Chapter 3? - Guild Wars NightFall
My Sweet Revenga
When I think of nightfall, I think it'd be great if while you were adventuring, everything suddenly got a lot darker and enemies started comin out of the woodwork or got tougher. Anybody who's played Castlevania 2 or watched the Silent Hill movie will know what I'm talking about. So maybe day and night cycles would occur every 4 real world hours? Man if this does get implemented, I hope we don't see towns packed with cowering players who don't wanna go out in the dark Man imagine the trade spam every 4 hours. Night market anyone?
Another possibility, maybe they'll have another alliance system where instead of luxons vs kurzicks, it's dark vs light where you can push your light or dark influence across the land depending on which areas you own. And you would have new 1.5k or 15k light or dark armour where if you're wearing light armor and you're in light areas, you gain +10 armor, but get -10 armor if you're in darkness. Now this or course sounds neat on paper. But seeing as how the line between current luxon and kurzick territories barely moves anywhere, the system would probably need a serious overhaul so that territories and influence would actually do move around more.
Another possibility, maybe they'll have another alliance system where instead of luxons vs kurzicks, it's dark vs light where you can push your light or dark influence across the land depending on which areas you own. And you would have new 1.5k or 15k light or dark armour where if you're wearing light armor and you're in light areas, you gain +10 armor, but get -10 armor if you're in darkness. Now this or course sounds neat on paper. But seeing as how the line between current luxon and kurzick territories barely moves anywhere, the system would probably need a serious overhaul so that territories and influence would actually do move around more.
X Crusader
You wanna know what I think? I think this new chapter will take place in Orr. My reasons being:
Look in your manuscripts (prophecies):
Connections between Orr and Africa?
- Arah. Now doesn't that sound like the type of theme they're shooting for here?
- The lore also mentions Lost Scrolls. Sound familiar? I thought so.
Cataclysm = Nightfall?
- Quote:
"The beautiful city of Arah was consumed. What’s left above water now lies in a pile of ruins, blackened by the Cataclysm and years of neglect. All that remains in the wreckage of Orr are the wandering dead—those souls unable to rest in the shadow of this great disaster."
-Quote: History of Tyria, Volume 1
"The resulting explosion sank the entire peninsula and sent enough dirt into the air to blot out the sun for a hundred days." OMG HOW OBVIOUS CAN IT GET =)
The world and its population?
- The world can only be so big. Adding even more lands would mean less people per outpost, and there are already so few as is! (look at the Jade Quarry, pssht) And since there are so many empty spaces in Tyria, they should add it right there, where it's supposed to be, beside the Crystal Desert!
XC
EDIT: After doing some research on Encyclopedia.com,
ARAH [Arah] . In the Bible, family in the return from the Exile.
This could mean that Chapter 3 is about the people of Orr returning to their land.
Look in your manuscripts (prophecies):
Connections between Orr and Africa?
- Arah. Now doesn't that sound like the type of theme they're shooting for here?
- The lore also mentions Lost Scrolls. Sound familiar? I thought so.
Cataclysm = Nightfall?
- Quote:
"The beautiful city of Arah was consumed. What’s left above water now lies in a pile of ruins, blackened by the Cataclysm and years of neglect. All that remains in the wreckage of Orr are the wandering dead—those souls unable to rest in the shadow of this great disaster."
-Quote: History of Tyria, Volume 1
"The resulting explosion sank the entire peninsula and sent enough dirt into the air to blot out the sun for a hundred days." OMG HOW OBVIOUS CAN IT GET =)
The world and its population?
- The world can only be so big. Adding even more lands would mean less people per outpost, and there are already so few as is! (look at the Jade Quarry, pssht) And since there are so many empty spaces in Tyria, they should add it right there, where it's supposed to be, beside the Crystal Desert!
XC
EDIT: After doing some research on Encyclopedia.com,
ARAH [Arah] . In the Bible, family in the return from the Exile.
This could mean that Chapter 3 is about the people of Orr returning to their land.
Guardian Rohan
Bet u all 100k that this part of Guild Wars is based around Cynn, like how Chp2 was based around Mhenlo
Horseman Of War
1.As for the Assassin/Ritualist-
It should be obvious to anyone, that the only way we will get more skills for these classes will be through game updates (think sorrow's furnace) for Factions itself.
2.As for the "more content" - Duh. That means it will be a bigger game than Factions, it doesnt mean it will add more content to chapter 1 and 2. This goes against the concept of modular expansions. What we will get for the 6 core classes will be similar to how Factions handled it... a new 'core' set for that specific gameworld. We will see about the same amount of new skills that we saw in Factions.
3.I doubt (even though itd be cool) that we will see the "implemented day/night cycle" - that would be a lame way to start this new chapter off. As the one guy quoted above, the land of Orr is in darkness.
People really need to think about their little ideas, because if the Mod Team for Nightfall was people from these forums, I think the game would suck. People have no clue as to the structure of the game engine...
It should be obvious to anyone, that the only way we will get more skills for these classes will be through game updates (think sorrow's furnace) for Factions itself.
2.As for the "more content" - Duh. That means it will be a bigger game than Factions, it doesnt mean it will add more content to chapter 1 and 2. This goes against the concept of modular expansions. What we will get for the 6 core classes will be similar to how Factions handled it... a new 'core' set for that specific gameworld. We will see about the same amount of new skills that we saw in Factions.
3.I doubt (even though itd be cool) that we will see the "implemented day/night cycle" - that would be a lame way to start this new chapter off. As the one guy quoted above, the land of Orr is in darkness.
People really need to think about their little ideas, because if the Mod Team for Nightfall was people from these forums, I think the game would suck. People have no clue as to the structure of the game engine...
J snukka
actually the concept of night wouldn't suck. At night if different foes come out and are harder to fight will be cool. They can do something with this, like have ultimate bosses appear at night and drop really good modded weapons, making them rarer than any weapon/item in the game.
remember Anet said that each game will be unique in its own way.
remember Anet said that each game will be unique in its own way.
Ariana Of Damia
Ensui
Fun Fact: There is all ready a map in Guild Wars (Factions) that alternates from day-to-night.
Go to Senji's corner, walk SW from Senji himself towards the corner with the pile of trash. The sky will change to night and the moon will pop out of nowhere.
Looks really goofy and lame.
Go to Senji's corner, walk SW from Senji himself towards the corner with the pile of trash. The sky will change to night and the moon will pop out of nowhere.
Looks really goofy and lame.
Glasswalker
I think everyone is exactly backward on this. Nightfall is the moment when day changes to night. I expect that the desert is is permanent daylight and the heroes need to bring about 'Nightfall'.
As far as continental similarities go, African tribes are historically big on trade, so it would be logical for this expansion to include the Auction/similar functionality that Gaile has mentioned in the past.
I personally don't hate the idea of mounts, but if the concensus is against it, what do you think of Dungeon Siege style pack animals? Otherwise, I would restrict it to a class, like knights and their chargers (or Saracens, given the location) or Rangers and their Pets.
As far as continental similarities go, African tribes are historically big on trade, so it would be logical for this expansion to include the Auction/similar functionality that Gaile has mentioned in the past.
I personally don't hate the idea of mounts, but if the concensus is against it, what do you think of Dungeon Siege style pack animals? Otherwise, I would restrict it to a class, like knights and their chargers (or Saracens, given the location) or Rangers and their Pets.
Ariana Of Damia
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Originally Posted by Ensui
Fun Fact: There is all ready a map in Guild Wars (Factions) that alternates from day-to-night.
Go to Senji's corner, walk SW from Senji himself towards the corner with the pile of trash. The sky will change to night and the moon will pop out of nowhere. Looks really goofy and lame. |
Thanks for the FYI
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gamecube187
Somewhere in this post, it said there were hints about factions in prophecies.
Where were they??? I didn't see any...
As for the mounts, I agree that they shouldn't be in. Think of a npc on one, it would agro anything within ur radar with the mount... Monk nightmare....
And that would be cool if there is an expansion where we have to go to the mists or watever where the mursat first were, tho that might be to hard....
As for expansion pack 3, since there are so many open spots in tryia, I think that it should take up those open spots, its just that in order to access those new areas, you would need to buy the expansion. Arena Net could block off the new areas with doors similar to the ones they use in factions. I'm pretty sure there would be more than enough room in tyria for a new, huge, area...
Where were they??? I didn't see any...
As for the mounts, I agree that they shouldn't be in. Think of a npc on one, it would agro anything within ur radar with the mount... Monk nightmare....
And that would be cool if there is an expansion where we have to go to the mists or watever where the mursat first were, tho that might be to hard....
As for expansion pack 3, since there are so many open spots in tryia, I think that it should take up those open spots, its just that in order to access those new areas, you would need to buy the expansion. Arena Net could block off the new areas with doors similar to the ones they use in factions. I'm pretty sure there would be more than enough room in tyria for a new, huge, area...
GloryFox
“It was as if Night Fell upon us”.
Crimson Skull leader asking for help
“It was as if the day changed to Night”
caretaker of the Maat Shrine
I am now convinced the Nightfall term is used to describe the many chaos portals that will open in Elonia. I really believe this after the mini quest on Shing Jea island I believe that TOPK was a precursor event for Nightfall and we did not realize it at the time. Maybe the Event Horizon at TOPK had a bigger impact then we thought? Wasn't TOPK built by the Elonians?
Crimson Skull leader asking for help
“It was as if the day changed to Night”
caretaker of the Maat Shrine
I am now convinced the Nightfall term is used to describe the many chaos portals that will open in Elonia. I really believe this after the mini quest on Shing Jea island I believe that TOPK was a precursor event for Nightfall and we did not realize it at the time. Maybe the Event Horizon at TOPK had a bigger impact then we thought? Wasn't TOPK built by the Elonians?
awesome sauce
I wonder if it's anything like the upcoming mmo, DarkFall.
Ariana Of Damia
But what were the clues pertaining to Factions?
What clues were in Prophesies?
Kali Magdalene
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Originally Posted by GloryFox
“It was as if Night Fell upon us”.
Crimson Skull leader asking for help “It was as if the day changed to Night” caretaker of the Maat Shrine I am now convinced the Nightfall term is used to describe the many chaos portals that will open in Elonia. I really believe this after the mini quest on Shing Jea island I believe that TOPK was a precursor event for Nightfall and we did not realize it at the time. Maybe the Event Horizon at TOPK had a bigger impact then we thought? Wasn't TOPK built by the Elonians? |
"One moment I was moving to claim the center of the Hal; the next, darkness filled my vision and twisted, nightmarish creatures erupted from everywhere at once."
I actually was messing around in the Tombs the day before the event started, and read that text. It made me wonder if this does have anything to do with Nightfall.
pixel.summoner
I'm sure there's probably a post or two in here that may have these tidbits posted already, but I periodicly check another favorite GW site for info concerning Chapter 3, they were good about keeping on Factions news, i'm sure they can do it again for Nightfall.
Anyhow, here's what I will add to the pile of speculation and crowd buzz:
IGN Reports
May 11 2006
"Starting on a rocky beach, the demo focused on a somewhat run-down dock and a massive, swan-shaped ship with sails that looked like dragonfly wings. From there the game transitions to a North Africa style savannah. Green trees, rocky outcrops and gaily painted mud huts decorate the landscape. We soon traveled to a very interesting windmill that had a hawk-like figure on its top."
GameSpy Reports:
May 11 2006
"The scene then shifted to a much larger, grander city filled with minarets and pointed roofs that more resembled classic Persian styles. That was confirmed as the camera sped toward the center of the city to reveal a stunning collection of vegetation and artfully arranged waterfalls that put me in mind of the famous Hanging Gardens of Babylon -- literally in this case as some of the plants were floating in planters magically hovering above the ground."
both/all found here.
http://www.crossingtyria.com/v2/inde...45&Item id=66
now, sure sure this may be regurgitated (sic) from a previous post, if not.. cool. If so, oh well.
But I appeal to the idea of a Babylonian setting, especially floating planters, (I want that for my own house!)
Another thing that also dawned on me is that the Tengu were really fleshed out alot more in Factions, and there's alot of nice storyline to work with. They also dress very tribal (by nature) to begin with. It could work to some advantage here for Nightfall perhaps? Hell, i'd even raise a brow if there was actually a new playable race finally. It could happen.
Anyhoo, i'm just throwing a few crumbs into the pile here. I liked the two paragraphs describing what has been seen so far for Chapter 3. And I also like a few people's ideas of druid or animal (shapeshifter) ideas.. (perhaps an Amazon [Diablo-eqsue] class would be interesting, come on it's not unique to just Diablo either, it could happen!) there's alot of good ideas, and alot of not-so good ideas. But ultimately, I being on the positive/optimistic side here, will be looking forward to Nightfall no matter what.
So, about those floating planters...
Anyhow, here's what I will add to the pile of speculation and crowd buzz:
IGN Reports
May 11 2006
"Starting on a rocky beach, the demo focused on a somewhat run-down dock and a massive, swan-shaped ship with sails that looked like dragonfly wings. From there the game transitions to a North Africa style savannah. Green trees, rocky outcrops and gaily painted mud huts decorate the landscape. We soon traveled to a very interesting windmill that had a hawk-like figure on its top."
GameSpy Reports:
May 11 2006
"The scene then shifted to a much larger, grander city filled with minarets and pointed roofs that more resembled classic Persian styles. That was confirmed as the camera sped toward the center of the city to reveal a stunning collection of vegetation and artfully arranged waterfalls that put me in mind of the famous Hanging Gardens of Babylon -- literally in this case as some of the plants were floating in planters magically hovering above the ground."
both/all found here.
http://www.crossingtyria.com/v2/inde...45&Item id=66
now, sure sure this may be regurgitated (sic) from a previous post, if not.. cool. If so, oh well.
But I appeal to the idea of a Babylonian setting, especially floating planters, (I want that for my own house!)
Another thing that also dawned on me is that the Tengu were really fleshed out alot more in Factions, and there's alot of nice storyline to work with. They also dress very tribal (by nature) to begin with. It could work to some advantage here for Nightfall perhaps? Hell, i'd even raise a brow if there was actually a new playable race finally. It could happen.
Anyhoo, i'm just throwing a few crumbs into the pile here. I liked the two paragraphs describing what has been seen so far for Chapter 3. And I also like a few people's ideas of druid or animal (shapeshifter) ideas.. (perhaps an Amazon [Diablo-eqsue] class would be interesting, come on it's not unique to just Diablo either, it could happen!) there's alot of good ideas, and alot of not-so good ideas. But ultimately, I being on the positive/optimistic side here, will be looking forward to Nightfall no matter what.
So, about those floating planters...
xXa1
i believe it will be called Nightfall because it will be the advent of The Darkness. this will also explain why in both Tyria and Cantha, Rifts of Darkness are spawning everywhere bringing into the land Grasps and other denizens of the Underworld.
Matix411
Dunno if this is of much use, they have a conceptual image though, looks interesting.
Floating Mosque eh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild_Wars_Nightfall
Floating Mosque eh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild_Wars_Nightfall
Moch
New Focus Items:
Pocket Lamp
Energy -10 (Hey, we need energy for those batteries!)
Your view expands.
Nightfall. It's dark, we NEED light =)
Or maybe we get them miners helm's with a light on. I prefer a yellow one xD
Pocket Lamp
Energy -10 (Hey, we need energy for those batteries!)
Your view expands.
Nightfall. It's dark, we NEED light =)
Or maybe we get them miners helm's with a light on. I prefer a yellow one xD
Valyrian_Steel
How is that a mosque? Doesn't look like any mosque I have seen...A floating castle more like.
With pvp arena's like Fort Aspenwood in Factions it looks like castle seigeing would be easily implemented and would rock my world. CASTLE SIEGES PLEASE!
With pvp arena's like Fort Aspenwood in Factions it looks like castle seigeing would be easily implemented and would rock my world. CASTLE SIEGES PLEASE!
widowdaballa
Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
“It was as if Night Fell upon us”.
Crimson Skull leader asking for help “It was as if the day changed to Night” caretaker of the Maat Shrine I am now convinced the Nightfall term is used to describe the many chaos portals that will open in Elonia. I really believe this after the mini quest on Shing Jea island I believe that TOPK was a precursor event for Nightfall and we did not realize it at the time. Maybe the Event Horizon at TOPK had a bigger impact then we thought? Wasn't TOPK built by the Elonians? |
GranDeWun
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Originally Posted by Valyrian_Steel
How is that a mosque? Doesn't look like any mosque I have seen...A floating castle more like.
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pixel.summoner
Quote:
Originally Posted by xXa1
i believe it will be called Nightfall because it will be the advent of The Darkness. this will also explain why in both Tyria and Cantha, Rifts of Darkness are spawning everywhere bringing into the land Grasps and other denizens of the Underworld.
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Remember it?
Something to think about.. good eye
ubrikkean
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Rohan
Bet u all 100k that this part of Guild Wars is based around Cynn, like how Chp2 was based around Mhenlo
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Erasculio
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian Rohan
Bet u all 100k that this part of Guild Wars is based around Cynn, like how Chp2 was based around Mhenlo
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That's one of the many "silent" improvements that Factions have over Prophecies that usually go unseen by most people.
Erasculio
d3kst3r
With Cantha, they introduced Taiwanese players... maybe with Nightfall they'll introduce the Africa region into the game.
"Africa has won a battle in the Hall of Heroes and keeps the favor of the gods in Africa!"
EDIT: I hope we don't start seeing Nigerian scammers everywhere.
"Africa has won a battle in the Hall of Heroes and keeps the favor of the gods in Africa!"
EDIT: I hope we don't start seeing Nigerian scammers everywhere.
Vvon
Hahahaha.
I bet from the lil' preview for Chp.3 (look on google) I'll put my money on Devona.
Something about her father...
Won't delve to deep.
I bet from the lil' preview for Chp.3 (look on google) I'll put my money on Devona.
Something about her father...
Won't delve to deep.
Vahn Roi
I got this when I looked up nightfall on google.
Looks the Kryta and what's with the PS2 Control buttons?
BTW does no one have actual links to the concept art of the new classes?
Looks the Kryta and what's with the PS2 Control buttons?
BTW does no one have actual links to the concept art of the new classes?
Nevin
It won't be Cynn, you know why? Cynn's character is way too cocky to the be "Hero" like ol' Melon Ho, as I like to call him. It would be Aidan, Devona, Eva (Probably not), or someone a bit more mature...
Vahn Roi
I would hate that...
samifly
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
I got this when I looked up nightfall on google.
Looks the Kryta and what's with the PS2 Control buttons? BTW does no one have actual links to the concept art of the new classes? |
pixel.summoner
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
I got this when I looked up nightfall on google.
Looks the Kryta and what's with the PS2 Control buttons? BTW does no one have actual links to the concept art of the new classes? |
Those players they're overlooking Divinity Coasts' bridge to the left, the rest are just village huts. You actually grab villagers there on your way to finding 5 chosen.. In fact you can see this from the mission outpost before going in.
aaaaand samifly just said that above, go me! (sorry, i've a habit of missing some posts when I reply )
rong626
probalby semons attack cantha and tyria..blah blah sky turned dark coz of too much evil..
darrylhaines
Look what I found on google....
http://www.rpgfan.com/previews/guild-wars/
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/guildwars/index.html
http://www.rpgfan.com/previews/guild-wars/
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/guildwars/index.html
bpphantom
Quote:
Originally Posted by pixel.summoner
Interesting speculation, and I recall the abundance of nighttime when doing the 4man tougher quest that the Captain has been calling upon people for.
Remember it? Something to think about.. good eye |
Tetris L
Quote:
Originally Posted by darrylhaines
Look what I found on google....
http://www.rpgfan.com/previews/guild-wars/ http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/guildwars/index.html |
Great find, Sherlock!
Tetris L
Here is a German report about the E3 2006 preview of C3. Let me translate a small bit of it:
Hmmm ... evil comes with unnatural dark sky ... Nightfall anyone?
Quote:
Then, just for a few seconds, we saw a very different picture: A dark, ravaged world [... ] with the sky unnaturally darkened. "This is where evil comes from." is what Mike [O'Brien] simply states. |
ilovecp
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
Here is a German report about the E3 2006 preview of C3. Let me translate a small bit of it:
Hmmm ... evil comes with unnatural dark sky ... Nightfall anyone? |
Tetris L
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovecp
What's up with that bloody doll?!
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darrylhaines
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Originally Posted by Tetris L
A two year old preview of GuildWars (the original GuildWars that is) and two year old screenshots from early beta.
Great find, Sherlock! |
I saw the new/different monsters and thought it was from Nightfall (Hey, I didn't do the beta so how was I to know that the monsters that I have never seen before weren't from Nightfall lol. The Link was for Guild Wars Nightfall from google as well.)
natuxatu
~ Release Date ~
I was reading 1up and saw they had the release date as feb 07... is that about right? I was lead to believe (dont' remember how) that it would be out around October....
I was reading 1up and saw they had the release date as feb 07... is that about right? I was lead to believe (dont' remember how) that it would be out around October....