Is anyone else worried about the new salvage options?

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Clawdius_Talonious
Clawdius_Talonious
Krytan Explorer
#621
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Originally Posted by Tommy
and you certainly see them more than once a while in a blue moon.
Sorry, I mean to say that one person, in a gameplay time of hunting, isn't going to often see one. I myself have logged nearly 3000 hours (6 to go) and I haven't stumbled across very many, however I don't go chest hunting, Treasure Hunter isn't a title I am after. So I'm not talking about the player who sits and does chest runs all day and has what I want for sale, I'm talking about your average player.

I will admit that I lean towards the PVP aspects of the game whenever possible, so while as few of my hours as I can spend on PVE as I can, I've still probably done over 1000 hours of the various PVE. When I do open chests I often give the items away to new/low level characters that could use them, I've given away everything from req 9 15-5e Gothic Swords to -2 stance Magma shields. I don't see a need to accumulate a vast hoard of virtual wealth so I try to pass it along whenever I can. And although I never get mentioned in the Scribe for random acts of kindness, I've always given low/new characters good gear. Why? Well for one I always do it with my monk Santa Claws, and for two... Though some people may know enough that they turned around and sold them, but I would rather see a new player get a really nice item and put it to use than to see it go to some collector or some rich person with a hankering for a magma shield.

Maybe I'm an oddball, giving away things that could make me so much gold. Then again, I'd rather be odd and generous than sit atop a pile of gold so high it seperated me from the gameplay that I have come to enjoy so much over the last 17 months.
Phaern Majes
Phaern Majes
Desert Nomad
#622
I don't really see it being this big of an issue. I mean if you just use a superior/expert salvage to get the mod, then nobody is going to pay 100k for it. And even if you have to buy the mod from a trader for lets say 10k, then nobody is going to pay you more for the mod. Just saying when it comes down to it, I don't think its going to be that big of a deal. People will just sell their weapons based on the other mods on them and the skins rather than the 15% ^ 50 or w/e.
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Tommy
Jungle Guide
#623
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Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious
Sorry, I mean to say that one person, in a gameplay time of hunting, isn't going to often see one. I myself have logged nearly 3000 hours (6 to go) and I haven't stumbled across very many, however I don't go chest hunting, Treasure Hunter isn't a title I am after. So I'm not talking about the player who sits and does chest runs all day and has what I want for sale, I'm talking about your average player.

I will admit that I lean towards the PVP aspects of the game whenever possible, so while as few of my hours as I can spend on PVE as I can, I've still probably done over 1000 hours of the various PVE. When I do open chests I often give the items away to new/low level characters that could use them, I've given away everything from req 9 15-5e Gothic Swords to -2 stance Magma shields. I don't see a need to accumulate a vast hoard of virtual wealth so I try to pass it along whenever I can. And although I never get mentioned in the Scribe for random acts of kindness, I've always given low/new characters good gear. Why? Well for one I always do it with my monk Santa Claws, and for two... Though some people may know enough that they turned around and sold them, but I would rather see a new player get a really nice item and put it to use than to see it go to some collector or some rich person with a hankering for a magma shield.

Maybe I'm an oddball, giving away things that could make me so much gold. Then again, I'd rather be odd and generous than sit atop a pile of gold so high it seperated me from the gameplay that I have come to enjoy so much over the last 17 months.
dont worry i am odder than you are i sold req8 15% in stance mursarr hornbow, Req8 15^50 20/20 HP+30 Longsword, 20/10 Holy staves, Magmas shield hp25 dam-2 in stance and alot more to merchants. Basically i sell w/e not worth wasting my time selling and nobody in my guild wants it to merchants. yeah i dont pvp, i will never ever enjoy pvp, nothing wrong with it, it is just not my cup of tea. I never do chest run for money , i do it for title. you lose money in the long run in chest run. chest runs dont make you the best money. I am bad guy! i dont give away free items to anyone<except my guidies who dont really play at all>.you want it you have to work for it.
Mordakai
Mordakai
Grotto Attendant
#624
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Originally Posted by Cybah
exactly my words. you all dont wanna work for it.

Slight correction...

Anet apparently doesn't want us to work for it, which is fine by me.



It's funny that people for Inscriptions are singled out at being "complainers"... when we are actually not complaining. We are praising Anet for something that should have been available from the beginning.

People against Inscriptions are the complainers, because they took a chance on speculation, and lost.

And don't buy this "no one will afford 15k armor anymore". Uh, who cares? It's supposed to be an achievement to get expensive armor, not a frickin' lottery where someone ends up with a 100k weapon to pay for everything!

As for the treasure hunter title: guess what! It's made just for people like leprekan.

Talk about "vanity" items, I can think of nothing more vain than a "Treasure Hunter" title! It's certainly not there for casual players...

(but for those wondering what you'll do now: there's your answer! And, according to the logic "things are only valuable when they're impossible to get", this title should be even better to get when the prices drop! Talk about the ultimate status symbol...)
DeathByAmor
DeathByAmor
Banned
#625
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Originally Posted by unienaule
Since when are rich people elitist? As far as I know, elitists are people who won't talk to you because they think they're better than you are, and generally act like jerks to anyone they don't know... and that's certainly not what any of the rich people in here have been doing. I have yet to see "OMG I HAVE MILionS OF ECtoS STFU." So, keep your terms right and don't classify people as things they're not.
That is exactly what leprekan was doing. I hope that noone else feels the need to act like jerks. If you are angry about this update focus your anger on those parties responsible. I assure you "whiny" poor people did not bring about this update. This is more likely ANet's way of making it easier for people to kit out their heros with nice items. The fact that you can mod out rare skins is just a side effect. One that we will get over...
leprekan
leprekan
Wilds Pathfinder
#626
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Originally Posted by DeathByAmor
That is exactly what leprekan was doing. I hope that noone else feels the need to act like jerks. If you are angry about this update focus your anger on those parties responsible. I assure you "whiny" poor people did not bring about this update. This is more likely ANet's way of making it easier for people to kit out their heros with nice items. The fact that you can mod out rare skins is just a side effect. One that we will get over...
Death,

I don't "act like a jerk" to people I don't know. However I also know BS when I see it and often will comment upon it. Sorry if a few of your posts fell into that category. The upside to your not liking me is at least now you have been educated enough to stop with the sadly misinformed Ebay tangent you were on (or did you edit those posts.

Most of the changes are brought about by "whiny" forum posts. Please feel free to show me how they have had such a positive impact on the GW economy. The more the economy is tanked the harder it will be for the casual player to get higher end armor and titles. Those that are saying who cares ... the same people demanding cheap perfect weapons now will care with time. Enter a whole new set of whine threads over those items 3 months down the road.
DeathByAmor
DeathByAmor
Banned
#627
Can a mod please tell me why the stickied Poll had the link removed? That was a legitimate poll.
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tenryo
Frost Gate Guardian
#628
All I can say is.... reduce the casting cost of gale back to 5e and I'll shut up about all of this :P
leprekan
leprekan
Wilds Pathfinder
#629
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Originally Posted by tenryo
All I can say is.... reduce the casting cost of gale back to 5e and I'll shut up about all of this :P
LOL I miss gale too
Clawdius_Talonious
Clawdius_Talonious
Krytan Explorer
#630
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathByAmor
Can a mod please tell me why the stickied Poll had the link removed? That was a legitimate poll.
That HAS to be some sort of mistake... I mean, why would they sticky and close it and remove the link to the poll? I understand they deleted the discourse present in that thread, but why would they sticky a poll that has no poll?
Mordakai
Mordakai
Grotto Attendant
#631
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Originally Posted by leprekan
Death,

I don't "act like a jerk" to people I don't know. However I also know BS when I see it and often will comment upon it. Sorry if a few of your posts fell into that category. The upside to your not liking me is at least now you have been educated enough to stop with the sadly misinformed Ebay tangent you were on (or did you edit those posts.

Most of the changes are brought about by "whiny" forum posts. Please feel free to show me how they have had such a positive impact on the GW economy. The more the economy is tanked the harder it will be for the casual player to get higher end armor and titles. Those that are saying who cares ... the same people demanding cheap perfect weapons now will care with time. Enter a whole new set of whine threads over those items 3 months down the road.
leprekan: 15k armor and FoW requirements have not changed since release!

Anet is NOT going to change those, because they have absolutely no effect on the game.

Prices set by traders change all the time due to drop rates, demand, etc.

This is just another change, for the better, IMO.
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Crotalus
Frost Gate Guardian
#632
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathByAmor
Can a mod please tell me why the stickied Poll had the link removed? That was a legitimate poll.
Just post the link in here. Maybe they will delete the link and lock this topic.
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sumrtym
Frost Gate Guardian
#633
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Originally Posted by Tommy
just put a WTB thread and offer 20 million for them. sure someone will find it for you.
Thks for proving my point. You can't point to any, and if you could, it would be a $20 million dollar item for ONE thing I want.

If that doesn't prove the need for inherent mod salvage, I don't know what does.
DeathByAmor
DeathByAmor
Banned
#634
Quote:
Originally Posted by leprekan
Death,

I don't "act like a jerk" to people I don't know. However I also know BS when I see it and often will comment upon it. Sorry if a few of your posts fell into that category. The upside to your not liking me is at least now you have been educated enough to stop with the sadly misinformed Ebay tangent you were on (or did you edit those posts.

Most of the changes are brought about by "whiny" forum posts. Please feel free to show me how they have had such a positive impact on the GW economy. The more the economy is tanked the harder it will be for the casual player to get higher end armor and titles. Those that are saying who cares ... the same people demanding cheap perfect weapons now will care with time. Enter a whole new set of whine threads over those items 3 months down the road.
Misinformed Ebay tangent? That is still a very valid reason to implement this update. If it were not for the fact that the heros are being added I would still stand by that. Ebayers and Korean/Chinese Farmers are one of THE worst elements in this game. They single handedly can influence the GW economy. If ANet releases an update that discourages Ebay farmers from leeching off the GW community you will see an enormous change in the game. That is a promise.

As far as your comments on the high end armor and titles I am all for that. Those are the items that ANet wants to actually mean something. Those are supposed to be the creme de la creme of this game...not the weapons.

Who is whining now? I ask that not as some jab in your side, but if you take your logic into this equation then you have to ask yourself...should ANet react to me complaining about this possible update? Should ANet listen to a small group of "more experienced" players or should they listen to their larger base which is mostly casuals?
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Phoenix Ex
Lion's Arch Merchant
#636
You know, not that I thought about how people says that options is a good thing, its true. GW is awfully lacking in options for the hardcore players, and that's why alot of them are holding on to one of the few options(weapon skins) that are left as an accomplishment.

I mean there's 15k armor, which is EASY to get, then all of a suddent its fow armor which is over one million. Where's the middle of the road 200k armor, or the above average 600k armor.

Another gripe is that the title system is ridiculously obscure. Who actually goes around looking at other people's accomplishment? What we need is emote similar to the PvP rank ones with each of the harder titles. The "congradulating yourself" only works for so long.

There's also should be some unique weapons skins separate from the economy but tied to other game accomplishment (Certain HARD quests, maybe linked to titles, maybe finishing ALL quests, etc.)

I still believe an auction house would still be a better options in comparison to inscriptions, because it'll keep the adventuring and item hunting aspect in the game for the more hardcord players, while increasing the competition between sellers so that prices will lower to a more accepatble level (yes, I do find 100k+ecto for farmable items ridiculous) for the casual players.
leprekan
leprekan
Wilds Pathfinder
#637
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
leprekan: 15k armor and FoW requirements have not changed since release!

Anet is NOT going to change those, because they have absolutely no effect on the game.

Prices set by traders change all the time due to drop rates, demand, etc.

This is just another change, for the better, IMO.
Mord,

Pleaseeeeeeeeeee low req vanity skins are NO different than vanity armor and titles. Yet you keep trying to act like they are.

Anet could make this easier on your upgrades you seem to think should be cheap ... by putting a trader in for them and letting supply and demand control the price. However your argument that you should be able to get 30 pommels etc for next to nothing when a 29 does same job is rather hard to choke down. The 1hp is vanity.
Two April Mornings
Two April Mornings
No Luck No Time No Money
#638
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex
You know, not that I thought about how people says that options is a good thing, its true. GW is awfully lacking in options for the hardcore players, and that's why alot of them are holding on to one of the few options(weapon skins) that are left as an accomplishment.
That's what I am holding on to, except, this change will upset that, sadly enough, if it is implemented.

Making the salvage of inherent mods and the ability to add them to weapons unoticibly would have the same psychological effect to weapons collectors and hardcore players that lowering rank 12 to 1000 fame would have to hardcore HA players.
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sumrtym
Frost Gate Guardian
#639
Now THAT is a good idea. Not only inherent mod salvages, but a prefix/suffix/inherent mod trader. I like it.
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Tommy
Jungle Guide
#640
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Originally Posted by leprekan
Mord,

Pleaseeeeeeeeeee low req vanity skins are NO different than vanity armor and titles. Yet you keep trying to act like they are.

Anet could make this easier on your upgrades you seem to think should be cheap ... by putting a trader in for them and letting supply and demand control the price. However your argument that you should be able to get 30 pommels etc for next to nothing when a 29 does same job is rather hard to choke down. The 1hp is vanity.
traders can't really help with supply and demand.. what if the rich traders buy up everything from traders? price will certainly go up.