hmmm i havn't even tried this build yet but i was wondering if this would be good enough.
8-10 healing
10+ tactics (+1)
10+ stregth (+3)
emm 13 axe (+1+3)
should be able to get this
2 superior runes ( health should be around 400-420)
cleave
power attack
watchyourself
doylak sigit
vigerous spirit
balthzars spirit
mending
(wish i could fit mending in there)
W/X FoW Spider Farmer
dont feel no pain
Seef II
Been 2-manning with a guildie:
Me (W/N20 Swords 10+1+1, Tactics 11+1, Strength 10+2 = 480 HP)
1. Flurry
2. Hundred Blades
3. Final Thrust
4. Watch Yourself
5. Dolyak Signet
6. Plague Touch
7. Healing Signet
8. Sprint
Guildie (W/Mo 20 Axe.. don't know his attributes)
1. Flurry
2. Cyclone Axe
3. Cleave
4. Watch Yourself
5. Dolyak Signet
6. Shields Up
7. Healing Signet
8. Sprint
2 manning makes it quite easy to kill the skale, since their hate is spread across 2 people. They haven't dropped anything worth it yet though, but we did about 5 runs so the loot was getting bad. In general the run is of course easier with 2 people but then you get half the loot. I'm not sure about the offensive/defensive balance, but I'm sure plague touch isn't worth it. The net effect on the spider is -2 degen... still, my guildie with cleave kills faster, and our weapons are pretty comparable:
Me: Zealous Fellblade of Defense, max dmg, armor +5, +11% in stance
Guildie: Zealous Summit Axe of Defense, max dmg, armor +4, +11% in stance
Guess axe wins in killing power. We're both using the "runner's shield", +45/-2 in stance. If I throw in Seeking Blade or Pure Strike for hundred blades and use defy pain, maybe things might work better.
Gotta keep min/maxing and tossing around skills to find a good balance.
3 shards total between the two of us. The first three runs we died on the skale when dryders were on us. Not good. The successful runs, we ate up the skale.
Me (W/N20 Swords 10+1+1, Tactics 11+1, Strength 10+2 = 480 HP)
1. Flurry
2. Hundred Blades
3. Final Thrust
4. Watch Yourself
5. Dolyak Signet
6. Plague Touch
7. Healing Signet
8. Sprint
Guildie (W/Mo 20 Axe.. don't know his attributes)
1. Flurry
2. Cyclone Axe
3. Cleave
4. Watch Yourself
5. Dolyak Signet
6. Shields Up
7. Healing Signet
8. Sprint
2 manning makes it quite easy to kill the skale, since their hate is spread across 2 people. They haven't dropped anything worth it yet though, but we did about 5 runs so the loot was getting bad. In general the run is of course easier with 2 people but then you get half the loot. I'm not sure about the offensive/defensive balance, but I'm sure plague touch isn't worth it. The net effect on the spider is -2 degen... still, my guildie with cleave kills faster, and our weapons are pretty comparable:
Me: Zealous Fellblade of Defense, max dmg, armor +5, +11% in stance
Guildie: Zealous Summit Axe of Defense, max dmg, armor +4, +11% in stance
Guess axe wins in killing power. We're both using the "runner's shield", +45/-2 in stance. If I throw in Seeking Blade or Pure Strike for hundred blades and use defy pain, maybe things might work better.
Gotta keep min/maxing and tossing around skills to find a good balance.
3 shards total between the two of us. The first three runs we died on the skale when dryders were on us. Not good. The successful runs, we ate up the skale.
damkel
Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
hmmm i havn't even tried this build yet but i was wondering if this would be good enough.
8-10 healing
10+ tactics (+1)
10+ stregth (+3)
emm 13 axe (+1+3)
should be able to get this
2 superior runes ( health should be around 400-420)
cleave
power attack
watchyourself
doylak sigit
vigerous spirit
balthzars spirit
mending
(wish i could fit mending in there) thats a bit overkill on the healing and defence. the run isnt that hard. if you just put in watchful spirit (+2 health regen) you wont need to put any points in monk secondary, and can focus on strength to boost dyolak signet etc.
hope that helps. all of the above is contained somewhere in this thread.
8-10 healing
10+ tactics (+1)
10+ stregth (+3)
emm 13 axe (+1+3)
should be able to get this
2 superior runes ( health should be around 400-420)
cleave
power attack
watchyourself
doylak sigit
vigerous spirit
balthzars spirit
mending
(wish i could fit mending in there) thats a bit overkill on the healing and defence. the run isnt that hard. if you just put in watchful spirit (+2 health regen) you wont need to put any points in monk secondary, and can focus on strength to boost dyolak signet etc.
hope that helps. all of the above is contained somewhere in this thread.
Racthoh
I think Plague Touch may be better than Galrath Slash. It's only going to be -2 degen when they have Melandru's Resilience in effect. 4 health per second as opposed to the 8 adrenaline required for Galrath Slash. The only thing to worry about is Savage Shot.
Also, you can find a req 9 15% damage stance sword in Snake Dance. 5 mountain troll tusks.
Also, you can find a req 9 15% damage stance sword in Snake Dance. 5 mountain troll tusks.
dont feel no pain
Quote:
Originally Posted by damkel
thats a bit overkill on the healing and defence. the run isnt that hard. if you just put in watchful spirit (+2 health regen) you wont need to put any points in monk secondary, and can focus on strength to boost dyolak signet etc.
hope that helps. all of the above is contained somewhere in this thread. ok thought it over a bit more here is my final result (even though not tested)
cleave{elite}
power attack
watchyourself
doylak sigit
healing sigit
balthzars spirit
live vicasouly
sprint
9 tactics (+1)
12 strength (3+1)
14 axe (+3)
8 healing
balthzars spiri is one of my favourite enchatments and agasin't these spider you will be getting about 5-10 enery per sec LOL. and some extra adrenline making every 3 hits u get 1 cleave and u can spam power attack aswell so 1/2 your attacks will be (+20-26) dmg
live vicsouly will cut off your poisen by healing 8 on hits ever 1.33 secs so that will keep your health steady and you may not even need to do healing sigit more than once or twice.
i may be wrong in some areas but i think i now have it worked out.
but in thoery this should be almost perfect.
hope that helps. all of the above is contained somewhere in this thread. ok thought it over a bit more here is my final result (even though not tested)
cleave{elite}
power attack
watchyourself
doylak sigit
healing sigit
balthzars spirit
live vicasouly
sprint
9 tactics (+1)
12 strength (3+1)
14 axe (+3)
8 healing
balthzars spiri is one of my favourite enchatments and agasin't these spider you will be getting about 5-10 enery per sec LOL. and some extra adrenline making every 3 hits u get 1 cleave and u can spam power attack aswell so 1/2 your attacks will be (+20-26) dmg
live vicsouly will cut off your poisen by healing 8 on hits ever 1.33 secs so that will keep your health steady and you may not even need to do healing sigit more than once or twice.
i may be wrong in some areas but i think i now have it worked out.
but in thoery this should be almost perfect.
Dahnel
these things really have savage shot ? i have not been interupted once yet !
Racthoh
Typically they will only use Savage Shot (in my build anyway) when you're using Healing Signet when you're into your temporary health reserves. By that I mean I'm using a shield with +45 health in stance so when I'm below 45 health they'll use it.
damkel
Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
cleave{elite}
power attack
watchyourself
doylak sigit
healing sigit
balthzars spirit
live vicasouly
sprint
9 tactics (+1)
12 strength (3+1)
14 axe (+3)
8 healing spamming healing signet is not a bad way of healing in this build. dont be scared to use it.
plus, balth spirit is smiting prayers isnt it? is the energy and adrenaline you get from it at 0 smiting prayers worth the effort?
using two superior runes? you're starting to scare me.
maybe its a good idea to test your build ideas in the game. or have you done so already? cos i would love to hear how a farming build using 2 superior runes works out.
power attack
watchyourself
doylak sigit
healing sigit
balthzars spirit
live vicasouly
sprint
9 tactics (+1)
12 strength (3+1)
14 axe (+3)
8 healing spamming healing signet is not a bad way of healing in this build. dont be scared to use it.
plus, balth spirit is smiting prayers isnt it? is the energy and adrenaline you get from it at 0 smiting prayers worth the effort?
using two superior runes? you're starting to scare me.
maybe its a good idea to test your build ideas in the game. or have you done so already? cos i would love to hear how a farming build using 2 superior runes works out.
Racthoh
Actually I used to use 2 superior runes sometimes when farming griffons as my warrior. 380 health, still worked just as effectively.
The adrenaline gain on Balthazar's Spirit is minimal, and the calculations on it are rather awkward. Anyway, the purpose of using it would be more for the endless amount of energy than the adrenaline gain.
The adrenaline gain on Balthazar's Spirit is minimal, and the calculations on it are rather awkward. Anyway, the purpose of using it would be more for the endless amount of energy than the adrenaline gain.
Damia
hey thanks for the guide... i love to solo farm when it gets boring, so i'll give this a try
Reve2uk
How effective do you think this build would be?
Mending
Watchful Spirit
Sever Atery
Gash
Final Thrust
Doylak Signet
Watch Yourself
Healing Signet
sword -10 (1)
tac -10(1)
str -9(2)
healing -12
When casting mending you use a +1 healing prayers item till you get 4pips with it then cast watchfull so you have 6pips. So even when posioned you will have 2pips.
Mending
Watchful Spirit
Sever Atery
Gash
Final Thrust
Doylak Signet
Watch Yourself
Healing Signet
sword -10 (1)
tac -10(1)
str -9(2)
healing -12
When casting mending you use a +1 healing prayers item till you get 4pips with it then cast watchfull so you have 6pips. So even when posioned you will have 2pips.
Fronzi
the only thing i can comment on in your build is that you definitely need sprint in there to get past the first shadow mobs.
striderkaaru
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reve2uk
When casting mending you use a +1 healing prayers item till you get 4pips with it then cast watchfull so you have 6pips. So even when posioned you will have 2pips.
a shatter from one of the dryders would be quite painful for you though. without spammable skills, wastrel's would also hurt a lot. the lack of sprint has already been mentioned, and sever + gash will give the spiders +4 pips of hp regen from melandru's resistance. so basically, they will have +1 and deep wound.
i'd say your best bet is to give it a try and see how you fare.
i'd say your best bet is to give it a try and see how you fare.
Reve2uk
Edited skills, melandru's resistance should give them regian now
Mending
Watchful Spirit
Cleave
Penetrating Blow
Sprint
Doylak Signet
Watch Yourself
Healing Signet
Axe -10 (1)
tac -10(1)
str -9(2)
healing -12
Mending
Watchful Spirit
Cleave
Penetrating Blow
Sprint
Doylak Signet
Watch Yourself
Healing Signet
Axe -10 (1)
tac -10(1)
str -9(2)
healing -12
Racthoh
Also I believe you only need 8 Healing Prayers to get Mending at +3. And since you have no other Healing Prayers on your bar, it's safe to bump up your other attributes.
Haroldo
This is just a little off topic but... for you people using swords and running this build, I have the a perfect hexed sword, and since you'll be hexed a lot...check it out. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...565#post748565
P.S. it's a Wingblade 0_o pretty
P.S. it's a Wingblade 0_o pretty
Sentao Nugra
the majority of enemys that you are fighting that do the big damage (spiders) dont have hexes, and even for fighting the dryders this isnt a big deal as WW is the only damage skill and can be completely avoided (damage wise).
Racthoh
Personally, I always kill the dryders before I spawn the spiders. Also, given that in some player's builds they are using enchantments which would be shattered if the dryders are left alive.
Sentao Nugra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Personally, I always kill the dryders before I spawn the spiders. Also, given that in some player's builds they are using enchantments which would be shattered if the dryders are left alive.
couldnt have said it better myself...
Reve2uk
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Also I believe you only need 8 Healing Prayers to get Mending at +3. And since you have no other Healing Prayers on your bar, it's safe to bump up your other attributes.
With 12 healing adn a +1 healing item i have i can booast healing up to 13 so 4pips, was the main reason realy, so it should give 2pips even when poisoned
squall amadeaus
thnx guys good job,i really appreciate,i don wanna farm i wanna get a spider as pet ,do u think its possible???and do think the axe build is better or the sword one???
striderkaaru
Quote:
Originally Posted by squall amadeaus
thnx guys good job,i really appreciate,i don wanna farm i wanna get a spider as pet ,do u think its possible???and do think the axe build is better or the sword one???
wrong thread. this is for the spiders in fow, which you cannot tame. the spider you want is in the uw.
DeepFyre
spider pets are in UNDERWORLD not fissure
edit: guess you beat me to it strider ; )
edit: guess you beat me to it strider ; )
squall amadeaus
i maked a mistake yea,i will go with a friend for 2 man farm,its quicker and easier no????and do u think axe or sword is better???
Racthoh
Two man will naturally be faster. However, it can be harder to make it there since there is twice the chance that one of you wil aggro a group of skales. As long as you know how to avoid them, however, you should be fine.
Whether axe or sword is better, I've never used an axe so I couldn't say either way.
Whether axe or sword is better, I've never used an axe so I couldn't say either way.
striderkaaru
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Whether axe or sword is better, I've never used an axe so I couldn't say either way.
you really should give it a try.
anyway, regarding the issue, it really is an age old question that will continue to be debated throughout eternity. all it comes down to is personal preference, i think. go with the weapon that feels more comfortable in your hands.
oh, and hammers are feeling left out. =(
anyway, regarding the issue, it really is an age old question that will continue to be debated throughout eternity. all it comes down to is personal preference, i think. go with the weapon that feels more comfortable in your hands.
oh, and hammers are feeling left out. =(
Racthoh
Used it once on a PvP guy (I would never sully Racthoh Demini's hands with a different melee weapon), and it felt weaker. Probably because I was unsure of the order in which to use the skills, or whether my skill setup was 'optimal', but things just didn't seem to die faster. I've used a sword for 1100 hours as my warrior, I can't make the switch over. 
striderkaaru
such loyalty.
i could never do that. i switch my builds around so much that i usually carry whichever weapon strikes my fancy at the moment. strider kaaru gets around and is always switching between all 3. ^_~
i could never do that. i switch my builds around so much that i usually carry whichever weapon strikes my fancy at the moment. strider kaaru gets around and is always switching between all 3. ^_~
squall amadeaus
already done 2 runs with swords,working well
i will try axe tommorow
i will try axe tommorow
Aryal
woot, just soloed the Spiders, check it out!
i got 2 shards, 2 purples, 1 gold... enough to pay the entrance fee again
i got 2 shards, 2 purples, 1 gold... enough to pay the entrance fee again
Racthoh
/clap nice work. 
striderkaaru
nice work, aryal.
were you the one who asked me to show you the run last night? i apologize for not being able to, since i was in uw. by the time i got out, you had signed off. great work though. you managed to get the run on your own.
were you the one who asked me to show you the run last night? i apologize for not being able to, since i was in uw. by the time i got out, you had signed off. great work though. you managed to get the run on your own.
N19h7m4r3
I must say this was a great find Racthoh.
I'm not usually one for farming but this helped me get 56 shards in a week.
Now if I can only get a team that can make it to the Forgemaster.
DAMN THOSE ELE HATERS!
Them: Your an ele right?
Me: Yep
Them: Echo fire nuker?
Me: Air Spiker or earth for defence, but i can easily switch to fire or water if you like.
Them: We only need a echo fire nuker.
Me: So you want me to change my skills to fire?
Them: NO, we dont need a wussy air user!
Me: But I can easily change it only takes 20 seconds max.
Them: Ignores you.
Me: What the.....????!
Closest Ive ever gotten was the Citidel gate.
I'm not usually one for farming but this helped me get 56 shards in a week.
Now if I can only get a team that can make it to the Forgemaster.
DAMN THOSE ELE HATERS!
Them: Your an ele right?
Me: Yep
Them: Echo fire nuker?
Me: Air Spiker or earth for defence, but i can easily switch to fire or water if you like.
Them: We only need a echo fire nuker.
Me: So you want me to change my skills to fire?
Them: NO, we dont need a wussy air user!
Me: But I can easily change it only takes 20 seconds max.
Them: Ignores you.
Me: What the.....????!
Closest Ive ever gotten was the Citidel gate.
Racthoh
Hmm... I'll have to add a service in the Services section to aid people on finding good groups to get to the forgemaster with. Blasted college and interfering with my aspirations.
dont feel no pain
man i suck , had my first 2 trys today ( i been busy ) and coukdn;t get to the spiders lol , thoes skales are a pain
Racthoh
Sword, Axe, or Hammer, skills and attributes?
If you're looking for help.
If you're looking for help.
Numa Pompilius
Racthoh: thanks for that build. I still don't manage to take the spiders down, but that's because I kill the dryders/seaweeds, and I'm a skale magnet, so I've only got to the spiders twice. Will try to improve my footwork. Anyway, thanks.
Mr D J
sry for a dumb question but where can i find a +15 in stance sword i researched everything and Ive seen the collector b4 many times but now im so confused plz help. thx
Aryal
yeah strider it was me, its kool, i knew u would be busy, but i made it after 2 goes.
Murder In China
I'm going to give this another try.