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Sai Rith

Krytan Explorer

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22 Jul 2008 at 01:43 - 201

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Do you also chastise the people running around in FoW armor with rare skin weapons in TOA? What about the ones wearing fancy gear in GvG? For most of those people, their choice of armor has nothing to do with you, it's their own little achievement that makes them happy to look at. Yes, there are a few players who try to use their fancy armor/titles as a sign of superiority, but the vast majority don't.

If I get bored in a PvE outpost and want to entertain myself, I'm damn well going to play around with my wolf. It has no more to do with you than my choice of armor does. If it somehow bothers you, I'm not going to shove it in your face and bother you with it. By the same token, I suggest you stop shoving your inferiority complex on those around you.

I actually enjoyed that post and your avatar. +2

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

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22 Jul 2008 at 02:14 - 202

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stockholm

Rank means that if you flash it in a pug I'm leading your KICKED.

Lol jealousy is a bad thing.

If someone was showing off their GWAMM you'd do the same thing?
I worked long and hard to get mine (longer than it would take to get GWAMM for sure) and if I want to spam it around I will, I don't give a crap if you don't like it.
Its just another achievement.

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

22 Jul 2008 at 02:39 - 203

Nobody cares about HA. Even less people care about HA pugs.

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

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22 Jul 2008 at 03:11 - 204

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lykan

Lol jealousy is a bad thing.

If someone was showing off their GWAMM you'd do the same thing?
I worked long and hard to get mine (longer than it would take to get GWAMM for sure) and if I want to spam it around I will, I don't give a crap if you don't like it.
Its just another achievement.

Players that spam their rank around are usually the noobs that bought the account on E-bay and are useless in a pug, so keep spamming.

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

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22 Jul 2008 at 03:18 - 205

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stockholm

Players that spam their rank around are usually the noobs that bought the account on E-bay and are useless in a pug, so keep spamming.

Players that wear their FoW around are usually the noobs that bought the account on E-bay and are useless in a pug, so keep wearing it.

Turnabout is fair play.

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

22 Jul 2008 at 03:23 - 206

Ive won halls with hero way and a 0 fame monk who could roll the build I needed and healed brilliantly.

He was a natural and immediately knew what he was doing.

I have never ever won halls with R6+ pugs, but have a few times with better ranked players then me when I made a friend from [koss], but after he quit the game, I fully gave up at HA at rank 7.

I want to be able to play HA solo again and grind fame.

I respect people with higher ranks then me. I saw a GWAMM put on a rollerbeatle tonic, and ran around spamming his / her tiger and fired a golden Z spear emote into the tiger.

I followed the person around saying things like

'OMG you're awesome, I wish I had R9 and GWAMM'

I was also the only person there that was interested (a busy district in kamadan).

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

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22 Jul 2008 at 03:27 - 207

I have 12 fame what is to stop me from getting in HA group if you have a FoTM build anyone will take you.I haven't played in HS in sometime but I imagine it is more or less the same.

Those PvE Ranks whoopee except if you want to get a set of armour.

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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22 Jul 2008 at 03:40 - 208

The flashy emotes are cool, but anything lower than a Tiger is just lame to look at and makes me feel like the user is immature. Tiger itself is mehable, but a Phoenix still catches me off guard when I see it. I got ranked with it last RA/TA weekend and didn't realize what it was for a few seconds.

With the argument of experience and stuff, I can understand that some of them are a lot better tuned to PvP than I am, but the way that most of them come off makes me not care.

I expect people to have a reasonable ranking in PvE ranks if they're going to use the skills (i.e. +5 Asura in NM, +8 in HM, etc.).

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

22 Jul 2008 at 04:15 - 209

rank is the spice of life. Everyone knows that everyone plays the game these dsys just to work on titles now, because the game is in a bit of a stale state after 3 years.

sarcasm or truth?

A11Eur0

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Join Date: Apr 2005

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22 Jul 2008 at 04:23 - 210

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Do you also chastise the people running around in FoW armor with rare skin weapons in TOA? What about the ones wearing fancy gear in GvG? For most of those people, their choice of armor has nothing to do with you, it's their own little achievement that makes them happy to look at. Yes, there are a few players who try to use their fancy armor/titles as a sign of superiority, but the vast majority don't.

If I get bored in a PvE outpost and want to entertain myself, I'm damn well going to play around with my wolf. It has no more to do with you than my choice of armor does. If it somehow bothers you, I'm not going to shove it in your face and bother you with it. By the same token, I suggest you stop shoving your inferiority complex on those around you.

Inferiority complex. Yet another internet shrink.

No, I don't chastise GWAMMs or obsidian armor wearers or generic chaos gloves/blindfold/whatever else black armor wearers. You know why? Because they're just THERE. If someone displays their title...fine. It's when someone runs up to someone else, doesn't even have to be me, and flashes their annoying /rank in their face that starts me off. they have their hero title, that's fine. If they want to show people what they've accomplished...that's enough. /ranking random people, running into a crowd and doing their rank spin, screwing up peoples' screenshot ops, in general making themselves a nuisance is what gets me started.

Nutshell: there is NO REASON to gloat a PvP title in a PvE outpost unprovoked, which is what EVERYBODY who /ranks in PvE outposts does. So I call them on it.

I laugh every time someone pulls the "jealous" card. If I wanted R12, I'd have PvP'd from the start and I'd probably be there. If I want any /rank, I'll go work for it. I won't cry because someone else already has it.

EDIT* Reading the recent posts above me, I saw an instance of a R9/GWAMM doing his thing in an outpost. IMO...from the way it was described, that's fine. Having fun with it, not showing off for the sake of showing off. Being original about it. I have no problems with that kind of thing. But when someone just doesn't like the look of you, or decides that he wants to flex his e-peen at you, runs up standing on top of you twirling his dumb ass around with the tiger in front of him...that's just annoying, ridiculous and immature.

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

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22 Jul 2008 at 04:33 - 211

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Players that wear their FoW around are usually the noobs that bought the account on E-bay and are useless in a pug, so keep wearing it.

Turnabout is fair play.

Lol, don't even have FOW, (to ugly)

Sun Fired Blank

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

22 Jul 2008 at 04:42 - 212

My opinion is that rank is only quantifies your experience; it does nothing to qualify that experience or the player. Many people use it as a very quick means to discriminate against inferior players; greater experience often leads to greater proficiency.

Greater experience does not equal greater proficiency. Outside of selection criteria, rank is only a number that strokes one's ego and is ultimately nothing if one doesn't back it up; rank does not make a person superior to anyone.

That said, rank can be a formidable achievement. I don't mean that you should prostrate yourself before ranked people, but some ranked players are helpful, nice and competent folks; they deserve respect for those qualities.

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

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22 Jul 2008 at 05:25 - 213

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stockholm

Players that spam their rank around are usually the noobs that bought the account on E-bay and are useless in a pug, so keep spamming.

This is true, its well known that everyone(no exceptions) over rank 9 got their account on ebay . Its common knowledge that when the game was released Anet themselves put thousands of "Rank 9 already to go" accounts for sale on ebay, not one person earned it themselves.

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

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22 Jul 2008 at 05:43 - 214

Quote:

Originally Posted by A11Eur0

running into a crowd and doing their rank spin, screwing up peoples' screenshot ops, in general making themselves a nuisance is what gets me started.

On behalf of plebians everywhere, I apologize for dirtying your outposts with our presence. We should have known they're for your use only.

Quote:

Originally Posted by A11Eur0

So I call them on it. ... I won't cry

What the fark?

Quote:

Originally Posted by A11Eur0

EDIT* Reading the recent posts above me, I saw an instance of a R9/GWAMM doing his thing in an outpost. IMO...from the way it was described, that's fine. Having fun with it, not showing off for the sake of showing off.

What the fark part deux?

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

22 Jul 2008 at 06:19 - 215

Strangelove, this looks like an utter waste of your time.

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

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22 Jul 2008 at 06:32 - 216

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burst Cancel

Strangelove, this looks like an utter waste of your time.

That implies that at least some of the time I spend on gaming forums isn't a waste of time.

Hooray! I'm making a difference in something!

Circus Midget

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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22 Jul 2008 at 07:25 - 217

Not even gonna bother reading thread... just by the title you can see a flamefest coming. More complaining about not getting into groups. Everyone else says "HA is dead", "HA'ers sucks", "Rank means nothing".

The word "Rank" should not be allowed in a thread title because it's an auto flamefest. If you wanna see what people have to say about ranking in HA, use search...

On topic for now... yes it's true that rank9+ doesn't necessarily mean good group. Whenever a friend drags me into a r9+ group there's always at least one person (usually more) that doesn't know what they are doing.
People still rank because R9 means you at least have some experience, there is a much better chance of a decent group than if I went and pugged in an R3 group.

lutz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

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22 Jul 2008 at 07:53 - 218

Quote:

Originally Posted by A11Eur0

Inferiority complex. Yet another internet shrink.

No, I don't chastise GWAMMs or obsidian armor wearers or generic chaos gloves/blindfold/whatever else black armor wearers. You know why? Because they're just THERE. If someone displays their title...fine. It's when someone runs up to someone else, doesn't even have to be me, and flashes their annoying /rank in their face that starts me off. they have their hero title, that's fine. If they want to show people what they've accomplished...that's enough. /ranking random people, running into a crowd and doing their rank spin, screwing up peoples' screenshot ops, in general making themselves a nuisance is what gets me started.

Nutshell: there is NO REASON to gloat a PvP title in a PvE outpost unprovoked, which is what EVERYBODY who /ranks in PvE outposts does. So I call them on it.

I laugh every time someone pulls the "jealous" card. If I wanted R12, I'd have PvP'd from the start and I'd probably be there. If I want any /rank, I'll go work for it. I won't cry because someone else already has it.

EDIT* Reading the recent posts above me, I saw an instance of a R9/GWAMM doing his thing in an outpost. IMO...from the way it was described, that's fine. Having fun with it, not showing off for the sake of showing off. Being original about it. I have no problems with that kind of thing. But when someone just doesn't like the look of you, or decides that he wants to flex his e-peen at you, runs up standing on top of you twirling his dumb ass around with the tiger in front of him...that's just annoying, ridiculous and immature.

There's plenty reason to do so: to play around with people. If you're having fun doing it, then there's no reason to stop. It's legal, it's an online game, and really, why should you care about what other people you don't know think? It's a pug, play with them, even if they don't like it. Who cares? I'm pretty sure nobody does. I'd do it, if I actually bothered to farm HA for several hours on end.

I don't rank spam people at all, but I don't really care when other people do. You shouldn't, either. If you're bad at PvP then either stop caring enough to get bothered by it or actually go and play Guild Wars (not Farm Wars). "Guild Wars was built from the ground up as a PvP game." -ArenaNet Representative, Factions World Championship.

Alazardragoon

Academy Page

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Currently in National City California.

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22 Jul 2008 at 07:58 - 219

It means nothing to me. As long as the person is competent I don't care what rank they are. I don't even check it.

nightwatchman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

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22 Jul 2008 at 12:40 - 220

If rank means nothing, why are people moaning that they can't get into ranked teams.

Find 7 other unranked people and play. If rank makes no difference you should do great. If you're not doing great, then maybe rank makes a difference after all.

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

None but Fools [nuts]

22 Jul 2008 at 13:52 - 221

I though this one summarizes what people think:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stockholm

Players that spam their rank around are usually the noobs that bought the account on E-bay and are useless in a pug, so keep spamming.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Players that wear their FoW around are usually the noobs that bought the account on E-bay and are useless in a pug, so keep wearing it.

Turnabout is fair play.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stockholm

Lol, don't even have FOW, (to ugly)

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The other elite PvE players:
"LoL, noob! You don't have a FoW armor!"

Just like other PvP players:
LoL, noob! You got no rank! Go play PvE!

On the social side both sides have the same amount of idiots and flamers. There is no better side! There is only a side that you are more attracted to because of the gameplay elements.

cebalrai

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

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Me/E

22 Jul 2008 at 13:57 - 222

Rank = grind, unfortunately. It's quantity of play, not quality necessarily.

kenjaix

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Oh My God We [Win]

Mo/Me

22 Jul 2008 at 14:11 - 223

what I saw is someone didn't show their rank and they LFP with Rank.
I asked leader to show but they didnt, and kicked me out.

So many people maybe only Rank 3 and they LF Rank 9... funny...

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

22 Jul 2008 at 14:32 - 224

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarlett W

I've been playing this game for less than a month, but have played enough to know that people who say that are usually jealous of the "glowing noob." Sort of like in real life people are bitter at the guy with the good job and pretty girlfriend.

Can't be jealous of something not many in the game care about. And I've been playing for 3+ years and I'm like most in the game, could care less about PvP. I've been dragged into it on a couple of occasions by guildies, too easy if you have at least half a brain.

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

22 Jul 2008 at 15:08 - 225

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ate of DK

I though this one summarizes what people think:

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The other elite PvE players:
"LoL, noob! You don't have a FoW armor!"

Just like other PvP players:
LoL, noob! You got no rank! Go play PvE!

On the social side both sides have the same amount of idiots and flamers. There is no better side! There is only a side that you are more attracted to because of the gameplay elements.

Never in all my time playing this game have I got called a noob for not having Obsidian armor. Could I get Obsidian armor if I really wanted? Yes, but with time and I really don't want it that much.

kratimas

Wilds Pathfinder

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Order of the Setting Sun

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22 Jul 2008 at 15:18 - 226

PvP Rank means the same as PvE Titles -- Exactly Nothing!

around

Wilds Pathfinder

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22 Jul 2008 at 15:35 - 227

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masseur

Can't be jealous of something not many in the game care about. And I've been playing for 3+ years and I'm like most in the game, could care less about PvP. I've been dragged into it on a couple of occasions by guildies, too easy if you have at least half a brain.

So why aren't you top 100 material then?

Or is this the famous 'I'm good at it but I'm not interested' thing again?

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

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22 Jul 2008 at 15:42 - 228

Rank is usually an indication of how much one has played HA, and nothing more. That doesn't necessarily equate being skilled in HA, for example, fame farming and gimmicky builds.

Shadow Slave

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22 Jul 2008 at 15:58 - 229

Rank means something as long as you can see past the 'he definitely must have Ebayd / Gimmicked / etc...that title or rank' mentality...

At the end of the day, there are people out there who have genuinely earned their titles and are genuinely good players because of this fact.

You'd be a fool not to recognise this imo ~ meh

That being said, every man and his dog running round with a rank or title isnt an immediately good player ~

Friends list is my friend. I know a fair few PVErs who can hold their own against your average PVPer - but have no interest in titles.

(Similarly I have no interest in grinding the majority of PVE titles...but I can whack a Destroyer with the best of 'em)

I would choose ranked players over unranked players in most forms of PVP if I was pug-ing...probably still ask them to ping their build...and let their gameplay prove the rest.

If they are terribad, you know not to play with them again.

If they are terrigood (?) ..awesome -

Sai Rith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

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22 Jul 2008 at 16:44 - 230

What I'm about to post may be the best post in this thread IMO: Lol Guild Wars.

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

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Ganking, USA

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22 Jul 2008 at 17:18 - 231

When I see

"R8+ SWAY LF More"

Then yeah, I know rank means nothing.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

22 Jul 2008 at 17:25 - 232

Quote:

Originally Posted by around

So why aren't you top 100 material then?

Or is this the famous 'I'm good at it but I'm not interested' thing again?

I agree with this.

Also - you can all say "lol r8 LF rspike", but that R8 player will be better than your average player. In fact, they'll be significantly better. They'll also be better than the "Well, I've played since Beta so I know this game completely" player.

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

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22 Jul 2008 at 17:40 - 233

Quote:

Originally Posted by tehlemming

Nobody cares about HA. Even less people care about HA pugs.

The truest thing I've ever read in these forums in a while. Yea rank means nothing to me since I play it for the shits and giggles mostly.

Sai Rith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

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22 Jul 2008 at 17:42 - 234

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orange Milk

When I see

"R8+ SWAY LF More"

Then yeah, I know rank means nothing.

I somewhat agree with this. But put yourself in the shoes of someone starting a SWAY group. Would you take an R8 SWAYer over an unranked SWAYer?

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

22 Jul 2008 at 18:38 - 235

Quote:

Originally Posted by kratimas

PvP Rank means the same as PvE Titles -- Exactly Nothing!

This is the best post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sai Rith

What I'm about to post may be the best post in this thread IMO: Lol Guild Wars.

That spot has already been posted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sai Rith

I somewhat agree with this. But put yourself in the shoes of someone starting a SWAY group. Would you take an R8 SWAYer over an unranked SWAYer?

I would just invite whoever joins first and then I would base my decision on how well they communicate. A player with no rank can do the exact same thing as a r8+.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

22 Jul 2008 at 18:42 - 236

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thizzle

A player with no rank can do the exact same thing as a r8+.

......

Sarcasm?

Sai Rith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

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22 Jul 2008 at 19:04 - 237

There's actually such a thing as sucking at SWAY.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

22 Jul 2008 at 19:10 - 238

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thizzle

A player with no rank can do the exact same thing as a r8+.

I'll say take an extract from previous posts:

Rank is not an indicator of skill, but experience.

You would obviously take a higher ranked player because they seem more experienced, even if they Swayed their fame. Most unranked players probably won't be better than a ranked player. Although this is in terms of PuGs.

I mean, I used to have the same logic thinking I was extremely good at the game. I wasn't, and I still have to get better, like everyone else. Don't complain about rank discrimination, and think like them; "would I take someone who seems less experienced?". Less QQ more pew pew. (I love that saying)

English Warrior

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22 Jul 2008 at 19:15 - 239

Interesting Topic but as i think rank means nothing depending on the build as a r10 sway player may not be as skilled to play as a r10 balanced player tbh the only rank that means something to me is champ points and they are sold and farmed aswell /agree with tyla less QQ more PEW PEW!

pigdestroyer

Wilds Pathfinder

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22 Jul 2008 at 19:22 - 240

It means nothing to me, Im rank 9 and some of my most trusted guildmates when it came to pvp (gvg mostly) were r3-r4.

hint: ranked people mostly play with their friends, guildies etc. If you are ranked but don't know anyone you'll end up in groups almost as bad as unranked pugs.