Petition To Change Favour System Back

/not signed .. im euro and i actually prefer it. =]

/not signed since now everyone everywhere has favor pretty much all the time

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hi tripple gold plated a&&

remember all those posts years ago whenthe PVP players said they played for the fun of playing other people and would play even if the rewards were removed?

play for the fun of it or do something else to give meaning to your life

now the PVE can have that so called *honor*
play for fun or join the Peace Corps for *meaning*

it is a game so why be sore if more people can have the fun of going there?

*I FORGOT YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF ECTOS TO PROTECT AND IT IS MORE MEANINGFUL TO YOU TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT*

/ not signed...now pve people have the honor off granting favor...

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This change is revolutionary it:
-indirectly moderates drop rates
-makes favor more accessable to everyone
-isnt based off region
-makes the game more challenging (yes, i consider this a pro)

I could probably list more if i wanted

The two bolded points make as much sense as a Chinese hot dog.

Just because a system works, doesn't mean it's rational...

Its just my opinion, Doesnt make it necessarily true

Lol and a chinese hot dog? interesting analogy....

but if the system controls the flow in and out of Fow/Uw then i rationalize that it will control the flow of ecto and shards out of them. Its just like a stop light moderates traffic.

And as far as challenging goes, Many people use Fow to help get Survivor titles due to the huge amount of experience. It was my fault that i wasnt specific enough.

/notsigned, i quite like it this way, espically how it displays players who get max titles ^^.

Another valid input from a jerk-off who would had given the same advice as "Adapt". Shortcomings? Please, the system is so screwed to the point that people who actually have a life cant even have access to an area that a lot of there goals are set upon. Its like going to six flags but you cant ride the funnest rides because your "regional team" of performers didnt do well enough to beat the next regional team 300miles away. What a waste. People go into HoH dont win for favor. That assumption is by far on the most assnine ones i've heard in a while.

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i like the new favor system

the only ones bitching r ppl from Europe b/c they might not have favor when they want

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I was skeptical at first.. very skeptical in fact.. but I like it better this way. We're all in it together and I like that.

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Though right now, its been perma-favor, I believe its because its the first weekend, and everyone wants to max out a title and get their name up there, which is understandable. But I believe eventually, the amount of favor time will die down. Unless theres dedicated people out there getting max SS/LB titles on all their toons, if so, props to you.

Also, for all the people that ONLY PvP (yes, I PvP too, but I love me some Pve, dont use this as a flame, Im probably higher ranked than you) and I have my name up for winning Halls a multitude of times. Yeah, its kinda cool, especially when you EARN favor, not just win. But, to be honest with you, Im gonna be about a million times happier when it says "Koo Ooomar has earned the title "Grandmaster Treasure Hunter" than I would have ever been from winning halls.

HOPEFULLY we dont have favor all the time, I have a decent amount of pinky balls that I dont want to become worthless, but I think the market will balance back at 5k, then slowly go up, as more people max titles. Then slowly start dropping as people start maxing the GW:EN titles. Thats just my Money Market advice

Contradictory much? Either that or you are extremely confused... japan/taiwan/whatever NEVER HAD FAVOR, it was basically europe and america 99% of the time, now favor is WORLDWIDE but you're saying they got favor more often then? explain your logics or be quiet.

so far favor is constant and thats great. I love it. everytime i log in there is at least 40min till favor ends or even 80mins left. Haven't seen it without favor yet.

I'm sure Anet will adjust how many titles can affect favor in the future. So please stop saying that maxed titles won't work in the future. 3million people playing the game, maxing title won't die anytime soon, so just play the game and enjoy it.

From day one, I thought the old favor system was the worst part of GW. Not because of the usual stated reasons, but because I thought that it drug nationalism and discrimination, quite unnecessarily, into a fantasy world.

Instead of talking about in-game nationalities like Ascalonian and Krytan, everyone was always bitching about Koreans, or Europeans, or Americans. What a terrible thing to artificially add to a video game, what with all of the miserable things going on in the real world these days.

I couldn't be happier to see the end of that system. Good riddance!

As for worrying about the number of players getting titles being few and finite, I instantly thought about that, too, but then I realized that surely Anet has been gathering and studying data on things like how often per hour someone worldwide achieves a valid title, and took that into account when designing this system.

I'm equally sure that if, in the future, everyone has gotten their titles and it turns out that we never have favor, Anet will notice this and change the system again.

I don't think it's too blindly optimistic to think that Anet has more data than we do, and will use it.

I like it. This is a big improvement, your character name gets displayed to the whole world when you max a title. People going for FoW armour don't have to endlessly wait for favor to change hands.

20% of the people are opposed to anything anyway, and they tend to be the loudest 20%.

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I'm what you'd call a casual player, and every time I've logged on since the change we've had favor. I don't see a problem with it.

Thats one of the worst things about it. Its a new form of spam but now its from the game itself

100% not true. Im american my guild is american everyone on my friends list is american. NONE of us like this system.

As far as Europe not having favor when they want lol. we ALL get favor at the same time and its pretty much 24/7 untill people run out of titles to max out.

there are trust me. And lots of them

Its not just Europe that doesnt like this system. Alot of people dont. Alot of people do but dont single out 1 region because its not true.
I am American and I dont like this system one bit.

remember, this is a global game. i'm in america and i couldn't care less. but those people in japan, taiwan, or korea barely get 1 hour of favor a week based on the old system.

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It's actually nice to log in for once and not see "Europe has the favor of the gods" and now I can actually go into the FoW/UW during the day time rather than having to wait late at night!

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I have no idea what the OP is talking about, America seems almost in constant favor since the new system was implemented.

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Whatever it is now, is infinitely better than it was.

Now PvE people control favour. As it should be.

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Much better now.

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Basicly Europe controled favor all the time. Now the europeans are mad because everyone gets it. Its better this way but I wouldnt mind if the message that said who won in halls would also say what country they are from.

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I really don't get people. We have favour almost all the time, and now I can do FOW/Uw just about whenever I want, instead of very late at night. I'm sick of relying on PVP'ers.

I have no idea why any country outside of Europe complains, because they have access to favour now for a extremely extended amount of time per day.

~This now stops PVP from affecting PVE even more. PVP gets first dibs on skill nerfs, and they shouldn't also get dibs on when people can access Elite PVe areas.

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Well the system seems to have a problem, but I do not want PvP to govern access to an elite PvE area. If this new method was to be equal then why has America held favor for more than 24hrs now?

If anyone noticed in the updates, all territory changes were reset. So if your region does not have favor you can move to a new one. I've recently moved my 2nd account back to America since Euro never has favor.

I kinda surprised myself. I actually like the new favor system.

What in the heck are you talking about?

There are no more regions. EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE either has favor or doesn't, all at the same time. If you're on an American server, and you don't have favor at the moment, neither does Europe, Korea, Japan, or anywhere else. We're all in the same boat now, and that's a fantastic change for the better!

If you see that you have favor constantly, then everyone in the whole world is happy along with you, because they all have favor constantly.

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Are you off minds.
I stopped playing the game cause anet nerfed everything made faction skills a huge debate. Loot Nerf whoops Hard mode ı meand to let everyone enjoy the game. Oh so non europeans said yipee. LOL?. Let say you get favor 3 hour a day non europe people. Now no one gonna have favor. 20 people max a title?. I know guild ward have many players yet not many people care or track titles. Only titles I was maxes were lb and sunsperar and I have defender of kurzick

Other titles then lb and ss are extremely hard and not even 20 people max them in a day. So what gonna happen? Ecto PRICES ARE SKY HIGH. If this doesnt changes or titles like
Legendery Armin saberlin uest completer
Legendery Togo Quest compelater
Titles introduse that will take 5 minute to max which will screw up maxed titles title will make this good idea.
Non EUROPENS THAT ARE HAPPY: YOU GONNA GET EVEN LESS FAVOR
AND WHY PEOPLE STAY OUT OF EUROPE? I was in american servers when I started and when I heard favor system changed to europe. SIMPLE

This post is confusing.

First off, you do know that Favor is no longer seperated by region, yes? That means when 20 titles are maxed by anyone anywhere in the world, the whole world gets favor for an hour.

Also, this stacks. If twenty more titles are earned, then another hour is added to whatever remaining time there is.

I also did a favor check 3 times today with time inbetween of 3 hours: We had favor for at least an hour every time I checked it.

Why even bother with favor then?

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/sends destro maniak back to school

We all have more favor now it would seem, this is pure win-win if you ask me.

Keep it like this. First people complained that Favor was affected by PvP, now when it's changed, they want the old system back.

I'm European and I like this update.

noooooooooooooooooooooo

i only played HA so i could win halls and give favour to pvers!

I dont play the game no longer cause anti farm perpective of anet and all nerf made me bored of the game.
So you say this way its more time with favor?
How many player play guild wars.
I more then 2 million I guess and less then 3million. Thats prety good if everyone is tracking titles. But they arent. How many of them playing ht game long enought to get max titles. %95 of the communite cant have enought time and patience to max titles. So you say every hour 20 people max titles. I would be amazed. Ad I dont wait at game any longer I dont know ho logn it takes some people to ax titles.
BUT IT SHOULD BE EVERY 5 MINUTES CAUSE IF TAKES LONGER OLD WAY WAS LONGER TIME SPEND WITH FAVOR WHEN I PLAYED(I mean prime playing times for european time zone. mornin 10 night 1 I dont remember cant getting in uw)

Almost every time I have logged on in the days since the update...the world had favor...I always check with the /favor command even if I'm doing something other than farming there.

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because control of access to PvE areas should stay in PvE players hands. The system is not perfect and should be changed...but I would rather have THIS system than a PVP controlled system any day of the week.

IMO access should be on an individual basis...earn your own favor. If you don't have your own favor you should not be allowed to be in a group to go to UW/FoW (allowing people to group to get access would still result in people looking for a group that has favor instead of getting it themselves and would be no better than the world favor system). Now how should people gain favor? New Rank in any qualifying title (past a certain level for some titles, like a minimum of level 5 for Sunspear or level 3 for Lightbringer) or (give people the option to farm titles or complete the quest) finish a specially made pve quest to gain favor. Gaining favor would allow access for 3-6 hours (or whatever the anet team decides is better for the favor system).

The quests I suggested to gain favor would be either a single quest to gain favor designed solely to gain favor. Or it would be a single quest for each realm, designed for that realm (ie designed for that god). Completing the quest would allow favor for 3-6 hours or whatever anet feels is best. These quests would not offer any reward except favor. The monsters you face would not drop any loot except event loot like victory tokens.



The reason the system should be changed to individual favor is because otherwise some people are just ungrateful SOB's who sit in their chosen realm of the gods access point and complain about the system...complain when the world loses favor...and complain when the world is about to lose favor...meanwhile they do absolutely nothing to go out and get favor. They need to be forced to get their own favor. They want something for nothing. They need to do a bit of the work instead of just sitting waiting till the world gets favor. Ideally the world favor system is the best system...everyone works to get favor...but it just doesn't work like that...some people are ungrateful SOB's who want to have things handed to them and want to do ZERO work to get access to elite areas...so that needs to change. Individual favor is the way to do it.

Just to be clear I am American.

You know what's funny? The past two days when I've logged on at 6 am EST, we've either not had favor or <5 left. Not only that, it takes a long time for people to get 20 maxed titles after we lose it in the morning. And on weekdays, especially once school is back in session for most people, I'd say this will only get worse.