped the ball to me because when they reduced the duration for PvP only I kind of assumed that they intended to leave PvE Perma-SF intact for farming use.

6 co-operating bears and a backline?

Because making a character not to play it, but to farm with it is sad imo.

The only real problem I have with this change/nerf is the fact that they do this in the name of the economy.

Seriously, in the name of the economy. Come on. The economy was FUBAR like a year ago. Inscriptions should have been the game from the start or at least for pvp cuz making a pve/pvp character without them is just rediculous for average players. Ursan took ectos from like 8.5k to 5.5k, and ursan and sf along with exploits took gems down from rediculous high to like 1-2k per gem now. And they decide to split pve and pvp, change shadowform, knowing full well its only real use is farming, and then go 'oh noes - ectos dropped to 3k'. It is just a stupid decision on ANETs part.

Yes i admit SF is imba, being able to farm like 50e in a few hours is a bit extreme. But thats why the value of the ecto changes. If theres is an influx of supply the price goes down. All the really was changing was the price of the ecto. The price on object in the economy still cost the same. Just instead of 20ecto for 100k you got 30ecto for 100k. 100k is still a 100k. Granted this still surges massive amounts of ecto into the market, all people were doing is hording stacks of ectos and armbraces anyway, because as we all know all that is left in GW is farming and title grinding.

Its just a little too late for me to be okay with ANET doing something in the name of the economy.

bai bai SF - You're not quite dead, but you're almost there.

Yay! I got my guildies back!