Update 6/18/09

I've talked to a lot of people, and most of them received 80 rp's from predictions...I dunno if this is coincidence or maybe some faulty point distribution?

prepare for guildwars.com to be down for the next week or so

What the hell happened to "a more sparing/careful" approach to pvp/e splits? Soon we're going to have seperate versions for every single skill in the game. This is the biggest bullshit ever, just remove pvp now because no-one new is ever going to bother getting into it when half their skills turn to crap. Some of them don't even need a split.... like does PvE really care if SH is 15e? And woudln't PvP be better off with a funny niche skill that could screw touch rangers?

Also, palm strike? It was already fading out of HA, never used in "real" GvG or good TA teams, what the hell?

And "We Shall Return" is the most ridiculous rez ever. I don't get why they thought para needed all this stuff and then they leave SY completely untouched. And in the desolation you're going to need frozen soil or you lose basically, except junundu don't have frozen soil.

The only thing I really liked about this update was the spawning power/weapon adjustments, but there is still a need for useable spawning power skills if they ever want people to invest in it. That and finally fixing a ton of AI issues.

Yay thank you anet! My rit is my beloved char again ^_^!

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...They buffed Ritualists? And Paragons? They made spirit spamming viable? They nerfed CoP? They nerfed secondary rits?


O_O

HOLY SHIT!!!!


Anet, my faith in you is restored. I don't care that some of this could potentially end up needing to be reverted, I don't care that there are some issues I still wish you'd resolve (mainly SF and ER). Right now the only thing I care about is that you finally delivered a REAL update. THIS is what we like. I am very, very happy with this. Thank you very much.

I received 55 XTH points, which i assume is correct. My predictions are always random, and I never actually check the final rankings.

my para has an erection, he is glad i stuck with him

Lol at Cryway.

RoJ was admittedly overpowered, but I enjoyed NPCs standing in it. XD

And yet when Martin said guru isn't "the community" last week, everybody was freaking out. Now, they are listening too much to the guru minority?

It's not that A.net is listening to the minority, its that they are making hard decisions. If there was a bug that let you get 100 ecto if you clicked on a merchant in a certain town in a certain district during a full moon, then of course you'd be hesistant to want it fixed. You'd say it was a "feature" or an easter egg or something that is rewarding you for your hard work in finding such a small thing. But its not. It is something that is detrimental to the economy and harmful to the rest of the community who isn't exploiting that.

Balancing isn't about making you happy. It's about making the tough decisions that will be best for everybody. I don't like not being able to farming festival event items like crazy with keg farming. But I know that ultimately, removing it is fair to those who don't do it so that people who still do only group play aren't grossly disadvantaged. Farmers can still get perks, but not so much that all other forms of playing the game aren't worth the time and effort. If you want to play a grindish Korean style MMO, go play Aion or Lineage II.

My main received 5 points (lol) and my two alts are being told they need to go make their predictions, which they did at the same time as my main. Fail Anet, fail.

Well I only received points on one of my accounts.. idk if I'm going to bother submitting a ticket..

Yes, and PvE is already easy enough that everyone and their blind aunt (no offence intended) can play it without trying at all. I'm not saying this is bad, but who cares if there better? its still not like anyones going to take a spirit rit in UWSC. If the point of the update was to give viable options why keep the same old build the same old way? Unless some new grand meta can be made with para skills, I can not see this changing the lives of many die-hard farmers.

Though on a secondary note, the AI changes were a welcome addition.

Thank you Anet, I don't care if the update has some problems like the MM and Well things, it is friggen awesome that you made these decisions.

lol at everyone who is QQ about not getting their RPs. They're free, stop complaining if you get them late... Anet will sort it out in soon.

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wtb skill buffs in PvP.

I dont expect to see rits having a place in pve untill spirits are mobile...

Here's my synopsis

Spawning power could still use a slight buff, although the huge spirit buff pans it out.

Find their weakness if used right is way too deadly.

Spirit Siphon is a non elite OoS.

SoS Spirits don't correspond correctly with other spirits, (Attack Off Queue) And if used with boon of creation is way too ubber E management, needs increased charge

We Shall Return is a little too nice, even though it makes some PvE Areas suck.

Need new PvE Meta since RoJ and CoP aren't the bomb now.

Oh, and I forgot to say thank you Anet!

Nothing was done about the ridiculous Mind Blast template... well, I guess I can wait a month or two, it's summer after all. Outdoor activities here I come!

7 accounts in this house. (not all mine) only 1 of those 7 got the points. Does this mean we have to send in 6 separate support tickets?? This could take a while....
Update was good, but the points.....
Need I say more?

Joko's Domain will be even more annoying to VQ...

Just curious...Is there any point in reporting that we did not get our Tourney House Winnings? Do they actually manually go back and add them in? Don't laugh at me. I'm just curious. I'm guessing they don't.

+1 post about not getting points AND not getting enough points on one of my accounts.

now my para can play another build beside imba

and signet of spirits is strong

naughty, bad anet

SoS + boon of creation, niceeeee with about 10+1 spawning.

Summon spirit is your friend.

To fenix: remember spirits don't stack.

inb4 6 Rits running Signet of Spirits, and 2 SF tanks.

...Wow.

I think I just saw a reason to roll a rit.

Also, they fixed the RoJ-scatter? <3.

I like how they ninja-buffed VoR.

Don't think they removed spirit cap...right?

Here's how I feel about it.

I think that it's disappointing that anet has messed up the keys. I have two accounts that I use frequently. One of them got 55 points, the other - none. I was expecting the money last week from zkeys, but it was postponed. Now this week, we're sposed to get it. But it seems like less than half have. I'm disappointed, but I'm not gonna go around complaining because i didn't get my free money. It's free. I'm lucky I'm getting anything at all, so I'm still thankful. Regina - your response was pointless, seeing as you guys are going to look at each individual report from someone who didn't get their points. That's a lot of people. I don't see it happening, and neither does anyone else. I also don't see why someone who got screwed over at random by not getting their points should have to go out of their way to make a report to you guys to fix your own problem that you apparently caused. It's not right - I mean we were forced to wait a week, and what did we gain in the week that we waited? Nothing at all. Well - Some of us got our points, but it really sucks for the others. I'll remain patient, though, and trust that you guys will fix it. Just please, Regina, give us a different answer than just 'If you think you've received the incorrect number of XTH points, please contact Customer Support'. That's not right, we shouldn't have to do that. Please, give us a different answer.

I really am glad that Rit's have been buff'd, as well as the 'gons. I think that we'll run into a lot of trouble though in PvE when the margonite gons in the desolation use 'We Shall Return!' and such. I'm not sure about a recharge time on that skill but I think it should be pretty long if it isn't already. I also think that we'll have a lot of trouble with enemy rits in PvE due to the spirits buff - Not to meantion the problems with bosses. Especially in HM. I guess I'll find out in the next couple days when I play, and we'll see how it works out. I'm up for the challenge, since it's part of the game. As long as it isn't impossible. Haha. Spawning Power needs a bit more than what it received today, because most of the time - your weapons spells don't even last their full duration anyhow. I'm not happy yet with Spawning Power. I hope to see another buff to that in the near future.

A lot of my friends are getting sick of waiting for their points, and I'm getting sick of the problems/things being pushed off, and messed up again. I have friends that are very bored with GW, and are on the verge of quitting, and I'd rather not see them leave over something as stupid as this. Because they're at the point where one more little mistake will push them over the edge. I hope you guys give enough of a crap about your customers who gave you their money to play a great game. Do something about this. Please. Lol

Regina - Ya gotta give us more of an answer to this problem! I know it's only been a few hours since the update, but give us more than 'Report to customer support if you haven't received your points'. Please.
I'm expecting a reply!

VoR - Meh, better than nothing but it's still a great skill for hex pressure.
WK / LC - WK is probably balanced now, LC you'll have to use GoLE (which you needed for suffering anyway).
PS - About 5 months too late to matter?
Prism - Better than nothing, but still probably too good.

Nothing addressed with the mind blast template, complete fail there.

Gwen can now use power leech, oh joy we really needed that.

The Glacial Griffon is gonna be more fun now, methinks. - Duncan too.

Spirit cap counts when there are multiple of the same spirit. The spirits summoned by SoS don't have a type, unless I'm mistaken?

Methinks it might (knowing ANet) ignore the cap and allow for xbox hueg numbers of spirits.

Spirit Siphon: functionality changed to: "The spirit nearest you loses all Energy. You gain 15..50% of that Energy."

Spirits have 31e, which they don't use. 15 channeling nets you 15e as long as you have a spirit. Basically a non elite OoS so we can bring SoS.

It's easy enough, what they are going to do is nerf the elite areas rather than shadow form itself. just throw in signet of disenchantment on a few foes. easy

What he said^^, If you are alternating two spirits it's imba, let alone SoS.

Signet of Spirits + boon of creation pretty much IS OoS

They really need to buff other mesmer skills if they were going to nerf Cry of Pain. I'm pretty well annoyed by this. Mesmer is the class that has kept me playing Guild Wars because it was fairly different from classes in other games. No more storage panes or characters remodels for me then, Anet.

You act as if your bar was only Cry of Pain, if Mesmer was so different...I don't understand, CoP can be used by any caster class pretty much the same.

The spirits cap, it summons a spirit of suffering, and two other named spirits. More than one of them cannot be up at a time.