Dear Anet: Make Razah's PvE aquisition REASONABLE.........

/signed

I've been trying to get that hero for almost 2 weeks now, with no success. Either there's no place for me in d team cause they don't want an ele or the team will agro all the mobs thinking they can beat them. Pls A-Net make it easier

Gaile, I know you are around, please help us =(

/crymore

But ill /sign since Anet reduced heros in HA ill help out the PvEers.

/not signed

no no no no, plz. that hero is one of the few wery desirable things to get in the game that still is hard to get!!!!!!!!!!!

Im so tired of Anet nerfing every part of the game someone finds to hard, FoW armor is not that desirable (attlest not for me) because the medeval armors looks cooler..... A few hard to get greens, but you can always buy them after a lot of UW farming.....

Sereusly it's the only thing you really have to work for in this game, Im not shure if the crystals are cuztimised quest items or not, but they should be so you cant Ebay them.

(on a side note, I dont got the RT hero yet, but i dont find that a reason to make it easyer, I love the challenge and a really good reason to acomplish it)

The fact that the reward for once is not just cosmetic, is a greate idea , com on folks, it's not giving you a greate advantage in anything PvE (The rt is usaly not the most desirable teammember.....), and for PvP he's easy to unlock.

wow a PvE'er who doesnt want everything handed to him like a xmas gift .

Are you drunk by any chance ?

I'd like to bring a ritualist hero along sometimes maybe if there are no others in a given district, and considering there is an easily accessible hero for EVERY OTHER PROFESSION, it makes sense to have an EASILY ACCESSIBLE RIT HERO. So to all you shitheads who think its "whining" or "complaining" or "bitching", go try DoA for yourself. Stop being retards.

/signed

either make him easier to get or make him better like he could be like the graven monoliths that can change form and professions?? i dunno but it would be cool

Since most groups ignore the Assassin, Mesmer, Dervish and Paragon classes (ELONA) for the DOA. It only seems resonable to provide a Ritualist HERO from Cantha for these people. Razah can be where and what he is but really ANET don't make this that complicated and frustrate your main player base.

There are good Leet players out there that use uncommon classes. They should not be excluded of a Ritualist character just because of some PUG envy in DOA.




/signed

I wonder if anyone at anet read this yet......

Yeah it is kinda silly so i'm gonna /sign it. It wouldn't be so bad if it was razah + somthing else like a coffer of whispers or some of your gemstones back.

But even after Anet changed the Drop rate on the gemstones titain stones are still woth in excess of 100k like hell can the regular player afford that! The other stones have deworthed in value whitch puts it into line with what sane pepole can possable afford but not titain stones. And don't say play DoA and get those stones to lower there price because the chance of me getting a PuG whitch lasts longer than 5 seconds is practically nil... And not all of us are in a guild whitch has 200 elite pve players with an assortment of different charictars into the endgame.

It's kinda funny how when pvp people call out for balance Anet jumps all over it and nerfs skills in 3-5days, but when pve people have a complaint its mostly ignored.

Ballance: 14 Heros easily obtained vs 1 Hero Master difficulty quest reward.......

Well, Gaile confirmed Razah IS being altered........I wonder if this is silent torture X_X

I don't have Razaa, but I think it is fair that he is only available from the DOA. He was added after the initial release, and it only makes sense that he is in the addition of DOA.
Maybe I'm way off, but thats my opinion.

You're really the first person to have expressed that point of view.

/signed

There is nothing special about him, why make him so much harder to get than the rest...

If there was something special about him (eg. can change into any professian) then yes, he should be as hard as he is.

We all need our skill to be challenged, but not in a way that if we fail, we miss out on progressing our skills further. (Not stated in quite the right way for this, but meh ^-^)

EDIT: Changed some "it"s into "he"s

/notsigned

FoW armor is not functionally better than any other armor.
UW Spider is not functionally better than any other pet.
A Ritualist is not functionally better than any other profession.
Titles are not functioanally better than not having them (some exceptions obviouslly, but they do not spoil gameplay).

What is functionally not better is not necessary in order to be functionally competitive in this game.

Besides, getting 1 of each gemstone is NOTHING compared to beating Mallyx.

This has to be one of the most self-contradicting posts I have ever seen. You agree that FoW armour is not special, but you don't seem to notice that there IS NO OTHER RITUALIST HERO, and as such he does function better than any other hero of his category (i.e. rit hero).

There is no good reason for Razah to be so difficult to obtian, as he is that only ritualist hero in the game. Some people may have a build planned for PvE that would be amazing if it had a ritualist hero, but unfortunately, they can't get it until they finish Nigthfall, and then either pay a huge amount, or spend a lot of time, just to get the one hero.

Hey.
Atleast we have a Ritualist hero.

Don't complain about it; Just because he's difficult to get doesn't mean its not worth it. Heck, a Ritualist has its uses, and they can be a very powerful ally. But he is also a great reward for beating one of the hardest missons in the game.

Also, do remember, he was a GIFT from A-net.

/notsigned

Would you like it if someone "gave" you a gift (which was supposed to be something you got before) and then instead of giving you it, told you that first you need to swim across the Atlantic Ocean to get it?

Razah was not a "gift", he is/was something that should have been in the game when Nighfall was released (he's in the manual after all).

At least we have fingers to type /sarcasm.

I'm still concerned that next chapter when they continue the trend of adding in 2 new professions that they'll also continue the trend of adding 1 hero per expansion... Meaning that people are going to cry about not having a profession just as they did with not having a ritualist. I also foresee many things in the future of how this could make the next chapter suck, especially since we know who's making it...

I get your point. I just did not sign this because it's not Razah that needs a change, the solution would be the addition of another Ritualist hero, and with a background as of the other heroes not from The Mists. Razah is that hard to get because of its background and its appearance. But like pets and everything else I've mentioned, there isn't a much cheaper functional solution for a ritualist if you're not willing to play with other people. No Ritualist henchman and just one Ritualist hero. It would settle all these discussions without making people who already have unlocked Razah feel like suiciding for having worked hard or paid a lot for getting the Gemstones for unlocking Razah in PvE.

They should add a Tengu ritualist hero.

/me runs away

/notsigned

there are many other heroes you can use, ritualists arent that special. if you think they are, if you have a good build for them and/or want to be different, maybe you should try a little bit harder to obtain him.

Part of the problem is once he is attained, there is no point in using him unless you are farming with him or hero battles with your PVE character. He is a trophy right now, and some people would like an actual ritualist hero to play the game through with.
Not everyone has to like ritualists, but it's important to realize that some people like em!

If Razah was the variable profession the manual eluded to, then I'd have no qualms about going through the game and elite zones to get him. Then he'd be worth it. Especially if he were a Tengu.

/signed

Yeah.. why. Just why. Does anet have something against ritualists? If not this suggestion, then add another ritualist hero somewhere else in the game.

I've been thinking about why and I got the impression that they were tight on time. It was a busy 4th quarter for the dev team. The ritualist model was probably intended for an actual ritualist to be acquired via quest in factions, but due to time constraints was not added. Since DOA appeared to use recycled skins for end weapons, I'm guessing they also had to finish up quickly to get DOA released in order to get the Wintersday update tested and released.
I'm guessing that the variable profession hero could not be finished on time and they had a ritualist hero unused and took advantage of it.
If that was the case, I don't blame them, they did manage to get a lot done in such a short amount of time this quarter.

'Half' of the Ritualist skills don't work in the hands of AI. It has no concept of dropping item spells for their effect (nor can you tell them to do so), nor concept of placement of spirits (this in particular makes Destruction not terribly useful).

NOTE: Despite these, it'd still be nice to be able to GET a ritualist hero.

This thread has got a little to quiet. Besides, there's a lot of good information in it that some of the forum newcomers should probably see.

Gaile said that A.net are looking into it...

This level of challenge would be justified if he was the variable-profession hero Anet promised us in the publicity and manual for the game (hmm... vaporware promises? never!). However it is NOT worthwhile for some crappy hero who NF-only buyers won't even be able to use properly!

/signed.

I don't mind a good challenge, but I was really disappointed to get all the way through Nightfall and never have a ritualist hero to mess with, only to find I'd have to slave over the Domain of Anguish to get one. Alternatively, I'd be okay with them adding a seperate Ritualist hero somewhere else and leaving Razah as he is. Either way, ANet didn't do this right the first time and it ought to be addressed.

Agreed, too, that it's a Factions profession. Its acquisition didn't belong in Nightfall.

/agreed and signed (not sure if I signed this way earlier, but signed again!)

/SIGNED

This would be a fun hero to play with.

/signed

I want him on all of my characters (including the not wanted ones, Assassins and the like) without paying an outrageous sum of money for the gemstones.

/signed. I'm too busy Abing to get this guy, but it would be nice to have on my pve chars. I shouldnt have to become one of the FoW/UW/DoA people just to get a rit hero...should i?

I would so love Razah in my team...
I would so dislike spending idiotic amounts of money on it, or grind stones for hours on end...
I would not mind a "different" Rit hero (To keep Razah elite to those who spend money on it..)
I would appreciated if Anet gave us something they promised, but then again, Anet does spoil us in almost every other possible way..

Slightly off topic...

but I hope they put armour very similair to Razah's in the next chapter, he looks so bad ass!

Anet is trying to implement Grinding in NF (something they promise they will never ever ever do before Prophecies). Sunspear Rank required, Lightbringer for advanced skills (most people just HAVE TO GET IT), etc. etc.
Next thing you know, you're going to get slow leveling in 4th campaign, and I mean about 3x slower than Prophecies.

I am curious if we were even suppose to get Razah.At least the majority of people.



[Dev Update]: Domain of Anguish

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We appreciate the feedback that we've been receiving from players about their experiences in the Domain of Anguish. We definitely intend that the rewards for exceptional accomplishments, such as those in the DoA, should be suitable. Based on feedback and our own assessments, the design team has decided to make the following changes to the DoA:
Double the rate of drops of gemstones throughout all four regions of the Domain of Anguish. This is beyond the upcoming special weekend drop rate increase. The rate of gemstone drop will double on a permanent basis.
Improve the quantity of some of the items obtained from the Coffer of Whispers. Now, it's important to note that the Coffer of Whispers is a bit of a game of chance, much like the locked chests throughout the game world. Therefore, there will be a wide variance in the items that you receive. Sometimes you'll feel like you've hit the jackpot; other times you'll find you have gotten a good item, but not a great one. We want to assure that you receive those occasional "jackpots" and that you get decent quantities of the good items in other occasions, so that you are properly rewarded for your interactions with the CoW. (Gotta love the new acronyms: I thought DoA was good, but CoW? Tasty! )
Adjust the cost of the Armbrace of Truth to be more reasonable. Instead of 25 gems of each type, the cost will be 15 gems of each type.
It's important to note that these areas are repeatable, which answers a question that has been asked a few times. The objective is that players who brave the DoA and succeed will be sure to get valuable items and goods. If players are able to succeed multiple times, their rewards will naturally increase. The improved system will assure that there is a system of "just rewards." The designers hope to have the changes tested and rolled into the game in the near future. Please don't hold me to this -- testing continues -- but this could be in the game by tomorrow, and is sure to be in the game within the week.

We are going to continue to monitor the Domain of Anguish. We want this to be the high-end are of the game, of course, and to retain its specialness and its challenge. It's an Elite area, obviously, and in truth we cannot say that it's intended even for the majority of players. But we certainly intend for it, while challenging, to also be a lot of fun! Please continue to share your thoughts and we'll be reading!
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Gaile Gray

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10089724

There was a post by Gaile a few weeks back saying that they were looking at Razah's PvE aquisition. Nothing since then, but they somehow realized that the majority of PvE players (the ones that DoA apparently was NOT designed for) actually wanted to gain Razah.