man you dont understand, we need to know if this update is going to happen or not, I already sold a perfect chaos and a eternal, imagine how wed feel if all those items turned to scrap after.
Its like the HA changes, my friend today said he was depressed and might be quitting GW because of making 6vs6 in HA,his guild is disbanding and everyone quitting.
I think Anet is just screwing with old players...
Is anyone else worried about the new salvage options?
Franco
sixdartbart
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I agree with this. Why do I agree with this? Because I consider this a bug or rather an exploit, which is unfair to most players. People who have these kinds of weapons should have known way beforehand that these wouldn't last forever, like the 20/20 Rockmolder. |
My question is where is the consitancy?
We are all aware of how they handled the issue with the HoD swords which were alot less common than the 20/20 Rockmolders but way more common than they HoD axe/ FFS or the 15% unconditional weapons but yet have done nothing about the vary rare items that do give players an edge over other players.
If any of the items that have been changed/reincorporated why wouldn't all of them be dealt with in the same fashion???
sumrtym
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Before you guys get yourselves too much farther out on a limb with any of your points you should read the chat log from Gaile yesterday http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...php?t=10054375
My impression from this is that they had an idea and didn't think through all of the effects it may have in other aspects of the game but are now "discussing the finer points of it" most likely thanks to discussions like this one so keep in mind that if you have any intention of being listened too and taken seriously it is much more likely to happen when you dont sound like an angry self serving child  |
Evls Pwn
Oh of course, you sit here and speculate about anet while there is a member of anet releasing info. Don't assume you know what you don't know.
ChildeOfMalkav
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as for this line of idiotic thought;
i dont farm, never have, never will...its booring. i was a trader, and enjoyed doing it. seccondly, if by "playing the game" you mean having 17 lvl 20 characters, 9 of which are pvp ready and have beaten BOTH chapters, with all the important elite unlocks, and at least 1 lvl 20 of every single character class in the game, pver 2,500 hours of pve/pvp play logged (the remainder of my time trading/talking) then yeah...i suppose you could say i "play the game." |
First you assume that ANET only made this change because they were pressured into it and you assume that this is a bad idea. AND you assume that just because the masses approve of it that it has to be bad.
That's a lot of assumptions buddy. And oh yeah, keep calling me idiotic. I like knowing that you're pissed because you cant make an argument without name calling.
Evls Pwn
The human race as a whole is idiotic, therefore the masses are idiotic. Some of the most retarded people I've "seen"have been on Gw. As for anet being pressured into it? Nah. I think they thought "hey what a cool idea!" and several months later thought "oh shit, this might screw the game over".
sumrtym
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Oh of course, you sit here and speculate about anet while there is a member of anet releasing info. Don't assume you know what you don't know.
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BTW, talk about getting things wrong. Read what she wrote. It's the exact OPPOSITE of releasing info.
Evls Pwn
I've been at several of her chat sessions ty very much. You sit here and speculate as to the hierarchy at anet but you really don't have a clue.
ChildeOfMalkav
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The human race as a whole is idiotic, therefore the masses are idiotic. Some of the most retarded people I've "seen"have been on Gw. As for anet being pressured into it? Nah. I think they thought "hey what a cool idea!" and several months later thought "oh shit, this might screw the game over".
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Evls Pwn
Oh, I'm not saying I'm judging the idea on what people's reactions are. That would be as you said....idiotic ^_^
Hockster
This will completely screw the weapon market. Which way, I'm not sure. Weapons could either drop to record lows, or everything will go up. That 13% while hexed dwarven axe isn't worth 100K anymore, it's with 100 ecto now that you can change it to a 15^50 instead.
But knowing ANerf, the salvage options will probably only apply to Nightfall items, ("upgraded" storage anyone?), completely screwing 98% of the game population in the ass without even giving a reach around.
But knowing ANerf, the salvage options will probably only apply to Nightfall items, ("upgraded" storage anyone?), completely screwing 98% of the game population in the ass without even giving a reach around.
manitoba1073
ok heres a better idea, since everyone aggrees GW is about skills. lets just have anet remove all mods from all items. best solution yet. put the skill back in the game and remove the so called reliance on mods. mods are to compliment ur skill should never be the other way around. if your build depends on a damn +1 modifier or what ever mod. then u really need to rethink your builds. thats my new solution to this problem. dont like it to bad. 
ofcourse noone will like it so i know its the right decision to be made REMOVE ALL MODS from items in game solves all problems dont you think 
ofcourse noone will like it so i know its the right decision to be made REMOVE ALL MODS from items in game solves all problems dont you think 
Mordakai
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This will completely screw the weapon market. Which way, I'm not sure. Weapons could either drop to record lows, or everything will go up.
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Basically your saying you don't know what will happen, but no matter what happens, it will "screw the weapon market." Well, pardon me for asking, but if you don't know what will happen, how do you know it will screw up anything?
(and NO ONE knows what will happen, we're all speculating here).
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But knowing ANerf, the salvage options will probably only apply to Nightfall items, ("upgraded" storage anyone?), completely screwing 98% of the game population in the ass without even giving a reach around.
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how would that even work? I mean, I assume Inscriptions will either come from salvage kits, or get their own Kit. Either way, there's no real way I can think of to seal off such a change from 2/3 of the current game.
I mean, even if they only allow Inscriptions to salvage in Nightfall, people will still sell inscriptions across Chapters, thus "screwing with" the whole economy. (your words, not mine).
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ok heres a better idea, since everyone aggrees GW is about skills. lets just have anet remove all mods from all items. best solution yet. put the skill back in the game and remove the so called reliance on mods. mods are to compliment ur skill should never be the other way around. if your build depends on a damn +1 modifier or what ever mod. then u really need to rethink your builds. thats my new solution to this problem. dont like it to bad.
ofcourse noone will like it so i know its the right decision to be made REMOVE ALL MODS from items in game solves all problems dont you think |
Seriously, though, you're on the right track. Anet needs to remove all imperfect mods. They're worthless and a waste of time, especially if these Inscriptions work the way we think they will.
manitoba1073
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Sarcasm for the loss?
Seriously, though, you're on the right track. Anet needs to remove all imperfect mods. They're worthless and a waste of time, especially if these Inscriptions work the way we think they will. |
remember ITS GUILD WARS not MOD WARS games supposed to rely on skills used not mods used. felt i had to say that for all those that try to use it as ITS GUILD WARS NOT FARM WARS OR SELL WARS
BoredJoe
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no sarcasm intended with what i said. all mods should be removed from the game PERIOD. if you are one of those that feels your build depends on a mod and cant be used without then truelly im sorry for you. it would settle everything.
remember ITS GUILD WARS not MOD WARS games supposed to rely on skills used not mods used. felt i had to say that for all those that try to use it as ITS GUILD WARS NOT FARM WARS OR SELL WARS |
manitoba1073
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While they're at it why not remove all the different hairstyles, faces and skins from the game after all its Guild Wars not Fashion Wars. Removing the different environments and amount of colour would be a step in the right direction too.
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arcanemacabre
Hey, luckily nothing is being removed, so all your points are invalid. This is about a feature that is being *added* so as to make more weapon mod combinations and overall weapon choices. This is all about options.
Options make an excellent addition to determine skill levels of players. Obviously, I wouldn't be nearly as effective with a vanilla wand compared to someone with +5 energy and 20% recharge, no matter skill levels. Having the option to go with either, or even numerous other combinations of effects, can broaden my strategies, thus allow for a greater difference in skill levels.
Then again, what do I know?
Options make an excellent addition to determine skill levels of players. Obviously, I wouldn't be nearly as effective with a vanilla wand compared to someone with +5 energy and 20% recharge, no matter skill levels. Having the option to go with either, or even numerous other combinations of effects, can broaden my strategies, thus allow for a greater difference in skill levels.
Then again, what do I know?
=HT=Ingram
About the disbanding Guilds and People leaving... considering a new chapter is about to release and its hard to keep even Prophecies on the shelf in my store, well... I'm not worried. They are opening up so many new markets a few hundred thousand leaving is going to be their loss, not ours... I can sit back and be the grand generation if I have to. lol
The really cool thing about GW is that if they do leave and come back in say a year. guess what? Everything will be there waiting for them again... unlike oh so many other MMOs that will remain nameless... so whatever blows your skirt up. If you want to shelve your game over a silly evolution of the game, well that's your prerogative.
I intend to play it for as long as possible as often as possible, cause I enjoy playing the game. not farming it or selling crap that is worthless anyway... I'm not in it for a job, I have a job and a life. I'm in it to escape that garbage. I think that is the case for the majority of GW residents. And With the influx of new people and new markets every few months, well... Everything is looking fine to me...
buh bye now...
Ingram of Haz
The really cool thing about GW is that if they do leave and come back in say a year. guess what? Everything will be there waiting for them again... unlike oh so many other MMOs that will remain nameless... so whatever blows your skirt up. If you want to shelve your game over a silly evolution of the game, well that's your prerogative.
I intend to play it for as long as possible as often as possible, cause I enjoy playing the game. not farming it or selling crap that is worthless anyway... I'm not in it for a job, I have a job and a life. I'm in it to escape that garbage. I think that is the case for the majority of GW residents. And With the influx of new people and new markets every few months, well... Everything is looking fine to me...
buh bye now...
Ingram of Haz
Roshi_ikkyu
I like seeing the posts about "Boo hoo, I'm quiting; they nerfed (Insert latest change here). Good bye guild wars"
1 less idiot in the game! Every time a Emo quits a black dye drops. :P
Personally I'm waiting to be proven right inscriptions are not inherent mods!
1 less idiot in the game! Every time a Emo quits a black dye drops. :P
Personally I'm waiting to be proven right inscriptions are not inherent mods!
manitoba1073
ive never said nothing about quiting, and i wasnt whinning i was warning as it will have no effect on me whats so ever. however it will have alot of effect on alot of my friends that do play.
Gli
Of course it will affect almost everyone. That's the idea behind changes. 
Evls Pwn
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Wow... I don't even know what to say!
Basically your saying you don't know what will happen, but no matter what happens, it will "screw the weapon market." Well, pardon me for asking, but if you don't know what will happen, how do you know it will screw up anything? (and NO ONE knows what will happen, we're all speculating here). Now, here's an interesting point I actually thought about... how would that even work? I mean, I assume Inscriptions will either come from salvage kits, or get their own Kit. Either way, there's no real way I can think of to seal off such a change from 2/3 of the current game. I mean, even if they only allow Inscriptions to salvage in Nightfall, people will still sell inscriptions across Chapters, thus "screwing with" the whole economy. (your words, not mine). Sarcasm for the loss? Seriously, though, you're on the right track. Anet needs to remove all imperfect mods. They're worthless and a waste of time, especially if these Inscriptions work the way we think they will. |
Also, when some1 says that the price of weapons could shoot up, or the price of inscriptions could shoot up, I don't consider that as having no clue whats gonna happen. Try reading his entire post.
arcanemacabre
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Hell, why don't we take out pve if its such a hassel to have to work for items.
Also, when some1 says that the price of weapons could shoot up, or the price of inscriptions could shoot up, I don't consider that as having no clue whats gonna happen. Try reading his entire post. |
Yeah, I'm sure you are. Funny stuff.
On a lighter note: I'm sure no one knows what affect this is going to have on the market/economy. Not even a clue. Wanna know why? Because we don't even know how it's going to work yet! *gasp!* Imagine that!
Anyone stating they "know" what's going to happen is simply talking out of their nether-region. Now that's a fact.
shmegma
I don't guess anyone "knows" what is going to happen, but we can make an educated guess. I doubt inscriptions would break the game, but on the other hand I don't see enough gold sinks to balance some of this stuff out. If nobody had 100k - none of these skins would sell for 100k++. Perhaps the advent of inscriptions will drive those skin prices down, but my assumption is that the focus will change over to something else... Because Anet prints its own e-money - inflation is just going to be a fact of life
Hybrid Theory
one way to save it a bit is to make the modded items a different color other than gold keeping the gold items still the leetest
Hybrid Theory
i think mod merchants is a pretty bad idea too
Tommy
auction house is much more needed.. we need a quicker and better way than spammining in town to sell items or use guru forum.. not everyone knows guru.. and you can't keep your thread up front all the time.
Gli
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i think mod merchants is a pretty bad idea too
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auction house is much more needed.. we need a quicker and better way than spammining in town to sell items or use guru forum.. not everyone knows guru.. and you can't keep your thread up front all the time.
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The Abbott
there could still be an auction house for rare skins
Akhilleus
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And oh yeah, keep calling me idiotic. I like knowing that you're pissed because you cant make an argument without name calling.
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if the term "idiot" isnt fitting here, i dont know when it is.
Mordakai
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i called you an idiot because YOU made an assumption about MY style of playing without knowing ONE THING about me. you and i have (to my knowledge) never spoken in game, never played in-game, and yet you seem to know so much about how i spend my time in guildwars...interesting.
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Akhilleus, if that's your criteria for being an idiot, you should call yourself one. You've labled casual players as "whiny", and "lazy". But you don't know us, so how can you make such assumptions?
Winx.ZN
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Attention, Pot! Not just the kettle is black!
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Im saving that one
sumrtym
Who here saw the Soutpark episode on WoW the other night? Every trader here talking about color change / no mod trader / how to protect my 100k +xx ecto trades, etc., I bet could see themselves in that episode.
"But how do you kill that which has no life?" <talking about someone who plays the game 24 hrs a day and wants to ruin it for all others>
I think ANET has the solution. LOL
"But how do you kill that which has no life?" <talking about someone who plays the game 24 hrs a day and wants to ruin it for all others>
I think ANET has the solution. LOL
Franco
mmm so sending away HA people with the 6vs6 and high end sellers with the inscription mods is the best way to welcome nighfall....
Lets kick old players, we get new ones with the new game anyway.
Good game anet.
Lets kick old players, we get new ones with the new game anyway.
Good game anet.
sumrtym
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mmm so sending away HA people with the 6vs6 and high end sellers with the inscription mods is the best way to welcome nighfall....
Lets kick old players, we get new ones with the new game anyway. Good game anet. |
What you mean to say is, don't ruin my monopoly on people that have at most a couple hours to play a night.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Franco
Lets kick the old [elitists], we get new ones with the new game anyway.
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(I've been playing GW since July 2005, and Anet's not kicking me!)
twighlightwordzhu
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some people will pay any price for style over functionality?
now maybe the chestrunners will start getting banned. |
ur first state ment completely tru
but how can chest running be made illegal its not violating nething that i see ne ways and chest running is very helpful when ur in a financial pinch
im still not understanding why the guy who started this thread is so worried
i personally think that the economy of this game is alright. ne ways if they lower the prices of the items then they may have to lower the prices of all the other stuff including NPC sales
cross ur fingers i wont have to save up 75k for kurz armor
Franco
Im not a elitist .... my job in real life is selling stuff... I have fun selling in game lol.
sumrtym
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Im not a elitist .... my job in real life is selling stuff... I have fun selling in game lol.
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Phoenix Ex
Can we give this topic a rest already? We STILL have absolutely no idea what this new inscription thing really is. If they really going to just implement it without any consolation for the time and effort people spent, then just let them, let them repeat the Diablo 2 scenario, its not like this is the only game on Earth anyways.