Are you going to move on to GW2?

Scary

Scary

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Uhmmmm??

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bryann380
I'll definitely be on GW2, no matter what... unless something in RL prevents me from doing so.
Yep wel spoken....

And I might have a look at D3

Unreal Havoc

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Join Date: Dec 2007

I'll probably move over to GW2 at some point, but I'm in no rush to do so.

I think I'll wait 6 months or so before I move over.

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

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Join Date: Apr 2008

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I would like to stay in GW1 as long as possible however if time allows I would join GW2 and see how the events continued.

Highlander Of Alba

Highlander Of Alba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Real Rogue Clan

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Well will add

will def move onto guild wars2

With the added advantage to pop back over to 1 for some play also

I think anet is doing a good job at the moment (allbeit the nerfs ,AI, ect)

They gave you a good run for your money .who else has done this for money spent, nobody!..

I have purchased slots mainly cause like my guy/gal rather than reroll it
never farmed and have enjoyed it ..

So roll on Beta and hope I get a chance to play it before release

Sjeng

Sjeng

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Join Date: Aug 2005

in my GH

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I think Anet has definately done some strange things in the past. Some changes I disliked, some I loved. I think it's good they listen to the community, but it would have been better if they did things better right away. That's pretty hard to do obviously with a world-wide community with different opinions. But I think GW1 is still a fantastic game to play, and Anet has learned much (I hope).
I'm confident GW2 will be better than GW1, and I'm looking forward to it, especially the new aspects such as the continuous world. I wonder how they will deal with stuff like quests failing due to some random person running along and getting some NPC killed because of aggroing mobs you're trying to avoid... Loot should still be automatically assigned, that's just a great system. Let's just hope there will be no "protect this NPC" quests anymore, and that other NPC's won't get attacked by mobs. That's probably the one thing I hate about GW1: missions/quests failing because some NPC died. GAH!!!

I'm planning on buying GW2 for sure! And I'm taking my guild with me ^^ And i'm going to take my time exploring and doing quests. I shall not rush! If that makes me the last guy in my guild to reach the end, I don't care.

and to the OP: I'm aiming for GWAMM, and filling my HoM. And I probably won't make it before GW2 comes out lol.

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

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Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
The only problem with that "cool shit" is that there's very little variation as compared to other Korean MMO's, free-to-play and otherwise. They all seem to share a very Lineage-ish look.
Provided you're not constantly playing games that are similar to begin with, this shouldn't be much of a problem. I mean, Mabinogi, RF Online, and Ragnarok are starkly dissimilar from each other.

My point about "cool shit", though, extends beyond just shinies. It also includes real character building, like doing 6-digit damage or one-hit killing boss monsters (see: Disgaea). As I said, GW managed to half-ass the whole thing: there's grind, but the grind doesn't get you great returns - yet at the same time, maxers still have to grind for those few percentage points or extra seconds of duration.

Ultimately, the biggest knock against GW2 is how Anet handled GW1. They've shown themselves to be inconsistent and directionless - not knowing what they actually want to do with the game, and not knowing how to execute even when they do. They've taken great ideas and squandered them. So even if GW2 looks good at beta, what are the odds that it will still be any good at six months or two years?

own age myname

own age myname

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Minnesota

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I'll probably buy it. But I might be occupied by Aion though.

JeniM

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Join Date: May 2007

W/E

I'll wait till the price drops. I'll have more important things to think about when it comes out (2010) and I personally think it'll be nothing like the game I loved in Guild Wars 1

Paloma Song

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Join Date: Apr 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Highlander Of Alba
They gave you a good run for your money .who else has done this for money spent, nobody!..
This is really the only thing that sways me back into the realm of checking GW2 out. In general, I'm not impressed with the way GW1 started shifting (into the typical MMO-grind zone) and I'm turned off by promises of more of the same in GW2. But the lack of a fee means that I don't have to invest much to keep trying it out, unlike standard games, and I'm willing to accept less quality in return. Overall, the question seems to be a false dichotomy - if the servers are going for both GW1 and GW2, and there's no fee for either, I don't see any need to choose, not when I can play both at any time.

wetsparks

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Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeniM
I'll wait till the price drops. I'll have more important things to think about when it comes out (2010) and I personally think it'll be nothing like the game I loved in Guild Wars 1
Of course it isn't going to be like GW1. Otherwise they would just keep adding on expansions to GW1.

And when it comes out next year I will definitely be getting the game. Arena Net has done very well with GW1 and I see no reason why they can't continue their success into GW2. Besides, I will probably have grown bored with Starcraft 2, Spore, Left 4 Dead, Dragon Age: Origins and whatever other great games are coming out this fall and into next spring and will be needing a break of them for a while so that I can come back to them refreshed later.

Edit: BTW, I know people on this forum like to complain that Guild Wars has "changed" and how they don't like the changes, but I personally think that it is the person that has changed more than the game. I know that since I started playing over two years ago I have certainly changed and thus I don't play nearly as much as I used to. My play time is pretty much weekend events that interest me, that doesn't make GW all of a sudden a bad game just because I don't play much anymore.

illidan009

illidan009

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Probably...but it all depends on the beta I guess. As for GW1, I'm faaaaaaaaaaaaar from completing it, don't have a single maxed title lawl.

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

I plan on moving to Diablo 3 or Guild Wars 2 when they're released. I did everything Guild Wars had to offer and want something new.

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

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I didn't deck out my HoM for fun (especially the useless destroyer weaps). So I'll definately give GW2 a go. Whether I stay or not will depend on how good a game GW2 is.

Also looking forward to Diablo 3 and Dawn of War 2 so there may be some comp for my time.

Stockholm

Stockholm

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Will have to see how A-Net is acting during the time to GW2 release, if they continue to favor the minority of the player base as they have done so far, I and the majority of my friends in GW will pass on the next game.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burst Cancel
Provided you're not constantly playing games that are similar to begin with, this shouldn't be much of a problem. I mean, Mabinogi, RF Online, and Ragnarok are starkly dissimilar from each other.

My point about "cool shit", though, extends beyond just shinies. It also includes real character building, like doing 6-digit damage or one-hit killing boss monsters (see: Disgaea). As I said, GW managed to half-ass the whole thing: there's grind, but the grind doesn't get you great returns - yet at the same time, maxers still have to grind for those few percentage points or extra seconds of duration.

Ultimately, the biggest knock against GW2 is how Anet handled GW1. They've shown themselves to be inconsistent and directionless - not knowing what they actually want to do with the game, and not knowing how to execute even when they do. They've taken great ideas and squandered them. So even if GW2 looks good at beta, what are the odds that it will still be any good at six months or two years?
Fortunately, not all copy L2's look. Quite a few do, however. Silkroad, Requiem, and Aion are a few that come to mind.

Not sure about the comment regarding "real character building", though. I don't find GW's build system to be shallow in any aspect whatsoever. It just doesn't follow in the reins of your normal RPG. A month ago I'd be with you on the grind, but with the recent updates coupled with the amount of time it takes to max those titles I no longer find the issue terribly upsetting. These days, it sounds like ANet's saying "sure, you can grind your ass off, but don't expect much in return".

In terms of how they've treated their game, I'm pretty with you on that. I am pretty upset with how ANet treated their game, but recent changes has things looking a bit for the better. However, I feel that if anything they've learned a lot from GW1, and that we shouldn't be seeing as much "what the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO" in GW2.

viper11025

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Join Date: Mar 2007

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Originally Posted by I MP I
Depends on how the GW2 beta goes.
Don't flame me for this but, there won't be a beta unless something magicly changes Izzys mind or someone else.
Right now I think its a BAD IDEA to release ANY informantion on gw2's development because of WAR, and WOW:LoTLK.
They are out to sell a game to more people, not just the fans they have already......trust me.
If they release a video or trailer after WOW:LoTLK that's not a bad idea.

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

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Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by viper11025
Don't flame me for this but, there won't be a beta unless something magicly changes Izzys mind or someone else.
Right now I think its a BAD IDEA to release ANY informantion on gw2's development because of WAR, and WOW:LoTLK.
They are out to sell a game to more people, not just the fans they have already......trust me.
If they release a video or trailer after WOW:LoTLK that's not a bad idea.
Uhhm Anet have said themselves there will be a beta close to the release date.

Numa Pompilius

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Join Date: May 2005

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No, I probably wont.

I'll reserve final judgment until it's out, but everything I hear about GW2 (forced grouping, no heroes/henches just one "sidekick", increased grind, persistent world), as well as the direction GW1's been taking for the last 1.5 years, makes me think that it's not a game I want to play.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

More "grind" is good for me. If only because vanilla GW pvp is too much of a pain to be fun. I hope there will be lots of aspenwoodish gameplay. On steriods.

I never really got why people tought the basic GW from the beginning was so incredible. You get bored with it after a week because once you got your character trough the game, there was nothing worth coming back for. Exept the repetitive pvp wich is FAR more of a grind then any vanquishing because it has the same builds in the same arenas again and again.

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

With the number of MMORPG released recently that did not live up to the hype created by the company I am kind of glade that ANET is not releasing any information at this time. The fact that several of these company have and continue to lie to their customers tells me who is really in charge now. I so hope ANET / NCSoft don't go down this path. I want a quality product where the publisher is hands off.

I also expect they are keeping silent as not to compete with other titles being released by NCSoft.

When the time comes I will evaluate GW2 based on it own merits as a new game and decide to buy or not buy as an informed customer. Being forced to play with other people is a deal breaker for me.

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

in a house

The Knitters Guild

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We all know that people are going to move to Guild Wars 2. The only incentive that there is to buy GW1 any chapter + GW:EN is that of a "Transference" of "Something" "Maybe Good" to the GW2.

It will be interesting to be a Charr toon so as you can guess. BRING IT ON gw2 that is...

nuf said

cebalrai

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

Mature Gaming Association

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No. Anet lost me as a customer by halfway abandoning GW1. I've been bored to tears for some time, so I moved on to less boring games.

boarderx

boarderx

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ill probably play GW2, put im gonna look at it like any other game. Do i like it? if so ill continue to play.

Innocent

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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The fundamental problem with Guild Wars is that they no longer have a coherent vision of what the game should be, at least it seems that way. This happened gradually with the PvP -> PvE focus, and now the higher end gvg has stagnated because there is no direction for the game. This is why I want to give Guild Wars 2 a try before I buy it.

Ctb

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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No.

Also, I won't be purchasing any cars made in 2021, and I've already decided that everything on the fall TV schedule for 2014 is going to suck.

My life has gotten much easier since I started making all my buying decisions based on unjustifiable judgment calls regarding products that won't exist for some time.

I have a better topic: will you be posting in the next unrelentingly pointless thread about Guild Wars 2 buying habits that is created, potentially, years before the product's release? Please, c'mon. Somebody post this thread again. We didn't get enough irrational feedback in the last two dozen threads about this exact same topic.

komma

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they are making gw2???

Dr Imperial

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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I think anet should've focused on more campaigns for GW1. It's quite a risk they're taking.

And like most answers here, I'll be trying the beta and deciding then...

Sparks Dawnbringer

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Well, yes. Would you all like a little cheese with that wine? I'v enjoyed playing for 3 years. I think there are a lot of things that would make my time more enjoyable but by far I'm happy.

Numa Pompilius

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Imperial
I think anet should've focused on more campaigns for GW1. It's quite a risk they're taking.
Yeah, but they had no choice. Unlike The Other Big MMORPG Company(tm) ArenaNet and NCSoft are not bathing in more money than they know what to do with, and had to concentrate all their resources on their next project. GW2 may cost as much as $100M to develop - that may be just 20 days subscription fees for Blizzard, but it's 2 years of revenue for NCSoft and ANet.

I also suspect the longevity of Guildwars surprised ANet and NCSoft, they probably didn't expect it to still be going as strong as it is; at least that's my take on why they're now moving a designer and a programmer back to working full time with GW1.

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparks Dawnbringer
Well, yes. Would you all like a little cheese with that wine? I'v enjoyed playing for 3 years. I think there are a lot of things that would make my time more enjoyable but by far I'm happy.
Yes, I want some cheese with it and I'll pay for it too, but there's nothing left on the menu. It has been a good game for me too but it's been a year since the last expansion, which wasn't as big as previous campaigns and after this year there is nothing yet that we can look forward to.
Yes they are supposedly working on GW2 but there is no indication whatsoever about when we can expect this except this: 2009/2010

It seems to me that Anet simply doesn't have the manpower to deliver what they need to to maintain their fan base properly and they are leaving an enormous amount depend on luck and goodwill for GW2.

Funny thing is, when I will start playing a game like say Aion and I end up loving it, I won't be able to care less anymore about what I put together in my HoM. It was a great idea at the time but it's all taking too long for the next step. The funny thing about getting bored is that it also brings apathy.

People who are upset about this all are basically struggling with their last strands of care about this game before they completely give up on it and simply no longer care. I recognise myself in this completely. I am only playing at the moment to fill the gap till a few other games come out and then I'm gone. So come November, that's it basically.

And really, any business has to deal with continuity. From where I'm sitting Anet's got some problems there.

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

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W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Yeah, but they had no choice. Unlike The Other Big MMORPG Company(tm) ArenaNet and NCSoft are not bathing in more money than they know what to do with, and had to concentrate all their resources on their next project. GW2 may cost as much as $100M to develop - that may be just 20 days subscription fees for Blizzard, but it's 2 years of revenue for NCSoft and ANet.

I also suspect the longevity of Guildwars surprised ANet and NCSoft, they probably didn't expect it to still be going as strong as it is; at least that's my take on why they're now moving a designer and a programmer back to working full time with GW1.
Uhmm just to clarify, even though Anet falls under NcSoft they are not as such one and the same. NcSoft is behind Lineage and also behind the upcoming Aion Online game, in which they were able to invest quite a lot. If anything Aion may be one of the biggest competitors for GW and thus for Anet. I'm sure that if for example GW2 doesn't do well because everybody is playing Aion, NcSoft won't lose any sleep over it...Anet however probably will...

Zebideedee

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If it has titles, I might look elsewhere, don't get me wrong, I do grind for titles atm, but I'll be honest, theres nothing fun about it, it's all just for show

So if GW2 is the same as that, then I'll be looking for a new game of that year

ScaryDrifter

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Join Date: Jul 2008

To the lee of the stone

Currently guildless

N/Me

Not everyone has played the game ad nauseum. I am rather new, and have only recently attained 20th level. There's still much for me to do and I'm sure there are many others like me out there.

After being a part of the Age of Conan launch, I would like to say that
I will not play an MMO at startup again, although I know that Champions Online will be a mighty temptation.

Lonesamurai

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn
Uhmm just to clarify, even though Anet falls under NcSoft they are not as such one and the same. NcSoft is behind Lineage and also behind the upcoming Aion Online game, in which they were able to invest quite a lot. If anything Aion may be one of the biggest competitors for GW and thus for Anet. I'm sure that if for example GW2 doesn't do well because everybody is playing Aion, NcSoft won't lose any sleep over it...Anet however probably will...
Nah, cos all of the ANet employees pay slips have the NC Soft logo on them

Sorn Xarann

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ctb
No.

Also, I won't be purchasing any cars made in 2021, and I've already decided that everything on the fall TV schedule for 2014 is going to suck.
My life has gotten much easier since I started making all my buying decisions based on unjustifiable judgment calls regarding products that won't exist for some time.
I have a better topic: will you be posting in the next unrelentingly pointless thread about Guild Wars 2 buying habits that is created, potentially, years before the product's release? Please, c'mon. Somebody post this thread again. We didn't get enough irrational feedback in the last two dozen threads about this exact same topic.
well played
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samifly

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I honestly don't know... the longer I wait the less interested I get. Plus with all the new games coming down the pipe, why should I care about GW2 until the beta?

Qual

Qual

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by I MP I
Depends on how the GW2 beta goes.
Yea, and the beta has to be really bad for me not to move over to GW2.

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
Nah, cos all of the ANet employees pay slips have the NC Soft logo on them
Well, I have never seen their pay slips so I can't comment on that. But game companies cut of smaller studios under them constantly. I am pretty sure that if Anet proves their worth they will be kept, and if GW2 fails they will be cut out from NcSoft. I am sure NcSoft will want Anet to succeed but then if they can make Aion the next biggest thing after WoW at the cost of GW2 (not saying it will but for argument's sake) then I am sure business will be business and they won't think twice about it.

Billiard

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At a panel meeting at PAX on Business Models the NCSoft rep was pretty high on Guild Wars (and even casually referred to GW6 while making a point). Aion is a different business model more similar to what is seen in Asian, now, which is why I think it has a similar look to the MMOs that you see there. I'll talk more about NCSoft and ArenaNet in my next piece on Chris Lye, their Marketing Director.

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
I also suspect the longevity of Guildwars surprised ANet and NCSoft, they probably didn't expect it to still be going as strong as it is; at least that's my take on why they're now moving a designer and a programmer back to working full time with GW1.
Or they didn't expect GW2 to be in development so long.