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beanerman_99

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30 Jul 2008 at 17:31 - 81

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Originally Posted by II Lucky Charm II

With all the ridiculous and unreasonable actions Anet has done to Guild Wars 1...

I pretty much stopped reading right there. Not to pick on you OP, But so many people on this forum make blanket statements like this without ever saying WHAT exactly Anet has done that pissed you off so bad. Lets hear some details on this. Which/what/how/and Why did a change affect you and how you play. You state this right at the beginning like everyone here totally agrees with you, but that is just not true.

To answer your topic though....I am eagerly awaiting GW2 and want to be part of it when it all begins. THAT is the best time to play

Unreal Havoc

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30 Jul 2008 at 17:47 - 82

Probably not bother with GW2, I'm looking more forward to AION.

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30 Jul 2008 at 17:47 - 83

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Originally Posted by beanerman_99

I pretty much stopped reading right there. Not to pick on you OP, But so many people on this forum make blanket statements like this without ever saying WHAT exactly Anet has done that pissed you off so bad. Lets hear some details on this. Which/what/how/and Why did a change affect you and how you play. You state this right at the beginning like everyone here totally agrees with you, but that is just not true.

To answer your topic though....I am eagerly awaiting GW2 and want to be part of it when it all begins. THAT is the best time to play

I second your opinion and add

I am happy they are putting all resources into the new game and are committed to it. Guild Wars is in maintenance mode, and that is ok. They still seem to pull off events. Recycled yes but they still have them. The game is years old and has pleased me during this time. For the monetary investment I made I have been paid back in enjoyment many times over.

Abedeus

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30 Jul 2008 at 18:10 - 84

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I pretty much stopped reading right there. Not to pick on you OP, But so many people on this forum make blanket statements like this without ever saying WHAT exactly Anet has done that pissed you off so bad. Lets hear some details on this. Which/what/how/and Why did a change affect you and how you play. You state this right at the beginning like everyone here totally agrees with you, but that is just not true.

How about everything from DoA to today for an answer? That is:

Grind to advance in storyline, grind to get into pugs, grind or h/h or guild, not nerfing OP builds, not balancing pve, splitting pve and pvp... Really, I said it so many times it's not funny anymore.

AscalonWarrior

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30 Jul 2008 at 18:16 - 85

Yeah I'll buy GW2 when it comes out

Smurf Minions

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30 Jul 2008 at 18:53 - 86

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Originally Posted by Redrocket

I will not move on to GW2 because of all the whiners this game has. I have never seen so many people cry over PVE skills. I mean do you actually NOT want to enjoy this game? Do you want it to be so hard it’s not enjoyable? I like playing THROUGH the game. If you think a skill is broken don’t use it. If you want the game to be a challenge, don’t use a certain skill, bring a different group, play in HM, etc....so NO I’m not moving on and I have pretty much stopped play GW because of the ridiculous nerfs.

Lol so you won't bother everything that you accomplished with some good effort be squashed by some noob skills as ursan?

Abedeus

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30 Jul 2008 at 19:08 - 87

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Originally Posted by Smurf Minions

Lol so you won't bother everything that you accomplished with some good effort be squashed by some noob skills as ursan?

Imo he just didn't accomplish anything with effort. He already had everything super easy.

bookworm438

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30 Jul 2008 at 19:20 - 88

How does everything on this forum turn into an argument. So far all I've seen is arguing over who's opinion about the game is better. All Lucky Charm is asking is why do you continue to play PvE, and if you'll move onto GW2. Which means the responses are going to based on opinion. Opinion =/= Fact.

Yes I'll play GW2. I wouldn't say 'move on' because I'll still play GW1. Why do I play PvE still? I like to go through the game with friends.

beanerman_99

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30 Jul 2008 at 19:20 - 89

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

How about everything from DoA to today for an answer? That is:

Grind to advance in storyline, grind to get into pugs, grind or h/h or guild, not nerfing OP builds, not balancing pve, splitting pve and pvp... Really, I said it so many times it's not funny anymore.

Not everyone agrees that these are problems. I don't. I see the PvP/PvE split one of the best things to happen to this game. It should have been done a long time ago.

Grind to advance the story? Very little. Not even enough to whine about it. Name one RPG where there is not some sort of grind.

OP Build and Balancing PvE? Ok maybe you have something here. But truly there will always be a build that would be considered to be overpowered by someone. True balance in a game like this will never ever exist. Way too many skills, tweak one and it makes it stronger than another skill. Nerf one and it hurts others. Its just to complicated to expect perfect balance. Perfect balance would only be possible if they did away with every skill except one and everyone had to use it.

Anyways..........

I think Anet has made a high quality product that has given me years of ongoing entertainment and fun. They do more for its community of players than most companies. Hell, Most companies don't do jack nor sqwat for their players. This is one company I will continue to buy games from safe in the knowledge that I am going to have a blast, see incredible scenery, have a plethora of skills to chose from, have a blast at Festivals and Events, and so on and so on.

Thanks Anet.

Dr.Jones

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30 Jul 2008 at 19:26 - 90

if gw1 and the sport and lack of patches and new content that we are getting now is any indication of what gw2 will be like then no.

Abedeus

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30 Jul 2008 at 19:39 - 91

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Name one RPG where there is not some sort of grind.

Guild Wars: Prophecies, Guild Wars: Factions. There you go.

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overpowered by someone.

I think you confused overpowered with ABUSED. Because there always are abused builds with all games, wherever and whenever. Hammeradins in Diablo 2, crit scythe clerics in NwN, snipers in Enemy Territory (abused = CAMP THE HELL OUT OF THEM AND NOT HELP TEAM WITH SMOKE GRENADES), critlock assassins in Ragnarok, rouges in WoW, God Knows What in Hello Kitty Online Adventure. But there should NOT be an overpowered build that is stronger than anything else or is as strong, requiring a lot less skill or none.

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Hell, Most companies don't do jack nor sqwat for their players.

Probably that's why A.Net doesn't have an official forum.

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have a plethora of skills to chose from

[Ursan Blessing], [Resurrection Signet], [Healer's Boon], [Glyph of Lesser Energy], [Heal Party], [Ethereal Light]. That's a lot of skills.

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Thanks Anet.

Why so little? I'd say ,,Thank you almighty A.Net, for not caring about players, Overlords of poor community relations, Archbishops of the Church of Ignoring Druids, Masters of Tardiness and Slowness''. For me, it's a company that made 2 great games, 1 good and 1 average that almost cancelled out the good things about previous ones.

Snow Bunny

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30 Jul 2008 at 19:43 - 92

Abedeus if you do not buy GW2 and play with me I will go to Europe and hunt you down.

munky

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30 Jul 2008 at 20:36 - 93

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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

if gw1 and the sport and lack of patches and new content that we are getting now is any indication of what gw2 will be like then no.

its always funny to me to see stuff like this. they are working on a new game, not a new expansion. and thus need the hole team of programmers not half, like they were doing in the old system of makeing two games at once.

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

I think I've mentioned in a couple of places that right now there are pretty tight restrictions on requests for programmer time for GW1 work. We currently do have one programmer working on GW1, but he's knee-deep in other GW1 projects that are due with the next build.

with only one programmer left behind for what i am guessing is bug fixes and small updates every mouth of three, asking for new content and complaining when it dosen't happen seems kinda unreasonable.

and really would you rather have them get gw2 out sooner, or try to fix gw1 to every players wants, only to have people get trough the new content, then complain about needing more to hold them over till gw2, which at that point is pushed back to 2013.

Riceboi

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30 Jul 2008 at 22:26 - 94

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Originally Posted by Redrocket

I will not move on to GW2 because of all the whiners this game has. I have never seen so many people cry over PVE skills. I mean do you actually NOT want to enjoy this game? Do you want it to be so hard it’s not enjoyable? I like playing THROUGH the game. If you think a skill is broken don’t use it. If you want the game to be a challenge, don’t use a certain skill, bring a different group, play in HM, etc....so NO I’m not moving on and I have pretty much stopped play GW because of the ridiculous nerfs.

Agreed and I hope GW 2 fails.

DIABLO 3...

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30 Jul 2008 at 22:33 - 95

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Originally Posted by Riceboi

Agreed and I hope GW 2 fails.

DIABLO 3...

You may hope it will fail but there are millions who still enjoy it and are looking forward to the sequel so it's not fair for you to hope it fails just because you don't want to play it. Go ahead and play Diablo 3, but some want to play Guild Wars 2. So just because you don't want to play it and hope it fails doesn't mean the rest of us have to suffer.

Dr.Jones

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31 Jul 2008 at 05:17 - 96

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Originally Posted by munky

its always funny to me to see stuff like this. they are working on a new game, not a new expansion. and thus need the hole team of programmers not half, like they were doing in the old system of makeing two games at once.

thats my point based on gw1, gw2 will be grand for the first part and then they will go make gw2 expansion. and leave little to no suport for the game.

munky

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31 Jul 2008 at 05:36 - 97

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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

thats my point based on gw1, gw2 will be grand for the first part and then they will go make gw2 expansion. and leave little to no suport for the game.

so your saying even in the start of factions that gw1 had "little to no support"?
i'd say that's where its at now, but expansions and new games are two different things.

or by gw2 expansion do you mean gw3? which i'd say if it ever happened, its a long way off, why worry about it.

Dr Strangelove

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31 Jul 2008 at 06:19 - 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riceboi

Agreed and I hope GW 2 fails.

DIABLO 3...

It must suck to only be able to play one game every 3 years.

RitGal

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31 Jul 2008 at 15:14 - 99

Will I buy/play GW2?

Probably not.

Being a 'mature' gamer, I'd like to stick with a game where 'l33t speak' isn't wanted or tollerated.

While I intially liked the idea of a no monthly fee game, I've found that it has the tendency to attract anybody and everybody. Hand that griefer-kid a game to shut him up. and let him/her be an ass to a gaming community. No thanks.

And, paying per month usually ads to the quality and upgrades to the game. Not always, but usually.

While I can't say for sure, after all we are talking about something that's not even coming out for a couple of years at least... right now I say naw, not interested in GW2.

imnotyourmother

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31 Jul 2008 at 16:15 - 100

well as I see it there will always be a demand for Guild Wars 1.

I am sure that AN will put enough good stuff into GW2 to make getting those 3 year titles worth while.

I am currently getting the LDoA title on a war and then I will move on from there. Also they are making the titles account based so that You ca see all of the titles on an account so that is good since LDoA and Survivor are mutually exclusive.

I am sure that I will be getting gw2 as there will be some things that are fantastic about the game when it first comes out. I will not make the mistake of deleting some of the stuff that I have gotten in gw1 that is for sure.

So bring it on

N1ghtstalker

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31 Jul 2008 at 16:17 - 101

if it's a grinding game like now i'll just buy me and PS3 game instead

aaje vhanli

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31 Jul 2008 at 16:27 - 102

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Originally Posted by RitGal

While I intially liked the idea of a no monthly fee game, I've found that it has the tendency to attract anybody and everybody. Hand that griefer-kid a game to shut him up. and let him/her be an ass to a gaming community. No thanks.

Not true. I have played many MMOs that have monthly fees and they attract the same "anybody and everybody."

bookworm438

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31 Jul 2008 at 16:27 - 103

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Originally Posted by munky

its always funny to me to see stuff like this. they are working on a new game, not a new expansion. and thus need the hole team of programmers not half, like they were doing in the old system of makeing two games at once.

Well yeah making a NEW game with an entirely new game engine will take a lot of programmers, developers, etc. As I said before, when GW2 gets to a point where it doesn't need many developers, there will be more going onto GW1.

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Originally Posted by munky

and really would you rather have them get gw2 out sooner, or try to fix gw1 to every players wants, only to have people get trough the new content, then complain about needing more to hold them over till gw2, which at that point is pushed back to 2013.

If they don't get GW2 out in a few years Anet will probably go out of business. I'd rather them have nearly all their team on GW2 to get that out sooner, but not to the point where it'll be all buggy and not fun.

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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

thats my point based on gw1, gw2 will be grand for the first part and then they will go make gw2 expansion. and leave little to no suport for the game.

Making an expansion is different than an actual game. With an expansion you already have the base for it done, you don't have to recode the game engine. You only have to come up with new content. That will take less developers than an entirely new game.

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Originally Posted by Riceboi

Agreed and I hope GW 2 fails.

DIABLO 3...

O.O Wow you are hoping GW2 fails because you don't like GW1. Seriously if you don't like GW games stop playing. No one is forcing you to play. There are people that actually are looking forward to GW2. I know I'm looking forward to GW2. BTW don't use the excuse 'I don't want to' or 'I can't find anything else like GW', otherwise stop complaining. (I'm not saying don't criticize, I'm saying don't complain. Small criticism is good, complaining gets very annoying. Criticism = helps Anet learn where they can improve. Complaining = Annoying as hell.)

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

Also they are making the titles account based so that You ca see all of the titles on an account so that is good since LDoA and Survivor are mutually exclusive.

They are making the titles in the HoM account based or character based based on your preferences. They aren't making the titles on your actual character account based. So you get r10 norn on character 1, you won't have r10 on any other character. It'll only show up in your HoM that you achieved r10 on your account. Your actual characters it won't show up in the heroes panel, just the HoM.

hurdlebeast

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31 Jul 2008 at 17:50 - 104

Rather than post all my ideas on here, I made a new thread, with a proposed solution. check it

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...08#post4155808

Miss Puddles

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31 Jul 2008 at 18:31 - 105

i'm getting gw2. i'm excited to see what improvements made the cut and what aspects will remain the same.

MithranArkanere

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31 Jul 2008 at 19:49 - 106

Of course! As soon as I:
- Get a better machine.
- Get all character with all titles (except PvP ones) maxed, owning all skills, having all outpost unlocked, etc...
- If Diablo III comes before GW, after I'm done with Diablo III.

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31 Jul 2008 at 20:03 - 107

I guess i have posted already but again. No i don't think i'm moving to GW2. Why? GW1 has been screw'd up and by the time there's much more interesting products coming out. Diablo 3, hopefully DarkFall.

Lawnmower

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31 Jul 2008 at 20:13 - 108

Diablo 3 is Isometric view only and mouse click movement only. Epic fail.

They do this so it wont compete in the same marked with WoW. I can see why it makes sense, but it kills any anticipation I had for the game. lol...

Not only that but you cant even design your own character. You have to choose one of the pre excisting ones. Completely retarded.

Master Mayhem

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31 Jul 2008 at 20:16 - 109

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Abedeus

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31 Jul 2008 at 20:18 - 110

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower

Diablo 3 is Isometric view only and mouse click movement only. Epic fail.

They do this so it wont compete in the same marked with WoW. I can see why it makes sense, but it kills any anticipation I had for the game. lol...

Not only that but you cant even design your own character. You have to choose one of the pre excisting ones. Completely retarded.

Fail less plz. If you care more about customizing characters rather than fun gameplay, go play Sims: World of Addoncraft. Second release.

And find me a HnS (not RPG) with WORKING wsad. None. Because isometric view + mouse is the best way to play hns.

munky

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31 Jul 2008 at 21:20 - 111

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Originally Posted by bookworm438

Well yeah making a NEW game with an entirely new game engine will take a lot of programmers, developers, etc. As I said before, when GW2 gets to a point where it doesn't need many developers, there will be more going onto GW1.

think i saw someone here say it before, can people not accept that gw1 might not get "as much attention as before", at least till gw2 is fully done, to get all games its around 170$ can people not accept that spending that 170, or whatever you paid, dose not give you share to the company, it dose not give you a right to say, "work on this game not the one you want to get done as soon as you can with as few bugs as possible."

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Originally Posted by bookworm438

If they don't get GW2 out in a few years Anet will probably go out of business. I'd rather them have nearly all their team on GW2 to get that out sooner, but not to the point where it'll be all buggy and not fun.

1. if people get sick of guild wars, but still want to play guild wars 2, then move on to something els, heck go get something done in real life. you can always just pick up a copy of gw2 when it comes out and not be at any significant disadvantage.

and if we have them working too much on gw1 and gw2, then there will most likely be either a later release date for gw2, or more bugs in gw2.

bookworm438

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31 Jul 2008 at 21:55 - 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by munky

1. if people get sick of guild wars, but still want to play guild wars 2, then move on to something els, heck go get something done in real life. you can always just pick up a copy of gw2 when it comes out and not be at any significant disadvantage.

I was saying I'd rather most of their team work on GW2 so it won't be as buggy and not fun, but also out soon enough to where Anet doesn't go out of business. They probably have some money coming in from NCSoft, but probably NCSoft won't be willing to help sustain them forever. I'm not saying I'm completely bored and tired of GW1 that I'm complaining about it.
I know that people will no doubt hear about GW2 when Anet releases some new information. It'll be like a virus. One gaming site has a bit of new information on it, next thing you know all gaming sites have something on it.

AJD

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31 Jul 2008 at 22:14 - 113

In a word? Yes.

Alex the Great

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31 Jul 2008 at 22:18 - 114

yes

12charsruelsux

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31 Jul 2008 at 23:55 - 115

Yes I'm actually moving to GW2 as soon as I get "GWAMM" and play some elitism PvP hardcore.

Tingi

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01 Aug 2008 at 01:13 - 116

Yes, I'm getting Guild Wars 2.

However, I'm much more excited about Diablo 3

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Bowstring Badass

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Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

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01 Aug 2008 at 01:17 - 117

Maybe.

Only if it doesn't suck as much as anet has made gw1.

vaxmor

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01 Aug 2008 at 02:13 - 118

I wont just buy GW:2, Im going to preorder the CE edition and count the hours till GW2 goes live.

Angie Dulour

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01 Aug 2008 at 04:53 - 119

I bet Anet still have a lot of good new idea.

But! they save it all for GW2 to blow you away that is why all the new expansion on GW1 are so lame. I stop played for 13 months because its so boring after u hit the peak and what else to do except grinding for title...

After returning for 13 months vecation what did i learn? nothing new except a huge price drop on rare item and people hunt new item from the new expansion. wow~~ so new.......

so... GW1 will probably never get better than this but i belive GW2 will be at the very least... worth a few cash from me. A 1 time pay and beable to play forever that is always a good deal to me. even though i dont even play it.

Lady Lozza

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01 Aug 2008 at 05:26 - 120

Depends greatly. If it is going to be a generic MMO, grind for infinite levels for health and mana, then probably not. I'll go back to L2, actually I'm kinda itching to go back to playing it anyway despite the fact that it has nearly everything I hate about MMOs, but anyway...

I like GW because it is different. Is it perfect, no. I hope GW2 will continue to be different. But then there is always TCOS if it ever comes out :S