Warriors On Strike

Mostly because there is more Whammos, but they still did it - Just what i said ^^
This is not about it though, and i didnt mean to offend anyone if they thought that.

Anyone not wearing 1 piece of Knights/Ascalon armor for as long as we've known about this is an idiot. Anet or any of their reps never said it was an exploit. The people that tested it out and confirmed the effects of 1 piece of knights/ascalon armor didn't think it was an exploit. You can call it an exploit if you like, but it has been in the game for a very long time, and if you don't take advantage of it you're as sharp as a bowling ball. Besides, it not just about the boots, if you bothered to read the whole post. It's that gladiator's armor may no longer be the no-brainer armor of choice in PvE.

What you state as FACT - that armor was meant to be used in sets, is merely your opinion. Your opinion may seem like fact to you, but not to the rest of us.

Note that buying new armor doesn't affect Ebayers. Gold is cheap on Ebay. People have a lot of money without ebay because they're good players/farmers. Don't hate just cuz ppl have better, or more expensive stuff than you. Assuming ebay anytime you see expensive armor is pretty sad.

Lastly, going by your opinion that armor should be used in sets. Players may want to change their whole armor now that they will be taking more damage when tanking. I'm just saying it's not fair to those who spent a lot of money on their current armors. For some players, even their 1.5k armor took a long time to get and now they have to do it all over again.

I know it's a long debate, but try and keep up.

It may not be "fair", but that doesn't justify a rollback of the update. I mean, I can understand the people complaining because they lost money on this, but those who complain because their beloved warrior can no longer farm without taking damage are just being plain idiotic in my opinion.

And as someone else in this thread said, you can't be a tank with a pure damage build. There are other ways of reducing damage, so if you really want to tank, you're gonna have to change your skill bar a bit.

guys, guys, if you farm, dont forget to bring Greater Conflagration.

No offense taken. I just think this whole thing is silly. Oh and btw, I'm in HA now and I see no striking warriors.

I just watched a match between harmless and the #30 guild. Both builds had 3 W/E. Both teams clashed behind the stand. The first player down was a warrior within range and being healed by the monk and a rit spamming spirits. The 2nd down was another war on the same team.

They dped the wars then the others just got ran over.

Tactics are already changing to accomidate this new weakness. Welcome to the new meta game. Kill the wars first. Now how many skill slots did you waste to support a war that can be dped out within the first few minites of the match?

Yeah good idea... lets make it so Eles can kill Monks in 1 Lightning Orb/Lightning Strike combo just so they can do more damage to Warriors. Think a little about the casters in your group, not just yourself.

As for those groups who can get along without a warrior...

All Mesmer UW teams
All Ritualist Deep teams
All Elementalist FoW teams

The FoW trip which i was a part of seemed to get along quite using an earth tank with about twice the armour of any normal tank. Believe me you are replacable. If you go on strike i can assure you that an Earth Ele Tank with Stone Daggers, Kinetic Armour, Armour of Earth, Obsidian Flesh and Silver Armour could replace you. How much armour is that... 234 (i think), complete immunity to spells and 50%ish chance to block and deal lots of damage to nearby targets.
Yeah i think your replacable. Your just easier to use and can deal more damage.

Yeah it's silly. Dont need to be Einstein to figure that out

When I bought 15K Kurzick armor for my warrior, I accidently bought the whole Gladiator set including the boot. I should have bought the Ascalon or Knight boot just like the old 15K armr set but forgot. However, -2 damage reduction is not that big deal anyway so I stick with my Gladiator set. Now it turns out I just save some gold due to a misktake from the past lol.

I'm begining to think you and I are the only ones who think so.

Ok guys, maybe I'm mentally retarded, but how can recieving an extra like 6 damage or whatever make warriors useless? I just can't seem to wrap my head around this concept.

I am not a PvPer, but I have noticed absolutely 0 change on my PvE warrior. I would much appreciate an explanation for this "ZomFG warriors are useless" mindset people seem to have.

Someone mentioned that a group of 3 warriors got smushed and then the whoel team fell. Isn;t it possible that that had nothing to do with shields and armor? Couldn't that have happened anyway?

I am specing a few GvG matches right now, and honestly I'm not seeing any justification for all this freaking out.

Also, wear 5 pieces of Knights armor and you use 5 superior runes of absorption. That's -30 dmg per hit

wahahhaha.

/singed

all warriors on strike please press alt+f4 now. it will revert all your armor and everything back to how it used to be. maybe then you will stop QQing.

I love this update. The level of passive dmg reduction on Wars was stupid. Made no sense at all, and created a tunnelling effect around the way Wars should be configured and run.

It's a good thing that it will shake up the meta. Wars will still have a place, they'll just look a little different. More thumpers? Maybe. But the answer to thumpers is phys, so...

Still, it would be pretty righteous if they added an outfitter for swapping expensive armor pieces. There was obviously something out of place with the way it worked, but that doesn't mean it's a bad idea to give people a way to back out of a choice that seemed obvious since first time Ascalon was Seared.

Unfortunately your message will go unheeded. Not because warrior's are smarter than we give them credit for (ok, that mgiht have been uncalled for) but because I just went to Heroe's Audience as well as Heroe's Ascent and there is absolutely no evidence of a strike at either location (in both American and International districts). There are no warriors striking to obey your command!

There may have been 1 or 2, but they certainly weren't being open about it. There was none of the fanatical raving, swearing, bickering and all around hysteria that existed for those couple of days at THK during the Monk strike.

It's 7 dmg more. Really only affects a warrior who is being targeted by multiple attackers. Say 5 attackers, attacking once every 3 seconds (some warriors with increased attack speed and elemental mods, others casters). Assuming the warrior's armor level is not high enough to negate the damage being done. That's + 7 dmg from 5 sources = + 35 dmg taken every 3 secs. You will definetely feel this if you are a solo warrior farmer. Otherwise, in general pvp and pve, you'll only feel it a little.

Over 10 seconds, a warrior may take +105 damage than before from 5 foes. In some places where there are a lot of enemies, this dmg taken could go up a lot.

At 60 AL, if you take 25 dmg (non physical), you would take 17 or 18 dmg with 80 AL. By wearing a 90 AL armor set, this dmg will go down to 14 or 15. Before the update, with 80 AL you would take 10 or 11 dmg.

If you go with sentinel's armor, for the 100 AL (which limits your build options), then the 25 dmg would do only 12 or 13. As you can see, this dmg taken is still higher than the 10 or 11 with 80 AL before the update.

What this update means overall? Gladiator's armor is no longer the best option for a warrior in PvE. This means new armor sets for many warriors. A costly option for those that like to look good while having useful armor.

As far as gameplay goes, the effect is not as huge as some make it out to be. In GvGs, most warriors who are concerned will switch to the 90 AL armor. They'll be taking 4 more dmg than before from elemental and non-physical attacks, but this isn't going to help spike a warrior to death. Even if they stay at 80 AL, the + 7 dmg taken over time isn't going to factor into a spike.

In PvE, expect the monk or healer to work a little more, especially when there are over 10 enemies around. 10 enemies means + 70 dmg every 3 secs, and 210 every 9 secs. For solo farmers, this really hurts when facing elemental damage enemies.

Most of the complaints are overreactions, in my view. When you do the math, the increased damage taken is not as awful as it is made out to be. The truly legit compaint, in my view, is the new armor sets that many warriors are going to have to buy as many may want to trade in their Gladiator's sets for 90 AL sets. I shudder at the thought of a warrior buying a whole new FoW armor set.

Lol, im sitting in Heroes' Audience atm. i got there about 15 mins ago, and there werent any warriors there at all. im hovering over all of them in my roflcopter right now.

that is mainly what we are asking for, for those who actual read this forum, and not just run it down with ignorance...

we want a fix to thier fix.... we need armor against ele, ive always said that, but now im pushing the issue.... and for those who got the armor like knights and such should beable to exchange it.... now ppl will say, that is proly in the works... my question is, why "fix" one thing but not have the "fix" available at time of update?!?!

Also, calling it a bug, or an accident is total false, bugs and such dont last 13 months then just get fixed... u dont launch a sequel to the game with same bug in it.... all the books, all the charts, everything has always said things like "Superior Absorbsion: -3 dmg recieved" that means, they ment for it to be just like that, now they just take thier little pen and scrible in "physical" and think it will just be no big deal....

WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR A FIX.... and plz dont let it take 13 months, or one we have to reinvest thousands of gold into!!!!

You have been fixed. Wars are now more vulnerable to ele. Or rather, they are now not as invulnerable as they were. You should NOT get armor vs. ele. Ever.

Well in the meantime there are weapon mods with armor against elemental damage. And shields with +10 vs specific elemental damage.

Asking for Warrior armor with armor against elemental isnt unreasonable but prepare for it to come with drawbacks too. And it probably won't be in the game until a new chapter comes along as new content.

SHHHH ... your two hours is showing. Feel free to check the amount of adrenaline required to use those skills. For third time ... FIRST STRIKE SKILL. Read my post again and if still lost ... hooked on phonics may help.

the only eles that were whining about warriors being overpowered were the ones that didn't want to think outside the box with their uber 1337 fire skills. I mean I could drop warriors easily with water magic before this nerf and now I'll drop them even faster.

I knew the global absorbtion thing was coming, I am happy it has been fixed even tho I used it. I'll pay for the boots.

What I DON'T like is how drastic the changes to armor were IN GENERAL. The Absorbtion has now GOONED Glad armor in my eyes and I just finished a full 15k kurz glad set (minus boots, but I dun care since I'll pay for my error).

I'd like to be able to change that to dreadnaught armor given the horrendous change to absorbtion.

I value defence over nrg as a W/N sorry =(

I know I was happy about knights/ascalon finally being fixed but then they made the sets completely useless no matter what :/

I guarantee you all the gladiator armor will be the next to face the nerf bat in order to balance (aka nerf something that is useful but isn't overpowered) , you heard it here first!

WOOT! Now all we need is expanded storage to hold those 3 shields!!! Maybe I will put them in the awesome new storage upgrade Anet gave us! <3 The +10 was one of the first shield nerfs from Anet .. it used to be +8 was max. After that lovely little upgrade all those with "perfect shields" suddenly had non max shields ... GG Anet. Sorry I have been burned on more gold courtesy of that blind SOB swinging the nerfbat it makes me want to 1v1 someone in RL.

4 words guys....
Trust In Your Monks

seriously....do u not believe in us?
u think we cant heal u whe 5 or more eles are beatn down on u?
thats just upsetting

remember.....prot spirit
prot spirit= teh godly

Do you want to see something funny? Take a Ranger with Studded Leather armor, which means 70 armor against everything, plus 30 armor against elemental damage, plus 15 armor against Lightning damage, for a total of 115 armor against Lightning. Now take a Warrior (with his "goldly" shield which only protects him against physical damage), and even if you have the 100 armor (which not everyone has), you have 15 less armor against Lightning than the Ranger.

Against a Ritualist boss, guess who would take less damage, "NOOB"?

Definitely. You can do a lot more damage than a Healing Monk or a Restoration Ritualist.

They are, like all the other classes. And like all the other classes, they are not needed, only useful. If this strike truly happened, then maybe more people would realize this.

Erasculio

exactly ... lets use protective spirit as an example.

lets say for instance protective spirit was reworded to: "For 5...19 seconds, target ally cannot lose more than 10% max health due to damage from a single PHYSICAL attack."

lets say distortion was changed to: "For 5 seconds, you have a 75% chance to evade PHYSICAL attacks. Whenever you evade an attack this way, you lose 4...2 energy or Distortion ends."

how would THAT be taken by the community? this is basically what they have done to warriors absorption runes and shields.

if you look back to my other posts, i think ive pretty much shared my opinion on everything except solo farming. warrior farming has taken much more than a "minor hit" (as someone said). ice imps and titans jump right out at me for starters. and no, i havent tried my builds against them post-update, but i seriously doubt theyre possible now. some of you wont care that warrior farming pretty much got downsized to "melee monsters only," but i certainly do. i enjoyed testing my mettle against titans, mursaat, and other casters. some builds i created worked ...some didnt. now its just silly to try some areas with warriors. and please dont anyone suggest that warrior solo farming was "overpowered." thats BS and you all know it. go look at the farming forum and youll see 55monks, 605monks, 55necros, vengeful rits, solo UW trapper rangers, solo touch rangers, 55mesmers, R/Me FoW farmers, fire ele farmers, earth ele farmers .... and thats just the the ones i remember off the top of my head. in many cases/areas, soloing with a warrior was no where near as efficient as it was with other classes.

one final thing. in the trade forums, a "no bid/no post" violation results in a temp ban- no exceptions. i would like to politely suggest that mods take a similar stance here. ive read every post in this thread (and many more than once), and i am truly disappointed to say that while catching up just now (after spending the day with the family) i still see so many childish responses, flames, and trolls. it pains me to see just how ignorant and petty some people have proven themselves to be. if you dont have anything intelligent to add, just dont post.

whether you choose to accept it or not, warriors certainly have a right to be upset about the DR change. and they have a right (to a lesser extent- though this isnt an issue for me, personally) to be upset about the loss of gold spent on items ANET should have fixed (or at least removed from the game until a fix could be implemented) long ago. im sick and tired of the "deal with it" ... the "just quit" ... and anything regarding mending posts.

It is not until just resently that A-net was able to change items allready in ppl's storage( rockmolder etc etc) including armor, now the technology is there and they used it. If they had tried to fix the armor glitch earlyer ppl might have lost the armor all together. remember the RUNE ROLLBACK with todays technology they would just have removed the runes from ppl's storage = no rollback

How would you have liked it to log on and find your FOW armor gone?

God gave you a brain, try using it.

Someone has clearly never heard of adrenaline spikes, or more likely, doesn't have the capacity to perform them.

The outrage from warriors is hilarious... mainly because all of the good warriors I know just take it in stride. There isn't anything more to say... except that this really is a minor change.

Yep, I watched a couple of GvG and the warriors were doing just fine. Like I said, you have the right to be upset about losing money because you now need a new set of armor, but whining about the "nerf" just makes you look like a cry baby. You know warriors can't have everything, I say be glad you have the absorbtion rune in the first place ... My Assassin could really use one of those too, but only the poor useless and underpowered warriors gets to have them.

Like many others have stated, the good warriors will adapt. Heck even my guildy friend who plays most of the time as a warrior or a monk said that this thread was stupid.

Please tell me more I only have 8k of fame so I must be a noob. If warriors are made into a softer target ... who is going to ignore them while they build adrenaline to spike that monk? While you are at it perhaps you could actually read the post that came from? Amazing how so many here slamming the unhappy warriors don't even play warrior. Any of your friends have a million + tied up in equipment that Anet just made obsolete? If they take a million + loss in stride ... perhaps they should stop buying Ebay gold.

Chill, it's not like you lost your lifesavings, IT'S a GAME

i seem to remember a time when i logged on to find the 10 or so "2 grip axes" gone from my inventory and replaced with a different axe. none of my other axes were changed or deleted. this certainly wasnt recently (and i used my god-given brain to spell that right). doesnt seem like a stretch to me that they could have done the same with 'molders and knights/ascalon armors earlier. seems to me like the issue is they just didnt CARE to change 'molders and nolani wands until now. and i certainly dont believe they care about changing our knights boots into something else now ... or that they ever will. if its a game breaking issue (like the axe clearly was), theyll fix it quick. if not, im sure it goes somewhere on the priority list.

I'm sorry for any misspellings but english is only my third language.
I really wish I could put it in words here in my native tounge but then the ignorent americans(95% of the anglo population only speaks english) would not get the message

Has anyone considered that with the increasing amount of professions being added to GW through chapters that there will be more melee professions. Its already widely accepted that CHP3 will have a bladed staff wielding profession.. So maybe Warriors WILL need more against physical... Considering the only other damage that is reduced by armor is elemental.

Sorry to dissepoint you but I have a Wammo thats gone through both chapters, and have 15K armor + pluse some deasent weapons( no +100K weapons but max), and super vigor and super abs.