Wow have you people honestly listened to yourself in this thread?
Look heres the deal. you get reward points based on your positioning in the AT's. Any monkey with a brain can figure this out. its based just like the points system in say nascar, baseball's win loss ratio, etc.... The better you do, the more points you get. simple. It will take a vast amount of points to be able to unlock anything, so not only do you have to grind it and farm it like a PVE player would do to get a certain weapon to sell, YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE GOOD AND WIN to at least place high enough to recieve rewards points. Seriously... its not like someone is going to have a PVP only char, go win 5 matches in RA and be like "OMG!!!! I GETZ A ELEMENTAL SWERD!!!!!!1" I love how everyone thinks that its only going to take an hour or so to be able to unlock everything. Ill remind you again, go to the tournament guy in your own guildhall. No where does it say you use faction to unlock any of this. It says reward points. and how do you recieve reward points? You compete in the At's and it is then based on your placement in said tournaments. Simple. So no your PVP player cant just go and get your precious sword in a matter of minutes, where u have to spend a day or two.... Get that thought out of your head.
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Originally Posted by Taurucis
And once again, PvE is stuffed into the dirt so that ANET's pet PvPers are happy.
It used to be common knowledge that PvE gets nice skinned items, PvP gets titles and fast character customization... so now PvP gets nice skinned items as well? What does ANET want us to do, delete all our PvE characters?
As many have said before, the rift between PvE and PvP is widening. PvP gets all the good benefits from PvE, and PvE is left out again. What's ANET going to do next, delete all Role-Playing characters and delete all accounts that don't play HA/GvG so that we have to play PvP?
Look at it this way... you have the "whiny PvE scrubs" and the snobbish PvP elitists at war again. Reminds me very much of that story about the ugly dog and the beautiful dog who always fight... the winner is the one the master feeds.
Seems very much that PvE is the ugly dog and as you can see, they are getting screwed over. Sure, we've gotten Hard Mode... but if you sniff around you will see that it's only harder and there aren't really any more drops. Just a few golds on one rich, lucky player (probably a PvP snob) and the rest don't get bull.
Also ATS seems like only a no-lifer PvP elitist can use it. You need to log on at the right time, with the right build, or you fail. How's that for a guild member getting kicked cause he has a life?
I am a hardcore PvE player who just dabbles in Aspenwood and AB every nøw and then. All my character slots hold PvE characters. My sin with her Shiro's Blades can demolish an unaware elementalist just as well as you PvP characters. The only difference between her and that PvP sin, is her armor and weapon skins (celestial daggers) And now PvPers will get cool skins as well. Is it really fair to disregard the 5k I spent for the daggers, the 20k for my Shiro's Blades, the 30k+ I spent on my armor, the skills I bought, and all the runes I bought?
Fiery Celestial Daggers of Defense: 5k.
Skills: 10k.
Runes: A little over 4k.
Shiro's Blades: 20k.
My little armor combination, plus cost of materials: Around 30k.
Getting completely screwed over once again by ANET: Priceless.
There are some things that PvE can't grant you with. For everything else, there's PvP elitism
My cheesey MasterCard joke aside, back to the topic. I got my Icy Dragon Sword fair and square, and hell, I'm going to flaunt it wherever I PvP. It's something like "PvE pride" you could say? The only thing that will result from this:
Hardcore PvE'ers: "noooo pvp gets my l337 armor and weaps! noooo1!1!1!!1!1"
Casual PvE'ers: "So I farmed for two weeks for my armor and cool weapon, and these no-lived PvPers can win it this easily? AND I get a farming nerf?"
Casual PvP'ers: "I can't get into the tournament... I've got school/college/my job/the kids/RL stuff to take care of. Guess I'm screwed."
Hardcore PvP: (the only one who benefits) "WHOOPEEEEE YAAAA STUPID PVE SCRUBS NOW I CAN BE AS LEET AS YOU HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ONLY I GET TO FLASH MY LEET TIGER! HAHAHA PVE NOOBS! THANK YOO ANET NOW LET ME GVG MORE! ITZ MY LIIIIFE!"
Assuming that each "category" makes up for 1/4 of the GW population (I know it isn't but I don't feel like surveying all the GW players to see, and of course there's people in between categories) It means that 3/4 of the population gets shafted so that only one is happy.
<begin sarcasm>For all you O-So-L337 PvPers on your gilded thrones, you can disregard this last part, which is merely the whining of a PvE scrub like me. <end sarcasm>
This ATS (All-Time Screwup?) is merely something where only the PvPers who spend every minute of their life on GW benefit, hidden behind a façade that says "now everyone can participate!"
But it has not come out yet... I will wait and watch the uproar that occurs when it does.
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You sir have to be about the biggest JACKASS i have ever seen to reply to a PVP post. Im ever so glad we have your expert opinion with such misguided facts so that you of all people can set the record straight for us.
Look its as simple as this. PVE is in no way screwed over. PVE still gets to keep all their fancy skins, some fancy weapons, hell even weapons that PVP players cant get. In no way is your PVE character screwed over. No one says you cant use it and that you shouldnt use it. You put the time and effort into making your character your own. so by all means use it and enjoy it. A lot of PVP players made PVE characters for that same reason and also you used to be able to swap armor in PVP, so it was a dual purpose... but you think there wont be PVE chars used in PVP because people still like their characters? YOURE DEAD WRONG!!!! Also if you think that because a PVP char has the same skin as your PVE char, that now your PVE char is useless, Again YOURE DEAD WRONG!!!! I'm sorry to have burst your bubble... but im sure that you arent the only one running around with an assassin that has celestial daggers, skills, runes, and 15k armor... its been done before, so does that mean your pve character is now useless because somewhere in the 3+ million copies of Guildwars, someone might have a sin that looks like yours?
You say that PVE constantly gets the shaft to appease the PVP crowd.... yes because PVE gets so little and nothing has ever been done for PVE at all. The only thing 90% of the PVe community bitches about is the skill nerfs/buffs that we the PVP community get to help maintain balance. This game is supposed to be about skill, but thats kinda flawed when you have certian builds that can come up and press 1,2,3,2,3,2,3 and win.... how is that skill? so therefore ANET decided to balance said skill or game mechanics so that this type of build isnt as viable anymore... I can understand PVE farming builds get hurt by this. I understand, because PVP builds that are viable and have nothing to do with said overpowered build can be affected by this also... but that part is never mentioned because its construed as the PVP community bitching too much. We just kinda suck it up for the greater good... so besides trying to maintain a balanced game for all to enjoy, what has ever taken precidence over PVE in this game as far as PVP goes?
Look im ending this post with this. Instead of just randomly flaming things that we know nothing about, try gathering some information and using your head, instead of spewing some random garbage and getting a 7 page long thread about nothing of any importance.