Guild Wars: A ghost town in the making.

Fear The Apocalypse

Fear The Apocalypse

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Project Flyswatter [SWAT]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
Dear Gurus,

Today, over 3700 accounts were banned due to botting and use of third-party programs. Let's take a moment and really break down how and why nearly half of the populous of this dying online community spontaneously combusted.

Arena-Net has offered us so many lovely content additions in the recent history, such as costumes, NPCs to talk trade useless crap for other useless crap, ways to change our character from a down-syndrome having asian infant, and finally the War in Kryta quest chain. These additions have molded the community from a dying game, to a dying game that the players realize won't get better. I understand GW2 is on the rise, but that's been the case for 2 years without any love for the original, and will continue to be the case for months to come. With this being said, what do the players with 3-5 years under their belt have to do? Repeat missions, vanqs, dungeons? Needlessly grind out speed clears (which Anet failed at attempting to shut down)? Or maybe participating in nerdy e-peen battles on a nightly basis with the same morons every night in HA? THIS my friends, is precisely why people bot. It makes the game fun again. Personally, I've achieved GWAMM, r8, g3 on my own, no bot help. I moved to PvP because there was nothing else left to do in PvE. When PvP becomes redundant, you simply move on (botting). An evolutionary process mediated by A-net themselves.

For those of you who didn't bot, you simply didn't know where to get it. Honestly, when something becomes meta (obviously botting was), this community of ours nestles into it wholeheartedly. So basically, my point is this: Anet killed this game by not updating it enough. Without enough content updates, or micro-transactions, or anything that normal, successful MMOs employ to keep their game active, this game died out. 15 minute zaishen wait times in HA, empty districts in PvE zones, etc... BEFORE the ban-o-mania. Just imagine what the future months will behold.

I would just like to note with this post, that the people that botted, didn't necessarily bot because they wanted a maxed title, or money, or fame, or glad, etc.. etc... Personally... I just didn't know what else to do... Second GWAMM? ok.. bot account wide titles (treasure, luxon.) Bot eotn titles. Who cares? I've done them already... If a game wants to combat botting, don't let the players get bored of said game. Honestly, running rupty and watching people rage was more fun than playing the game for what it is. If Anet sticks to this concept of an MMO.... even if it is more like WoW (.... zzzzz), who is going to play it? You think I'm gonna buy GW2 after filling my HoM legitimately, getting gwamm, r8, g3 legit? After 5000+ hours of gameplay? I can't imagine so. Because truthfully, with the effort put into GW1 in the last few years, why would I expect anything more from GW2 once they design it? A re-skinned, re-written WoW isn't going to do anyone any good, especially when the Arena Net team won't be adding new content updates every couple of months like WoW does... As BAD as WoW is... it's better than GW... because the designers actually give a damn. =/ sad news for Guild Wars today.

Generally... good luck GW community. - What's left of it, that is.
Or I just didn't want to get banned and end up like YOU. Just a thought..... I have everything or nearly everything you have mentioned and get this..... I NEVER USED A BOT!!!!! ZOMG!!!!!

So enjoy your ban. Ty for playing and you have obviously been served by the BAN SCYTHE!!!

Kc Quipor Ultra

Kc Quipor Ultra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2009

Belgium

TRL

E/Me

its not about the banning i think its about here , but many people quited because there is nothing more to do :P And no news of GW2 beta or even a release date(even if its in 2011 or 2012) i think many people don't believe anymore in this , but i still believe, but there will be a time that everyone's patience will be gone

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

N/Rt

Worst excuses for using the bots must be that they are tired of the game and playing the same thing for over 5 years without new content.
Have you even considered to possibility of trying another game before trying to ruin it for many others who are new and do enjoy it?

Selket

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh

What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]

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When there's nothing left to do, you quit. You don't try to arbitrarily raise your wealth in something that you no longer should care about.

Erik Fox

Erik Fox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Texas

Ghost town? You do realize 3700 is a very small % of the playing population, and in that, most of the banned had multiple accounts. In the other thread, I've seen numbers anywhere from 3 accounts to 43... the highest number I've seen posted is 82 accounts to one accountholder. Why one even needs 82 accounts is absolutely beyond me but - you get the picture. I bet the average player count banned is ~1000...

fireflyry

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

Better a dying community due to a prosperous community slowly leaving due to them filling HoM or having had enough than an "active" one where titles and rewards were a total joke.

How does coding equate to population anyway.

You should have just titled this "I got banned for botting waa waa" and saved some time.

midnightduo1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2008

We got big [bnrs]

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uh dude, im pretty sure that mass-ban didnt hit that many people
considering how some of them own at least 3 to over 100 accounts to bot/store gold
and the fact that there is 7 pages of reply to ur bee-ess, this community is not dead

i believe it's called rejoicing

Deakon

Deakon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Arkansas

Just The Four Of Us [TRIO]

Mo/E

Mort... you and your kind are solely responsible for ruining GW for me personally. Botters, dungeon-runners, speed-clearers etc. etc. that exploit and abuse over and over, hoarding stacks of ecto, selling over-priced drops, making things harder for those who try to do things legitimately. They've had to alter the content to the point that things aren't much fun anymore. I place the blame squarely on your shoulders, not A-Net's. Granted they could have done the banning from the "get-go" instead of pissing off regular "grinders" like myself but hind-sight is 20/20.

I, for one, am extremely pleased with A-net over this last course of action... For the first time in a while I might add. And to you... I say, good riddance! And thanks for ruining things for the rest of us. I hope you get ass cancer. (Not really... That would be mean. Maybe just a really infected ingrown hair or something.)

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

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@OP: I don't see how being bored with something makes people bot or see how most of that has anything to do with exploiting a game you don't enjoy.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

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I don't get the logic of how the loss of bots playing the game without a human behind the computer kills the GW COMMUNITY... lol

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

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If you are using a bot, you aren't playing the game. Don't even try to argue that, cause the bot plays for you, no denying it. So, since you aren't playing the game anymore, why do you care if you get banned, and why do you care to load it up and turn on the bot? Never have, and never will understand the idea of having something or someone else play for you. Not sad to see people get banned, not sad to see people turn away from the game or future versions of it, because those people aren't playing it anyway.

I do enjoy seeing people display their idiocy though, so thanks for that.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

With this being said, what do the players with 3-5 years under their belt have to do?


Hide in the bushes to get a screen shot that nic does unspeakable acts on the professor. PETA is looking into that dirty dirty clown. His days are numbered

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie View Post
1) Because I am not those other people who says bot is bot.

2) In my humble opinion, I think that only when you violated the rules, and with that violations, it created griefs and manipulated the PvP results, than it warrant a perma-ban. LIKE SYNC (hint arenanet GIANT HINT)

3) To OP, bots were never a part of the community.
I completely agree. If it affects the fun and enjoyment of others it could warrant a permanent ban. But only then.

milan

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

BONE

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Laughing too hard and destroying keyboard due to spilling coffee = £27.50
Watching over and over again Dhumm reaping botters = Priceless.

TiagoS1

TiagoS1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2009

I am not a rich guy in GW, true. But i did never used a bot.

Because of this banned players, i will start to play GW again after some months without it.

Great news for the community and for the REAL players.

River Skale Queen, here i go!

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
Dear Gurus,

Today, over 3700 accounts were banned due to botting and use of third-party programs. Let's take a moment and really break down how and why nearly half of the populous of this dying online community spontaneously combusted.
Firstly i seriously doubt that nearly 50% of players were banned beause of this and tbh even if it was , who gives a shit that waste of space botters are gone?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
For those of you who didn't bot, you simply didn't know where to get it. Honestly, when something becomes meta (obviously botting was),
Bots are PvE Meta? That is frankly one of the most retarded statements seen on this forum ever. And that shit take some doing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
For those of you who didn't bot, you simply didn't know where to get it.
Nope , never even thought too look for them. I play the game because i want to. I have never been much of a farmer and never botted and have a virtually full HoM - barring the high end minis (i don't even like many of the basic minis so i aint wasting time with anything else). Bots are not even close to being needed to complete Gwamm/Hom

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
I would just like to note with this post, that the people that botted, didn't necessarily bot because they wanted a maxed title, or money, or fame, or glad, etc.. etc... Personally... I just didn't know what else to do...
Play something else for a while ? You and GW aint in a monogamous relationship you know.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
You think I'm gonna buy GW2 after filling my HoM legitimately, getting gwamm, r8, g3 legit? After 5000+ hours of gameplay? I can't imagine so. Because truthfully, with the effort put into GW1 in the last few years, why would I expect anything more from GW2 once they design it? A re-skinned, re-written WoW isn't going to do anyone any good, especially when the Arena Net team won't be adding new content updates every couple of months like WoW does... As BAD as WoW is... it's better than GW... because the designers actually give a damn. =/ sad news for Guild Wars today.
/paraphrase that
I got caught cheating and banned and because of this GW2 will obviously suck so i will not be buying it. GW sucks anyway and WoW is much better , i only played 5000 hours to see if i liked it anyway.which i didnt

Jk)Phoenix

Jk)Phoenix

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Pizza's Town

I've Quit GW ^^

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
Personally, I've achieved GWAMM, r8, g3 on my own, no bot help. I moved to PvP because there was nothing else left to do in PvE. When PvP becomes redundant, you simply move on (botting). An evolutionary process mediated by A-net themselves.
The evolutionary process would be that u leave the game, not bot -.-
Bot his a choice.
A Lame Choice that hurts all the other players for ur egoism to get more, more MORE, MORE. And than u discover this is only a shit game and u will leave all ur richness there.


Go get a job and farm real life!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
For those of you who didn't bot, you simply didn't know where to get it.
ROFL AT THIS.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
Honestly, when something becomes meta (obviously botting was), this community of ours nestles into it wholeheartedly. So basically, my point is this: Anet killed this game by not updating it enough. Without enough content updates, or micro-transactions, or anything that normal, successful MMOs employ to keep their game active, this game died out. 15 minute zaishen wait times in HA, empty districts in PvE zones, etc... BEFORE the ban-o-mania. Just imagine what the future months will behold.
Botting meta... ffs are u listening to ur self?

About anet ruined the game... i could agree with u, expecially when u say about customs, shit summon stones and micro-transactions...

BUT, because they ruin the game than u aren't authorized to ruins it more by botting! Only cuz 1 thing is bad, that doesn't mean that u can do the same.

In conclusion: BYE.

oscarmk

oscarmk

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby2 View Post
Still bots in JQ

lol
Report them then, I didn't get to see Dhuum killing them =(... I want to see him.

Ghosst

Ghosst

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
If Anet sticks to this concept of an MMO.... even if it is more like WoW (.... zzzzz), who is going to play it?
Probably a lot of bored WoW players... Actually all of the e-peen vs bot rage that predominates this thread aside, you have a point in this portion of your post.

I'm sure it will be met with "well, we don't want you anyways" but this is one of the biggest concerns people I know have about GW2 and why a lot of them have no intention of buying it. It seems unfair to judge it before it is released, but all future post-whoring rage aside it's money ANet will lose by copying old games.

I can only hope it's different than what we were promised which is a WoW clone. Oh yes for the reading comprehension challenged, I didn't say I felt one way or the other.

</hijack>

Sirius Bsns

Banned

Join Date: May 2010

PonG

W/Mo

Botting = Cheating = SCYTHED BY DHUUUUUUUUUUM!

@ OP: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL good riddance.

Gabriel of Ravn

Gabriel of Ravn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Virginia

None, retired to GW2.

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik Fox View Post
Ghost town? You do realize 3700 is a very small % of the playing population, and in that, most of the banned had multiple accounts. In the other thread, I've seen numbers anywhere from 3 accounts to 43... the highest number I've seen posted is 82 accounts to one accountholder. Why one even needs 82 accounts is absolutely beyond me but - you get the picture. I bet the average player count banned is ~1000...
I completely agree with this the average person QQ about being banned for botting had multiple accounts so to the OP of this thread you my sir are an idiot to believe that 3700 banned accounts= 3700 banned people in actuality it's probably fewer than 800 and really I couldn't care less about 800 getting banned for using bots even if it does make gw a bit smaller I doubt it would make a huge difference to the rest of us that actually play.

market

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2009

27/05/2010 <3

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

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Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

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I'd rather have 3,700 less bots in the game than have them in the game.

Less bots means more personal interaction with players, regardless of how many are left.

Sadly, PvP is much more ghost town-ish now......

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
Dear Gurus...
It's hard to read your essay on the Guild Wars populace as anything other than a bitter tantrum.

You say GW1 crew doesn't care about the game after they ban 3 700 accounts that were cheating the game (hence ruining it).

Just because you actually played the game doesn't make you exempt from the rules. You cheated, you got caught.

The game is the game.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fear The Apocalypse View Post
Or I just didn't want to get banned and end up like YOU. Just a thought..... I have everything or nearly everything you have mentioned and get this..... I NEVER USED A BOT!!!!! ZOMG!!!!!

So enjoy your ban. Ty for playing and you have obviously been served by the BAN SCYTHE!!!
I feel the same way. He says we didn't bot because we didn't know how to do it???!?!

No..we didn't bot because we are the smart ones, and besides I already got everything I've wanted from this game without botting.

Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

I dont think the 3700 account banned would constitute a ghost town, they werent "real" in the first place.

R_Frost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karate Jesus View Post
I'd rather have 3,700 less bots in the game than have them in the game.

Less bots means more personal interaction with players, regardless of how many are left.

Sadly, PvP is much more ghost town-ish now......
also means 3700 less accounts bogging down Anet's servers, maybe a bit less ingame lag on big event weekends. hmm less people doing PvP, maybe those of us that have wanted to play HA that arent ranked might have a chance.............then again probably not

Del

Del

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2009

In a van, down by the river.

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO if I know, ask Lynette.

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too long, didn't read.

Lopezus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

MDD

D/W

So people are actually saying that b/c there found no fun in in playing GW they started using botts and even more blame A-net for this. So childlish, clearly A-Net did them a favour b/c made right decsion they couldn't make : stop playing if the game is not fun anymore, otherwise it's some compulsive/obssesvie/addicitive behavoiur.

code

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trader of Secrets View Post
I dont think the 3700 account banned would constitute a ghost town, they werent "real" in the first place.
If they are not real, why are they on these very forums, complaining?

Insert Random Name Here

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2009

The Last Hero Guild [TLH]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
Dear Gurus,

Today, over 3700 accounts were banned due to botting and use of third-party programs. Let's take a moment and really break down how and why nearly half of the populous of this dying online community spontaneously combusted.

Arena-Net has offered us so many lovely content additions in the recent history, such as costumes, NPCs to talk trade useless crap for other useless crap, ways to change our character from a down-syndrome having asian infant, and finally the War in Kryta quest chain. These additions have molded the community from a dying game, to a dying game that the players realize won't get better. I understand GW2 is on the rise, but that's been the case for 2 years without any love for the original, and will continue to be the case for months to come. With this being said, what do the players with 3-5 years under their belt have to do? Repeat missions, vanqs, dungeons? Needlessly grind out speed clears (which Anet failed at attempting to shut down)? Or maybe participating in nerdy e-peen battles on a nightly basis with the same morons every night in HA? THIS my friends, is precisely why people bot. It makes the game fun again. Personally, I've achieved GWAMM, r8, g3 on my own, no bot help. I moved to PvP because there was nothing else left to do in PvE. When PvP becomes redundant, you simply move on (botting). An evolutionary process mediated by A-net themselves.

For those of you who didn't bot, you simply didn't know where to get it. Honestly, when something becomes meta (obviously botting was), this community of ours nestles into it wholeheartedly. So basically, my point is this: Anet killed this game by not updating it enough. Without enough content updates, or micro-transactions, or anything that normal, successful MMOs employ to keep their game active, this game died out. 15 minute zaishen wait times in HA, empty districts in PvE zones, etc... BEFORE the ban-o-mania. Just imagine what the future months will behold.

I would just like to note with this post, that the people that botted, didn't necessarily bot because they wanted a maxed title, or money, or fame, or glad, etc.. etc... Personally... I just didn't know what else to do... Second GWAMM? ok.. bot account wide titles (treasure, luxon.) Bot eotn titles. Who cares? I've done them already... If a game wants to combat botting, don't let the players get bored of said game. Honestly, running rupty and watching people rage was more fun than playing the game for what it is. If Anet sticks to this concept of an MMO.... even if it is more like WoW (.... zzzzz), who is going to play it? You think I'm gonna buy GW2 after filling my HoM legitimately, getting gwamm, r8, g3 legit? After 5000+ hours of gameplay? I can't imagine so. Because truthfully, with the effort put into GW1 in the last few years, why would I expect anything more from GW2 once they design it? A re-skinned, re-written WoW isn't going to do anyone any good, especially when the Arena Net team won't be adding new content updates every couple of months like WoW does... As BAD as WoW is... it's better than GW... because the designers actually give a damn. =/ sad news for Guild Wars today.

Generally... good luck GW community. - What's left of it, that is.
The Game... You lost it.

Lishy

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

I like how you try to make this sound like it's srsbsnss by giving it a a serious title.

Long rant short, you're overreacting. But I'm sure if I were to directly point out everything wrong with your post, you would overanalyze things in an attempt to defend this poor excuse of srsbsnss with a hugely unnecessary post. So I'll just leave it at this.


Oh, and who the hell writes an essay about a video game playerbase anyways?

FlyMoto

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2009

We have to get max GWAMM! Everyone else was doing it too! ANet forces people to bot - it was the only way to play the game!

If you are SO bored with the game that you feel you had nothing else to do but break rules, protip: get a new game, or go take a walk. BTW, I know/knew exactly where to get the bot(s). In an already ridiculously easy and dying game, I see no need to bot unless you really don't care what happens to your account. And surely, had I made the decision to bot, I would have expected it coming and been happy that I at least had an awesome ban (Dhuum!) and not just a screen telling me I can no longer access my account (which is what happened when I got banned from Diablo 2 years ago for botting, which I only used bots because I had zero interest in the game any more and the ban didn't bother me).

Anyway, one less person who feels they are owed everything using the server's resources. Maybe we'll get less lag from all of this? Either way, the whining from those banned in the mean time is entertaining.

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Lol @ the argument that people who didn't bot just didn't know where to find them.

Yes, google is extremely difficult to use!

SunfallE

SunfallE

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2009

West Texas

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trader of Secrets View Post
I dont think the 3700 account banned would constitute a ghost town, they werent "real" in the first place.
This. Seriously, bots aren't real players, just some program. I'll take real people over those any day, even if there aren't a lot of them. Though since I play mainly PvE I haven't noticed a change in how many people are around where I play. lol

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Lol yeah, I would consider a town full of bots more a 'ghost' town than a town with 1 actual player in it.

Voodoo Rage

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

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Quote:
Originally Posted by R_Frost View Post
also means 3700 less accounts bogging down Anet's servers, maybe a bit less ingame lag on big event weekends.
Good point. The last event weekend was horrendous due to raptor farming bots.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mort Mythoryk View Post
this wasn't a QQ post.. it was an awareness post..

"blah blah" is really all I read in your post there mate... flame away bro... I really could care less....

if you don't realize this game is dead... and is dying further... wow.

Botting was meta if 3700 people got banned for it bro... lawl.
No...no, it was a QQ post.

Favorite parts: claiming that 3700 people represent "nearly half" of the game community, and this:
Quote:
For those of you who didn't bot, you simply didn't know where to get it.
Because googling "guild wars bot" is just that hardcore, right? You leet hacker you.

/bye

Fallen Conspirator

Fallen Conspirator

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2010

Freelance Dervish

D/A

hehe inpsiration came from a post i saw on here earlier...

"they see me bottin'
They hatin'
They hopin' they catch me playing dirty
tryna' catch me playing dirty,
tryna' catch me playing dirty,
tryna' catch me play- OH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!"

"Connection with Server has been lost."
* YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED*

Ok, on-topic:

To OP:

seriously, botters/exploiters of game mechanics were one of the major reasons the game community died. You got what you had coming to you.
It sucks that you put so much time into it, but you will get no sympathy from myself or the majority of the posts here.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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So does this mean a botter just moved on to WoW?