[MERGED - OFFICIAL] Dueling aka 1v1

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Guild Master
Academy Page
#141
Guild Wars is the title, but the Guild part feels a little broken. If you put something that has an MMO aspect in the title, then spend half of the time focusing on that aspect. World of Warcraft had every little detail of the Warcraft world in the game(hence the title). This idea will put the Guild back in Guild Wars.
Lampshade
Lampshade
Wilds Pathfinder
#142
gah I want Guld practice.

WE need more stuff for Guilds
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Bloods
Pre-Searing Cadet
#143
What I suggest Guild Wars should add is a system in the guild hall where you and your guild can make teams and duel each other for practice so you and your team can figure out different strageties with each other to use to duel other guilds or teams(but it wont effect faction or experience points just incase your cheating ). It should be in the form of Tomb of Primevals or Team Arenas except only you and your guild members are aloud. Just for practice for the people that are not ready to go out to the public and show their skills.
What do you all think?
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speedtouch
Frost Gate Guardian
#144
Yea, thats a great idea! I agree /signed
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KelvinC
Frost Gate Guardian
#145
although suggested but still a important idea to implement
raven214
raven214
Krytan Explorer
#146
I've been thinking about this for a while, and I'd really like to see it added -- some form of 1v1 arena. I'm not talking about guild scrimages, 1v1 or otherwise, so please leave that out of this thread.

Here's the idea: Imagine a 1v1 arena. It has it's own starting zone, just like the 4v4/teams/HoH does now. There's a 2nd part to it though. Specatators may enter - there would be an entrance fee - and they could watch the battles. It could be 1v1 PvP, PvE (NPC gladiators), and/or PvE (creatures like hydras, golems, drakes, etc). Maybe if someone got on a long winning streak, they would start to face tougher challenges like 1v2, or having to fight "blind" or "bleeding" and so on.

I know GW is not necessarily balanced for 1v1, but think of it this way: there were certain types of fighters in the Roman Colosseum... i.e. you probably wouldn't have seen a monk. Because of this, I wouldn't make the reward for winning in 1v1 very much if anything at all... it would be more for bragging rights and entertainment/reason to spend gold. You could even allow the spectators to gamble on the fights (assuming that's technically feasible).

What does everyone think?
EmperorTippy
EmperorTippy
Jungle Guide
#147
like it. its been mentioned numerous times before. My monk can kill anyone or thing who doesn't have heavy enchant stripping so monks should be allowed.
raven214
raven214
Krytan Explorer
#148
Right, I think all classes should be allowed. I was trying to use the monk as an example (but prob failed miserably.... it's late and I'm 1/4 awake ) to say this: when you think of gladiators, you think of roughly a warrior type. Since dueling isn't the focus/point of GW, there may be unbalances, but keeping the reward small makes this more for entertainment and I think could be really interesting from a RP aspect too.
EmperorTippy
EmperorTippy
Jungle Guide
#149
Hey I would love it. Just pointing out that a monk can be the ultimate solo warrior. I mean what other classes can solo the underworld?
Sarus
Sarus
Ministry of Technology
#150
This is far from an original idea and has been posted many many times already. In fact it was posted earlier today in the gladiators arena here

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=36766

Here are a few more 1v1 arena posts just in case you think this hasn't been covered.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/...highlight=arena

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/...highlight=arena

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/...highlight=arena

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/...highlight=arena

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/...highlight=arena

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/...highlight=arena

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/...highlight=arena

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I think you get the idea. No need to bring it up once again and if you weren't aware that this topic has been beaten to death then please learn to use the search function. Help keep the forums clutter free.
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KelvinC
Frost Gate Guardian
#151
This demostrated to arena.net there is a need for it.
raven214
raven214
Krytan Explorer
#152
Thanks for pointing that out, Sarus. Just for the record, I have and do use the search function a lot. However, when you try searching for "1v1", you get the "very common, too long, or too short" message. So that leaves you with a ton of "arena" threads to sift through. :/
Sarus
Sarus
Ministry of Technology
#153
Yeah sometimes it can be hard to search for what you want. I have anunfair advantage cause I've been reading the forums since guru launched.

I did a search for "arena" in the Sardelac Sanitarium forum only (the suggestion forum) and then just looked for titles that said 1v1 in them. I think I started seeing them on the first or second page of results.

Anyway, I can understand how if you're new to the forums you won't realize your post is uber redundant. Sorry for coming across rude.
Arcador
Arcador
Wilds Pathfinder
#154
We once made 1v1 tournament with Unrated Guild match

It was pretty cool you know, it is now JUST like rock, scissor, paper. Like 1 elementalist was owning BAD but then the last match the ranger dazed him and then the E died. There was no pure healing monk - all were at least 10 atrib smiters...and almost everyone was wearing enchanment remover / condition remover

Next match part (another unrated after skill change) the Elementalist got new strategy - he begined to cast a Long spell, but canceled it so the Ranger lost his concission shot BUT was wearing dryader's defences thus survived all the impact while the ele was hoping to gather 10 mana fast :P

In 1v1 the LUCK and DECK have bigger advantage.
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Lord Malikai
Frost Gate Guardian
#155
All I can think of when I see threads like these is this one random arena fight I was in. It was of course, a 4v4 and 3 members on each of our teams had died, leaving only 1 W/Mo fighting another W/Mo. After about 4 minutes of fighting, everyone else but me dropped. I decided I wanted to watch, however after 10 minutes of watching them beat on each other and heal up, I went to the bathroom to take a #2. I'm a guy, and I like to do things right, so of course, I was in the bathroom for 10 minutes. When I came back, they were still fighting. The only change was the stream of chat between the two had grown nastier, each stating various reasons why his build was better than the others. Some random your mommas insults were in there as well. I watched for another 5 minutes or so then decided it was a good half hour of my life I will never get back. So I logged out too.
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KelvinC
Frost Gate Guardian
#156
Actually it will make a difference if each 1v1 player is given 10 skills slot instead of 8.

It is because they can get a more well-rounded build. The rock, scissor, paper effect will be minimized. More individual skill will be promoted.

For that WMo vs WMo forever thing, if they know they are going to build a 1v1 charcter, I think they will get a Hammer combo build with smite
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Death Vengeance
Pre-Searing Cadet
#157
My humble suggestion is that there should be a "Dueling Arena". This would be a 1v1 arena where you could challenge another player....aka (the one who mouths off throughout a mission). This could settle so many umm arguments. No need for faction of fame in this, just Respect...LOL. What you guys think?
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Magus
Lion's Arch Merchant
#158
I don't like it as an "arena" because Guild Wars simply isn't balanced for 1v1. For example, a mesmer will be the best, and in some cases, a monk will be unkillable. So as a form of PvP itself, then I disagree, but if you want it to settle arguments, then at best, it will probably have to be implemented very casually, not as an "official arena," probably similar to (please don't flame me for this ) the duels in WoW that can occur just about any time. And again, PvP is not balanced for 1v1, so it's very unlikely that the duels will be implemented either. So basically, sorry, it's not going to happen.

Also, if you're trying to duel a griefer or a n00b to settle a dispute, even if you win, they'll still continue with their retardation. This occurs in just about every other MMOG:
"OMG you play so lame!"
"WTFZOMG that skill is too cheap! no using it!!"
"nuh uh!! even though I lost and am obviously the retarded n00b, I'm still going to whine like a little bitch!!11!!one11one!one"
slasc
slasc
Academy Page
#159
How about a generic 1v1 up to 8v8 arena where you and your opponents could choose each other ahead of time?


and no faction, etc.
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Killajalavu
Academy Page
#160
Well, I don't care what people do, but I've experienced stupid crap in other games that had "dueling" abilities

Having a lvl 20 Mouth off to a Lvl 5 what is there to do about it?
Then having people saying 999999 times

DUEL OR STFU begins to get irritating, and annoying. I dunno...might just be me.