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Originally Posted by Taurucis
@Bryant - I was thinking more along the lines of GW PvP dying.
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In addition-there's far more foul play involved: people dive, fake injuries, etc etc, and there are occasions when people lash out (Turkey vs Czech Republic in Euro 2008: Volkan got red carded for pushing over Koller).
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Originally Posted by around
No, we're saying that you're a noob and expect to be treated as one. No-one has either attacked you directly (apart from one nutter) or said you suck (apart from you yourself). And yes, you should stop complaining, because why should you expect to be singled out for special treatment?
Also-there is no more trashtalking in GW than in any other competitive sport (and yes, GW is, or at least was, competitive), so unless you really don't do any form of competition whatsoever, you can't really use that as an excuse. EDIT: What courtesy is that? is it the one called 'hay look, i'll gamble on that unranked guy who has a miniscule possibility of being good over my tried and tested friends list?' |
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Originally Posted by around
Managers 'trashtalk' each other all the time. Jose Mourino would always go on about how Alex Ferguson was a shit manager and that Chelsea would have no problems beating Man U in their game.
In addition-there's far more foul play involved: people dive, fake injuries, etc etc, and there are occasions when people lash out (Turkey vs Czech Republic in Euro 2008: Volkan got red carded for pushing over Koller). |
I'm talking about "foul play" as in sabotaging the other team... actually going out of their way to damage their opponents.
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I'm talking about "foul play" as in sabotaging the other team... actually going out of their way to damage their opponents. |
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Originally Posted by Taurucis
I'm not complaining, I'm pointing out the inherent flaws in HA that should be glaringly obvious.
Football is a competitive sport. You don't see teams insulting each other (that's usually what the fans do) or sabotaging each other, doing that would cause a scandal. Look at GW PvP.. you have guild drama (like I said, the last and only PvP guild I was in fell apart because some moron was bribed to kick everyone out) and everyone insults each other like there's no tommorow. That's not competition, that's... hatred? I dunno. @Bryant - I was thinking more along the lines of GW PvP dying. |
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Originally Posted by around
No-one does that in GW either. Yes, rawr got hacked, but I'm willing to put good money that no-one that they regularly play against did it. There's a lot of verbal abuse going around, but no-one means any of it. And yes, there are plenty of instances of players saying that other players suck and they would have no problems. The managers are also a bit like the stratcallers for a GvG team, so why you want to make the distinction I'm not sure.
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As I said the only PvP guild I was in was destroyed because some idiot kissed enough ass to get made an officer, and then he kicked everyone out.
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I don't see the team players screwing around with their opponents.
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Disbanding because of immaturity doesn't only happen in PvP guilds. Just because the only PvP guild you were in ended up like that don't mean they're all like that, and taking one guild as an example equates to an extremely shoddy conclusion.
As for sports, there have been alot of deliberate fouls. I'm sure that when Zidane did that headbutt and knocked that other guy off his feet he was meaning to do it because he was pissed off. I'm not big on football, but there is even a reference to that on Guild Wars.
When things get competetive some people will stop at nothing to win.
As for sports, there have been alot of deliberate fouls. I'm sure that when Zidane did that headbutt and knocked that other guy off his feet he was meaning to do it because he was pissed off. I'm not big on football, but there is even a reference to that on Guild Wars.
When things get competetive some people will stop at nothing to win.
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Disbanding because of immaturity doesn't only happen in PvP guilds. Just because the only PvP guild you were in ended up like that don't mean they're all like that, and taking one guild as an example equates to an extremely shoddy conclusion.
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I used to hang out in PvPer hubs, like ID1 of HA, most of what they spoke about was guild drama and how so-and-so was a complete scrub.
And Zidane got.. what, red card for that? I don't remember, I don't like sports too much... in Guild Wars you can be the most verbally abusive jackass out there and you can get away with it.
That's why I hate competitive stuff. There's too much team spirit.
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
And break ups like this don't happen in PvE guilds?
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Jackassery is everywhere in Guild Wars, but it is more prevalent in some areas.
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Originally Posted by Taurucis
In general PvE guilds are more relaxed, everyone is basically more mellow so they don't really let drama get to them. It is also easier to rebuild a PvE guild than a PvP guild... cause PvE players are easier to find, I think.
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
The past four guilds I've been in have all broken up due to massive e-drama issues. All PvE. My experience has shown me that both communities aren't so different.
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(why is it always that you and I always wind up arguing about a topic that's only barely related to the original topic?)
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Originally Posted by Taurucis
But PvP guilds are usually more on the serious side, unlike PvE guilds.
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(why is it always that you and I always wind up arguing about a topic that's only barely related to the original topic?)
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
There are PvP guilds that don't take the game seriously as well. Likewise, there are PvE guilds that take the game *very* seriously.
PvPers discriminate based off of rank. PvErs discriminate off of titles. For PvE you can say "well you don't have to play with them or those areas", the same thing can be said for HA. |
If you want to PvE, there's multiple areas you can go to.
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But if you want to HA, you're stuck.
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Likewise, if you want to DoA but don't have the required title rank, you're stuck.
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
HA is not the only form of PvP GW has. You've already shown that there are other alternatives by telling me you liked to AB.
Likewise, if you want to DoA but don't have the required title rank, you're stuck. |
The thing is, most people do DoA for the cash... there are multiple ways of getting cash in GW. There is only one way of getting fame in GW - HA.
