Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex
Its just to stop annoying people from Ctrl Clicking the weapon name over and over even though they spent no effort on making the weapon, because all that'll do is "I'm wielding an Inscribed XX axe of defense".
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ChildeOfMalkav
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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex
Its just to stop annoying people from Ctrl Clicking the weapon name over and over even though they spent no effort on making the weapon, because all that'll do is "I'm wielding an Inscribed XX axe of defense".
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Phoenix Ex
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Originally Posted by sumrtym
Points to the crappiness inherent in these people's so called arguments. I'm leet if my weapon is gold, never mind if it's the same as someone elses, and I want to ping my weapon like a madman when I get in a group so you know I'm uber. If you have an inscription name ping, then you're a noob and I own you LOL.
That's their mentality. The sooner ANET kills it the better for all the people playing this game. And I say this as a person with a stack of greens / golds / 1.4 million in storage on toons, and 4 sets of fissure armor. I don't have to go around beating people up about it like you seem to need to. At the same time, I'm incredibly frustrated I STILL can't get weapon stats I want on skins I want. ANET is going to solve it, and I applaud them for it. All you leet-speak-i'm-cooler-than-you-cause-i-use-gold-weapons guys can either deal with it or go play WOW. |
). The name change proposal was said by my GUILDIE, and I thought about it and see absolutely no harm to either side. Casual players get good look skin and feel more imersed in the game, REAL gold weapons economy (let them have it) stays intact.
leprekan
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
That's annoying no matter what weapon you're wielding.
So Death is trying to turn a profit from an upcoming release... wow, that's news. |
sixdartbart
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Originally Posted by leprekan
Just wow talk about hypocrites. While shopping what did I find in high end? http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10054638 The guy screaming for cheap perfect crystallines is trying to buy an unconditional weapon to make the most expensive item in the game if this update goes through. |
Phoenix Ex
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Originally Posted by ChildeOfMalkav
I swear all your posts are either the most inane ramblings or you're just joking around. I sincerely hope you're just screwing around.
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Mordakai
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Originally Posted by sixdartbart
That aside the moral of this is that this economy of high end weapons is based on the people who are willing to participate in it with collectors/green items/pvp creation nobody is forced to take part in any of it.
The buying and selling of expensive items is something that some people enjoy doing. |
Phoenix Ex
Two April Mornings
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
Not all Mods are available on Collector's or Greens.
Kinda defeats the moral, no? People will still enjoy collecting, and selling. In fact, with a new element in play (Inscriptions), this will just increase the amount of fun one can have buying and selling. |
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by leprekan
Uh not just turn a profit. He has been arguing prices are too high all along and wants to try to exploit the update to create what would be the most expensive item in guild wars. Unconditional weapons were removed from the drop system after week or 2 of release. He is trying to create what was never meant to be.
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Two April Mornings
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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex
That's why I suggested the proposal several posts back.
Make Inscription weapon = Green with All Mods, but with all the cons about greens (different name, color, inability to swap mods). To all the people that says all they want is to look good and not to mess with the economy, please give a reason why my proposal is bad, and improvements. |
Tommy
sixdartbart
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
Not all Mods are available on Collector's or Greens.
Kinda defeats the moral, no? People will still enjoy collecting, and selling. In fact, with a new element in play (Inscriptions), this will just increase the amount of fun one can have buying and selling. |
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Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
99% on mods are available on greens adn colelctors items.
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Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
You are totally assuming the amount of fun people will have. Most people who previously were whining because they could nto afford their 15^50 crystalline or because they simply coudln't have a gold wep with the saem stats as collectors, those whiners will have more fun. Again, that is the essential problem with this possible change. It would be like the Diablo 2 1.1 Patch.
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Originally Posted by sixdartbart
so please stop trying to take things out of context and maybe address the issue of all combos being available on collectors items
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Velath
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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex
That's why I suggested the proposal several posts back.
Make Inscription weapon = Green with All Mods, but with all the cons about greens (different name, color, inability to swap mods). To all the people that says all they want is to look good and not to mess with the economy, please give a reason why my proposal is bad, and improvements. |
Tommy
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Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious
I'm just making a valid point here, you state that this will benefit you and hurt others in the long run. Well, I will have to agree to disagree with your point of view and move on. I'm not going to get into some pointless internet arguement here.
Diamonds are rare, because of the nature of their creation. You argue that something that is almost the same and not as rare is just as valid, would you want your wife wearing a ring with a chunk of carbon on it, because it's almost the same thing just not as rare? Elitist is an attitude, not an amount of virtual money you have on your video game. 1 to 10 million for your average player eh? That's an interesting figure, I myself have 10k in storage, I spent 40k on cap signets this last weekend, and when I get 10-40k in storage I feel comfortable and don't see the need to aquire more wealth at that point unless I'm after something specific. I guess in your opinion I'm a newbie then? 3000 hours and still a newbie, because I don't care about having 1mil+ gold... Who knew? |
.. most ppl i know of got more than 3 millions. so yeah they are like average for me. but again. i am the old school GWers i played at the time when you can solo uw with your eyes closed and get 500k a day from minoes in Elona. so 10 million aint a really big number for me. but most of ppl in my era already quit. none of them still playing. It is the golden ages of GW. I remember selling req9 15^50 handaxe without any mods for 400k and req8 13^50 chaos axe for 1 million.
sixdartbart
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Originally Posted by Tommy
set a fix price for most upgrades might be good idea. lets say 20k for hp30 sword pommel 25k for 20/20 sundering. this way ppl can only sell below the trader's price. this should help stablize the market.
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sixdartbart
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
The issue: Not all combos are available on collector's items. Solution: Offer Inscriptions so people can make any item they want. Prognosis: Good for the game. |
Velath
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Originally Posted by sixdartbart
Or
The issue: Not all combos are available on collector's items. Solution: Add collectors/green items with the overlooked combos. Prognosis: Stay consitant with how these problems have been addressed before and still allow some things in the game to be "special" and giving players a sense of achievement to obtain them while not giving any type of an advantage over other players. |
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by sixdartbart
Or
The issue: Not all combos are available on collector's items. Solution: Add collectors/green items with the overlooked combos. Prognosis: Stay consitant with how these problems have been addressed before and still allow some things in the game to be "special" and giving players a sense of achievement to obtain them while not giving any type of an advantage over other players. |
SA_DEMON
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Originally Posted by Velath
Nothing wrong with the suggestion, but it doesn't need a label as in "Inscribed weapon of xx" ... By that logic it should be "Modified Sundering Crystalline..."
I would be happy that you cold only inscribe customized weapons. I want them for playing not for trading... |
Lynnrose
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Originally Posted by Velath
Here's a point about req though off-topic. I took two swords (different type but no other dmg mods, one req 9 the other 12) went to battle isles and the place where the different armor levels are. With 12 in swordsmanship I did it twice, wrote down the damage produced and found that with the req 9 sword I did 6 more dmg on a critical hit and 4 more dmg on average. I think strength was set at 10 and didn't change for either of the tests. Can someone confirm this for me or answer whether there might have been some other type of influence? Edit - If this is the case than there should be even more demand for lower req rare skin weapons rather than "crappy" req rare skins. If someones at home would you like to check on this? I wrote about 40 dmg numbers each time so I wouldn't "kill" the armor. (put first edit in wrong spot!)
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Velath
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Originally Posted by Lynnrose
Your test was unnecessary and your conclusion inherently flawed. The req of a weapon has no bearing on its damage output. If you increased your swordsmanship rating for the req 12 test over the req 9 test, your data is flawed. If you used the req 12 sword with less than 12 in swordsmanship, your data is flawed. If you did everything equally but are trying to draw a conclusion from an extremely limited data set, your conclusion is flawed. The bottom line is: the req of a weapon, by itself, has no impact on damage output of the weapon. The testing has already been completed and published by Ensign and others. You could have dedicated the time you took conducting the test to reading those articles and actually learning something.
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sumrtym
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Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
Nothing is wrong with that at all. I love that idea, even maybe take it further and make it so only cuztomized weapons can have inscriptions added to them.
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Two April Mornings
Cjlr
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Originally Posted by Leprekan
1% on ANY mod is not enough of an advantage to merit the wrecking of the economy. Any mod 1% less than PERFECT is DIRT CHEAP ALREADY. You keep arguing the NEED for that extra 1% when it is only vanity. The VERY RARE times anyone is down to 1hp and lives without a monk saving his/her butt is reaching to the extent of making this laughable.
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Gli
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Originally Posted by leprekan
1% on ANY mod is not enough of an advantage to merit the wrecking of the economy. Any mod 1% less than PERFECT is DIRT CHEAP ALREADY. You keep arguing the NEED for that extra 1% when it is only vanity. The VERY RARE times anyone is down to 1hp and lives without a monk saving his/her butt is reaching to the extent of making this laughable.
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sumrtym
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Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
^Not at all the same logic.
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Clawdius_Talonious
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Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
^Not at all the same logic.
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Ghull Ka
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Originally Posted by leprekan
1% on ANY mod is not enough of an advantage to merit the wrecking of the economy. Any mod 1% less than PERFECT is DIRT CHEAP ALREADY. You keep arguing the NEED for that extra 1% when it is only vanity. The VERY RARE times anyone is down to 1hp and lives without a monk saving his/her butt is reaching to the extent of making this laughable.
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sixdartbart
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Originally Posted by Ghull Ka
And what's more, you should all be satisfied with swords that do 15-21 damage, axes that do 6-27 damage and hammers that do 19-34.
That extra point is, ya know, just vanity anyway. I mean, how many times do you miss a kill by only one point? Hardly ever! You yourself say that the times when someone is hit down to 1 point and lives are VERY RARE. |
that is unless your other 7 bloodsuckers come help sumrtym
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Originally Posted by sixdartbart
but seriously I'm pretty sure he was talking about mods not weapon base damage
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Akhilleus
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Originally Posted by Abnaxus
It's liberism against monopoly and incumbent position.
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Clawdius_Talonious
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Originally Posted by sumrtym
Are you talking inherent? Cause 1% (14% vs 15%) on any weapon is MORE than 1 pt dmg. Just pointing that out.
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sixdartbart
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Originally Posted by sumrtym
Are you talking inherent? Cause 1% (14% vs 15%) on any weapon is MORE than 1 pt dmg. Just pointing that out.
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Tommy
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