W/X FoW Spider Farmer
dont feel no pain
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Sword, Axe, or Hammer, skills and attributes?
If you're looking for help.
i'm using
12 axe
12 strength
12 tactics
flurry
cleave
power attack
healing sigit
doylak sigit
watchyourself
balthzars spirit(a godly skills in my opinion way too over powered it's sooo uber and should be a elite)
sprint
collectors stance sheild with a axe with +30 health (crap mods though) for running and my -2 dmg -2 dmg sheild with a decent zealous axe for fighting.
i just find it hard getting past the skales without getting degen to death , fighting is easy
If you're looking for help.
i'm using12 axe
12 strength
12 tactics
flurry
cleave
power attack
healing sigit
doylak sigit
watchyourself
balthzars spirit(a godly skills in my opinion way too over powered it's sooo uber and should be a elite)
sprint
collectors stance sheild with a axe with +30 health (crap mods though) for running and my -2 dmg -2 dmg sheild with a decent zealous axe for fighting.
i just find it hard getting past the skales without getting degen to death , fighting is easy
striderkaaru
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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
i just find it hard getting past the skales without getting degen to death , fighting is easy
just keep an eye out on your radar. it's important to try not to aggro any skales whatsoever.
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by Joker The Owner
sry for a dumb question but where can i find a +15 in stance sword i researched everything and Ive seen the collector b4 many times but now im so confused plz help. thx 
The collector in Snake Dance has one, it requires 5 mountain troll tusks.
don't feel no pain, as much as you probably don't want to get rid of the +30 health modifier, a +7 vs. physical or +5 vs. all would be best for this.
Just keep at it Numa.
The collector in Snake Dance has one, it requires 5 mountain troll tusks. don't feel no pain, as much as you probably don't want to get rid of the +30 health modifier, a +7 vs. physical or +5 vs. all would be best for this.
Just keep at it Numa.
lyra_song
im starting to branch out beyond spiders....
^_^ FUN~~
^_^ FUN~~
Racthoh
Heh I'd do the same sometimes, depending on whether my inventory was full or not. I'd sprint to the entrance of fire-like area where you do Khobay and spawn a bunch of shadow beasts. Problem was finding a save spot to stand while killing them all. Thankfully, large groups will pretty much kill themselves from Dark Pact.
MJ12trooper
how do u get around the SS?? because it owns me
Racthoh
Attack, attack, healing signet. Repeat.
dont feel no pain
i guess i just had bad spawns cause i couldn't even get passed them without getting aggrrod
Racthoh
After you kill the first group of 3 driftwood and a dryder, wait at that spot for a patrol of 3 more driftwood to come. Pull them with your bow back to where you are standing. It'll make sprinting passed the group of skales that are always there much easier since you won't have to worry about being crippled.
Around the second safespot I posted there will be two dryders patroling by. They won't aggro you, but best to run to that little pond like area to kill them both. Depending on how the passive groups of skales have spawned, you should be safe from the wandering groups. If not, just make sure to look ahead first and judge how far they appear to be wandering.
If it looks too congested, run to the other side of that small pond, almost to the point where you're aggroing the stationary group of skales that will always be in that corner. Stay in that small corner there, and kill the group of driftwood had you not already dispatched them while standing at the second safespot. Pull the dryder patrols to your little corner (or to wherever it's safe) and make quick work of them. Look ahead, and you should be able to judge a safe path to the cave.
Hope what I said isn't entirely confusing, and helps instead of making things worse.
Around the second safespot I posted there will be two dryders patroling by. They won't aggro you, but best to run to that little pond like area to kill them both. Depending on how the passive groups of skales have spawned, you should be safe from the wandering groups. If not, just make sure to look ahead first and judge how far they appear to be wandering.
If it looks too congested, run to the other side of that small pond, almost to the point where you're aggroing the stationary group of skales that will always be in that corner. Stay in that small corner there, and kill the group of driftwood had you not already dispatched them while standing at the second safespot. Pull the dryder patrols to your little corner (or to wherever it's safe) and make quick work of them. Look ahead, and you should be able to judge a safe path to the cave.
Hope what I said isn't entirely confusing, and helps instead of making things worse.
Fronzi
another trick that I have been using lately is to use the shadow mob patrols to help me. After I have killed the the first 2 mobs of driftwoods and the dryder, I will aggro the Shadow monk/2 warrior group and bring them for a visit to the first mob of skales.
After sprinting away the two groups realize they don't like each and the shadows always win. Without the first patrol of skales walking around the rest of it is super easy to time.
Here just for fun is my toon celebrating after a run in armor I don't actually use for the job.
After sprinting away the two groups realize they don't like each and the shadows always win. Without the first patrol of skales walking around the rest of it is super easy to time.
Here just for fun is my toon celebrating after a run in armor I don't actually use for the job
.MoNo
nice build but i take Epidemic leave dol out i'll help and show how its done just let me know i use a sword btw igm mono lific gj guys
Yichi
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Hmm... I'll have to add a service in the Services section to aid people on finding good groups to get to the forgemaster with. Blasted college and interfering with my aspirations.
sign me up as perma heal monk 
Sentao Nugra
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Hmm... I'll have to add a service in the Services section to aid people on finding good groups to get to the forgemaster with. Blasted college and interfering with my aspirations.
ill join in too if you need some help from a mesmer..
Rancour
Just to mention it, it seems to me that Armored Cave Spiders only use Melandru's Resiliance if they have more than one condition on them. So throwing up a bleed or a deep wound shouldn't make them use that nasty regen.
I don't have Hundred Blades, so I just bring Sever Artery instead. Everything down there can bleed and I like giving enemies degen.
Not sure if it's mentioned, but I can't be bothered to read through 11 pages of posts.
I don't have Hundred Blades, so I just bring Sever Artery instead. Everything down there can bleed and I like giving enemies degen.
Not sure if it's mentioned, but I can't be bothered to read through 11 pages of posts.
AtomicNoVa
Rancour : I use Eviscerate sometimes and they toss up Melandru's Resiliance almost instantly.
Rancour
Hmm, they never do it when I use Sever Artery...
I dunno, it's working for me
I dunno, it's working for me
Racthoh
The game mechanics probably view Deep Wound as a higher threat compared to Bleeding. Afterall, who wouldn't.
Rancour
Dunno, but I like throwing degen on enemies. Just so they're still losing health while I'm healing.
stefan16
downloading is freaggin slow
Azn D
I took a break from this run for a week, because i got pissed. Too many skales in the way. Started again yesterday after my HOH Win 
First run, DIED stupid ghost guy, RUN or something! Next try, 4 shards, 2 rares, and lot and lots of wood Same build i've been using since day one, and your original build Racthoh. Some of my guildies wanted to know how to do it, so i got a free run . Still getting good stuff without even finishing a whole run LOL (I suck), maybe i'll stop being crazy and try to finish a run.
First run, DIED stupid ghost guy, RUN or something! Next try, 4 shards, 2 rares, and lot and lots of wood Same build i've been using since day one, and your original build Racthoh. Some of my guildies wanted to know how to do it, so i got a free run . Still getting good stuff without even finishing a whole run LOL (I suck), maybe i'll stop being crazy and try to finish a run.
El_Inferno
can someone repost the video of the first post?
filefront is now not working for a day already :-/
and i would like to see it
filefront is now not working for a day already :-/
and i would like to see it
Yichi
Umm i never noticed thsi before, but last night im doign thsi showing a guildmate, and the spiders use distracting shot now.... they never used too.
Racthoh
Hmm, that would complicate matters. Sure it wasn't Savage Shot? Can anyone else confirm this just to be sure?
stefan16
file down....
by the way, i i go fight up till entrance, lure 3 monster 1 by 1, at the 3rd or after him there comes like 40 spiders at once? is that normal or what...?
(havent seen movie)
by the way, i i go fight up till entrance, lure 3 monster 1 by 1, at the 3rd or after him there comes like 40 spiders at once? is that normal or what...?
(havent seen movie)
Racthoh
The spiders do come like that, it is normal.
In the midst of a run, cleared the front of the tunnel... never hit by a distracting shot. Still doable.
In the midst of a run, cleared the front of the tunnel... never hit by a distracting shot. Still doable.
striderkaaru
i think the monster ai does something differently when there is more than 1 threat present. for example, when i farm grawl outside of port sledge alone, they never used signet of agony. however, when i did it with a pet or a guildie, they would do the signet + plague touch combo.
my thoughts are that monsters are less aggressive with only 1 threat present. racthoh, when you show people, do you ever let them fight alongside of you? yichi, can you confirm distracting shot?
i've done this run alongside a friend before and i didn't notice any distracting shots.
my thoughts are that monsters are less aggressive with only 1 threat present. racthoh, when you show people, do you ever let them fight alongside of you? yichi, can you confirm distracting shot?
i've done this run alongside a friend before and i didn't notice any distracting shots.
Racthoh
One time I had someone along with me for the entire time and we both survived quite handily. He was using an axe, and me with my sword. Neither one of us was using any spells.
I know the Grawls will use Signet of Agony when you're close to being dead, or when two or more targets are around them. Annoying things with also sometimes use Chilblains as well for the 7 degen transfer.
I know the Grawls will use Signet of Agony when you're close to being dead, or when two or more targets are around them. Annoying things with also sometimes use Chilblains as well for the 7 degen transfer.
Azn D
On me they never use distracting shot. They use savage shot when i forget to get on Watchful Spirit, otherwise all they do is called shot, apply poison, and healing spring.
Yichi
Ill see if i can get pics, but yes it was distracting and savage shot, dunno maybe just a glitch 
MoNo
Dude use sever art and gash if they through up Melandru's Resiliance use wild blow it disrupts stance so they don't regen from bleeding or deep wound
my skills are as follow
sprint
heal sig i get healed for 137
phy resis
sever art
gash
gal slash
wild blow
VIM i get healed 60 hp and 5 per condition per fow
i use stance sheild north east of thristy +45hp -2
vamp sord
i have a sup asob on too
no need for dol sig and wy take more dmg w/ you makes for much faster runs
my skills are as follow
sprint
heal sig i get healed for 137
phy resis
sever art
gash
gal slash
wild blow
VIM i get healed 60 hp and 5 per condition per fow
i use stance sheild north east of thristy +45hp -2
vamp sord
i have a sup asob on too
no need for dol sig and wy take more dmg w/ you makes for much faster runs
MoNo
yes they use dis shot still np lure the fist 3 out and kill let all the spiders come out then run away ( so that their h spring isn't on top of each other) let the spiders spread out ,then go in
i'll show anyone takes about 40 to 50 mins per run spiders should only be able to try and use hspring once unless you are fighting 2 or 3 beside each other
ign mono lific share people share
i'll show anyone takes about 40 to 50 mins per run spiders should only be able to try and use hspring once unless you are fighting 2 or 3 beside each other
ign mono lific share people share
Yichi
i thought i wasnt crazy......
stefan16
file still freaggin down, can you please repost one ?
?
Racthoh
Filefront if the only hosting site I'm familiar with. If anyone knows of any others I'll upload it to there since that site has been down for a while.
El_Inferno
www.rapidshare.de
www.megaupload.com
or any other of those new 1-click-free-file hoster
www.megaupload.com
or any other of those new 1-click-free-file hoster
Racthoh
Thanks, here is the link for the spiders until Filefront gets back up:
http://rapidshare.de/files/9134185/T...erRun.wmv.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/9134185/T...erRun.wmv.html
linkid
After looking at this thread, I tried this as well. I'm one of those people (some say cowards) that believe good defense beats good offense... so after several experiments I ended up with this build:
Strength 11 + 1 + 3
Tactics 10 + 1
Axe M 10 + 1
The reason I have 15 in strength is so that I can keep dolyak signet up indefintely. Most people would probably put it in axe for more damage. I also carry a minor rune strength helm for running until I get to safe zones away from the skales (+75 hp for 1 less second of sprint). The only reason I went with axe over sword is because of the lower adrenaline skills (to beat wastrel's worry easier) and just the fact I had a zealous axe with +7 shelter. I also use a -2 in stance shield.
Skills:
Sprint (obviously)
Flurry (adrenaline building, stance for -2 on the shield)
Dolyak Signet (+40 armor all the time, makes me really slow)
Watch Yourself (+20 armor when I need it)
Healing Signet
Cleave (low adrenaline +dmg attack)
Executioner's strike (the other adrenaline +dmg attack)
Shields Up (Great, probably the best, defense against rangers).
Fighting strategies are the same... I use shields up when I'm pulling (no movement penalty, faster pulling) and also when I use healing signet... with the two other armor boosting skills the spiders will still do 0 damage even when using healing sginet. I shouldn't be taking damage while not using healing signet anyways so the only damage I ever get is from poison (and occasional healing signets without shields up). Even though it has the 10 energy cost zealous axe (or sword, with or without flurry) with no energy based attack means I would have nearly full energy all the time. Also, having shields up also makes this (I think) a little more lag proof.
Strength 11 + 1 + 3
Tactics 10 + 1
Axe M 10 + 1
The reason I have 15 in strength is so that I can keep dolyak signet up indefintely. Most people would probably put it in axe for more damage. I also carry a minor rune strength helm for running until I get to safe zones away from the skales (+75 hp for 1 less second of sprint). The only reason I went with axe over sword is because of the lower adrenaline skills (to beat wastrel's worry easier) and just the fact I had a zealous axe with +7 shelter. I also use a -2 in stance shield.
Skills:
Sprint (obviously)
Flurry (adrenaline building, stance for -2 on the shield)
Dolyak Signet (+40 armor all the time, makes me really slow)
Watch Yourself (+20 armor when I need it)
Healing Signet
Cleave (low adrenaline +dmg attack)
Executioner's strike (the other adrenaline +dmg attack)
Shields Up (Great, probably the best, defense against rangers).
Fighting strategies are the same... I use shields up when I'm pulling (no movement penalty, faster pulling) and also when I use healing signet... with the two other armor boosting skills the spiders will still do 0 damage even when using healing sginet. I shouldn't be taking damage while not using healing signet anyways so the only damage I ever get is from poison (and occasional healing signets without shields up). Even though it has the 10 energy cost zealous axe (or sword, with or without flurry) with no energy based attack means I would have nearly full energy all the time. Also, having shields up also makes this (I think) a little more lag proof.
stefan16
2nd new download link also down.. still cant see it!
El_Inferno
no the rapidshare one works well .. just click on FREE and you have to wait some secs then it downloads.
anyway me got a question @ Racthoh:
how do you interrupt the healing of the spiders? in the vid it looks like you interrupt it but i checked the skills you use .. nonne of them got this ability (to interrupt something). me confused :P
anyway me got a question @ Racthoh:
how do you interrupt the healing of the spiders? in the vid it looks like you interrupt it but i checked the skills you use .. nonne of them got this ability (to interrupt something). me confused :P
Numa Pompilius
Linkid: You can kill the spiders with that? I took my considerably more offensive axe-build down there an spent fifteen minutes bashing three of them, and in the end managed to kill _one_ before getting bored and giving up...