Guild Wars: A ghost town in the making.
Pleikki
I shall pity all of u botting scums!
Nerel
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Lol wutz? Elves and orcs and talking trees and minotaurs and magc and paladins. Soz if that was sarcasm but seriously...
the concept of magic ahs beena round since humans, orcs was Tolkien's Invention... paladins was an age old Christian thing, minotaurs... from memorya greek/roman myth?? Elves... well that just... i mean... the way they are in Wow was tolkien, the name was like... Medievil? Again apologies if that was sarcasm... but if it wasn't your a fool. |
He also didn't use Orc and Goblin interchangeably, and even if he did, that's okay because he invented Goblins too!
And it's only sarcasm if you aren't talking to rabid Blizzard/Warcraft/WoW fans... you know, the tools that claim that Warhammer is copying the graphic style of WoW, while overlooking that Warcraft was originally a video game version of the Warhammer tabletop miniature game that got REJECTED by the folks at Games Workshop, so Blizzard kept the style/art and changed the names where applicable. Blizzard invented EVERYTHING that has EVER been done in ANY computer game, didn't you know?
Phaern Majes
All I can say is Guru community I love you guys! All the sarcasm and sassy wit is entertaining me to no end Seriously, glad these botters are leaving town, I may come back and pvp again.
shoyon456
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. There are still balance issues long since outstanding.
Juhgis
I have four letters for you guys. EULA. Nuff said.
Danzo Dattori
At least Im glad Guild Wars isn't turning into a Silkroad Online anytime soon.
vamp08
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For the last 3 years the NPD survey has had Guild Wars as the 3rd most played mmo.
#1 WoW #2 Runescape #3 Guild wars 2007, 2008, 2009. |
I give mad props to Andrew, he managed to beat a company backed by another, more large, company.
Sword Hammer Axe
Pfft. You know what, I don't care about PvE botters. They are simply lousy characters. I don't like PvP botters, because they actually ruin a gaming experience for other people.
But I will say that to everyone who has been botting: You were digging your own graves. Don't try and blame anything on Anet, because they are doing fine and it was YOU who broke the rules. When I see Dhuum comming your way, I will dance on your burning corpse. ^^
But I will say that to everyone who has been botting: You were digging your own graves. Don't try and blame anything on Anet, because they are doing fine and it was YOU who broke the rules. When I see Dhuum comming your way, I will dance on your burning corpse. ^^
Razon
Haha I love how things here work:
1. First lots of people complain about something
2. When anet does something about it, people complain even more about it
It's a vicious circle that never ends.
1. First lots of people complain about something
2. When anet does something about it, people complain even more about it
It's a vicious circle that never ends.
Da Bears
This is just sad. Can a forum moderator plz close this thread already? ^^
MithranArkanere
Gw is pretty healthy, thank you.
I've been seeing a lot of new people lately, thanks to Steam and friends of those that found it on Steam.
The main reason GW is played by so little people is marketing.
How many GW ads have you seen?
Compare that number with WoW ads. Those are everywhere.
When you get to know GW, if you have at least one sensible brain cell, you stay.
Wow is played because 'everybody else does'.
Runescape because 'nothing else better runs in my computer.
And Guild Wars because... they tried it.
I've been seeing a lot of new people lately, thanks to Steam and friends of those that found it on Steam.
The main reason GW is played by so little people is marketing.
How many GW ads have you seen?
Compare that number with WoW ads. Those are everywhere.
When you get to know GW, if you have at least one sensible brain cell, you stay.
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We were beaten' by Runescape for 3 straight years? I knew I had justification for playing that game for the same amount as guild wars.
I give mad props to Andrew, he managed to beat a company backed by another, more large, company. |
Runescape because 'nothing else better runs in my computer.
And Guild Wars because... they tried it.
belshazaarswrath
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Haha I love how things here work:
1. First lots of people complain about something 2. When anet does something about it, people complain even more about it It's a vicious circle that never ends. |
Anyhoo at this point it really doesn't matter. They're banned and theres not shit anyone can do about it. If you botted in this game clearly you had something more pressing to do than play the game anyway...so why not go fill your time with whatever that is?
jayson
So if we go to the UW, can we get to see the corpses of the botters laying all over the place?
cormac ap dunn
Grj
Trub
Sword Hammer Axe
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Gw is pretty healthy, thank you.
I've been seeing a lot of new people lately, thanks to Steam and friends of those that found it on Steam. The main reason GW is played by so little people is marketing. How many GW ads have you seen? Compare that number with WoW ads. Those are everywhere. When you get to know GW, if you have at least one sensible brain cell, you stay. |
Calling GW a dead game: Not knowing about it's success XD WD anet, truly.
Now if GW started making more tv-adds and such, how much do you think their profit would increase? >
Lagg
Killed u man
Are you guys really going to argue Guild Wars is a better game than WoW? Or even Runescape for that matter?
I understand where on GUILDWARSguru, but I thought anno 2010 people learned how not to be a fanboy and actually be objective when it comes down to rating games.
Guild Wars is (was) a good game, but to argue that it's better than WoW or Runescape is doing nothing more than only taking the few niches Guild Wars has, and letting those be the only priority in rating the games.
For example:
The storyline/missions in Guild Wars is amazing, by far the best of all 3, but the fact that it ends there (No end-game whatsoever) makes it undoubtingly the worse of the 3.
The fact that Guild Wars has the best graphics is a definite plus, but the fact that the game has no replayability whatsoever (Not even in PvP which has been shit ever since 2006/2007) gives you no reason whatsoever to keep admiring the astonishing graphics.
Guild Wars definatly has the edge on some aspects, but the fact that it's non-existent on some others simply can not make it the better game. As mentioned a million times before: Guild Wars was (is?) a PvP game from the ground up. It was designed as one, it was run as one for the first year (s) and the intire game is based on the fact that PvP is the end-game.
But since Anet abandonded PvP a long time ago the end-game died out, and Guild Wars lost it's only "ace".
And the more time passes by, the more this becomes apparent. WoW and Runescape communities have only increased/stagnated over the past 5 years, Guild Wars PvE community shrunk alot and the PvP community completely died out. (To the extend where the PvE community has overrun PvP (HA and even GvG) because there simply isn't any competition)
Guild Wars, anno 2010, is a "terrible" game to buy, unless for the casual gamer who wishes to nothing more than complete the storyline once. Every other person will find what they are looking for in other, better games.
I understand where on GUILDWARSguru, but I thought anno 2010 people learned how not to be a fanboy and actually be objective when it comes down to rating games.
Guild Wars is (was) a good game, but to argue that it's better than WoW or Runescape is doing nothing more than only taking the few niches Guild Wars has, and letting those be the only priority in rating the games.
For example:
The storyline/missions in Guild Wars is amazing, by far the best of all 3, but the fact that it ends there (No end-game whatsoever) makes it undoubtingly the worse of the 3.
The fact that Guild Wars has the best graphics is a definite plus, but the fact that the game has no replayability whatsoever (Not even in PvP which has been shit ever since 2006/2007) gives you no reason whatsoever to keep admiring the astonishing graphics.
Guild Wars definatly has the edge on some aspects, but the fact that it's non-existent on some others simply can not make it the better game. As mentioned a million times before: Guild Wars was (is?) a PvP game from the ground up. It was designed as one, it was run as one for the first year (s) and the intire game is based on the fact that PvP is the end-game.
But since Anet abandonded PvP a long time ago the end-game died out, and Guild Wars lost it's only "ace".
And the more time passes by, the more this becomes apparent. WoW and Runescape communities have only increased/stagnated over the past 5 years, Guild Wars PvE community shrunk alot and the PvP community completely died out. (To the extend where the PvE community has overrun PvP (HA and even GvG) because there simply isn't any competition)
Guild Wars, anno 2010, is a "terrible" game to buy, unless for the casual gamer who wishes to nothing more than complete the storyline once. Every other person will find what they are looking for in other, better games.
cormac ap dunn
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Are you guys really going to argue Guild Wars is a better game than WoW? Or even Runescape for that matter?
I understand where on GUILDWARSguru, but I thought anno 2010 people learned how not to be a fanboy and actually be objective when it comes down to rating games. Guild Wars is (was) a good game, but to argue that it's better than WoW or Runescape is doing nothing more than only taking the few niches Guild Wars has, and letting those be the only priority in rating the games. For example: The storyline/missions in Guild Wars is amazing, by far the best of all 3, but the fact that it ends there (No end-game whatsoever) makes it undoubtingly the worse of the 3. The fact that Guild Wars has the best graphics is a definite plus, but the fact that the game has no replayability whatsoever (Not even in PvP which has been shit ever since 2006/2007) gives you no reason whatsoever to keep admiring the astonishing graphics. Guild Wars definatly has the edge on some aspects, but the fact that it's non-existent on some others simply can not make it the better game. As mentioned a million times before: Guild Wars was (is?) a PvP game from the ground up. It was designed as one, it was run as one for the first year (s) and the intire game is based on the fact that PvP is the end-game. But since Anet abandonded PvP a long time ago the end-game died out, and Guild Wars lost it's only "ace". And the more time passes by, the more this becomes apparent. WoW and Runescape communities have only increased/stagnated over the past 5 years, Guild Wars PvE community shrunk alot and the PvP community completely died out. (To the extend where the PvE community has overrun PvP (HA and even GvG) because there simply isn't any competition) Guild Wars, anno 2010, is a "terrible" game to buy, unless for the casual gamer who wishes to nothing more than complete the storyline once. Every other person will find what they are looking for in other, better games. |
sixdartbart
Astindan
Gennadios
MArcSinus
I know fighting against this monk or mesmer bot might me extremely frustrating, but I like the idea of all the gold farm bots who are destroying the economy, walking away with all titles and our hard earned HoM bonusses even less..
Ninja Ninja
I don't like both but sometimes when playing against pvp bots there above human reflexes makes winning impossible and pvp has titles with HoM bonuses too.
vamp08
Bandwagon
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Dear Gurus,
Today, over 3700 accounts were banned due to botting and use of third-party programs. Let's take a moment and really break down how and why nearly half of the populous of this dying online community spontaneously combusted. |
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Arena-Net has offered us so many lovely content additions in the recent history, such as costumes, NPCs to talk trade useless crap for other useless crap, ways to change our character from a down-syndrome having asian infant, and finally the War in Kryta quest chain. These additions have molded the community from a dying game, to a dying game that the players realize won't get better. I understand GW2 is on the rise, but that's been the case for 2 years without any love for the original, and will continue to be the case for months to come. With this being said, what do the players with 3-5 years under their belt have to do? Repeat missions, vanqs, dungeons? Needlessly grind out speed clears (which Anet failed at attempting to shut down)? Or maybe participating in nerdy e-peen battles on a nightly basis with the same morons every night in HA? THIS my friends, is precisely why people bot. It makes the game fun again. Personally, I've achieved GWAMM, r8, g3 on my own, no bot help. I moved to PvP because there was nothing else left to do in PvE. When PvP becomes redundant, you simply move on (botting). An evolutionary process mediated by A-net themselves. |
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For those of you who didn't bot, you simply didn't know where to get it. Honestly, when something becomes meta (obviously botting was), this community of ours nestles into it wholeheartedly. So basically, my point is this: Anet killed this game by not updating it enough. Without enough content updates, or micro-transactions, or anything that normal, successful MMOs employ to keep their game active, this game died out. 15 minute zaishen wait times in HA, empty districts in PvE zones, etc... BEFORE the ban-o-mania. Just imagine what the future months will behold.
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I would just like to note with this post, that the people that botted, didn't necessarily bot because they wanted a maxed title, or money, or fame, or glad, etc.. etc... Personally... I just didn't know what else to do... Second GWAMM? ok.. bot account wide titles (treasure, luxon.) Bot eotn titles. Who cares? I've done them already... If a game wants to combat botting, don't let the players get bored of said game. Honestly, running rupty and watching people rage was more fun than playing the game for what it is. If Anet sticks to this concept of an MMO.... even if it is more like WoW (.... zzzzz), who is going to play it? You think I'm gonna buy GW2 after filling my HoM legitimately, getting gwamm, r8, g3 legit? After 5000+ hours of gameplay? I can't imagine so. Because truthfully, with the effort put into GW1 in the last few years, why would I expect anything more from GW2 once they design it? A re-skinned, re-written WoW isn't going to do anyone any good, especially when the Arena Net team won't be adding new content updates every couple of months like WoW does... As BAD as WoW is... it's better than GW... because the designers actually give a damn. =/ sad news for Guild Wars today.
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Thank you kind sir...
midnightduo1
i dont actually see a noticeable drop in the population...
lions arch is busy as always, alliance battles are still packed full of baddies and fun and gtob and stuff is still full
that and 3 of my friends came back to gw, so theres at least 3 more people that came back to gw because of the ban
i dont see no ghost town
ps: im no competitive pvper or hardcore farmer, so i may not see this big drop in player population if im not in the right places....wherever this place is
lions arch is busy as always, alliance battles are still packed full of baddies and fun and gtob and stuff is still full
that and 3 of my friends came back to gw, so theres at least 3 more people that came back to gw because of the ban
i dont see no ghost town
ps: im no competitive pvper or hardcore farmer, so i may not see this big drop in player population if im not in the right places....wherever this place is
Sword Hammer Axe
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i dont actually see a noticeable drop in the population...
lions arch is busy as always, alliance battles are still packed full of baddies and fun and gtob and stuff is still full that and 3 of my friends came back to gw, so theres at least 3 more people that came back to gw because of the ban i dont see no ghost town ps: im no competitive pvper or hardcore farmer, so i may not see this big drop in player population if im not in the right places....wherever this place is |
belshazaarswrath
cebalrai
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Dear Gurus,
I would just like to note with this post, that the people that botted, didn't necessarily bot because they wanted a maxed title, or money, or fame, or glad, etc.. etc... Personally... I just didn't know what else to do... |
And wow, you accuse the devs of banning botters because they don't care? In reality, ALLOWING botters would show they didn't care.
Aljasha
Imo the ban scythe,the latest skill updates, the wik slowly kicking off (bounties) and the latest dev announcement gave gw a significant boost in activity. I don't think that there are many more players, but many are returning and kryta is a new major spot for pugging again. i can only applaud anet for such a good move.
note: i am no advocate of dartboard buffs, but many buffed skills are not that overpowered and the meta is rejuvenating.
note: i am no advocate of dartboard buffs, but many buffed skills are not that overpowered and the meta is rejuvenating.
Sword Hammer Axe
Well, as always may be incorrect I admit What I meant is that even though a lotta people leave, more new people come, not to mention the fact that GW has been around for 5 years. Seriously any game would start declining after 5 years and compared to that fact, GW is actually doing better than I've ever woulda guessed when I first bought it 5 years ago.
JoeKnowMo
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Originally Posted by cebalrai
So when you were no longer entertained with GW, instead of quitting you became a cheater?
And wow, you accuse the devs of banning botters because they don't care? In reality, ALLOWING botters would show they didn't care. |
If you're bored, do play another MMO or another of the countless games being released every month.
Yep yep. Good luck navigating the trade channel in Kamadan.
belshazaarswrath
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Well, as always may be incorrect I admit What I meant is that even though a lotta people leave, more new people come, not to mention the fact that GW has been around for 5 years. Seriously any game would start declining after 5 years and compared to that fact, GW is actually doing better than I've ever woulda guessed when I first bought it 5 years ago.
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However I think the ban did piss away a lot of Guild Wars big wealth (rare mini's really really rare weapons). That's not really THAT huge of a deal though.
Sirius Bsns
The game's pretty much dead. So much that players converted over to NPCs long ago. Hence, all the bannings!
cosyfiep
if its a ghost town, WHY is there still so much LAG?????????????
belshazaarswrath
Lord Sojar
GW isn't a ghost town.
These threads are getting soooo old.
You cheat. You get banned. GO AWAY
These threads are getting soooo old.
You cheat. You get banned. GO AWAY