The Biggest Jerk You Ever Encountered in GW (no posting names)

Wonder if I was one of the necros in your group yesterday, coolsti? Sounds a lot like the party I was with.

What I hate is the one who maps out after verbally abusing the party, usually a monk (sorry if you're one of the 'good' healers). Today we were in Abaddon's Mouth with one live healer and a hench monk. Personally, I did not notice the healer doing much of anything, healing or otherwise. The first set of bosses, Willa the Pissed Off Monk and the randomly spawned one, nearly did us in except for the monk who had held back away from the group. While we were trying to gather our strategy, the monk started complaining that an all hench team was better and we were n00bs, etc. She then mapped out.

Couldn't help it, when I got back to the outpost, I groused off about the monk leaving. She started a little verbal sparring session on the open channel, how we were all stupid, yaddayadda. It ended with my saying that a deserter was still a deserter, regardless. She left and I made a note of her name never to group with her again.

Oddly enough, I regrouped with a team with one live healer and Mhenlo. I was running my blood nec who can help heal (though very limited, I try and the monks who notice seem to appreciate it). We maintained teamwork and won through in the end. And *this* monk was fantastic!!!!

So, instead of letting him know what happened and paying him, you proved him right. You are a scammer.

yup. i hate scammers....

Here's one from yesterday.

Me: LFP
Necro: LET ME JOIN!!!!!!
Me: Sure
Necro: YOUR ONLY LEVEL 16!!!!!!
Me: Yes and what about it?
Necro: ^ = Noob
Me: ^ Baka Yairo
Necro: WTF IS THAT SHIT
Me: It's just a way of complimenting you. Baka-kun
Necro: COOL!!!!
Me: No problem baka-kun.
Necro: LETS GO!!!!!!!
Me: Not yes kisama.

And it goes on like that for a while.

I am bad in remembering names, but I think you might have been one of the Necros in the mission with me.

Well, I had a similar situation happen last night. Got a friends group together to do the new Tombs, we were me as Ranger, 2 Necros (one minion master, one SS), one fire Elem, one Warrior. Since we didn't want to chance it with human monks who might get ticked off and leave, and since there were more parties looking for monks than there were monks, we signed up the two henchy monks. Then we wanted a Mesmer in the group, and found someone advertising himself as "pro mesmer". Soon as he got into the group, first thing he said was kick the henchy monks. Heh heh, my response was, "why, do you know two monks that want to join us?". He kept on about we should kick the henchies and get real people. Now, we were a friends group that enjoy playing together, and have more of a goal of having fun together than farming for greens, and I was getting a bit afraid that this guy's attitude was not going to mix with the rest of us. So I kicked him rather than the henchy monks. We found another Mesmer who wound up to be more like us in attitude and playing style. We had a great time, and completed the 4 levels with hardly a death among us.

The jerk in this story? Hmmm. Me maybe for kicking the first mesmer that didn't seem to fit into our group? Or maybe that first Mesmer who can't seem to understand that henchies make actually good teammates, and who begin to demand this and that when they get invited into an already established party.

In particular, the henchy Monks in the new Tombs do an excellant job! Only real problem with them is that it is really difficult to stop them from running into an enemy mob to res a fallen ally.

Nah, you weren't a jerk. I think if everyone started kicking people like that, there might be fewer jerks. I hate when someone joins your party and then starts telling you what and how to play, who to kick and what to accept. I always kick 'em too.

coolsti, husband and I have also taken to questing with a set of friends who simply enjoy playing the game. We do missions together if possible or just go out exploring. My then-fledgling monk survived to a great extent thanks to the tutelege and tolerance of these people.

And sometimes those who appear to be jerks aren't on closer examination or can be 're-habilitated'. Recently, in Dragon's Lair, there was a warrior whom I quickly named my 'personal mana sink'. He rushed head long into battle and it took as much attention and energy to keep him healed as it did the rest of the team combined. Come to find out, he hadn't run ahead and gotten Forge armor (so was running with Maguuma and before armor). Once I found that little factoid, the tone became more teasing than grousing because he was giving the team his all and couldn't help being a mana sink (he did start trying to stay teamed with the other tanks better to 'share the pain' after we explained the problem more clearly).

Another warrior, in Ice Caves mission, nearly had me mapping out (an almost unheard of thing for any of my girls to do). The other healer, casters and I would toggle low on energy and he'd run ahead to aggro another group regardless of the request to wait a minute. He paid no attention to the map and approaching enemies while he forged ahead and then complained when he died fighting solo as we were all struggling with the now two groups of pissed off foes. Eventually, he apparently had an epiphany (death can do that to you if it happens frequently enough) and he slowed himself down a bit. After that, we played as a team and were victorious. At the end, I apologized for my own testiness and several thanked me for the healing and for staying the course (a nice warm-fuzzy).

Thanks, did you HAVE to rub it in?

was in 4 man pvp in the random arena last night. the rest of my team died and started leaving. i beat the other team 4 vs 1 and the whole time they were screaming you suck your an asshole. just die you stupid bitch. now i wasnt running. i just know which targets to take out first. which armors take hits the hardest and what not. people that cant applaud someone for an amazing effort like that are the biggest jerks in gw.

Me and the Wife were on character we had started recently and were at Thirsty River, last mission before ascending (we've done all the characters at least once, some more). So it was a long day and we didn't feel like doing the mission and a group of 2 were advertising doing the mission for 5K. So we go with a group (Monk and a Nec were "running" it). We get to the Monk boss, we pay our 5K each. They die rather quickly along with most of the group and they split. They ignore everyone's attempts at contacting them to refund money or offer to do it again. So later we ended up doing the mission ourselves, but it was just very unprofessional. I won't post the names here or of the guild they are in, but I have posted it on another popular board and in all districts in all towns that day. I was too pissed off to think about screen printing any of it, so I know my options are limited.

Normally, the fee is paid after the monk boss is dead. If you didn't know this, now you do. This is sort of like paying a drok runner at beacon's. Unethical on his part, foolish on your part.

well here's my 2 personal favorites, one just happened last night actually:



The first didn't reply after I asked about his guild, and the second was just some amusement for me when I was getting a run to citadel

(these were just the ones I found amusing and not all the countless scams and jerks in general that I've ran into)

I was looking for a run to Granite Citadel, and I was asking around for one.

Girl: I can run you to Granite Citadel!
Me: Ok lets do it.
Girl: Ok.

We go outside.

Girl: WOAHHHHH! This is too hard. We need 6 more people to do this.
Me: Wait I thought you said you could run it.
Girl: No I said we could fight it!!!
Me: No you said we could run it that's why I invited you.
Girl: GOD YOU ARE SUCH A NOOB!!! NO ONE CAN RUN TO GRANITE CITADEL WITHOUT A FULL PARTY!!!! NOOB!!!!
Me: Well you should have said that later.
Girl: I DID!!!! WTF ARE YOU DOING????
Me: Piss off.

(Ignored and went back into the city.)

Best reply. Ever.

nice.....hahah.

i should start calling "noobs" babo from now on. then again it's not as funny when they react to a foreign language as to when they react to saying "---- you"....

Got a couple of live ones today.

As a monk doing Tombs, I'm surprised people are such jackasses.

After two successful runs, my latest group has this ranger who for some reason or other just LOVES making racial slurrs, like "don't be such a fukking jew" and calling me a "fukking chink monk" because I look asian.

I ask him what his problem is, and he simply repies "YOU!", to which I really have no idea what to say, since I've never seen this guy in my entire life.

Anyhow, I've had enough successful runs, I don't need to put up with this, and I make it quite clear that I'll leave if he does it again. So heres the kicker, my team started acting as if I was being the jerk for wanting to leave. So not only do I have to put up with verbal abuse, I'm the bad guy for being upset over it. Thanks for calling me a noob just because I asked for a little respect. Buncha jackasses.

Yeah, words are words, but this is still a game, and theres no reason I should be forced to put up with that kind of crap if I dont want to. So I quit.


The second one was just about a half an hour ago. I join a barrage group, say hi, and check something on my forums. When I check back I notice the leader of the group was asking me something about energy management. Being caught somewhat off-guard and still a bit distracted, my mistake was not really thinking it through and assuming it was a generic question, so in my answer I mentioned Peace and Harmony. So I'm automatically booted off for being a noob who uses PnH in Tombs, despite the fact that I never said that I use it(and I don't). Apparently asking me straight up what build I have is not the elite way of figuring out what I use. So although I tell the guy that I don't use it, and that I misunderstood the question, he's already made up his mind about me, I'm just some noob, and they dont want me.

Oh, but of course thats not the end of it. He of course has to tell me about how he's been playing since beta, how he has 3 different monks(no idea what for), and that he and the whole team are a bunch of awesome rank 7 mofo's with multiple accounts and all that lovely crap you're used to hearing.

Obviously with that simple question he made, which I misunderstood, he has concluded that I have not been playing since beta(I have), I have no rank(I do), and that I only have one account(I have two).

So folks, save everyone the headache, and don't ask stupid questions, and just ask straight up what a players build is. And if you can't do that, don't act like elitist pricks when people misunderstand the question and/or don't give you the magical answer you're looking for. Jumping to conclusions and acting like a douche will only make you look like an asshole.

Had some Jerk on a Fissure group giving me grief saying "fissure armour and HoD sword...uh oh nerd!" for no reason what so ever...he also kept rushing and agroing the mobs and everyone had enough as he died cos everyone just waited and no one rezed him for being an idiot and all he could do was lay there and watch us spamming ...... ...... ....... and not even being able to get across his curses hehe....I feel sorry for this fellow who obviously has a very troubled life.

Had 1 too..

tried to do the desert misison, can't remember wich 1.
it's the 1 with the siege worms...

but we filled a team, and went on..
but when we have to defend the ghost from attackers, almost ALL of the others just stood in the middle of the fight AND the siege attacks.. That won't work obviously :-)

and of course everyone died except me, who ran off a little with dodge, and got back..

when ghost died we got back to town, and this 1 guy started to flame the monks.. (we had 2)..
went something like this:
jerkmg, u f*** noobs.. why didn't u heal or rez ??
me: comon, please don't flame. no point, it was our first try anyway..
jerk: oh, stu u noob too.. didn't rez us..
me: and btw, u didn't think that they might be out of mana? since all of u stood in the middle of the war ??
jerk: shut up !! shut up!! u could rez.
me: oh please. i had to heal ghost, rez all of u, and defend myself? with ranger-mana??
jerk: STFU, i **** your mom.. (this is where i start to laugh very mutch:-) )
me: LOL, your's too !! hehe
jerk: omg, u *** noob ! leave me alone..
me: ok. since u r the pro, what good did u do?? after all u died, i didn't. so explain !!
jerk : "!¤#¤"# "%¤ ¤"#% #"¤ % etc etc..
me: ok. so u can't explain. i guess you're just an angry little kid then..
jerk: AARGH!! (and so on)
me: OK, since u are the PRO player here, why don't u just ignore me??

after that it got silent.. i was laughing my ass off, and sent him a message on pub-chat... that this was totally un-necessary.. after that it was quiet..


but i must say that i have also met the counterpart.
we tried a droknar run too early think i was lvl18 and my friend lvl19) and we asked if anyone else wanted to try. (didn't know how hard it was, just heard about droknar)
filled a group, and 2 lvl 20 rangers joined. We tried atleast 10 times (several hours), and they finally did it (the 2 lvl 20 rangers were the only 1 that had a chance)
we had a great time, they chatted alot, and ran wery well..
they they disaid that dn't want any money, for not guaranteed we got there.

when we finally got to droks, me and my freind wanted to give them 1,5k each, as thx for the help, but NO WAY.. they didn't want any. And even when 1 of them asked for a bow upgrade, he did give me money for it, even though i said it's for free as thanks.. Great people.. Me and my friend agreed : best GW experience we had EVER!
so thanks to you guys. if i'm allowed to post names here, i will

Biggest jerk I met was an good friend of me first until what happened.

We were in Ruined Tombs with a full guild group and I was there as an Orders Necro, now I carry Healing Breeze and Heal Party to back the Healer up a bit when it's needed.

I start casting Orders and I notice that the Healer is not healing me at all. Okay well then I will just cast HB on myself and use Blood Renewal. I ask him why and he says that he is a Boon Healer and he doesn't have the energy to heal me. Right.. well I'll continue to cast the Orders and occasionaly cast HB on myself and Blood Ritual on the monk.

Then we get to the second level and our Ranger gets stuck somewhere. The healer decides that he would stay with the Ranger and the rest of the party presses on.. I as the Order Necro was keepign the MM and the rest of the party alive only because the Healer was being an ass and standing there. I make some comments about it and when he finally gets back he says "You know Shala. It's not that I don't have the energy to heal you, I just don't like healing you". So that did it for me and I cursed at them and left the party + guild.

They had been pulling this shit on me for a while now and that was the last straw.. And then they tell me that I was acting strange and unreasonable.. right!

NOT healing your order/battery necro? What a jerk of a monk, Hailfall. After the MM, YOU would get all my attention. That is in no way cool or in anyone’s best interest. Good on you to have left your guild!

******

So, I had a guildie, a very competent player, who wanted to do Thirsty River. It was late last night, not many other guildies interested/online. But, I said I’d do it because he’d been waiting a while.

Sometimes I get into my little insular world of having a great guild, we do all the missions together and usually do it the same way (the easy way IMO). Always do bonuses for the heck of it. Anyway, sometimes I forget that there are *other* people out there with *other* ideas.

We get into a pug and start. We all agreed—or at least I thought we agreed—to kill the sand giants for morale boost. After the second giant, the warrior starts taking off running for the ghost. Not informed ahead of time that that was what he was going to do, everyone but him are surrounded by Devourers, getting shot and distracted and trapped, etc.

Me: WARRIOR
Him: chill

Cutscene.

Me: we were killing giants jerk
Him: you get 4% at first boss
Him: ur slow

As we all know, bad communication and lack of teamwork at the very very beginning of a mission does not bode well for the rest of the mission. Yes, if we stayed alive we would eventually get morale boost of 10%. I simply prefer to START with the morale boost of 10%. Why not? That’s how we always do it. (<---my insular thinking again) And, that is how I believed we were going to do it.

I left the group, guildie not far behind. He understood why I did that, and agreed we could do it later with other guildies.

[Whispers from Warrior]

Him: you get 4% at first boss
Me: i don’t care – you are a terrible team player
Him: ur slow

Etc etc etc

Him: get some rank nubcake
Him: then tell me i’m not a good team player

(BTW, he was W/R – care to guess how he might have gotten any rank, if he indeed had any?)

Me: thanks for coming and rank means nothing in pve
Him: get some rank
Me: what. ever.
Him: lol
Me: go away
Him: lol

/ignore

This bothers me more the then use of the word n00b or any of its forms. When are people going to learn that rank has absolutely nothing to do with pve.

Or anything at all!

You know this is the kind of thing that pisses me off the most. This kind of jackass group mentality. It's usually instigated by one guy, and the rest allow them to get away with it. And if you complain, they make you out to be the bad guy for not putting up with it.

Listen folks, I don't have to put up with your buddies crap, and if theres anyone you should be pissed off at its him for making me want to leave.


Oh krist, yes. I'm so annoyed by people who jerk off about rank in PvE. It's not the same thing, and it proves little. I hate anyone who brags about anything, be it Fissure Armor, greens, or fame.

Especially with all the fame farming going on. You know rank is worthless when motherfukkin IWAY teams wont take anyone lower than Rank 6.

Have you ever wondered how FoW or UW brings out the badness and down right idiotic lies of some people...


I was in ToA, advertising to get into a group --

Hammer Warrior LFG to FoW/UW - or warrior chest run.


As you do :P


Got invited into a group, leader (THLIK - The acronym will explain itself later) who is necro is asking us what we have etc, I thought we had a good balanced team and could do well.

I said in TC - You want 125g for entrance from me?
THLIK - Nahh its ok ill pay the way
Me - Nice of ya, thanks buddy

So off we go, N/Me, 2xW/Mo (one being me), 3xMo/E, 2xE/Me


We did what usually you do in FoW, hunt left then back and go right.. Doing well and had 2 shards and a rare shadow bow drop, not for me as usual :P, so we are heading back to kill the group on the right.

Then I noticed THLIK running towards Rasti, so in chat...

Me: Buddy dont talk to Rasti yet
THLIK: What?? We have to so we can do the little quest
Me: You dont have to buddy, he will come up on his own and it will be safer
THLIK: Not another noob warrior, im the leader ok!, Ill decide

At this point other Monks etc say not a good idea, leave Rasti etc, eventually he agress. I just thought maybe hes having a bad day and is a bit on edge he did after all paid for us all to get in.


So we cleared monk groups, and heading towards the building which Rasti wants, he only flies in and agros 5 groups of Abyssals/Archers..

Me: Dude! What you doing?
THLIK: Noob! STFU! OMG! im grouping them for the ele's
Me: Yeah, ok but not 5 groups! As soon as we get near they will run for the eles and monks
THLIK: STFU NOOB! DO AS I SAY!
Me: Fair enough

We got closer and Abyssals rushed monks and ele's.. We lost the monks and eles a few times due to barrage from way off etc. THLIK died ofcourse.

Me and fellow warrior is Rebirthing like mad..

THLIK: REZ ME OMFG YOU NOOBS
Me: We are trying to keep monks alive here
OtherWarrior: yep

So we managed to get them res'd we backed of to recharge, and off we went to kill the archers that are left, so we are fighting and bonder has bonds on us, im using every hammer skill I have.

THLIK: REZ REZ REZ REZ REZ REZ REZ REZ REZ x 5
Me: I cant I dont have energy here to rebirth you
Monk1: I have 5 out of 45 energy
Monk2: I have 3 out of 60 energy
etc

Eventually we cleared out building, talked to Rasti cleared DP's and since no mobs were about we had a chat with THLIK since we had time..

We basically told him to calm down, we need to work as team, sorry if hes had a bad time or whatever..

He apologised and agreed to stay close..

Phewww I thought, disaster averted..

Off we go left, clearing out the plains to kill the Lich's so we can do the book, most of them wanted to do the "book trick" to make it easier, as most was looking for chests to reap rewards from.


So clearing Plains and we spot a chest, I went first so others didnt have to waste keys if its purple. Gold chest, useless shadow shield but was gold anyways.. Everyone proceeds to open chest.. Then

THLIK: Can anyone give me a key?
Me: You didnt buy any keys before? After you said you were hoping for alot of chests?
THLIK: I forget, will you give me one
Me: I only have 4 of them, I cant give out one sorry
THLIK: I buy ok...
Me: Ok Ill sell you one, 1.5P
THLIK: WTF WTF!!! Thought we were going to be a team now, WTF, Its worth 750g!!!
Me: No its worth 1.5P to buy, I aint selling it for a loss of 750g!!
THLIK: IT ISNT WORTH 1.5P!!
Me: Yes Yes your right, its 3P since its a gold chest
THLIK: OMFG YOU F**KING NOOB, F**K YOU. OMFG

on and on it continued.. We notice a mob incoming, we moved away I marked map to say come here, he stands there still cussing and swearing and agros them...

THLIK: OMFG HEAL ME!! WTF!! F**KING MONKS HEAL ME

Group dies we res him, and one of the monks gives him a key for free to just shut him up lol

We decided to talk again.. I didnt start the convo was an ele

Ele1: hey will you f***ing calm down
Me: Can we all calm down please
Ele2: This guy is a r***rd (I hate that word)
THLIK: I AM GREAT PLAYER, I AM IN NO 1 KOREAN GUILD, I WENT TO CHAMPIONSHIPS (Hence his name Thinks He Lives In Korea - THLIK)
Monk2: ROTFLMAO
Monk1 Laughs Heartily
THLIK: HOW DARE YOU LAUGH AT ME, YOU ARE ALL NOOBS UNDER ME
Me: wow I must admit for a Korean your english is fantastic, excellent job buddy
THLIK: GOOD YOU UNDERSTAND HOW GREAT I AM
Me: No No was being sarcastic
THLIK: WTF WTF WTF NOOBS! F**K YOU ALL (im imagining that he looks like the Halo2 Player who goes nuts from the video which makes me laugh)


So off we go again, eventually..

Going for the three ghosts in the plain to start book quest

THLIK dies by rushing the monk and archers only to rise the 2 skele archers and ghoul (as i like to call em). Basically he was attacking with Spiteful on him, which we kept reminding him not to as he was damaging everyone else.

So off we go kill the monk boss, and we decided before Warrior2 who had more health would book tank.

THLIK is dead at this point again!

He gets res'd then I get PM from monk2

Monk2: hehehehehe

I knew he used Vengeance :P

Monk3: this guy is a jerk im gonna leave (by this time I thought Monk3 couldnt speak english or something)
Me: Hey buddy, nice to hear ya talk Dont worry Monk2 has Vengeance on him
Monk3: Ahhh this will be most interesting Ill stick around to watch ^ ^

So everyone was PM'd to say he had Vengeance, much to everyones agreeance and Joy

THLIK proceeds to pick up book and starts running to ghosts to finish quest.

Me: Dude where are you going?
THLIK: IM DING BOOK TRCIK NOOB (his spelling is geeting worse he must be fuming :P)
Me: Book Trick??? Thats not the Book Trick by getting XP for it
THLIK: OMG OMFG OMG OMG UR A F**KING NOB (err noob or knob I dunno lol)

Then the most amazing thing ever, he collapses dead, mass hurrahs and cheers and claps from our group... There was rejoicing!

THLIK: OMFG OMFG I DIED OMFG YOU HAXED ME IM F**KING TELLING OMFG OMFG
Monk2: Vengeance is sweet
THLIK: WTF VENGENCE!! YOU HACED ME IM REPRTIN U OMFG

We decided this guy only ascended lol a group decision this one :P Seeing as he dont know what Vengeance is..


So hes lying down spamming OMFG REZ ME all the time still dead, we all iggy him and clear out the forgemasters area do mission, one Ele buys her fissure armor, everything was cool.


There was 20 shard drops that day, 3 already to THLIK and another 3 sat about for him (How come idiots always seem to get the best drops??).

So we removed iggy on him and hes still cursing and swearing - Much rejoicing was had lol

Monk2: I seen 3 shards for you, we can pick em up now if we want, but if you behave we will rez you to get them
THLIK: ok im sorry (no caps an improvement)
Monk2: I am using Vengeance on THLIK

He res's

THLIK: HAHAHA YOU NOOBS HAHAHAHAHAHA F**K YOU ALL, YOUR FAMLYS!!
THLIK: I HAD BEST STUFF, HAHAHAHAHA
Monk2: HAHAHAHAHA
*cut off Vengeance*
THLIK: OMFG OMFG OMFG YOU HAXED ME AGAIN OMFG OMFG..

We then proceeded to tell him who the noob was.

1. If he was in Korea he wouldnt be standing in European District English-1 to goto FoW/UW
2. He didnt know what vengeance was
3. He didnt know what the book trick was
4. He didnt know price of obsidian keys
5. He didnt wait for everyone to recharge
6. Half of the time he agrod countless groups

So we then decided who got least shards etc, and split the 3 between them.

We left with ok golds from chests (3 of them) and dark remains, shards, skele bones... Much rejoicing was had when we left...

He never came back to ToA, I think he was still in FoW lying dead saying OMFG OMFG OMFG.. Well I hope thats what happened at the end :P

This is by far the best part of that story. Awesome all around.

Yeah brought a tear of laughter that line


I wonder if the guy is about, whenever im on hes not online in friends list lol

Sweet DAB, that was well worth the read. I love ppl like that. Think they are the king of the world and then get put in their place.

Hehehe that was a great one DABhand . I don't think I've ever run into anything quite like that since I've been playing gw.

I would pay you an ecto (if i had one... ) to see this!

good times...lol

Vengance is sweet.

that's hilarious hehe - sounds like the griefing bastard got what he deserved
i love vengence although i'd mention it sounds like the monk was using unyeilding aura which is an actual enchant you can manage. UA is so fun, if only it wasn't an elite i'd carry it all the time lol

DABhand, greatest...story...EVER!!!

The endless barrage of the word noob as an insult by him was hilarious! It made him sound unintelligent, which I think he was.

Bravo DAB! That is hilarious Love it when people like that get what they deserve..hehe

i had one recently. It was in frost gate mission, we had 1 monk (Mo/E) a couple tanks, a mes and me (N/Mo i know its not the greatest build but i have fun with it). We get to the first group of ice golems, when our monk runs in and aggros them and the following patrol. Needless to say he dies quickly so i try to heal, however pathetic the attempt was we lived through that.

I res the monk and ask him to leave the aggro for the tanks, that is what they are there for. His reply:"What is tank?". This doesnt bother me since i like to help new players, so the group and i explain to him what a tank is and is used for.

Next group of Ice Golems and Summit, tanks rush in and take the aggro. I start spamming my life siphon, faintheartedness when i see monk run behid the tanks and cast firestorm. Mob rushes monk, i then cast mark of pain to try to get them off the monk which pretty much killed the mob.

Tank 1: Who cast firestorm?
mes: monk did.
Me: Please dont nuke, you are not a nuker you are a healer.
Monk: What is nuke?
(group explains to him nuking)
Tank2: Please dont cast any ele spells just heal, we will take care of the rest.
Monk agrees and we go on about our way.

We make it through the frostfire (sp?) cave and proceed towards the ballista. We explain to the monk what the tanks are going to do in regards to pulling the summit off the hill. Monk runs up to the side of the tanks and aggros all the groups on the hill. Once again monk dies and my measly attempt at monking saves only one tank. The monk then says that his warrior is better than his monk. What does that have to do with the situation we are in at the moment?

Monk then says that his warrior is lvl 20 with perfect armor.

Tank 2: So you have a lvl 20 warrior and you dont know how to play as a team?
Monk: F*** YOU!!
Me: You have a lvl 20 tank yet you dont know what nuking is? let alone what a tank is?
(group laughs)
Monk: F*** YOU ALL!!!!

From here we just try to run the mission. There is a lot of cursing from the monk but he is not healing anyone anymore. So once again i try to play a sad sad monk but we do manage to gimp our way around long enough for rurik to get to where ever he is going.

While not knowing exactly how he got to lvl 20, I suspect this is the common case of "I got run all the way through" syndrome.

It makes me sad to see people who have gotten run all through without having ever gotten through the game (at least to the fire islands) through the normal grind on their first character.


Last night a couple guildies and I were going through Hell's Precipice and we are waiting forever to get 1 monk (much less the two we wanted) to join. We had a necro on the team who was getting very frustrated and started showing the signs of being a troublesome team member.

He starts asking if we want to pay someone to monk for us. To which we all replied "Hell no."

He decides he is willing to offer up some cash of his own so we add that to our message. Finally get a guildie monk and another monk who finally popped in.

Away we go with a tank, 3 eles, a ranger, 2 monks and the necro.

Despite having a very competent tank and ranger, when we get to the armageddon lords and start trying to pull the pop up hands and fists, the necro constantly keeps going up with the warrior and ranger on their attempt to pull. We kept politely asking him to stay back, to which we get no responses from him, nor is he actually doing anything that would warrant him needing to go up and agro.

So our warrior sits, and we threaten to not heal him if he keeps it up.

He finally comes back and says "whine". At that point I tell him "At least explain why you feel you need to pull rather than just f'ing ignoring everyone"

He doesn't say anything and we proceed on through the rest of the mission up to the lich. As most know, you have to kill the lich near or on the center of the bloodstone, evn if they don't we mentioned it. Well necro boy is at it again. He keeps getting transported into the lava. And when the second wave of the lich is at about 1-2% life and off the dias working his way back up. The necro starts attacking him, about to kill him off the bloodstone.

We start yelling at him and he backs off.
We finish up and I finally "finish" the game for the first time with any of my characters.

We all have heard of people who have finished the game using henches all the way. It's possible, I buy its possibility, and I'm impressed by it.

What would truly be an accomplishment worth crowing about, is if someone went through and did every mission, Great Northern Wall through Hell's Precipice, start to finish, with totally random PUGs only.

P.S. I don't volunteer to try it myself. Just saying.

Yeah I had to do most of the game with henchies, I usually farm in grenths/SF with em also...

Cant be bothered with the bitching & fighting etc, unfortunately FoW and UW are different,as you see with the above post :P

Im not bragging but I managed hells precipice first time with henchies, they were useless when I was alive, but somehow became amazing when I was dead on the ground.. One of those mysterious things :P

Apart from Hell's Precipice, that's me. Would have done it with a pug group had a couple guildies not been around.

I only did quests with henchies and PUGs for missions.

PUGs aren't that bad and especially in pre-desert missions they are all pretty understanding. Our guild leader almost refuses to do anything with PUGs, and I keep trying to change his mind. Just having to be aware of the types of things that won't make a good team, asking the right questions up front and communicating.

I enjoy the grind with each new character. It helps me to learn the skills and peculiarities of each new class. The only runs I ever have done are now from Beacons to droks, buy my armor and start back on course again. I also have my guild do the Desert Tour for me. Then I go and fight through missions and quests as normal.

Actually, that's the only way I do them. Never did one with henches or a guild.

I dont mean to be rude but you did ask for it, with the mother comment..