.W/X FoW Spider Farmer
T1Cybernetic
You guys are always in a hurry, .
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ubermancer
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Originally Posted by fb2000
boots 12% chance wtf? its unconditional? and why would u use a wand??
if you feel u need that big of a dmg reduction, just look into a -2 -2 shield..
ive done this run even without a shield with dmg reduction, without eiher dolyak or
watch urself.. its not that hard
Just for the record, I was not advocating actually using that wand, as the only thing its good for is running...
And I much prefer the +10 armor sword
if you feel u need that big of a dmg reduction, just look into a -2 -2 shield..
ive done this run even without a shield with dmg reduction, without eiher dolyak or
watch urself.. its not that hard
Just for the record, I was not advocating actually using that wand, as the only thing its good for is running... And I much prefer the +10 armor sword
Wishina Serikio
Just so I clear this up..
I can run to the spiders fine and I have all the skills required.. it's fighting them I find hard.. Am I supposed to kill all the Doubter Dryders at the start of the cave? or simply ignore them and fight the spiders? I'm unsure .. Sorry.. please help me with this
providing a screeny too would be helpful.
My weapon/shield is
Zealous Chaos Axe of Shelter
max dmg 9 axe mastery req
+15% dmg in stance
+7 vs physical
1/-1 zealous
Max armor 9 tactics req
-2 dmg recieved in stance
+45hp in stance
My skills are: Cleave/Cyclone Axe/Exe Strike/Dismember/Watch yourself!/Phys Resist/Heal Sig/Shields Up!
Any opinions on my equipment?
I can run to the spiders fine and I have all the skills required.. it's fighting them I find hard.. Am I supposed to kill all the Doubter Dryders at the start of the cave? or simply ignore them and fight the spiders? I'm unsure .. Sorry.. please help me with this
providing a screeny too would be helpful.My weapon/shield is
Zealous Chaos Axe of Shelter
max dmg 9 axe mastery req
+15% dmg in stance
+7 vs physical
1/-1 zealous
Max armor 9 tactics req
-2 dmg recieved in stance
+45hp in stance
My skills are: Cleave/Cyclone Axe/Exe Strike/Dismember/Watch yourself!/Phys Resist/Heal Sig/Shields Up!
Any opinions on my equipment?
Senator Tom
im pretty sure you all know, but Geoffer's Bulwark is perfect for this
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by Wishina Serikio
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Originally Posted by Wishina Serikio
Any opinions on my equipment?
You need a longbow.
You don't really need shields up with everything else you have. And Sprint is as much for getting away from spiders if something goes wrong as it is for getting there (at least at first). And I'd drop dismember as conditions really aren't effective against the spiders.
Koning
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Originally Posted by Senator Tom
im pretty sure you all know, but Geoffer's Bulwark is perfect for this
I use the +45/-2 stance shield now, but what would be better, that bulwark or -2 dmg? I think im gonna try this now when we have favor....
ThePadawan
I've used both the collectors Crimson Carapace Shield and the Geoffer's Bulwark for this. I haven't really noticed a significant difference.. I'm unsure whethere the +10al vs. Piercing is greater than the -2 dmg reduction from the spiders, however, the +hp stance condition is a real pain, cause its usually when you NEED the HP (and about to die) that your enchants, stances, etc. wear out (because unless you die by poison, most attacks deal 0 dmg with phys resistance and watch yourself). Geoffer's has a +30hp always boost, and is pretty cheap at 15k, so its not necessary, but I'd say its slightly better.
Megengo
I posted my build in another FoW thread started more recently, so I figured I would post it here too for the hell of it. I never understood why people use builds that use so many skills for defense. The build I use only has 2 defensive skills and I can tank an infinite number (literally) of armored cave spiders. It can also be used as axe or swords by simply alternating skills, gear, and attributes.
Hundred Blades/Cyclone Axe Standing Slash/Cleave Silverwing Slash/Penetrating Blow Galrath Slash/Penetrating Chop Healing Signet Dolyak Signet Physical Resistance Sprint Strength 15 Swords/Axe 15 Tactics 9 Inspiration 2 I use 3 superior runes (yes I am crazy) to achieve these attributes and never take any damage even while using Healing Signet. For the run I remove the superior weapon and strength rune and wear a HoD helm. I use Legionnaires armor for the extra armor while in stance and the desert collector's Crimson Carapace Shield that provides -2 damage and +45 health while in a stance. So all in all I have 350 health while in a stance and heal for 107 whenever my health gets to around 250. When fighting the stick men on the beach before you get to the cave you don't even need to use dolyak sig to take zero damage from them. I also use the typical zealous/defensive sword or axe. With this build I have been able to out damage 2 simultaneous healing springs, and, like I said before, can tank as many spiders as you will ever encounter. I love killing all 3 of the dryders at the mouth of the cave and then taking on all 30+ (or however many) spiders spawn. IMO this is the most effective and efficient build for the FoW spider cave.
dumahlok
sup runes are not needed i do it just fine with
12 str 12tac 10sword 4ins so with dolyak and phy res u get a total of 74 more armor so what good it a defencive mod on the weapon 5/7 aint going to do much ,might as well got for a fortitude as only the poison will take helth and for weapon i find the crafter +5energy sword cuztomized for 20% works best
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by Megengo
~snip~ IMO this is the most effective and efficient build for the FoW spider cave.
The problem I have is no IAS stance, and you still have to use Healing Signet to heal. It really cuts down on the speed overall.
Cowboy Nastyman
dunno if youve tried this yet racthoh, watch yourself can be dropped from your frenzy build if you wear legionaires armor, it is still enoguh armor to easily take the run, could replace watch with silverwing as i did. the added bonus of dropping watch yourself is you can then drop your tact points into strength instead, bit mroe armor penetration and a longer sprint.
Racthoh
I actually dropped Balthazar's Spirit for Silverwing Slash. The adrenline gain is very minimal with it, and the excessive amounts of energy for Frenzy and Healing Hands (the only two energy skills you're using anyway) can be maintained with a Zealous sword.
Once I free some storage space, I might craft some legionnaries... but I would also need a strength based shield. Oh well, it works well enough now. 
Across The Battle
Rawr, Racthoh i have a problem...
I suck..at farming for some reason? got the cure? MASTERHEX
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Originally Posted by Across The Battle
Rawr, Racthoh i have a problem...
I suck..at farming for some reason? got the cure? Uninstall Guildwar
X of Thulcandra
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Originally Posted by MASTERHEX
Uninstall Guildwar
MASTERHEX
Town Dweller Join Date: Jun 2006 Man, aren't you leet... 
MASTERHEX
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Originally Posted by X of Thulcandra
MASTERHEX
Town Dweller Join Date: Jun 2006 Man, aren't you leet...
huh what u talking about?
X of Thulcandra
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Originally Posted by MASTERHEX
huh what u talking about?
Exactly. ^^
ubermancer
He's calling you a nub.
But, then again, the post you responded to wasnt from all that of an intelligent person, either. [who the hell looks at a 1,400 post thread and asks the original poster, basically, "can you repeat whats in the first post?"] Megengo
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Originally Posted by X of Thulcandra
MASTERHEX
Town Dweller Join Date: Jun 2006 Man, aren't you leet...
The date one joins a fansite's forums has nothing do with how leet/unleet one is.
X of Thulcandra
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Originally Posted by Megengo
The date one joins a fansite's forums has nothing do with how leet/unleet one is.
Sorry, I'm just used to people ridiculing others based on their post count/join date in other forums I go to. This also might surprise you, but their IS this thing called sarcasm.
TheGuildWarsPenguin
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I can't download the first video that you posted.
| Notorious Rex
As far as HS goes, you dont need to focus on interrupting them, just hit each spider a few times, and they will get out of "healing mode", and wont use it anymore.
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by TheGuildWarsPenguin
I can't download the first video that you posted.
I'll see if I still have it on my home system and I'll re-upload it.
EDIT: Okay, that's something with Filefront. Anything I try to download gives that error message.
striderkaaru
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Originally Posted by ubermancer
He's calling you a nub.
But, then again, the post you responded to wasnt from all that of an intelligent person, either. [who the hell looks at a 1,400 post thread and asks the original poster, basically, "can you repeat whats in the first post?"] relax, and pay attention next time. ama is in the same guild. perhaps we shouldn't be posting inside jokes on public forums, but hey, it happens. Across The Battle
It wasnt really an inside joke, I just suck. Har har har -_-
Queto
I tried this run again yesterday. Triple Chop and Cyclone Axe really work! Found 1 shard on that run.
Problem is that I have to try like 3 times to get to the cave alive  Edit: made it from the first time now, got 4 shards, no rares. Edit 2: Can someone tell me why the spiders don't use Savage Shot on me (Healing Signet)? Do they only interrupt spells or something? Guildwiki says that the Armored Cave Spiders HAVE Savage Shot, but why don't they use it then? huwbie
Any1 know if the filefront downloads work or is it just me ? i'm having trouble actually making it to the caves but could be doing it wrong
Im attempting the Triple Chop build as i think that skill does huge amounts of damage when im farming cantha Thanks
Racthoh
The spiders will only use Savage Shot if you're almost dead, I think it's around 50 health or so.
And FileFront as I mentioned a few posts ago doesn't seem to be working at the moment. Malice Black
racthoh, ever tried this with a hammer build?
IF we ever get favor might look into it..sword/axe..too easy
Racthoh
I strictly use swords.
striderkaaru
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Originally Posted by Malice Black
racthoh, ever tried this with a hammer build?
IF we ever get favor might look into it..sword/axe..too easy i have. a long time ago. back when rac first posted this. it was fun, but it took way too long. i'm not sure if it was a resistance to blunt damage or maybe they are weak to slashing, but the run took longer and i decided it wasn't worth it. the new factions skills look nice though, and might make it go faster. yeti smash and renewing smash look nice. and good luck getting rac to touch a hammer. Malice Black
challenge is what im after..money means nothing to me..just need something to do
striderkaaru
go for it then. =)
i had fun when i did it with a hammer.
Racthoh
If you're looking for a challenge, the UW one might be more up your alley.
Anubis Servants
I have been doing this awhile with the old w/me build that i modified a little bit I just have a few questions as far as equipment and skills goes.
I have been using a victos axe customized on my american account, but I have been using a collector stance axe with fortitude and furious mod on my european spide farmer.(I know im kinda ripping the system off ).I have decided to move up to a new axe on my american warrior because i like to play below 50% health I was wondering if I should take a 15% while in stance or +15% always -10 while attacking. Im leaning towards the always because its going to be a very expensive axe with +30 hp and 20/20 sundering and I would like to use it any situation, and I am starting to incorporate 2 pieces of legionaire in to my build which kinda cancel the -10 armor. Thats my axe dillema if any has tried a -10 armor and it didn't work I would greatly appreciate it. As far as skills goes I have been using cyclone, cleave, furious axe, and exe strike as my attacks. I am just wondering if penetrating blow and penetrating chop make it faster because there is less adreline needed to do each skill. Probrably does help cancel out wastrel's worry. Also is there any other axe skills I may be missing to help run the build takes me between 35-50 mins a run. Another question I have is the -2 you get from an ascalon helm is it a big contributer in damage reduction, because I am thinking of maybe switching to an executioner's helm for a little more damage.( I use a superior axe rune in the helm). I know I have alot of questions but greatly appreciate any help I can get on trying to improve my spider farming efficiency with new skills and items.
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by Anubis Servants
Another question I have is the -2 you get from an ascalon helm is it a big contributer in damage reduction, because I am thinking of maybe switching to an executioner's helm for a little more damage.( I use a superior axe rune in the helm).
You can put the ascalon piece on your boots instead for the damage reduction.
Anubis Servants
*smacks head* I should of done that because +1 tactics is only 7 health each healing sig. Guess after I get my new fow helm with axe mastery I'll be buying a new pair of knights gauntlets, just bought a pair of 1.5k kurzich to see what it is like to have a high healing sig with around 450 health. Wish i hadn't been stupid and put my sup vigor in my boots.......
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by Anubis Servants
*smacks head* I should of done that because +1 tactics is only 7 health each healing sig. Guess after I get my new fow helm with axe mastery I'll be buying a new pair of knights gauntlets, just bought a pair of 1.5k kurzich to see what it is like to have a high healing sig with around 450 health. Wish i hadn't been stupid and put my sup vigor in my boots.......
Well... boots or gloves would work fine. You're not using any knockdowns so you won't need stonefist gauntlets for this build. And the gold to craft another pair of boots anyway is a lot cheaper than a Superior Vigor.
As a side note... filefront is working again.
Julen
Very nice build and guide!!
I do have one question though (probably been asked allready somewhere in the 70 pages before) How long does an average run take?
Pupu
i actually used a modded version of this that i tryed when i got quivering blade
heal sig, sever artery, quivering blade, final thrust,physical resist, watch yourself, shields up, sprint with quiv blade im constantly dishing out 50-80 damage per 4 adren and final thrust is always ready when ur spamming quiv blade, it cut my run time by like 15 mins give it a try12 str, 13 swords, 12 tacs equip i use is kaolin blade (zealous +7) geoffers bulwark (+10 vs pierce) |
