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Sea Edge

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Black Eagles [BEG]

W/Me

21 Mar 2007 at 09:59 - 641

Seriously, what is the point in a PVE chapter or playing PVE anymore when you know it's impossible to migrate characters to GW2?
So GW2 happens hundreds years after GW1, thus GW1 characters should be dead. It's a bad argument. Come on! Type /deaths ingame and see oh no they've already died hundreds / thousands times.
Ok, GW2 will be a totally different game than GW1 and if want to play GW2 i have to start it from scratch. In that case i think twice what that game will be, not in 2008, but now.

At least less load on EU servers.

The Gewch

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

CDXX The Four Twentieth Infantry

E/Me

21 Mar 2007 at 09:59 - 642

Just on a side note to all "Grinding" issues. Hardcore players spend lots of time advancing in different ways. Wouldn't these be considered grinding..

-Working your @$$ of for weeks/months to get KoBD
-Farming Bosses for green Drops
-Chest running(title 4 at the lowest)
-DoA(dual-quad runs)..or even pugging a single at times for that matter
-Any other multiple hour activity

All these things can take hours of play everyday. Most people don't have but a few hours a night to play if they have a job. I myself would consider these things "Grinding". The word doesn't only apply to Lvl'ing a character.

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:01 - 643

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undressed

You fail.

ArenaNET defines what GW is and if it'll be a WoW-clone, then so be it. It's a risk they are ready to take.

People who can't get over a game, cannot make decisions, are not willing to adapt (leave or play, don't moan) and naively believe they can make their lifetime look less wasted by transferring titles, fow-armour, eye-candy, items etc., are immature.

Immature or just pissed off that ANet would change the game you've been regularly playing for ~ 2 years to something like WoW?

I've read a bit more of whats been posted and I'm understanding that it's more like: Buy CH2 and play a "GW" game (that's different) or buy a new expansion for the GW you play now. I guess I'll take comfort in knowing that most people will choose part b).

Pfft, also. You're talking about fow armour and eye candy now? I hope you enjoy griding for your tier5 axe and your epic flying mount, sir.

But yeah, you're right. I'm not ANet, and what I think, aswell as everybody here, doesn't matter. I guess I can look on the bright side, if all goes bad at least GW won't interfere with my final years at school.

Thanks,
~Rhanoct

Undressed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Reich

none

W/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:02 - 644

With making "jumping, swimming etc." possible they obviously don't add code to the current existing engine for it would not competitive enough in 2009 and right now is flawed to a degree (bridge trapping ftl).

I expect to see a totally new engine, rewritten from scratch, with DX10 content, yet however manageable enough for lower-class computers but less eye-candy.

Maybe Mrs.Gray can reveal more about the technical aspects?

gohanssj2

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

Born With Hope

A/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:02 - 645

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krum4o

I bought this game on the 6 month promise. On the fact that there would not be any people in the ouside world other then party members. On the llvl 20 balance. On the fact that it was marketed as a game that depends on skill not grind. Other online games were not like this and it is the reason why I never bothered playing them. And now all of that has been scrapped for a Wow clone. Or better put for a common online rpg. This was my favourite game for the pvp and pve both. RIP guild wars

The last "expansion" reminds me of Sorrows Furnace, except we have to pay for it.

What I see happening in the future is the following. All the children, all the less skilled players will be thrilled about the cute asura, and their lvl 100 characters. The more Pvp oriented players will leave. My self included eventhough I play both, pve more recently.

On the attempt to compete with with Wow. I honestly dont think there is a chance. In 2 years time they will be way ahead with content. Also there is a reason why Wow is so popular. Warcraft was already an established franchise. So no matter what they do they will always be ahead.

Anyway there is a lot I can say but Ill end it off here. My opinion is that this was a bad move.

couldent agree with you more

zhai

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Poland

The Witchers

R/Me

21 Mar 2007 at 10:03 - 646

Hope ArenaNet will reward fansites' stuff members for their work and will invite them to take part in early beta tests...

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:05 - 647

Lets face facts, people are and always have been afraid of change.

Myself included, however, I do think given the time frame that the change is do and will be a good thing overall.

While I will miss my Fow Warrior and his plethora of cool weapons the chance to explore a new world while interacting live with large numbers of people is something I will look forward to.

Playing new races and having no lvl cap will have one drawback, but one I think I can live with. In GW I've had the chance to play every proffesion and lvl them up to max and accuire most all skills for each class. I truelly can't see myself doing that in a high lvl cap/no cap game. So I will likely pick a couple classes and play for a short time to find one I love and then stick to it forever.

I will not abbandon GW1, however by the time that GW2 is available there wont be much left for me to do and I'll be looking forward to a new challange.

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:06 - 648

everyone is posting so fast XD

Chunk

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/N

21 Mar 2007 at 10:06 - 649

YOu know what A-Net!

You lied to us all about the AUCTION HOUSE!

Where is it?

I am not buying another product if I have to see WTS WTB spamming everywhere.

Hey Everyone guess what. Thunderhead Keep is still Bugged. But arena net thinks they have what it takes to make a new game. Not with my money they don't.

Ninja Spectre

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

21 Mar 2007 at 10:08 - 650

Krum, You Succeed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krum4o

I bought this game on the 6 month promise. On the fact that there would not be any people in the ouside world other then party members. On the llvl 20 balance. On the fact that it was marketed as a game that depends on skill not grind. Other online games were not like this and it is the reason why I never bothered playing them. And now all of that has been scrapped for a Wow clone. Or better put for a common online rpg. This was my favourite game for the pvp and pve both. RIP guild wars

What I see happening in the future is the following. All the children, all the less skilled players will be thrilled about the cute asura, and their lvl 100 characters. The more Pvp oriented players will leave. My self included eventhough I play both, pve more recently.

On the attempt to compete with with Wow. I honestly dont think there is a chance. In 2 years time they will be way ahead with content. Also there is a reason why Wow is so popular. Warcraft was already an established franchise. So no matter what they do they will always be ahead.

Anyway there is a lot I can say but Ill end it off here. My opinion is that this was a bad move.

Perfect..You dont "fail." to understand like others.

The Gewch

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

CDXX The Four Twentieth Infantry

E/Me

21 Mar 2007 at 10:09 - 651

To every upside there is a downside, to every Yes there is a No. To every 1 person that doesn't buy I bet theres two who do. Oh yeah and plus the copy you bought. :X

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

W/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:10 - 652

So EOTN, that is actually part 4 of the GW collection?
Holiday of 2007, so what is that July/August?

The Gewch

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

CDXX The Four Twentieth Infantry

E/Me

21 Mar 2007 at 10:11 - 653

Holiday = Christmas time. lol?

Joandir

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Europe -ITALY-

R/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:16 - 654

I play GW, i enjoy to play GW. Playing Videogame is a waste of time (you play for fun, not for life) but i like it. It dosen't matter how much time I spent playing gw, i like it and i'll play (if i can) the same ammount of hours n GW2.
Good work Anet

CuriousCarrie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Europe

E/Mo

21 Mar 2007 at 10:19 - 655

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Immature or just pissed off that ANet would change the game you've been regularly playing for ~ 2 years to something like WoW?

I've read a bit more of whats been posted and I'm understanding that it's more like: Buy CH2 and play a "GW" game (that's different) or buy a new expansion for the GW you play now. I guess I'll take comfort in knowing that most people will choose part b).

Pfft, also. You're talking about fow armour and eye candy now? I hope you enjoy griding for your tier5 axe and your epic flying mount, sir.

But yeah, you're right. I'm not ANet, and what I think, aswell as everybody here, doesn't matter. I guess I can look on the bright side, if all goes bad at least GW won't interfere with my final years at school.

Thanks,
~Rhanoct

Nicely said and lol@ "tier5 axe and your epic flying mount". xDDD

I know you posters won't miss me, when I say I will not by GW2, but I know that Anet will be missing a customer. I may seem like one small person, but I'm not alone. I know of many who bought GW for GW and not for WoW, and what with the bleak outlook on the new game, I will not buy it. I'm not crying out for attention, and neither are people like Ninja, when we say we are not joining GW2. As somebody said earlier, Anet is, in the end, just trying to make a profit. They care about pleasing us, with updates etc, to keep us motivated to play and buy new chapters. They care to hear what our input is because in the end, we are the ones paying their salaries. So they put up with our childish rants and "tantrums" and flames and try to weed out what the majority want. And well, since it is after all a business, Anet will certainly care to hear statements such as "I will not buy the next game and here is why ____". It is a business and we are buying their product. If customers are unhappy with the product, they will leave and find a new one. What would you do if you bought a box of chocolates and what you got inside was carrots and peas? Would you eat the carrots and peas and say "well... I guess I'll conform with this" or would you say "I bought chocolate and now I want chocolate" and then bring the box back and never buy something at that store again? You'd be an unhappy customer. We all bought GW1 because it was GW1. We got what we bargained for. We bought all of the chapters thinking we're giong to get more, etc. And now we're being told that they aren't living up to the expectations that they gave us, with their promise of new chapters every 6 months. IMO it's like finding carrots and peas in my box of chocolates.

Chunk

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/N

21 Mar 2007 at 10:19 - 656

Don't you dare look at this picture and tell me my character can't live for 100+ years!!!!!!!!

RIP-GW

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

21 Mar 2007 at 10:20 - 657

I'm not sure why everyone's complaining about GW2. It has no bearing or affect what-so-ever on the game you're currently playing, which means the hard earned money you spent on it is still working for you. You're getting what you payed for. If GW2 doesn't have the features you like, just don't buy it.

After all, money talks, right? We'll see if what Anet is doing is worth it. How successful do you think GW2 will be?

BoredJoe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

21 Mar 2007 at 10:20 - 658

I feel disappointed overall.

With no option to bring characters across I might as well stop playing and just wait until GW 2 comes out and consider things from there. I don't care about achievements or titles on my characters, or bringing those forward. I'd prefer to bring my characters themselves across.

Ultra high level cap? Bah.

Well that's the best solution to storage and ultra rich players. Just make everything you have worthless as it cant be bought forward. I expect skills wouldn't be bought across either. It's the end of everything.

Overall sounds like something for the younger crowd.

Jamison0071

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Melbourne, Australia

Morporkian Mercenaries

N/Me

21 Mar 2007 at 10:23 - 659

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Lets face facts, people are and always have been afraid of change.

Myself included, however, I do think given the time frame that the change is do and will be a good thing overall.

While I will miss my Fow Warrior and his plethora of cool weapons the chance to explore a new world while interacting live with large numbers of people is something I will look forward to.

Playing new races and having no lvl cap will have one drawback, but one I think I can live with. In GW I've had the chance to play every proffesion and lvl them up to max and accuire most all skills for each class. I truelly can't see myself doing that in a high lvl cap/no cap game. So I will likely pick a couple classes and play for a short time to find one I love and then stick to it forever.

I will not abbandon GW1, however by the time that GW2 is available there wont be much left for me to do and I'll be looking forward to a new challange.

QFT I feel the same way

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:27 - 660

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chunk

Don't you dare look at this picture and tell me my character can't live for 100+ years!!!!!!!!

RIP-GW

LMAO man did you get farmed?

BoredJoe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

21 Mar 2007 at 10:29 - 661

So what happens with our minipets? WTB bone dragon offer 1K.

Chunk

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/N

21 Mar 2007 at 10:30 - 662

Quote:

Originally Posted by prism2525

LMAO man did you get farmed?

I'm a masochist

Krum4o

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Toronto, Ontario and Burgas, Bulgaria

Just Type Resign (NOOB)

Rt/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:31 - 663

now we are going to get many people doing storage clean outs

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

21 Mar 2007 at 10:32 - 664

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malibu Illusion

No, they're making a WoW clone. As I said, lots of people play GW for its innovative qualities and the fact is it different from other MMOs out there - they're about to, basically, abandon their concept and adopt the same one every MMO of today has taken.

FFS, the game is two years away, yet you and your cronies claim it's a WoW clone. Where exactly is your crystal ball shoved that you can make these statements with such authority?

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

21 Mar 2007 at 10:33 - 665

TWO QUESTIONS.

1. How will character slots be handled in gw2? will slot purchases in guild wars have any effect on ANYTHING?

2. Will any significant content ever be released for guild wars after GWEN and gw2 are out? any new chapters or free addons like sorrows furnace?

if the answers to both are no, I can't see myself continuing with the arena net charade, throwing more money at a dishonest development group with fickle schemes and undelivered promises......

jahjah

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

Siege Turtles

N/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:33 - 666

Feels like the end of the world time to spend all my money on booze and sweets !

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:37 - 667

To all the cronies who are threatening to leave GW forever and not look back. Please leave already and spare us your rant here as well, or better, create a "Good bye all" thread and get it closed by the mod. lol

Maybe we should have a sub forum for this sort of thing. NOT!

Sea Edge

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Black Eagles [BEG]

W/Me

21 Mar 2007 at 10:38 - 668

Quote:

Originally Posted by eightyfour-onesevenfive

Companies like Anet know very well what their customers want and what they don't want. Why would they implement something that a majority of their customers don't like? The want to sell their product.

Star Wars Galaxies - New Game Enhancement patch?

Retchy VengFull

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

VENT

Mo/N

21 Mar 2007 at 10:39 - 669

Very informative reading. I hope Gwenn turns out to be evil or something.

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:39 - 670

I don't see the big fuss about not being able to bring characters over. When a character of mine has reached so much they have, I'm just glad to start anew.

And level cap, I really don't think it will be as deciding as the consensus now seems to be. My believe it will be similar to the current one, where you can achieve skill points (and possible other benefits) by leveling, but nothing game-breaking and the cap is pretty much purely a number anyway. But it will give some people the CHANCE to grind if they choose to - probably won't be required.

Not to mention GW2 is still about 2 years away. Anything can happen in that time, heck, most of us probably weren't even playing GW 2 years ago.

News on GWEN make me all giddy, though. Prophecies was always my favourite chapter and can't wait to explore the Charr lands further.

ghostkai

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

RISE

W/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:44 - 671

/sarcasm

OHHHHHH MY GOD WTF A-NET YOU SUCK RAAAA RAAA BLAAHHH BLAAAAAH I'M LEAVING RANT RANT RANT BITCH BITCH WHINE

/end of sarcasm

seriously how is it a WoW clone?! wow, it has races! WoW has races! wow!!!!!! so does most MMO's????
it has a high level cap! WoW has a high level cap! wow!!!!!! so does most MMO's????

world of warcraft isn't the only MMORPG, it also didn't invent the genre, stop being so narrow minded u silly children

Sign Here

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

21 Mar 2007 at 10:47 - 672

I can't wait until GW2 comes out, and also i cant wait until Eye Of The North comes out too. though, I am not very happy because you can't transfer characters from other campaigns to the campaign you're in. I love the high level feture. Ty for spreading info Guild Wars Guru, and thanks inde for taking time in your post to tell us about Guild Wars news.

BoredJoe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

21 Mar 2007 at 10:47 - 673

It makes a difference to know that your character is RIP at a certain point in time, i.e. time spent playing up to GW2 really is a waste.

I'll miss my /age and /death stats too.

dark_prince2023

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

W/Mo

21 Mar 2007 at 10:48 - 674

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuriousCarrie

Okay... so why don't you play DAoC directly? Or WoW so that you know what it is like? Well lets see... we were promised that GW would be expanded upon and developed. If they were to run two parrallel games (GW1 and GW2) and develop both and expand both, I'd definately commend Anet and tell them good job. But see, they have so far not completed their primary project and now they are telling us they are abandoning it along with the promises they made to us, their loyal players, and are starting from scratch? Hmm... Part of GW charm is the fact that we got expansions, new characters, etc. And now that is about to end so that I may start overs (yes, except for maybe my few pvp achievements)? Oh yippee... let me contain my enthusiasm (yes... that was dry sarcasm for those of you who can't read into text). Ninja is just making a point that opposes yours and you call him names and flame him?

I can't afford to play DAoC its like 12.95 a month and takes up alot of time I have a job and a wife I'm 23 and have a life and 12.95 is too much to spend on a MMO the only reason I play GW is its free And why dose everyone hate Everyone (talking bout games) why your really not that much better then a wow player guild wars dose have grinding and dose take time to play just because you have a 20 lvl cap dosn't mean that you are done you have skills to get and weps and armor how do you get this by gringding granted its not as saver but its still there

<-- to quote the great Ninja "I'm cool"

P.S. Guild Wars was not an MMO it is a CORPG Like Diablo soooo guess what Wheres D3

Rainbird

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:49 - 675

I can't tell you how pleased I am

Thank You So Very Much ANet!
My only doubt lies in the levelcap, but ANet hasn't dissappointed me ever since I started playing back in 2005 ^^
I feel confident that if anyone can make this work, it's ArenaNet

chichi_wo_moge

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

21 Mar 2007 at 10:50 - 676

I don't know if WoW players/fans are gonna bash the gw player/fans or join them. But i got this feeling that WoW players/fans are drooling for this.

Ty Anet for almost 2years of entertainment.

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:51 - 677

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retchy VengFull

Very informative reading. I hope Gwenn turns out to be evil or something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inde

Act 3 pits you against the Great Destroyer

Great Destroyer = Gwen? lol

Evil lvl 50 Gwen ftw!

Mentor73

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dsky

W/Mo

21 Mar 2007 at 10:54 - 678

I will be buying GW:EotN, atleast 1 copy (have 2 accounts) just to see what happened to GWEN. And that might end as a beautifull adventure

But GW2, dont really know. I'm allready turning to LOTR On-line, and not able to transfer my character to GW2 is a big turn-off to me.

But in 2 years from now lot can happen, so we will see.

ghostkai

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

RISE

W/

21 Mar 2007 at 10:54 - 679

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Great Destroyer = Gwen? lol

Evil lvl 50 Gwen ftw!

LMAO, that wud be awesome, but i doubt gwen will be something silly like that, but i'm pretty sure she'll feature, after all we've followed her from ascalon (her flute) thru kryta (her cape) and into elona (that flower) she musta gone into the tunnels!! rawr, and the great destroyers gonna be awesome, can't wait

Ninja Spectre

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

21 Mar 2007 at 10:58 - 680

hey dark prince! only me ...The Great Ninja and Undressed can be cool >.>

<- see im cool

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undressed

He's not even to be tamed by friendly words. We obviously have someone quite unmanly here who can't take changes which nobody enforces on him.

Unmanly? He? Him? Im a girl...this is the internet..wow, so not only does the world revolve around you and only your opinions but your sexist too, the only person whos unmanly here is you! see how cool undressed is

. should my name be Ninja Spectress now?

<- so cool