Update 6/18/09

Aussie Boy

Aussie Boy

Alcoholic

Join Date: Mar 2007

Australia

W/

I waited a bit to check points but just did now and on 5 accounts I got stuff all.
I know i did the predictions before they had website troubles.
I know there free and all that but if it's there and built into the game as a feature it should work.
Grrrrrrrrr

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuilan View Post
No more storage panes or characters remodels for me then, Anet.
Tell that to the money they're making
But as a fellow mesmer, I'll shine some light.
You don't even NEED CoP.
Sure, CoP is an extra bit of awesome damage. But what about fragility? Ineptude? Wandering eye? Clumsiness? And all those other amazing skills of the illusion line?

Tar Ionwe

Tar Ionwe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

Cantha

W/E

Loved the update, nice changes in the PvE area of the game! Also loved the PvP nerfs done to the necro. Only thing now would be one week where we get tourney points without having to wait weeks. . . guess it's time to contact support about not getting my points. . .

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

...and suddenly my Mesmer was never seen again. *sigh*

sportacus

sportacus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2008

Burninating the countryside

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by IronSheik View Post
You act as if your bar was only Cry of Pain, if Mesmer was so different...I don't understand, CoP can be used by any caster class pretty much the same.
I agree. If anything, COP was a reason to go /me more than me/ in the first place.

FelixLives

FelixLives

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Dogs of Warr

E/A

Skill updates were interesting and I'm pleased overall. Of course I wonder if cryway is fail now...

3/5 of my families accounts did NOT get their tournament points witch is LAME. We'll see what Anet does to fix (soon hopefully )

Minami

Minami

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2008

Dallas, TX. USA

Not in any guild at the moment

N/

Checked all my accounts and no points on any of them >_<

Please don't tell me I have to submit a support ticket for each of them, seriously... Somehow I have a hard time believing they will look at each and every support ticket and the accounts associated with them and distribute the points correctly that way, because that could take months seeing how many people are having issues.

I'd like to see a fix for this without tons of people having to submit a ticket...

Anduin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sportacus View Post
I agree. If anything, COP was a reason to go /me more than me/ in the first place.
So they should have changed it to act like There's Nothing to Fear, being better depending on primary attributes, making it basically mandatory for it to be used by its primary class. Not just turn it into shite.

Seraphim Angel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2008

Sacred Knights of Orr [SKoO]

P/

Happy my Paragon got some love.

TYVM Anet!! W00T!!!

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Well, I tried to vote for this months tournament early so I don't forget last minute, and it says it's closed. Guessing they're fixing something, unless this always happens during distribution.

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teknikaali View Post
For a while I thought the Ritualists were going to be 'the underdog'-profession with Paragons, but oh my...
Now it's back to being the Mesmers. VoR has essentially been Smiter's Booned except for very specific builds (45 damage on skill activation for 10 seconds out of every 20 is NOT worth bringing an elite slot for. There are cheaper cover hexes out there...) - in fact, VoR is possibly now most useful on a Mesmer secondary. Not looking forward to the first Zquest to involve Shiro if it happens before Mesmers get some compensation... especially given the Mesmer Celestial skill isn't one of the better ones...

The CoP nerf is... hrrrmn. It needed a nerf, and the one it got isn't necessarily the one I would have chosen, but it's along the right lines - it's still useful for a single Mesmer (in fact, it possibly does more damage total if you don't hit the degen cap) as long as said Mesmer's other skills aren't degen-based, but it's considerably less useful en masse.

I think it's still possible to make an effective Mesmer - neither CoP or VoR were really the sharp ends of my builds anyway - but a) Mesmers will be even more about AP+AE-based abuse of PvE skills than actual mesmering and b) it's probably going to be harder to convince PUGs that you're useful. And so close to getting my Guardian titles, too.

The buff to Spawning Power is a little... indirect. The modification to the duration of weapon spells probably won't make as much difference as ANet is possibly hoping, as the really popular ones are the ones that don't last their full duration anyway. Still, the big buffs to spirits make spirits, and by extension Spawning Power, that much more valuable.

I wonder if they're perhaps too fast to go up now, however. The Glacial Griffon may now well prove to be all but impossible, although the longbow degen technique will probably still work... at the cost of having to buy those skills.

So, initial responses to the update:
PvE Ritualists and Paragons get much-needed shots in the arm.
PvE Mesmers get a kick in the teeth without compensation
Awakened Cavaliers are going to be silly... (Another reason to be glad of getting some Desolation vanqs in on the weekend, I suppose.)

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

As a mesmer main, all I can say is...

Thank Jesus it's toned down now. <3 you Anet. It's only half as abusable in a group. Save Yourselves and Shadow Form next please. Even Ray of Judgment got fixed!

Would still love to see Mind Blast take a hit back to at least 3r, but I can take it in chunks if I have to.

zhongzh

zhongzh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

Temple of Ages

Mo/

Its always exciting when they make a huge skill update. However some thoughts:
PS: too little too late
signet of creation: this skill was buffed and made obsolete in the same update.
spirit siphon: yep non-elite OoS
we shall return: what was wrong with the original functionality?

overall this massive pvp-pve split isnt going to bode well in the long run. A pve rit or goon wont be able to set foot in RA i dont think.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

PvE paragon changes are going to make the Awakened Cavalier very annoying in Hard Mode as they'll now have two resses on their bars, one of which is an instant cast the other recharging in five seconds. Considering you can fight two of them at once it's an image I don't want to think about. However their elite no longer works for what that's worth.

I think the short form of "Find Their Weakness!" should read "For 5...20 seconds target ally gains Eviscerate on their next attack.". While it's nice to see "Go For The Eyes!" back to its spam happy form, and even buffed from that version, the lack of revisions to the Motivation line is concerning. It's like they just looked at Command and Leadership and made a few changes. I don't see much of a reason to run Motivation over Command considering both the offensive and defensive aspects of Command were significantly improved.

sportacus

sportacus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2008

Burninating the countryside

D/

VSF FTWTF I guess.

H-lord

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

D/A

Very nice update, but this morning I try HM in the desert and the undead horde are just UN-dead.
They use signet of return like there is no tomorrow, but it is HM so I'll try to figure something out.
PS what about Dervish? will we see Dervish update next? they are like that guy that sit in the middle class that nobody notice them, they aren't bad just blah...

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

New build, that was fast

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Hey, I herdz you liekz frozen soil?

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

wow...

Signets of Spirits + armor of unfeeling + spirit siphon = nice combo
+
Ancestor's Rage + Spirit Rift + Essence Strike (for direct damage skills)
+
Bloodsong + Destruction (for extra artillery)

= unlimited energy spamming artillery rit with nuking capabilities

Gotta love that

(Works like a charm on heroes too btw, Razah says thank you Anet)

Ph33rtehGD

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Krazy Guild With Krazy People

E/

New build is available! Maybe the points got fixed...got to wait 12 minutes to find out =).

Kendel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2009

I think people need to remember what playing a Mesmer was all about.

The change to CoP nerfed it being used as an armour ignoring AoE spike skill. If anything its been made STRONGER when considered on its own, causing 150 damage now Course the degen cap has an effect on this so your best off firing it off early.

Magikarp

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

I freaking love guild wars again!!! Game on!!!!!!!!

IronSheik

IronSheik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Wolfenstein: Goldrush

Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson View Post
Signets of Spirits + armor of unfeeling + spirit siphon = nice combo
+
Ancestor's Rage + Spirit Rift + Essence Strike (for direct damage skills)
+
Bloodsong + Destruction (for extra artillery)

= unlimited energy spamming artillery rit with nuking capabilities

Gotta love that

(Works like a charm on heroes too btw, Razah says thank you Anet)
I'm actually running two spirit spam rit heroes SoS and WoQ, and wow, it works, not totally imba, but nice to have 3 fresh soakers every 10 seconds. If only they could carry summon spirits..

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Bug Fix
Fixed a bug with Hero and NPC AI which would prevent them from effectively utilizing minion skills.

thats what the wiki says the update is. Not much.

Aerial Assault

Aerial Assault

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

IGN: Ingame Notoriety

IGN: Ingame Notoriety

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minami Kaori View Post
Checked all my accounts and no points on any of them >_<

Please don't tell me I have to submit a support ticket for each of them, seriously... Somehow I have a hard time believing they will look at each and every support ticket and the accounts associated with them and distribute the points correctly that way, because that could take months seeing how many people are having issues.

I'd like to see a fix for this without tons of people having to submit a ticket...


Same boat.

Probably already mentioned, but worth mentioning again: It's bad enough the servers went down during the closing hours of GvG predictions (yes I reject Anet's denial of this occurrence), forcing many to suck it up and accept the fact that they would only get credit for HB predictions (a joke in itself). And to not get credit on any account after a week delay... geez, I don't know what else to say to that.



Nice to see hex way get hit at least.

glacialphoenix

glacialphoenix

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

Singapore

Royal Order of Flying Lemmings [ROFL]

Mo/

Quote:
Hey, I herdz you liekz frozen soil?
On a Junundu? Frozen Soil would solve those you can fight normally, but not those wandering the sulphur areas where you have to use junundu.

icedwhitemocha

icedwhitemocha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ancestral/Grenz

[CneX]

W/

I'd assume the last build was for the crash/err bug?

Skill descriptions for wells are still wrong. We'll find out in a few minutes if TRPs are fixed. I received 30, and according to the Rules section on Xunlai I should have 75. Somehow I doubt I'll magically get the remaining 45.

edit: no luck.

Holy_Fx

Holy_Fx

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/Rt

still no rps given on any of my accounts

dustbunny

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

I'd love to be able to try out the changes, but alas, I cannot.

GW still crashes, even after the latest update. After abot 10 seconds, little dots fill the screen and my computer locks up, forcing me to hit the reset button.

Please, please, please fix. Thank you.

icedwhitemocha

icedwhitemocha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ancestral/Grenz

[CneX]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dustbunny View Post
I'd love to be able to try out the changes, but alas, I cannot.

GW still crashes, even after the latest update. After abot 10 seconds, little dots fill the screen and my computer locks up, forcing me to hit the reset button.

Please, please, please fix. Thank you.
Doesn't really sound like anet's fault, unless anyone else is experiencing this as well...

lutz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Battery Powered Best Friends [Vibe]

Me/

All PvE needs now is a "click button, receive victory" skill.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Sad for ether prism and E/Rt nerf.

Happy for Rit and Para buffs.

More happy than sad.

Braxton619

Braxton619

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by dustbunny View Post
I'd love to be able to try out the changes, but alas, I cannot.

GW still crashes, even after the latest update. After abot 10 seconds, little dots fill the screen and my computer locks up, forcing me to hit the reset button.

Please, please, please fix. Thank you.
No I am not having this problem. Ever since I installed Guild Wars on my PC, no crashes whatsoever.

Contact NCSoft.

Lyphen

Lyphen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Looks like dustbunny has some dust problems. Clean out your case, you might be overheating.

DJCoastal

DJCoastal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Vancouver, BC, Canada

Mo/

Any luck with the points yet??? 0/3 accounts have yet to receive any.

immortius

immortius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Black Cats

E/Mo

Repair or reinstall. Although really it sounds like your 3D card is overheating.

Edit: I received 30 points. Not sure how many I should have gotten but I think my predictions were a bit off last month.

Ph33rtehGD

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Krazy Guild With Krazy People

E/

For those of you who didn't see the in-game announcement made:

Kendel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
Sad for ether prism and E/Rt nerf.
Tbh i was expecting something alot worse... i'd say E/Rt got off lucky.

germanturkey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

[PoW]

E/

Para buffs are great. i'll go delete my nec and start a rit now.

Jarus

Jarus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Council of Iris

I saw the ritualist updates and thought... My, June is the new Christmas.