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Sir Seifus Halbred

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

30 Aug 2008 at 22:35 - 161

If the keep the lack of info and updates up (like they are now) then no I won't be getting GW 2...

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

It won't, I can assure you. So can 1 mln people that are getting pre-orders.

Really you can go into the future and see this? WOW COOL!

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Oh, and I'd rather pay $15 each month for Warhammer Online than $50 for GW2.

And Warhammer Online isn't going to be $50? Plus add up all the fees of $15 per month.

Clarissa F

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fighters of the Shiverpeaks

Me/Mo

30 Aug 2008 at 22:52 - 162

I can bet a lot of the same people that said AoC was the next great game are the same ones jumping on the WAR bandwagon. You will never know how successful an MMO will be until about a year down the road. One million pre-orders? That many beta tested the game and based their orders on that, eh? Didn't think so. The vast majority pre-ordered WAR for the same reason they did AoC and Hellgate(biggest game to open in Korea...lawls): hype. They showed some pretty pics and vids, and everyone ooo!'s and Ahhhh!'s and jumps on the bandwagon. War does have a good pedigree, but following the last few games to fall off the hype train, I'd wait a while before joining up on this one.

The good thing about these games is it makes me appreciate what they have done with GW. I'll probably wait a bit, but if they do what they did with this game, I'll get GW2. Just not on opening day.

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

30 Aug 2008 at 23:58 - 163

Many people pre-ordered war for the beta then canceled their order. The on million doesn't mean jack.

GW2 is still being made, there's no fing way to know if I'll get or not cause I don't know what it's going to be like and I sure as hell don't know what I'll be doing irl a year from now.

Might as well close this and make a gw2 discussion thread, though there probably already is one and this is just a poor excuse for farming +1s.

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

31 Aug 2008 at 00:17 - 164

I'll read reviews and then decide if it's worth the money. I can't even remember how many MMOs have tried and failed over the past few years.

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

31 Aug 2008 at 00:26 - 165

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Originally Posted by maraxusofk

i wont play gw2 because it is clear so far that anet has lost sight of what made their original game great. the game is looking like a generic mmo at this point, with a huge grindy lvl cap (100 or even no cap) and a update team that is out of touch. i dont even play gw1 anymore, but i check updates from time to time. all the skill updates have been ridiculous, with skill changes that are made as a band-aid over the problem builds instead of addressing the fundamental problems inherent in the system.

in addition, gw2 will NEVER feel new again. for those of you who have played this game for a long long time since the beginning, how many of you can say that when u play gw2, u wont have alot of ur friends who u met online playing as well? the joy of the original gw was going out and meeting new ppl thru missions (which you coudlnt simply solo wit henchies or heroes) or doing pvp. gw2 is gonna attract mostly veterans of gw1, and that just doesnt excite me very much.

so yeah. hell i can be wrong, if anet manages to bring back the spirit of the very first gw before nightfall came ill defintely buy. at this point, that seems highly unlikely though.

- Quoted for truth!

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

31 Aug 2008 at 00:35 - 166

"the game is looking like a generic mmo at this point, with a huge grindy lvl cap (100 or even no cap) "

This is one of the main things that concerns me. From all I've read so far, that's just the direction things seem to be going - another run-of-the-mill mmo game, nothing along continuing the uniquness of GW1. Makes me sad. But all in all, I intend to wait and make a final desicion once I actually see it.

The Lost Explorer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

[AvA]

Rt/

31 Aug 2008 at 00:45 - 167

I'm sure that level cap isn't going to happen as for buying GW2 yeah i'll most likly get it but not sure if i wont be busy doing real life junk thats more important

Elusive of SoLD

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

England

SoLD

Mo/Me

31 Aug 2008 at 01:01 - 168

I will move to GW2, but I will no way whatsoever grind any more titles like i am doing in GW1 atm

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

31 Aug 2008 at 01:17 - 169

Based on the information we currently have for GW2, and where my life is at right now, I don't foresee myself getting the game.

The statement that almost the whole game can be completed solo is a huge turn-off. Age of Conan was the same way, and it was boring as all hell. You didn't need to play with anyone else to level up and beat the game. At least with GW1, you could outfit heroes with skill bars, or choose henchies to best complement your builds & strategies.

I also enjoyed the level cap in GW1. Even when you hit level 20, there was more to do. Some people really enjoy pointlessly grinding levels - most of those folk have probably played and enjoyed WoW.

The game looks like it's setting itself up to be a free version of WoW with some slightly better features, and to draw the monthly subscribers of other games to this game. Perhaps aNet is losing sight of what it stood for to better fill their own pockets. Sell-outs! I'll still keep an eye out, though. If the reviews are exceptional, I might consider it.

itsvictor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

31 Aug 2008 at 01:28 - 170

I'll watch the reviews before I get it and see how much of the community goes over to GW2. However at this point in time, I'd say no and I'm more inclined to get D3 and/or Starcraft 2...

Monk Gsb

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

England

Mo/Me

31 Aug 2008 at 01:55 - 171

war open beta starts the 7th of september, with live game headstart the 14th.

i have already more or less stoped playing gw's and with anets lack of support during the "dieing" days of gw's (since they took away andrew partick and co.) im defenatly not going to buy gw's2 untill it gets to what gw's 1 cost me (£10) meaning after the 1st year, and then tbh i will prolly be so into war that i just wont bother.

yea i would rather pay £60 for the war ce preorder + £8.99 a month, so over 1 year the game will have cost me. £158.89 = £60 + (£8.99x11) (you get 1 month free) and then as soon as d3 comes out i'll just play both

. but no never ever buying another anet /ncsoft game.

Innocent

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

31 Aug 2008 at 02:08 - 172

IF I CAN GRIND A LOT OF CHARR YES!

But seriously. If ANet actually works on the competitive side of the game, makes it accessible to third party tournaments, and actually do some good, then it will be something to look forward to. Once I was done with GW's pve, it was pvp that kept me playing the game.

So far, I'm leaning towards a "no" but I would be willing to try the game out before I pass a final judgment.

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

31 Aug 2008 at 02:45 - 173

Maybe GW2, depends on what GW2 turns out to be, whether it is the sort of game that will be fun for me.

I was away from GW for a year. Came back and it is fun again. Relaxation, fun, the only reasons I play anything.

Doctor of Rocks

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Crimson Knighthood

Mo/D

31 Aug 2008 at 03:46 - 174

With such tight lips on what is even being done with GW2 now, I'm not sure I even care anymore. Beta was targeted for summer of 08, and while I totally understand the pushback (really, what public beta ever is released on time?), what I don't understand is why there is such a lack of updated news. I know nothing more about GW2 today than I did when it was announced.

The tight lips combined with a lot of design changes that moved GW away from the originality it once had make me wary about GW2. At the moment I think I will give it a try, but it's going to take a lot of fixing of current mechanics to win me over.

Nessar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

West Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide

Gwen Has A Thing For [Pyre]

31 Aug 2008 at 03:49 - 175

Once GW2 comes out, I'm getting it. No matter what people say. I want to try it out for myself. I'm sure Anet learned from their mistakes and are making things in GW2 x10 better. I really want to try to pvp of GW2 also.
If its a waste of $50, oh well. If not, then yay ^^

I'm prolly gonna abandon GW, since all my friends are going to be moving onto GW2

blackknight1337

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Mo/

31 Aug 2008 at 05:34 - 176

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Originally Posted by Illfated Fat

Based on the information we currently have for GW2, and where my life is at right now, I don't foresee myself getting the game.

The statement that almost the whole game can be completed solo is a huge turn-off. Age of Conan was the same way, and it was boring as all hell. You didn't need to play with anyone else to level up and beat the game. At least with GW1, you could outfit heroes with skill bars, or choose henchies to best complement your builds & strategies.

I also enjoyed the level cap in GW1. Even when you hit level 20, there was more to do. Some people really enjoy pointlessly grinding levels - most of those folk have probably played and enjoyed WoW.

The game looks like it's setting itself up to be a free version of WoW with some slightly better features, and to draw the monthly subscribers of other games to this game. Perhaps aNet is losing sight of what it stood for to better fill their own pockets. Sell-outs! I'll still keep an eye out, though. If the reviews are exceptional, I might consider it.

Don't think I could say it better. There are dozens of games out there where solo is everything, I enjoyed and still am happy with the ability to personalize your team to the extent that you can in GW, and where victory doesn't reside in whats on your bar. Personalizing 4 bars and picking 4 more preset ones to give yourself a unique approach is probably the main reason I made it through vanquishing.

The level cap made it to where your ingenuity with builds/skill with using them made you good at the game, not the fact that you grinded to level 70 or w/e.

As Jenn says, Arenanet looks to be demonstrating again that all they care about is money from what has been released of gw2, and as such, I don't see myself wasting more time/money on their future products. If the game comes out and actually is worth a crap, I'll probably buy it, knowing that i can dump it and not worry about subscriptions.

And finally, when it comes out in 2 years, I likely will have more/better commitments of my time than to a video game. Already have been spending more time on other and better things than gw, and it definitly is for the better.

Remember people, Real life > video games.

Innocent

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

31 Aug 2008 at 06:07 - 177

Guild Wars Is Life.

AKB48

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2008

みやき町

Mo/A

31 Aug 2008 at 06:38 - 178

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Originally Posted by Innocent

Guild Wars Is Life.

Your life maybe? Because it certainly isn't mine.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

31 Aug 2008 at 06:52 - 179

I just moved on to Diablo 2 (or should I say, moved back, as I haven't played it in years). I have to say, compared to D2, GW2 would most likely be a downgrade

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

31 Aug 2008 at 15:52 - 180

I will buy GW2 but idk if i will play it much...
i should have a new computer by then =)

Koudelka

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

England

The Khaotic Empire (TKE)

Me/Mo

31 Aug 2008 at 16:31 - 181

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Originally Posted by Rexion

I'm debating.
If it comes out around my college years (class of 2010. junior this upcoming year), then I will be either not playing MMOs in general or I'll be playing the biggest thing out there (possibly WoW). We'll have to see.
Ursan has killed my outlook on GW. One of my guild officers is trying to force the usage of the classic Team Builds for some elite areas instead of just mindlessly using Ursan. I'm worried to see PvE fall like it did.

I might take a leave from Guild Wars right now to start my career on YouTube and such. Laugh all you want at that - it's my life. Then I will come back around beta time and such. I'm bored as it is trying to get to where I can have fun, but it isn't worth it to put so much work into a game. I'd rather just not play than work on a game that really doesn't mean much to real-life.

I guess I'll just see in time.
I just wish that GW was like it was 2 years ago... but you can't bring back the past.

Youtube career...

Reminds me of Mark Potts.

OT: I want to say yes, but I can't say for certain as none of us are certain what the future holds for GW or indeed myself. I might not even be alive when this comes out... : P

Innocent

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

31 Aug 2008 at 17:40 - 182

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Originally Posted by AKB48

Your life maybe? Because it certainly isn't mine.

I'm sorry, should I mark sarcasm with flags?

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Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

31 Aug 2008 at 17:56 - 183

GW2 will need to come up with something that makes it more compelling than D3, Aion, or Warhammer.

The main problem I have with GW is that it's completely half-assed; it tries to cover several design concepts and ends up doing everything poorly. It's not a "skill > time" game anymore because of everything you can grind for - things that give tangible benefits. At the same time, it doesn't have the great rewards that many grinding games offer - no epic abilities or l33t l00tz. Similarly, the mechanics are just complicated enough that it's not an casual button-masher like Diablo has historically been, but it also doesn't have any top-end PvE difficulty due to PvE skills and consumables. In short, they've gotten pretty much all of PvE exactly wrong.

Ultimately, I'm more likely to go with D3 because I have more faith in the team's ability to deliver what I'm expecting - rather than the Anet team, which seems to have all the design direction of a headless chicken. Aion gets my vote because it's a game geared specifically towards pure cool - something that GW has always failed at.

bryann380

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Mo/

31 Aug 2008 at 17:57 - 184

I'll definitely be on GW2, no matter what... unless something in RL prevents me from doing so.

Miraculix B.

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

in my kingdom cold

31 Aug 2008 at 19:30 - 185

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Originally Posted by bryann380

I'll definitely be on GW2, no matter what... unless something in RL prevents me from doing so.

same here.
12char

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

N/

31 Aug 2008 at 21:35 - 186

depends on how the reviews go. If they mess it up obviously not, otherwise sure. Wont be pre ordering it though.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

31 Aug 2008 at 21:50 - 187

If it's fun then yeah I'll definitely play it.

Don't see how you can "move on", though. Games are toys.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

31 Aug 2008 at 22:44 - 188

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryann380

I'll definitely be on GW2, no matter what... unless something in RL prevents me from doing so.

Like Death?

Can't see much else stopping us really

Sir Seifus Halbred

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

31 Aug 2008 at 22:54 - 189

Guild Wars WAS good once before. It was different compared to other online games out there and it was fun....

Unfortunately that changed with the release of Factions and so on...

I miss the time when it was only prophecies...

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

31 Aug 2008 at 22:59 - 190

If it was still only Prophecies, many people here would've stopped a whole lot sooner.

But I do agree that there were quite a few changes the game could do without.

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

01 Sep 2008 at 01:52 - 191

Yeah I'll be playing well atleast I plan to but right now its Warhammer Online, Dragon Age and Diablo 3 is on the future menu.

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

01 Sep 2008 at 01:55 - 192

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burst Cancel

Aion gets my vote because it's a game geared specifically towards pure cool - something that GW has always failed at.

Aion is an entirely Korean project and hence will share Asian MMORPG sensibilities. Hope you love level and equipment treadmills.

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

01 Sep 2008 at 04:37 - 193

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Originally Posted by Esan

Aion is an entirely Korean project and hence will share Asian MMORPG sensibilities. Hope you love level and equipment treadmills.

Oh, I know what to expect; I've been through several Korean grindmachines. As I pointed out above though, grind in Asian MMOs actually gets you some pretty cool shit. Grind in GW gets you a dumb title, or squeezes out a few percentage points of effectiveness.

AKB48

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2008

みやき町

Mo/A

01 Sep 2008 at 05:16 - 194

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Originally Posted by Innocent

I'm sorry, should I mark sarcasm with flags?

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That'd be a good idea

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

01 Sep 2008 at 05:39 - 195

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burst Cancel

Oh, I know what to expect; I've been through several Korean grindmachines. As I pointed out above though, grind in Asian MMOs actually gets you some pretty cool shit. Grind in GW gets you a dumb title, or squeezes out a few percentage points of effectiveness.

The only problem with that "cool shit" is that there's very little variation as compared to other Korean MMO's, free-to-play and otherwise. They all seem to share a very Lineage-ish look.

At least the graphics in Aion are pretty jammin'.

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

01 Sep 2008 at 07:21 - 196

Yes, very likely. My interest in GW1 starts to drop after an astonishing 3000+ hours. It is time for me to move on.

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

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W/

01 Sep 2008 at 07:24 - 197

I'll be working full time, earning (hopefully) good money. I'm thinking that if GW2 sucks, I'll play a game that I know won't. So if there's a pay-to-play game that everyone is raving about I'm definitely gonna jump on that bandwagon.

I suppose I will try it, but if the alpha/beta sounds like it's bad, I'm not wasting my money.

jenstone

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

01 Sep 2008 at 08:16 - 198

Yes I will. Mainly to see what the hype will be all about.
Will it be a waste of money? Or time? Not sure, but I am curious to see what the development team has up its sleeve.
Am I looking forward to it, no, not really. I enjoy GW1 a lot at this point, so, don't really need a competing game.

Metal Herc

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

01 Sep 2008 at 08:35 - 199

I will buy GW2. But whether or not I play it depends on how it turns out. It had better capture the feeling I got of playing GW in the first few months. But seeing the way Anet has been taking things, I really doubt GW2 will be a game I will be playing.

The original GW idea of an introductory PVE story that leads to PVP and GVG action is what drew me to the game. I have seen that take a huge backseat over the years. If GW2 continues on that path I won't bother with it.

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

01 Sep 2008 at 09:00 - 200

Definitely.

It's non-subscription hence I'd be a fool to say no.

Initially I maybe occupied on other MMO's but I know that at some stage I'll buy it and catch up with my GW1 buds.I won't be prioritizing it though, probably get it 6 months to a year after release me thinks and avoid all the HoM qq.