Update - Thursday August 7
Akaraxle
Hahaha oh wow. Can't wait to read the reasons behind this.
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by R.Shayne
10% chance is just not enough.
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With QZ the spike recycles in 7 seconds.
WRT Azuran Scan even a warrior has enough energy to keep it up indefinitely, as long as he's using a zealous weapon; I tested on Master of Damage and got a sustained damage output on my dslash warrior of 84 (with QZ).
IrisLee
They still need to buff Wastrel's Collapse.
I still don't understand why it's an elite.
I still don't understand why it's an elite.
EmptySkull
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Originally Posted by JupiterStarWarrior
Thing about Sniper Support is that it's still got a 10% chance of hitting something with that uber-damage. I think I'll stick with the Assassin Support (that's been fun since I've Arcane Echo it).
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Akolo
Best update ever. People are forced to think out builds to finish areas, and the "buffs" to pve skills makes you need less grinding.
A lot of new fun elite skills that were unused before
for once i have to say im happy with somethign that anet did (except for creating the game ofc
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A lot of new fun elite skills that were unused before
for once i have to say im happy with somethign that anet did (except for creating the game ofc
Kashrlyyk
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Originally Posted by Faer
Evisc/DSlash Warriors do more damage.
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Originally Posted by Yang Whirlwind
And you don't think bringing a ranger without UB and equipped with a mostly useless Elite to DoA combined with the fact that you have to get 5 rangers makes things a bit more difficult?
You will only have 4 UB's btw, if you still plan on bringing the standard 3 monks and the ranger. |
Akolo
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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
And have no knockdown.
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Earth
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Originally Posted by seut
They aren't actually buffed. Their effects at max title rank stayed the same. The increase was for the lower ranks making the gap between min and max title effect smaller (= less benefit from grinding).
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EbilCat
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moriz
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Originally Posted by EbilCat
Order of Undeath was fine the way it was in PvE, this should have been a PvP only change
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MINION BOMBER
landt007
update really sux lol
boogerboy72
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Originally Posted by moriz
two words:
MINION BOMBER |
x9. game over mobs.
someone try jb/oou, with 2 mms, enchant some with jb, then the other mm, blow them up, do they all die with no shamblings spawned?
DarkNecrid
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Don't leave home without it.
Alfrond
Great update Anet. Can't wait to try these changes out.
moriz
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Originally Posted by boogerboy72
death nova says hi
x9. game over mobs. someone try jb/oou, with 2 mms, enchant some with jb, then the other mm, blow them up, do they all die with no shamblings spawned? |
EPO Bot
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Originally Posted by landt007
update really sux lol
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Master Ketsu
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Originally Posted by Akaraxle
Hahaha oh wow. Can't wait to read the reasons behind this.
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Since most good builds are ussually centered around an elite, by specifically buffing a bunch of underpowered elites it greatly increases the number of builds that can be played. By increasing variety into the meta players will hopefully be more encouraged to run balanced builds that allow skilled players to deal with a number of things, rather then noobways.
Faer
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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
And have no knockdown.
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In fact, Evisc/DSlash Warriors not only out-DPS Ursan and have knockdown of their own, they also have the option of packing multiple utility skills including, but not limited to, the functionalities of interrupting and party-wide support, and can use all these other utility skills without having to drop a form and therefore kill their DPS.
But never fear. Your ignorance has been pardoned. It's not your fault you are bad, it's ArenaNet's for handing out gummy bears with the release of their latest pet project. Sugar tends to confuse people in large amounts and has a detrimental effect on the human brain's ability to properly function.
Bryant Again
Damn, Faer, it's good to have you back : )
Targren
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
[OoU is] good in Corpseless areas...maybe? |
DarkNecrid
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Originally Posted by Faer
You are terrible.
In fact, Evisc/DSlash Warriors not only out-DPS Ursan and have knockdown of their own, they also have the option of packing multiple utility skills including, but not limited to, the functionalities of interrupting and party-wide support, and can use all these other utility skills without having to drop a form and therefore kill their DPS. But never fear. Your ignorance has been pardoned. It's not your fault you are bad, it's ArenaNet's for handing out gummy bears with the release of their latest pet project. Sugar tends to confuse people in large amounts and has a detrimental effect on the human brain's ability to properly function. |
nub lern 2 ply there aint no rom on my skill br 4 any sdtoppid piece of shite skil it ownz cuswe i got cleave asnd heal signet and mendng alng with signt of streangth n do a yak signt omgz you frakin nuyb lern 2 ply jess fhrist
But yea, if you're playing a DSlash War or an Evis War and you don't have a Knockdown or any utility, you are baed.
Dev121
Good update, not perfect but good. Was not on a scale a monster update however and I do think the community teams need to watch what they say otherwise you have guru spam fests with people waiting watching every second go by in suspense for the update.
I did like the Elite changes thou, a few I know were kind of crap such as one of the Necro MM elites but they had to mess something up.
I did like the Elite changes thou, a few I know were kind of crap such as one of the Necro MM elites but they had to mess something up.
JupiterStarWarrior
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Originally Posted by EmptySkull
Hey if you think [ebon vanguard assassin support] is good with arcane echo. How about trying [arcane echo]+[echo]+[ebon vanguard assassin support] Kill the boss quick and you can have 6 running around.
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JupiterStarWarrior
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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid
Evis War
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Teh [prefession]-zorz
So why didnt they change DW for the deep wound to be on the top...
bryann380
Here are a few things that should have been included with the updates, in my opinion...
The reasoning for my suggestions is simple. I strongly doubt the devs intended on any area to be cleared by solo or 2-3 person teams. Change #1 will make sure that the proper party size designed for that given area is used. I see people talking about how easy dungeons and even HM are so change #2 makes monsters harder to kill and you take more damage if in HM. With the skill changes, they cannot be constantly maintained or recharged faster/instantly.
- A full party is now required to enter any explorable area. If there are at least two players in the party and one leaves the game, the leaving player is replaced with a henchman of the same primary profession. The only exceptions to this change is Pre-Searing Ascalon, the tutorial areas of Factions & Nightfall and any quest or mission where you must be the only one in the party.
- Damage that monsters receive is reduced, depending on where they are. All dungeons, -15%. All elite areas, -33%. Anywhere else while in Hard Mode, -50% and players receive +25% damage from all sources.
- Shadow Form: disabled for 30 seconds. Type has been changed from Spell to Skill, unaffected by morale boosts and skills that can instantly recharge other skills.
- Ursan Blessing, Raven Blessing, Volfen Blessing: disabled for 60 seconds; unaffected by morale boosts and skills that can instantly recharge other skills.
The reasoning for my suggestions is simple. I strongly doubt the devs intended on any area to be cleared by solo or 2-3 person teams. Change #1 will make sure that the proper party size designed for that given area is used. I see people talking about how easy dungeons and even HM are so change #2 makes monsters harder to kill and you take more damage if in HM. With the skill changes, they cannot be constantly maintained or recharged faster/instantly.
Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by Faer
Are you suggesting people run something inferior to Evisc or DSlash with these comments? You are stricken from the guest list, sir.
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P.S. Dragon Slash with the latest Save Yourself is simply on crack. Adrenaline management isn't even a worry any longer.
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Originally Posted by bryann380
Here are a few things that should have been included with the updates, in my opinion...
The reasoning for my suggestions is simple. I strongly doubt the devs intended on any area to be cleared by solo or 2-3 person teams. Change #1 will make sure that the proper party size designed for that given area is used. |
Age
I have done some testing and I am not really impressed with the Monk changes Aura of Faith.Why couldn't they have buffed Life Sheath as a lot have asked for?
N1ghtstalker
new update
notes released yet?
notes released yet?
Martin Firestorm
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
You will not be able to prove how these skills make the game "better" because you'll have a hard time defending cheat codes.
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DarkNecrid
They fixed the Xinrae's Weapon bug, you would crash everyone on the map if you walked into Coral on jade isle/ra map, or if you walked into an acid trap while it was on you.
Shadow Kurd
Yay!! Great update, i really like the Para and Ranger buffs.
Good JOB Linsey and Regina *clap clap clap*
Good JOB Linsey and Regina *clap clap clap*
Enko
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Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd
Yay!! Great update, i really like the Para and Ranger buffs.
Good JOB Linsey and Regina *clap clap clap* |
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm
Better is all about perceptions, inherently subjective and not provable either way.
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Making a new profession that plays just like a shooter and doesn't rely on any skills or builds would be pretty fun to a lot of people, but it's not maintained in the spirit of the game.
truemyths
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
It synergizes with itself, the more who bring it the more likely a "headshot" becomes. If all 8 members of the team bring it you do 8*90= 720 damage (before armor) with a 66% chance of doing at least 900 points more damage.
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R.Shayne
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Making a new profession that plays just like a shooter and doesn't rely on any skills or builds would be pretty fun to a lot of people, but it's not maintained in the spirit of the game.
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Scythe O F Glory
So whats the new build for today? (friday)
Nightow
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Originally Posted by Scythe O F Glory
So whats the new build for today? (friday)
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Scythe O F Glory
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Originally Posted by Nightow
Heard it fixed a bug with [Xinrae's Weapon] which made the game crash. Not sure if anything else was included.
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Shikaru
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Originally Posted by truemyths
How do you get the 66% chance? I would guess 10% chance x 8 = 80% for the group.
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Thats not the correct way to calculate percentages.
If you wanted to calculate the chances of at least one person in an 8 man party would trigger the 900 bonus damage, you calculate
1-(chance of no one getting the bonus damage)
This would equate to 1-(.9^8)
(90% chance that each person would fail to get the bonus damage raised to the 8th power to calculate for 8 independent trials)
This is roughly equal to 57%. This means that if 8 people in the party all used the skill, there would be a 57% chance that at least one of them will get the 900 bonus damage.
Vs char 1-(.75^8) = .899
against char there is a 90% chance that at least one of the 8 party members will hit with bonus damage.