Petition To Change Favour System Back

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

This new global system needs some tweaks to make it so that every can't go in 24/7 however the old system old blocked asian regions from getting favor and regional distribution wasn't fair.

/notsigned

This system needs to be changed a little but changing it back to the way it was is NOT the answer.

CyberMesh0

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

It's like I said. I challenge Anet to remove loot scaling, just so we can see people whine about it.

on topic, /notsigned. As far as ectos go for currency, look at other gems. Otherwise, you have to agree that Anet is at least trying! to cater to players that wanted an easier way to access UW/FoW, after even making access scrolls.

lunksunkunk

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

/notsigned to the Nth degree.

Europeans had plenty of time abusing a system that they exploited to the fullest extent for the obvious but rarely acknowledged problem of PvP influencing PvE. Its high time there's a change. Don't like it? Adapt. Thats what you people who dont have a valid input always say, so now the balls in your court. Have fun.

This is the first update that anet implemented that i actually support in a long while.

NJudson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Effendi Westland
yes now japan and taiwan have no chances at all of going in, so /signed for the sake of our fellow gamers.
I guess I don't understand what you're saying. It's my understanding that there is no territories with favor now. I thought it was global depending on the title thing. If the title count isn't met then noone in the world gets favor. When the title count is met then everyone in the world has favor.

Am I wrong?

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Yeah i think its once 20 titles are maxed everyone in the universe gets 1 hour of favor, then +3 min after that.

I thought it was territories too, till i found out i was wrong :P

Phineas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

/not signed.

Knee jerk reaction, wait and see.

Kisuro

Kisuro

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

/notsigned
The old system was dumb. Imagine that acess to HA was restricted only to the teritorry that had, say, beaten Mallyx 4 times in a row. Stupid? Very. But that's exactly how the old system worked: acess to pve areas based on achievements of pvpers. Now it's the pvpers that work for themselves. Besides, favor is now global, which is a step in the right direction.

Kyosuke

Kyosuke

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Tomb of Souls

DC

N/Me

/signed

Why?
The old system actually gave HoH a purpose. It made it more of an honor for the PVP players to do something good for the rest of the community/their region. Now it's almost meaningless eventhough you still get your name pasted up.

It's not our fault, Taiwan and Japan don't play the game that much. It's not our fault that other places don't have the player base to form guilds/succeed.

Stop with the damn liberal thinking of "no one left behind" and be more conservative with the simple fact that YOU have the ability to set your own destiny. The players are there in other countries, they just have to want it more. Don't let those of us willing to work at it be punished.

NJudson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyosuke
/signed

Why?
The old system actually gave HoH a purpose. It made it more of an honor for the PVP players to do something good for the rest of the community/their region. Now it's almost meaningless eventhough you still get your name pasted up.

It's not our fault, Taiwan and Japan don't play the game that much. It's not our fault that other places don't have the player base to form guilds/succeed.

Stop with the damn liberal thinking of "no one left behind" and be more conservative with the simple fact that YOU have the ability to set your own destiny. The players are there in other countries, they just have to want it more. Don't let those of us willing to work at it be punished.
Well, I understand where you're coming from, but what you're saying doesn't amount to a steamy pile of crap if you consider what that most of the complainers of the old favor method is most likely are PvE type of players. Ok, I have no factual proof for that statement, but just an educated guess when reading through posts over time.

So it's not about damn liberal blah, blah, blah thinking. It's mostly about why they heck should a part of the game I don't care about (PvP) influence what I do care about (PvE).

/NOT SIGNED

Ludo

Ludo

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by lunksunkunk
/notsigned to the Nth degree.

Europeans had plenty of time abusing a system that they exploited to the fullest extent for the obvious but rarely acknowledged problem of PvP influencing PvE. Its high time there's a change. Don't like it? Adapt. Thats what you people who dont have a valid input always say, so now the balls in your court. Have fun.

This is the first update that anet implemented that i actually support in a long while.
How were they abusing anything? How were they expoliting anything? They we're simply better at winning favor in the system that was designated for it. Don't try to disguise your shortcomings as "cheating" on the part of the other side. In my opinion there should be no other side at all, and the whole system is messed up.

BTW, American here.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

/not signed

The new favor system isn't perfect, but it does solve one problem and that's seperating PvE areas from the PvPers hands.

AngeloM3

AngeloM3

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

RI

Diciples of Rage [RAGE]

/NOTsigned

Great update! US, Japan and Taiwan all have a shot to have favor! US would only get it for a couple hours a day... Japan and Taiwan very rarely ever had it. Now it levels the playing field. Good decision ANet! I've loved all your updates... loot scaling (two thumbs up!), new Search function (two thumbs up!) etc....

brian78wa

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2006

Spirit Check

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Croco Clouds
/notsigned

Very good system imo, let those europeans feel the pain of not having favor.

They are GW players too, learn how to share the 'deception' of not having favor with everyone else in the world
you people dont get it.
EVERYONE has favor. not America not Europe ALL of us. Read the description of the change it says WORLD.

brian78wa

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2006

Spirit Check

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw

The new favor system isn't perfect,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
but it does solve one problem and that's seperating PvE areas from the PvPers hands.
may solve one problem but it adds others. the way it is right now they might as well just get rid of the favor system all together.

Needs a different solution to where everyone can get access but not 24/7

Ludo

Ludo

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by brian78wa
you people dont get it.
EVERYONE has favor. not America not Europe ALL of us. Read the description of the change it says WORLD.
I agree. I would rather have a system that awarded it completely randomly than force geological hate and lame grind. Do that many people still care about this junk anyways? The awards are Fow/Uw (yawn) and lousy shine benefits. Who really cares?

Ludo

Ludo

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by margretli
Missions are even more finite than titles no?
Perhaps, but you can repeat missions again with a team for status points if you're all Gung Ho, and help other people get Masters at the same time. You cannot do Titles again. That was was the basis of my suggestion.

As it is this is just another sacrificial fire to The Lords of Grind.

Kern Wolf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

NJ

W/E

Here it is, in plain English.
That test favor thing sucked.
Whatever those devs were smoking when they thought of it, I want some.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

/not signed

while I agree the current system is going to need some major fixing the old one isn't the answer anymore

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Let see, the /Signed are being drowned in a sea of /Notsign. It appears support is for the favour system to not revert.

Oh that and the fact that we have had favour for almost the entire day.... Not working huh? I seriously doubt that people woke up this morning and said u know what lets grind for titles to get FOW access.

It would takem a day or two anyway, moral so far its working and its better all round then HoH favour






I myself have already voted /notsigned

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Hey, guys,

We included this thread in the Communities Summary this week, but it occurs to me we have a clearer way of presenting this. Why doesn't someone simply make a thread that asks the simple question: Do you like the new Favor of the Gods System?" Or something of that sort?

The yes and no vote would tell us whether the players honestly feel it should be reverted.

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

i'm just piss cause i get no world spam!

>_>

Forever Faithless

Forever Faithless

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Not Sure Its Dark

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Hey, guys,

We included this thread in the Communities Summary this week, but it occurs to me we have a clearer way of presenting this. Why doesn't someone simply make a thread that asks the simple question: Do you like the new Favor of the Gods System?" Or something of that sort?

The yes and no vote would tell us whether the players honestly feel it should be reverted.
See i told you Gaile would probably look at this and i would have done a poll but i dnt have the privileges to do so so would some one else care to that ? and link it to this thread any ways thnx for the input Gaile

.defekt

.defekt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ex Talionis [Law], Schindlers Fist [ouch]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jkyarr
Good riddance!! So quit already, Quitter! If you quit the game then you'll quit whining in the forums, which is my real goal!

I think anybody who doesn't log on in 6 month's time should earn an in game "Quitter" title and be logged in periodically by Anet to stand around in town in shackles for the explicit purpose of being riddiculed by other players. Then we could get favor from people that don't even play anymore!

Here's the title track:
6 months = "Slacker"
7 months = "Can't take the heat"
8 months = "Wimp"
9 months = "Chickened out"
10 months = "Mommy said I can't play anymore"
11 months = "Quitter"
12 months = "Quitter of Epic Proportions"

If you come back to the game after that hiatus then you can wear the title with pride! It should default so that any time you haven't selected a different title, it displays this one.

Original topic:
/NOT signed
you're a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing idiot. you expect everybody that bought the game to continue playing it forever? nice life, buddy. have fun with that.

Rusty Deth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Woodland Realm

Mo/N

/not signed.

I like the new system.

RSGashapon

RSGashapon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Sol 3

R/

Favour? Favour, hmm? Why do I get the feeling this is a disgruntled European player, possibly part of a large PvPing guild and/or alliance, who can't maintain a strangle hold on HoH and the Favor of the Gods anymore and must therefor bring forth a half-assed petition, which has no hope of reverting the changes, to light in this forum?

Sheesh. Give the new system a chance, it may work for the better. HoH hasn't changed, the rewards aren't gone. They just don't influence a PvE aspect of the game anymore.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

After 3 hours I would say /signed, but now I say:
/not signed.
Why? Im from Europe, so I usually had favor. If not, I waited/went to HA/farmed somewhere else, but usually didn't happen. But now I can see, that it was a bit unfair. I mean, I could count how many times Taiwan had favor on a hand of blind butcher. Is that fair? No. And it doesn't seem that bad - I went afk for 15 minutes and when I came back, there were already 3 people that gained max title.

Komes I

Komes I

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Somewhere over the rainbow... what the hell?!

[DLOT]

R/

Hmm i really hate titles so i would have to say.

/singed

Aliur

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

i hate new favor system

/signed

J snukka

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New York

/not signed

they can improve on the current system by adjusting some stuff. like make the achievements personal to our character for access or just allow maxed Guardian titles for each campaign and maxed skill capping and individual maxed cartograph available to affect favor. instead of the legendary titles alone. it will grant access more often that way.

Darkpower Alchemist

Darkpower Alchemist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

NYC

The Circle Of Nine[NINE]

E/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylos Angelheart
if you want equal access just remove the favour system... yeah itrs supposed to be an elite area but sos urgoz and the deep you dont need kurzick or luxon favour to get them you just turn up... this new system is well...poo! bring back the Hall of Heroes! i dont even do PvP and i dont like this, nor do i even go to UW or FoW much and i really think this is a bad idea.

either change it back, change it so its summin that makes sense or just remove it from the game completely.

I DONT CARE WHO GETS TITLES. THIS IS SUPOSED TO BE SUMMIN FOR PEOPLE TO ACHIEVE GRADUALLY NOT SOMETHING FORCED UPON US!!!

/signed
I was trolling this thread for just this type of post. If you don't care, why are you even commenting? Luxon/Kurzick Faction doesn't matter, but their are 2 ways into their respective elite mission.

1)Scrolls and (2)Ferried by a member of the owners of Cavalon/HzH's alliance. This means either spend your money, your faction, or wait for a good guy to open the door for you. Previously, only the good guy was available, and the people cried foul.

Another point you fail to realize is that alot of people play PvE and thus achieve titles rather frequently. 20 guys out of a possible 4 million isn't even effecting those who apparently don't care. So favor gained for access to PvE elite missions by PvE deeds makes complete sense,imo, as was being saught after by the PvE community for the majority of 2 yrs now. The PvP people, in all honesty, are almost totally unaffected by this change. You may not get to make the FoW/UW exclusive to your region anymore, but hell, the guys that own towns like Cavalon and HzH don't have that kind of monopoly anymore either. So, suck it up and make nice. Also, as they achieve their maxed out Hero titles, they will help in gaining favor for the whole damn world. That's a greater deed than just for your region. Does getting 5 wins in a row change now because you don't get the favor of the gods for it? I would assume it didn't.

macke

macke

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Serbia-Belgrade

W/

/not signed

I am on euro server btw

Chunk

Chunk

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/N

OK this is absolutely classic!

The OP is obviously European because he used the word rubbish.

Europe has dominated favor for what? 2 years now!

lol! now, they're crying because favor is based on PVE and not PVP.

I say that all whining Europeans should buy scrolls and deal with it.

GG Anet, although you shouldn't have made favor pvp based in the first place.

I will forgive you for making the Europeans cry.

6am3 Fana71c

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

/not signed
I am from Europe. And there is nothing wrong with this system. And btw if you can't wait, buy the scroll.

Chunk

Chunk

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/N

gg 6am way to support us non-pvpers.

Although I am amazed at how many of your fellow Europeans are coming out of the woodwork, and pretty much admitting that they enjoyed keeping favor from everyone else. I kinda creeps me out that people were that aggressive about favor but always denied it in the forums until now.

I lost count of how many times Euro PvP players said that favor and elite access had nothing to do with why they played. Now we know that they were being devious.

God Apprentice

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

I think the new favor system is stupid. I don't need or want to see a display of "Worrior Of Fuury" maxing a title.

Jecht Scye

Jecht Scye

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Lucky Crickets[Luck]

N/Me

/notsigned. Euros, it's time to adapt.

Matfei

Matfei

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

None. Being a loner X-Fire: matfei1

W/Mo

/signed.

Old system was easier to keep track of.

Perhaps mixing them together may work, but the new one alone is bollocks.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

new major change->change of habits

->more ppl crying anyway :P

/not signed ofc

Acehigh

Acehigh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Steel Phoenix[StP]/Terror Of The Justice Salmon[FisH]

/notsigned.

The old system was a load of crap.The new one needs some changes/tweaks,but its definitely better overall.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by God Apprentice
I think the new favor system is stupid. I don't need or want to see a display of "Worrior Of Fuury" maxing a title.
But seeing guilds like "I Did Your [Mawm]" is okay when they win a battle in the Hall of Heroes?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Why doesn't someone simply make a thread that asks the simple question: Do you like the new Favor of the Gods System?" Or something of that sort?
Because it's too early to ask. We're still seeing how it's working.