i like the update but i hate it that they didnt add the wells to the scatter mobs 
Green defense bubble <---- stole that quote sorry.
but annyways i dont hate it its funny and it gives more tactic to the game.
Poll on the 10/10 and 10/11 Update
The undead Mesmer
i dont know what you all are whining about i like the update but i hate it that they didnt add the wells to the scatter mobs
Green defense bubble <---- stole that quote sorry.
but annyways i dont hate it its funny and it gives more tactic to the game.
i like the update but i hate it that they didnt add the wells to the scatter mobs Green defense bubble <---- stole that quote sorry.
but annyways i dont hate it its funny and it gives more tactic to the game.
aron searle
enemies now run out of AOE spells and just stand their doing nothing sometimes, especialy when solo.
tactics?
its like fighting the biggest bunch of noobs ever.
tactics?
its like fighting the biggest bunch of noobs ever.
Scaper
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You picked the wrong person to call earth crap to, man. I've been using earth for the entire game. It's not junk. Here's something for you to try: Enervating charge, Stoning, aftershock. That's a knockdown, weakness, AND a ton of damage, all for no exhaustion. Throw in Ether Prodigy, and you can keep doing that FOREVER. Have you ever tried taking a ward against melee? Keeps monks alive very well. I've never found a better skill to spike monk bosses with than Obsidian Flame. Armor of earth and Kinetic Armor are amazing. I have over one thousand hours in game, and over 950 of them were spent on an earth ele. It's not junk.
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Like if we were inside FA CAVE, before they nerfed it, and I nuked the Furnace guardain on the left and your took the one on the right who you think win killing race? My bet is I would proabably win who kils faster! I could proababbly kill in less than 1 min! an earth ele who relized on suck conditiosn as knockdown dont have much effect on them, in that race its about dam! i bet even if you had earth 16 and I had Fire 14 I probably still win! Bottom LIne this AoE Undates STILL SUCKS! ANd its baised toward Nukes in general of all elementals! ELEMENTALS HOMELESS GUILD NOW RECRUITING! lol
Sincerly, Scaper
wolver1ne
Yadda yadda.. people whine and whine. If you, as a player, are gettting affected by AoE, you don't stand on that same spot, you move your ass away from it. So why shouldn't the foes in PvE do the same? Because you can't farm a 100 foes group at once anymore? Awwww poor you! Give me a break.
Great update.. will take more to win now than just agro and shower.
Great update.. will take more to win now than just agro and shower.
aron searle
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Yadda yadda.. people whine and whine. If you, as a player, are gettting affected by AoE, you don't stand on that same spot, you move your ass away from it. So why shouldn't the foes in PvE do the same? Because you can't farm a 100 foes group at once anymore? Awwww poor you! Give me a break. Great update.. will take more to win now than just agro and shower. |
1 shot aoe spells.
CYLCLONE AXE making them run away.
so do you run away from cyclone axe then or 1 shot aoe, ok then.......
unienaule
1) It's not all about damage.
2) I didn't say anyone should switch, the elements are about EQUAL now.
3) This is a very important point, that nukers were the only class before now that never had to change their builds depending on the occasion.
2) I didn't say anyone should switch, the elements are about EQUAL now.
3) This is a very important point, that nukers were the only class before now that never had to change their builds depending on the occasion.
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Originally Posted by Antc
Altho i didnt like the 1st update, and havent checked out the 2nd one yet, it just occurred to me whilst reading this....
If i get in a group at ToA or SF with my monk, and they ask if can switch from healing>prot or vice versa, i'm quite happy to change my attributes and skillset to be part of that group. The same goes for my necro, if theres more than one necro in the group it gets decided who is going blood/death and who is going curses, and again, i will rearrange my skillset and attributes to suit. The thing that occurred to me is this: I have NEVER even considered changing the set up for my pyro, it has had 16 in fire since i got all the attributes. The only exception is when i've changed to air spiker for PvP or GvG. I guess now i'll have to be as flexible with my ele as i am with my other characters. |
Loralai
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Originally Posted by Trinity Entragian
Maybe the answer to fixing class discrimination in GUILD WARS is to eliminate PUGs all together. Make every PvE mission and quest Guild based. hmmm...
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aron searle
Hundred blades also causes them to flee as well as cyclone axe
/broken
/broken
=HT=E5Destroyer
i also do not like this update. same reasons. if this update stays then they need to remove athe AOE spells ebcasue they are worthless now unless you PVP. maybe thats whay they want us all to go to pvp.. oh well i was just getting back into this game guess ill go back to bf2..lol
Hash Mama
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Hundred blades also causes them to flee as well as cyclone axe
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naah u can still kill griffons in like 5 minutes its only stupid game made buy not so wise pips.......F U C K AoE praise ur brain
aron searle
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100 blades is a 1 shot SWORD skill, enemies should not run form it.
YET ANOTHER SKILL that warrios now cant use to tank effectivly. (dont harp on about snares, they are not as efficent).
John TrickKnee
This game was clearly designed so you couldn't go out alone to kill things and survive. Unfortunately, they made warriors, fire elems and the invincimonks able to do just that. They are trying to correct these errors.
The whiners are proving that this update was needed. When I see people complain that they can't solo 20 or 30 monsters at once, I feel like hurling. Since when is it reasonable for one character to be able to survive 30 on 1? Realistically, nobody should be able to handle more than 2 or 3 vs. 1. Maybe 5 at the most. Go walk down dark alleys until you get jumped by 3 guys. You think you will win?
Thank your lucky stars that you were able to exploit these imbalances as long as you did. If you don't want to play Guild Wars because of this change, please go back to your kiddie games. Some people are never happy unless they have an unfair advantage. I won't miss you at all.
The whiners are proving that this update was needed. When I see people complain that they can't solo 20 or 30 monsters at once, I feel like hurling. Since when is it reasonable for one character to be able to survive 30 on 1? Realistically, nobody should be able to handle more than 2 or 3 vs. 1. Maybe 5 at the most. Go walk down dark alleys until you get jumped by 3 guys. You think you will win?
Thank your lucky stars that you were able to exploit these imbalances as long as you did. If you don't want to play Guild Wars because of this change, please go back to your kiddie games. Some people are never happy unless they have an unfair advantage. I won't miss you at all.
Loralai
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Originally Posted by John TrickKnee
This game was clearly designed so you couldn't go out alone to kill things and survive. Unfortunately, they made warriors, fire elems and the invincimonks able to do just that. They are trying to correct these errors.
The whiners are proving that this update was needed. When I see people complain that they can't solo 20 or 30 monsters at once, I feel like hurling. Since when is it reasonable for one character to be able to survive 30 on 1? Realistically, nobody should be able to handle more than 2 or 3 vs. 1. Maybe 5 at the most. Go walk down dark alleys until you get jumped by 3 guys. You think you will win? Thank your lucky stars that you were able to exploit these imbalances as long as you did. If you don't want to play Guild Wars because of this change, please go back to your kiddie games. Some people are never happy unless they have an unfair advantage. I won't miss you at all. |
aron searle
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This game was clearly designed so you couldn't go out alone to kill things and survive. Unfortunately, they made warriors, fire elems and the invincimonks able to do just that. They are trying to correct these errors. The whiners are proving that this update was needed. When I see people complain that they can't solo 20 or 30 monsters at once, I feel like hurling. Since when is it reasonable for one character to be able to survive 30 on 1? Realistically, nobody should be able to handle more than 2 or 3 vs. 1. Maybe 5 at the most. Go walk down dark alleys until you get jumped by 3 guys. You think you will win? Thank your lucky stars that you were able to exploit these imbalances as long as you did. If you don't want to play Guild Wars because of this change, please go back to your kiddie games. Some people are never happy unless they have an unfair advantage. I won't miss you at all. |
Cyclone axe
100 Blades
Wirling defense
cause monsters to flee
its retarded ai at its best.
=HT=E5Destroyer
they need to do something about monks. maybe giving other prof better healing skills. i am sick of these monks thinking they are all high and mighty.
Hash Mama
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Originally Posted by aron searle
Dont tell me to use my brain, use YOURS.
100 blades is a 1 shot SWORD skill, enemies should not run form it. YET ANOTHER SKILL that warrios now cant use to tank effectivly. (dont harp on about snares, they are not as efficent). |
I am just sad, couse we could make all the q in uw in 3-4 hours and now it will take about 10 so how i am supposed to play Gw. I need to work ,sleep ,RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO my wife and make living, i doubt if anybody of my guild will be abble to stick in UW for such a long time.Nevermind ,griffons are same way stupid as they where not mentionig unded.They still kill them selfs on retribution and soj.....it just take a while longer
Peace
aron searle
Yea my invinci monk was killed hydra farming last night.
He was bored to death.
He was bored to death.
Zexion
aron searle is my God!
And besides, when normal (ie non-retarded) players run out of AoE, they don't run 10 meters away, and stand there for 5 seconds, before returning.
Monsters do that. They run so far away, for so long THAT THEY ACTUALLY REGENERATE HEALTH IF THEY ARE NOT UNDER THE EFFECT OF DEGEN!
KKTHXBI, to those who still defends this update.
_Zexion
And besides, when normal (ie non-retarded) players run out of AoE, they don't run 10 meters away, and stand there for 5 seconds, before returning.
Monsters do that. They run so far away, for so long THAT THEY ACTUALLY REGENERATE HEALTH IF THEY ARE NOT UNDER THE EFFECT OF DEGEN!
KKTHXBI, to those who still defends this update.
_Zexion
Leslie
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Anet needs to get rid of the patch for at least a few weeks to reevaluate the sitution. The idea of what they were doing was decent, but it was implemented terribly. The AI just runs around like a stupid chicken everytime it gets hit. This makes em stupider not smarter.
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Hash Mama
Yea farming its easier now couse we face a bunch of cowards.All monsters become COWARDS they are running now to mommy....("mommy mommy he hit me buuuuu") it is becoming to easy geez i like my black dye drops
aron searle
Throw dirt makes em run ffs.
OH NOEZ i have dirt in my eye, run for your life.
OH NOEZ i have dirt in my eye, run for your life.
Zexion
Heh, I bet suffering does so too then?
"What, he cast an AoE curse on us? What shall we do? Run away, or try to dispell it?"
*runs*
I can imagine it:P
_Zexiion
"What, he cast an AoE curse on us? What shall we do? Run away, or try to dispell it?"
*runs*
I can imagine it:P
_Zexiion
Lag Hell
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Throw dirt makes em run ffs.
OH NOEZ i have dirt in my eye, run for your life. |
plastichead
i still farm...
it may take a little longer but its still more gold, xp,and items.
and i have not noticed any fleeing enemies when i use cyclone axe.
in fact cyclones all i use now, only attack i have, all else is stances and healing, not that much healing is needed since i can only aggro 2 groups at a time.
i voted that i wont compromise but the truth is i really dont care.
i am not doing it for the money, im doing it to unlock weapons and mods for pvp (which i intend to start playing....someday).
i sell all of my stuff to the freakin merchants, trying to sell to humans is just a waste of time (unless they're guildies)
it may take a little longer but its still more gold, xp,and items.
and i have not noticed any fleeing enemies when i use cyclone axe.
in fact cyclones all i use now, only attack i have, all else is stances and healing, not that much healing is needed since i can only aggro 2 groups at a time.
i voted that i wont compromise but the truth is i really dont care.
i am not doing it for the money, im doing it to unlock weapons and mods for pvp (which i intend to start playing....someday).
i sell all of my stuff to the freakin merchants, trying to sell to humans is just a waste of time (unless they're guildies)
entropy
Ignite still does. I can solo 1 of any monster now since all they do is run back and forth and can't decide whether or not to run or fight. OMFG ingite is hitting me for 4 dmg run!!! For all the people that like the update its PvE not PvP. If I wanted a challenge and some fun I would do PvP. If PvE ever became like PvP whereas it takes around 2-3 minutes to take down 1 group in 4vs4 ca that would just suck. I have never nuked anything. I have never used fire on my ele after lvl 10. My only PvE warrior is lvl 11 so it doesn't farm. I mean wtf. It is total bullshit. Missions take forever. And all the people who want realism this is a game. Not real life if you want that go and live it and just quit the game.
Mahanaxar
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Should
Cyclone axe 100 Blades Wirling defense cause monsters to flee its retarded ai at its best. |
Why people don't answer to this?
And just keep saying "cry more noob, try to use your brain" and so on.
New AI is BROKEN...lev 28 melee mobs are NOT supposed to run away like chickens from a suicidal necro using unholy feast in melee range.
Really smart ai eh? They can kill him in 2 hits, but run away from a single shot aoe spells.
Very realistic
plastichead
in my experience cyclone axe and other melee based attacks dont cause them to flee
Theos
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Originally Posted by Mahanaxar
Why people don't answer to this?
And just keep saying "cry more noob, try to use your brain" and so on. New AI is BROKEN...lev 28 melee mobs are NOT supposed to run away like chickens from a suicidal necro using unholy feast in melee range. Really smart ai eh? They can kill him in 2 hits, but run away from a single shot aoe spells. Very realistic |
As for whirling, I'd call that a bug and not intended; So why do you use it as a counter argument, its simply one of those things that occurs when you add things.
aron searle
Well ive re-tested it and you seem to be right, although im still not sure about 100 blades as they did once.
But throw dirt still makes them run, and wirling defense.
(but still i dont really care, this update has taken some of the fun out of it. Its not at all harder just a little more longwinded and some skills are now not worth using, yea you can use snare but its not worth the effort).
and throw dirt making them run is pathetic
But throw dirt still makes them run, and wirling defense.
(but still i dont really care, this update has taken some of the fun out of it. Its not at all harder just a little more longwinded and some skills are now not worth using, yea you can use snare but its not worth the effort).
and throw dirt making them run is pathetic
Melkor of ZoSo
The update renders tons of spells completely useless. Why even have AOE spells now?
Venus
I like the fact that they are making pve harder, by having more "intellegent" npc's. But I dislike when the monsters run around pointlessly during some spells (and skills).
Theos
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The update renders tons of spells completely useless. Why even have AOE spells now?
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Melkor of ZoSo
Simple Solution to all of ANet's problems:
Protective Spirit: For x seconds, target OTHER ally cannot lose more than 10% of his health due to a single spell or attack
Same with bond. Don't nerf the skill, just fix it.
Protective Spirit: For x seconds, target OTHER ally cannot lose more than 10% of his health due to a single spell or attack
Same with bond. Don't nerf the skill, just fix it.
Navaros
I hate the update because they nerfed my favorite past-time and the single funnest thing about Guild Wars - dropping people off in "The Lair" from Tombs.
I will always hate this update until the devs unnerf my favorite hobby. (PS: for those who think I am joking, no I am not!)
I will always hate this update until the devs unnerf my favorite hobby. (PS: for those who think I am joking, no I am not!)
Night Raven
Team X fight mob Y
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TeamX Fire Ele: Starts casting a spell.
MobYEnemy1: Look! That Ele is casting a spell!
MobYEnemy2: OMFG! That can't be good!
MobYEnemy3: RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!
MobY: WAHHHHHHHH! RUNNNNN!! (and scatter in every direction).
TeamX Warrior: What the hell did you cast for them to run like that?
TeamX Fire Ele: Err... Fire Attunement...
Just for comical relief.
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TeamX Fire Ele: Starts casting a spell.
MobYEnemy1: Look! That Ele is casting a spell!
MobYEnemy2: OMFG! That can't be good!
MobYEnemy3: RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!
MobY: WAHHHHHHHH! RUNNNNN!! (and scatter in every direction).
TeamX Warrior: What the hell did you cast for them to run like that?
TeamX Fire Ele: Err... Fire Attunement...
Just for comical relief.
projectnavi
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
It was a good idea, but implemented very poorly. They shouldn't have targeted just AoE. Until Empathy, Backfire and the like are treated in the similar manner as AoEs now, I will continue to be displeased.
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Dakna DiHarr
The change they made went to far, overall i would be more mad if they went back now as from the changes i have done to fit.
Iere
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Originally Posted by Melkor of ZoSo
Simple Solution to all of ANet's problems:
Protective Spirit: For x seconds, target OTHER ally cannot lose more than 10% of his health due to a single spell or attack Same with bond. Don't nerf the skill, just fix it. |
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As far as being on-topic goes, I enjoy the changes to the henchmen, although I think that some of the implementation of the patch vs. enemies is silly-- watching the Aatxes run back and forth makes me smile.
Yes, it's apparent that people are too hung up on the changes to the enemies to notice the changes to the henchmen. I know I'm happy that Mhenlo and Lina stop standing in Maelstroms.
chingon
By changing only 2 of my kills and some weapons i find farming griffons and minos easier. UW seems more rewarding. got 4 ectos in 2 runs, though i keep dying easier out of carelesness on my part. I'm not saying i like the changes, but it's not all that hard to adapt to.
Mahanaxar
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Sorry to be crude but no spell has been rendered useless, I am sorry if you just can't understand the idea of SLOW; you know crippling shot, deep freeze, shards, illusion mesmer line, etc... The only thing that has been rendered useless is the "OMG I Can button mash fire spells and winzor!"
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Is retard to see a bunch of aatxes run away from a necro (me) casting unholy feast. It works in melee range and is a 1 shot aoe spells. Why the hell should lev 28 monsters run away from a necro? They can pulverize me in 2 seconds.
Is this supposed to be realistic?