Update - 2/17

Life Bringing

Life Bringing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Fissure of Woe

[LOD]/[GS]/[DL]/[LOD*]

N/P



Lol

Dzjudz

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

Yeah you can keep ressing the same spirits over and over again for a few minutes. I guess that after that time their 'corpses' time out and disappear, making them unable to be ressed.

jayson

jayson

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiaquin View Post
There are many players who play through DP because, well, they die a lot (even in NM). Have you ever met an Obsidian Flesh warrior in Ember Light Camp asking for help? I hope that one I did finds this useful.
Not to be rude here but unless you're new to Guild Wars it's kind of hard to dye in NM unless you're soloing and have no clue as to what you're doing. Sounds like no one took the time to show this person what to do and this person never took the time to learn what to do. But that's for another thread.

My point was that while giving you the DP removal is nice, it's not exactly required because killing anything and everything in HM removes DP. If Asuran scan was still available as it was, that same person would be killing things before he died thereby not needing DP removal. Sure HM is just as playable without it but as a war, I can honestly say I'm going to miss it.

Owik Gall

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

Been testing with a warrior in singles combat with the scythe and it seemed stronger than it was before. The increase of the weapons inherent speed might be the reason why it feels that way. The dmg scale guy showed a difference as well; about 38 dmg on average without using skills except an IAS. Used brute force dmg skills spammed with Warrior's Endurance and the average almost doubled. The guy died in 7 secs with my set up, almost before I could Deep Wound him. It still lost the AoE impact that it had with andy /D builds before this update, but up close and personal... I was kinda wow'd. That's my personal experience, though. Just thought I'd put that up and let others try. Would be nice to see some other posts of how W/D's are now.

In the meantime, I'm going to try how the Warrior Hero treats it.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

dunno if anyone noticed this but the asuran scan reminds me of the one spirit skill. you know the skill when you die and turn into a ghost while you kill dhuum. xD

Dark Saviour

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Saviours of the Innocent

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by WarcryOfTruth View Post
Oh, God...

ATTN: ANet...
Do not touch this! >_>

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

8-man Ritualist team clearing UW with a spirit army - I want to see this.

Kunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2010

Summon spirits doesn't kill the duplicates, UBER ABUSE UWSC NOW! lol

EDIT: dupes do no damage, but do activate painful bond.

Life Bringing

Life Bringing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Fissure of Woe

[LOD]/[GS]/[DL]/[LOD*]

N/P

The copies dont deal damage. They only trigger painful bond

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleblade View Post
OMG! A-Net a How Dare You Lie to your People and instead of it being a upgrade its a total Derv Mega Nerf. Thats Going to Impress Your Long Trusted Players for GW2 Not!!
I Guess I'll Be Looking For A New Game cause all A-Net is about is Nerfing and Lies!!!
Oh Hai..
Welcome to Guild Wars

Before you leave..can i haz your stuffs?

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

That is pretty crazy. Hmm, what can we do with that....

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Life Bringing View Post
The copies dont deal damage. They only trigger painful bond
Gaze of Fury?

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Life Bringing View Post
The copies dont deal damage. They only trigger painful bond
they don't trigger spirit leech aura?

Life Bringing

Life Bringing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Fissure of Woe

[LOD]/[GS]/[DL]/[LOD*]

N/P

Havent tried spiritleech or gaze

WarcryOfTruth

WarcryOfTruth

Site Contributor

Join Date: Nov 2009

Atlanta

[LIFE]

P/

Also, how would having 3+++ Shelters up work? Would they all take damage or just one at a time? :O:O

dancing gnome

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

House of Wandering Souls

R/Rt

BOOOOM!!

Just took my shiny new (old) dervish out for a spin and BOOOOM!!! about sums it up. The update was awesome, I love how the class plays now. Flash enchants rock, adrenaline works awesome and finally reliable in-class ways to increase attack speed.

Great work Live Team.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

go go uw with rt and mega tons of coffee?

shadowstep runner

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2010

with the gods

Rise of Forsaken Gods [GODS]

D/A

hmm this will surly change my lvl 7 D/A running business rofl.... we will see if it works out good or dreafully XD.. lol good thing i got my youtube vid up a few weeks b4 update

Horus Moonlight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Me/Mo

Can someone try that spirit bug with agony?

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

What's the deal with the new Avatar of Grenth? It's like Tainted Flesh on acid (only less helpful in PvP since it doesn't actually protect your teammates).

Aldo wants more

Aldo wants more

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2008

Glesga, UK

trying battle for LA solo with painful bond, and this spirit bug..for the lol.

billypowergamer

billypowergamer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ensoriki View Post
they don't trigger spirit leech aura?
it seems to trigger sprit leech aura as well

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowstep runner View Post
hmm this will surly change my lvl 7 D/A running business rofl.... we will see if it works out good or dreafully XD.. lol good thing i got my youtube vid up a few weeks b4 update
Well for level 7 I dunno...but Pious Haste is fully maintainable for perma IMS. Doubt anything will chase after you at level 7.


Edit: Nvm, being retarded.
They should leave BuH the way it is, 60 damn seconds is how long it takes. It's awesome for Rit teams, already saw someone advertising for a buhway team.

LordDragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2010

Dragons Den

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
By Urals Hammer works on Spirits. Abuse it while you can

GOGO SOS + SOGM DUO
Yes, but when you bring the spirits back they only do 1/3rd the damage they did before they die. I tested it out several times.

EDIT - And yes, duplicating several times reduces the damage to zero.

mlandry

mlandry

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Me

I won't knock it until I try it but not the type of update I was looking for... I mean, did you really need to do that to Ural's?

Still, some of the dervish skills look nice but I just can't get over that. It was powerful but it's a PvE only skill!

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Intensity is sad since you basically need to do spike damage for it to be any good. If it were 50% more for EVERY spell it'd be different, but 50% for one spell every 10 seconds is not worth using for spammy skills.

50% will be good with Invoke though. (140 on casters = 70 on everything in nearby)

If anything it will be a buff to stuff like lightning orb, Stoning/Ebon hawk, Fireball, meteor, lightning hammer, rodgort's invocation.

Nice nerf to BuH and Asuran Scan. AoHM got hit bad.

byteme!

byteme!

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

On Earth

W/P

Tested it with a friend. The additional spirits don't do any damage and it appears when 1 gets hit each copy also takes the same amount of dmg. Nothing really changes, it's just a visual bug.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Heart of Fury is ridiculous. And is it just me or is Dust Cloak now better at inflicting blindness then Blinding Surge (an elite)?

Oh, and yeah I immediately thought of air magic with intensity. Chaining it with stuff that already does aoe like invoke seems viable.

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by byteme! View Post
Tested it with a friend. The additional spirits don't do any damage and it appears when 1 gets hit each copy also takes the same amount of dmg. Nothing really changes, it's just a visual bug.
Uhmm, Painfulbond and Spiritleech aura disagree with you.

Owik Gall

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

Been doing more tests with W/D scythe and also a pure Derv. On the plus side, Derv is actually more kill efficient than the W/D. There's still the W/D being more devastating than before the update, but not any better than a derv.

Hero AI is meh. They seldom use their Flash Enchantments, but when they do it's like chaos wearin skirts.

Firebaall

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

BUH:

It also works with summons and ranger pets. Flame Djinn army, or your own personal imp army!!!

I love this.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi View Post
Uhmm, Painfulbond and Spiritleech aura disagree with you.
I'd say it's best with Spiritleech aura since it doesn't care if the targets hexed or not but...PB will do some retarded damage if you can actually scrunge the enemies.

This is very interesting...I hope we at least have a week with this bug if not more.

Dark Saviour

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Saviours of the Innocent

R/

I'm getting... inconsistent results with the revived spirits.

Some of the time, they're hitting for zeros and triggering spiritleech for 15.
Other times, they'll hit for zero, but spiritleech won't register.
Yet other times, they're attacking, but no damage indicator is shown at all.

:-/

Not that I could take much advantage of this anyway... Playing R/Rt and just using H/H, so I can't keep more than a couple of sets up at a time. :-\

Arieon Ito

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

[One]

Rt/

I guess the BUH abuse will end when someone at Anet pops in and takes a look in here. Which will probably be around the time I get home from work. Darn, lol.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebaall View Post
BUH: Flame Djinn army, .
Best i got was 5 (yes pic has 4) but only seemed like 1 was attacking? doing damage?




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Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arieon Ito View Post
I guess the BUH abuse will end when someone at Anet pops in and takes a look in here. Which will probably be around the time I get home from work. Darn, lol.
There are plenty of us from the Krewe who are still loitering around to identify, confirm, and report all of the bugs you all are sharing with us.

PowerRAV

PowerRAV

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Missouri (Central Time Zone)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
There are plenty of us from the Krewe who are still loitering around to identify, confirm, and report all of the bugs you all are sharing with us.


SPYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P

On another note I'm wondering if BuH works on allies like say Livia / Gadd during that one quest.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Possibly, anyways for the most part it's ineffective unless used in a team..atleast for a secondary rit. With the spirits doing no damage unless you boost them with PB and spirit leech aura, your bar starts to suffer. Raising enough spirits also just sadly does not happen. If anything while you can kill something quick with a spirit spike, it's more efficient (if solo farming with a /rt) to do just one spirit.
They make for decent body blocking though.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
There are plenty of us from the Krewe who are still loitering around to identify, confirm, and report all of the bugs you all are sharing with us.
Identify, confirm and report that Pious Haste is making my sin cry whenever it looks at Dash.
Where the hell was the obligatory 51% Dash or 60% dash

novawhiz

novawhiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

A/

BUH Will revive:

-Dead spirits
-Dead Summons from skill
-Dead summons from stone

Will not revive:
-Minions


Me + Friend have been going crazy. 10+ ruby djinns + a million spirits is lol stomping everything and anything. hoping to clear entire UW + dhuum before update lol