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Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

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24 Aug 2007 at 10:10 - 201

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I don't know if I've got the right end of the stick here - can someone put my mind at ease?

Say... I start GW2, and make a Sylvari character because I think they look kinda cool. I play the game, get to HoM, and lo! I am (somehow) a descendant of my GW1 char, and I have (customised?) access to their monuments/whatever.

What happens if I then decide that I don't actually like playing as a Sylvari after all, and decide to delete it and make an Asura instead? Is everything in my HoM still tied to/customised for/somehow attached to my deleted Sylvari?

The devs probably haven't even finalised how that works yet.

My thoughts on the mini pets - Anet had to find some way of preventing people from registering pets in the HoM and then passing them around to entire guilds / selling them afterwards. I don't believe the solution is perfect, account based mini pet customisation would be better. Or better still, a zookeeper / toymaker NPC. I'd love to be able to copy my Kuunie and give her to other characters in GW2 if I can. As long as they are customised and untradeable I don't see how this could be an issue for A.net.

As for the rest of it.. .well I guess I'm in a minority, but it's pretty much working how I expected it to.

Oh, not keen on the fact that the armours seem to be a bit indiscriminate. I'd like to guarantee that Saraphim's descedent won't be looking at a male version of her Vabbbi / Luxon / Primeval etc ...

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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24 Aug 2007 at 10:12 - 202

I honestly don't feel it matters soo much that everything get's customised. The Hall of Monuments is a vanity thing. Ok, so it unlocks items in GW:2...so if you want to keep everything un-customised, just leave the building of the Hall of Monuments until just before GW:2 comes out. Strikes me ANet may want to make some changes to the hall before then anyway.

Nothing to get too concerned about at this moment in time I think.

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

24 Aug 2007 at 10:28 - 203

Here is something I want to know.

I'm in the HoM right now and the "Honor" monument allows you to display your PvP titles (Hero, Gladiator, Champ). They won't respond till you get Rank 9 (or 12 for hero)!

Is this how it is going to be all the time? What if someone has rank 3 or rank 6 hero, will that incrue any bonuses when the thing goes live? If not that is a bit nasty.

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

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24 Aug 2007 at 10:57 - 204

i am troubled by this aswell, the armor and titles are fine IMO though. i dont mind if each of my characters has different title monuments but i prefer my monk to have acess to survivor because titles werent invented back when he was born.
The mini pets thing is my main concern, i understand that people could just trade them so why not have them customised to the account. similar to hat maker or tournament account name schemes...
If someone sold theres afterwards i dont see any problems, if someone wants the full respect or whatever they would keep there minipet and show it off that way as for titles aswell.
The armour i dont mind at all but ive heard it gives a random character thats not gender....is there a way of making the monument look exactly like your character

Sjeng

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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24 Aug 2007 at 11:09 - 205

omg.. you CAN'T display PvE titles!?!?!?

that's it. HoM is now completely worthless to me.

What were they thinking making it character based anyway... You are able to show your progress to friends, but do you really think my friends will want to visit the monuments of all my 12 characters??? I don't think so. If I wanted to see someones achievements (or my own), I wanted to see them all gathered in ONE big monument, with ALL my pets, minipets, PvE titles, unique weapons and armours. Sort them out so all your character's names are in there, with their achievements linked to them, but still all in one place.

I also want to be able to keep switching my minipets over characters. Make em account customized, not character customized...

You wanted to create something to make all the hardcore players happier? You just succeeded in making em all furious... again... way to go Anet.

One word of advice: make it account based before GW:EN launches.

Chieftain Heavyhand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

wpg

24 Aug 2007 at 11:14 - 206

The mini pet thing is disappointing to say the least.

From how it is described the tradability of mini pets just went out the window. I thought that was the whole drive behind them, to have some fun thing to trade around. So what if someone gives their pets to a friend to put in the HoM. So what if people trade around to get the complete set of pets. What really disappoints me is that I can't even share them with my own characters.

I really think Anet needs to rethink the tying of mini pets to one character. It would be different if any mini pet you ever owned would show and those were in the HoM but to have to physically place one in and have it forever customized to that character is a big let down.

With this implementation you guys have killed the tradability of one of the things in this game that should be most traded. People should be able to "share" them with their friends, share them with all of the characters in an account, trade them for other pets after putting them into their HoM, sell them after putting them into their HoM, or what ever else they want to do with them.

A-net please readjust this after this weekend or durring.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

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24 Aug 2007 at 11:17 - 207

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I don't want to derail the convo, but the miniatures were not principally designed with "market" in mind.

Yes, there is a market. Yes, we care about that and we take care to protect it. But if we mess with the market, that's less critical, I believe, than messing with people's enjoyment of an element that, for some, is a very important part of the game.

So I'd say "maintaining people's enjoyment of minis" is higher in importance than "maintaining the marketability of said item"

But I'm not the one who decides, so your points are well taken.

so wasn't taken for market in mind . .. then why make some mini pets in such limited numbers that you just know they're going to be sold?

heck, so far I've spent around 4000 ectos on my mini pet collection over the past 15 months and I'm still missing 5 of them.

I really hope there's some way to share the minis across other characters if we do indeed add them to the HoM. As it is now, they're just going to stay in my storage and not even go near the HoM.

Chieftain Heavyhand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

wpg

24 Aug 2007 at 11:28 - 208

I'm not talking about the sell ability of mini pets but the ability of players to trade them.

For example I have am mini Shiro but I'd like a mini Titan. My friend has a Titan and wants a Shiro. We both want the complete set in our HoM. If it wasn't like it is now we could trade after adding the mini to HoM. With things the way they are now that is impossible.

The ability of players to be able to freely trade amongst themselves would be a more enjoyable than the current system. If they were left uncustomized they would become like trading cards. I have this mini I don't really like buy if I want the whole set I should put it in and trade it to someone else who needs it for another mini I don't have.

That is what I'm talking about I could care less about the mini pet market.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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24 Aug 2007 at 11:49 - 209

Nice, so this is how Anet rewards players buying character slots.

wilderness

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24 Aug 2007 at 11:55 - 210

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Originally Posted by Chieftain Heavyhand

For example I have am mini Shiro but I'd like a mini Titan. My friend has a Titan and wants a Shiro. We both want the complete set in our HoM. If it wasn't like it is now we could trade after adding the mini to HoM. With things the way they are now that is impossible.

As Gale stated, the customization was implemented to keep players from doing exactly that: swapping mini pets about until you have the complete set in your HoM removing any sense of achievement from the mini-pet trophy room entirely.

HoM should be for items that are customized ONLY or there is no point to it at all. If I could just borrow every item from friends to fill my space, what would be the point of it?

However, I agree that armor sets should display exactly the ones you own; mini customization should be tied to your account name, not character; include PvE titles (their omission would be ridiculous) and there should be a trophy case with a certain amount of free space in which to put any item you wish. This way we could all display our favorite weapons + their stats and others players would get a proper sense of our achievements.

I wouldn't worry about this too much, most of the changes suggested here seem to be quite obviously for the better and half of the reason for the preview is for Anet to browse feedback and revise aspects. I'm sure we'll see improvements soon.

Gj so far though, I'm very impressed with what I've seen of EoTN. It's by no means perfect, but we have the base of something very cool here. Hats of to Anet I say

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

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24 Aug 2007 at 11:58 - 211

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

im speaking strictly about passing on stuff, not adding to hom.

the idea of taking a mini-pet and customizing it to an account is fine and dandy with me (it should be the same with weapons also...imo).

However the problem comes when you get to GW2.

You used 1 Kuunavang to unlock Kuunavang for all 10 characters (under your proposal).

Would the GW2 descendant get 1 Kuunavang or 10? If theres only going to be one copy passed along anyway, whats the point in adding it to the other 9 HoMs?

Uh oh, that made sense...

Even so, why reduce something that any character could use into only something one of your characters can? And for some unspecified bonus we have no idea about???

The Herbalizer

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Join Date: Jul 2005

24 Aug 2007 at 12:01 - 212

I dont have time to read the thread due to rl commitments.

Are PVE titles allowed? What about KOABD etc?

Is it only GWEN weapons which will be displayed in HOM? Not Proph, Factions, NF?

Can you have more than one HOM? So have multiple HOM's for your chars?

Thanks

silara_jorinset

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

AoFT

E/Me

24 Aug 2007 at 12:05 - 213

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Originally Posted by Shai Lee

My thoughts on HoM: Account vs character based

Everyone who puts hard work into something likes to either display that hard work or put their name/emblem/tag on their work. It isn't narcissistic, it's pride and happiness in their sense of accomplishment.

For example (my assumptions):
- an artist will either put their name or registered mark on their work(s) and if they have multiple pieces, they'll display/showcase them in a gallery or even a book (ie "Art of Guild Wars" books found in collector's editions of the game)
- a car collector will typically have the vehicles housed in the same place/showroom and they need not ever be driven, some like them simply for looks and nothing more
- baseball card/ball/glove collection which may or may not be signed by the player(s) also displayed together if one owns multiples
- collectors of pennies, dolls, action figures, rocks, shells, etc like to usually keep their 'collections' or accomplishments in one place to display
- collector's of GW memorabilia would obviously display it in one spot and not switch between displaying different items on the wall/bookcase etc if they have multiples

Why? Why would someone that owns or creates all these things think of displaying them from the same place? Simply because they're proud, that's why. There is something that they love so they go out and get it. Something that makes them happy, so they go out and find it. Time matters not. Perhaps money matters not. All that matters is that they -enjoy- it and like to share that enjoyment with others. Not piece by piece, but all at once, their great joy.

Some may ask, what is the difference of having individual HoM's vs. an account based HoM? My response, if someone were to view only one of my character's HoM's, then they would only see a fraction of the joy I've had in playing Guild Wars. Some characters are more bare than others in achievements, that's because some are older/younger and another reason is because I like variety. I have 10 characters at the moment and I like to play them all for different reasons. Mostly, it depends on how I feel. What motivates me that day, what interests me, or something I simply enjoy. Seeing the accomplishments of all of my characters in one place would give me a sense of pride for my accomplishments of 2+ years, happiness, it would keep me motivated and eager to play. I can easily see which character(s) have more things accomplished and thus, try to catch up with those that hold less accomplishments. A personal motivator, in that regard. If the HoM was account based, it would be easier to hop between multiple friends HoM's as well, that is another motivator. Besides people having self-pride in accomplishments, there is also our competitive spirit between friends. Maybe friends starting a title at the same time and having fun seeing which can attain it first.

I like to gain titles to show as an accomplishment. More than those though, I believe I love my mini-pets. Some people say they're totally useless so why waste inventory space. I collect and love them simply because I think they're cute and they make me happy. Asking me to chose which mini-pet to be customized to a certain character and I wouldn't be able to, I'd have to say then...that you will never see my mini-pets displayed in the HoM's, so it's best you just erase that feature for me. I guess my mini-pets will remain in my Xunlai Storage forever.

I believe that the HoM should be account based because it is a reflection of my pride and joy in my Guild Wars accomplishments or things that I love about this game. Please note, that I am not stating anything to do with descendants inheriting any or all titles/items/weapons/armor etc of all of my current characters. I merely speak on how I would prefer things to be displayed, and that is for all character achievements to be housed in one HoM's. That would make me happy, aid in my motivation to accomplish more, and keep me playful and competitive with others. Basically because if we aren't motivated or don't enjoy something, we tend to..well..stop doing it. Those are just some of my preliminary thoughts on the matter.

Superb post which says it all really. Looking at Gailes response it seems anet don't want an account based monument for fear of people being able to create a horde of "super characters" with 10 million title bonuses in gw2..
Why not have an account based hall but allow players to select x number of titles from their hall to carry when creating a character? This would allow people to create 'direct descendants' if they so wanted by creating a character directly using the titles of a GW1 character, or allow others to create characters how they wish from their title tracks. Items/weapons could simply be limited by profession (need a warrior for any warrior weapon/armour bonus).

Chieftain Heavyhand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

wpg

24 Aug 2007 at 12:17 - 214

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Originally Posted by wilderness

As Gale stated, the customization was implemented to keep players from doing exactly that: swapping mini pets about until you have the complete set in your HoM removing any sense of achievement from the mini-pet trophy room entirely.

What "achievement" you get them as birthday presents there are only 3 or 4 that were given as rewards and the rest were promo gifts.

As far as the pokemon reference, well so what. They are/were a tradable item to collect now people will not want to trade around highly desired minis because then they will not be able to add them to their set.

Like I said A-net has killed the tradability of minis. Which affects nothing for you anti "pokemon" traders.

Chieftain Heavyhand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

wpg

24 Aug 2007 at 12:18 - 215

All I'm saying is that I would like to keep minis tradable.

ca_aok

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Xen of Onslaught

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24 Aug 2007 at 12:20 - 216

I dunno if this has been mentioned yet, but what about those of us who enjoy having mixed armor sets? For instance my Warrior has 15K Kurz Chest+Pants mixed with 15K SS Gloves+Boots and a 15K Ascalon Helm.... And yet I can't display this armor set at all, and would be forced to buy the other pieces of the sets to register the fact that he has these armor pieces at all... And he's not my only mixed armor character either. I would hope this could be remedied before the game's release.

Rothen Kithkanan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Between a rock and a hard place

Pah, who needs guilds?

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24 Aug 2007 at 12:24 - 217

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Originally Posted by Chieftain Heavyhand

All I'm saying is that I would like to keep minis tradable.

Dont put them in HoM then

And i might be wrong, but Anet have not gone on record and said what we get for filling up HoM with our current equipment etc. I get the impression that the large majority of people on here have taken it upon themselves to assume that they will get mega bonuses when starting GW2. It could be that you'll actually get naff all that aids you in gameplay terms.... or if you do (and here's a random idea) you'll only get it when you reach a certain stage of the game ( a game thats still 2+ years away so lets all calm down a bit eh?) when it doesnt give you any benefit over the rest of the players.

just my opinion but then i'm bored as hell at work

wilderness

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24 Aug 2007 at 12:33 - 218

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Originally Posted by Chieftain Heavyhand

What "achievement" you get them as birthday presents there are only 3 or 4 that were given as rewards and the rest were promo gifts.

As far as the pokemon reference, well so what. They are/were a tradable item to collect now people will not want to trade around highly desired minis because then they will not be able to add them to their set.

Like I said A-net has killed the tradability of minis. Which affects nothing for you anti "pokemon" traders.

What "achievement"? The achievement of obtaining a complete set by earning enough gold to buy them and having the patience to trade until your set is complete.

If you want your items to stand testament in your hall, then why should you be able to trade them afterwards?

MAYBE there should be the option to un-customized your pet that also removes its trophy from your hall. That way if you decide you want to sell you can without retaining a trophy for something you don't own any more.

Chieftain Heavyhand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

wpg

24 Aug 2007 at 12:43 - 219

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Originally Posted by Rothen Kithkanan

Dont put them in HoM then

Not planning on it

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Originally Posted by Rothen Kithkanan

And i might be wrong, but Anet have not gone on record and said what we get for filling up HoM with our current equipment etc. I get the impression that the large majority of people on here have taken it upon themselves to assume that they will get mega bonuses when starting GW2. It could be that you'll actually get naff all that aids you in gameplay terms.... or if you do (and here's a random idea) you'll only get it when you reach a certain stage of the game ( a game thats still 2+ years away so lets all calm down a bit eh?) when it doesnt give you any benefit over the rest of the players.

just my opinion but then i'm bored as hell at work

Don't care about GW2, don't think because I have complete collection of minis I'll be a god in GW2 either.

Chieftain Heavyhand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

wpg

24 Aug 2007 at 12:46 - 220

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Originally Posted by wilderness

What "achievement"? The achievement of obtaining a complete set by earning enough gold to buy them and having the patience to trade until your set is complete.
If you want your items to stand testament in your hall, then why should you be able to trade them afterwards?

MAYBE there should be the option to un-customized your pet that also removes its trophy from your hall. That way if you decide you want to sell you can without retaining a trophy for something you don't own any more.

There in lies the rub. If everyone wants to put them in their HoM then there will be none to trade. Trade is the word here not sell or buy.

So if I delete the mini for starage space will it still be in my HoM and if so how is that diffeerent from trading, selling or giving it away.

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

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24 Aug 2007 at 12:46 - 221

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

I dont have time to read the thread due to rl commitments.

NP

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Are PVE titles allowed? What about KOABD etc?

The titles are character based...so KOABD should be ok but they just added new levels to it

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Is it only GWEN weapons which will be displayed in HOM? Not Proph, Factions, NF?

Only GWEN weapons displayed

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Can you have more than one HOM? So have multiple HOM's for your chars?

Thanks

You have a HOM for each character..and only those characters titles and accomplishments go into it.

Also minipets are customized to the character that puts them in the HoM so if your ranger as a rare panda...and u put it in your HoM for the ranger...it will be customized to that ranger like weapons and armor. (no other characters can ever use it)

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

24 Aug 2007 at 12:50 - 222

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Originally Posted by countesscorpula

Because maybe, just maybe, you'd like to play more than one character in GW2. Right now, I can pass my mini fire imp from my Ele to my Dervish, and either can use. Why then would we not allow my future Ele and my Future Dervish the same opportunity. It's something I have on MY account. I can pass it using my ACCOUNT STORAGE, that is shared among ALL my characters. If storage can be account wide, i don't see why HoM can be account wide, and as a result allowing GW2 characters to share things like GW1 chars do.

What does having a MINI-PET unlocked multiple times have to do with PLAYING your CHARACTER?

If HoM was account or character specific DOESNT MATTER.

Dont you guys understand that? What matters is how it functionally
behaves in GW2.

These are the questions we need to ask because THAT is what dictates HOW we play. The manifestation of HoM is irrelevant!

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

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24 Aug 2007 at 13:00 - 223

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

What does having a MINI-PET unlocked multiple times have to do with PLAYING your CHARACTER?

If HoM was account or character specific DOESNT MATTER.

Dont you guys understand that? What matters is how it functionally
behaves in GW2.

These are the questions we need to ask because THAT is what dictates HOW we play. The manifestation of HoM is irrelevant!

Very true about the last part. We don't know WHAT it'll do in GW2, it's the most vital part.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

24 Aug 2007 at 13:00 - 224

Can I just be maybe the first person to say two things.

1) I agree happily with the character-based HOM. This is not a surprise to me and meets my expectations. I expect to have multiple characters in GW2 and I expect each one to take 'lineage' from a GW1 equivalent. I am not disappointed by this aspect of the HOM. I do not think it should be account-based.

2) Come on guys, this is hardly new is it. I was one of the people complaining many moons ago that KOABD, PKM and IVI pushed us down a single-character rather than multi-character route. It's been this way for some time. I did call for things like Treasure Hunter to be account-based (as opening even 1000 chests is insane grind) but this was ignored. We've been in a character-based world for many months now. Why anyone should be surprised at HOM being character-based is beyond me.

I will make GW2 characters with the same names as my GW1 characters, and I expect each to inherit the character-based and account-based achievements of their 'ancestor'.

For me, an account-based HOM would reduce the individualisation I have built around each of my main toons.

And.... I don't just play one character either. I have one where I'm going for Legendary Vanquisher, another where I'm trying to max Wisdom, another where I already have Legendary Suvivor and nearly Legendary Skill Hunter.

I'm happy to play multiple characters and strive for each one to have some decent Legendary title to define them as an individual. If this was all mushed together and merged into an account-level summary this would really disappoint me. We should be pleased that A-Net is giving us character-level granularity like this.

Having said this of course....the 'lobe' idea sounds pretty decent. The example of the 'guided tour' with loads of character switching is pretty spot on.

WhiteLightHealing

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

We Farm Your [ECTOs]

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24 Aug 2007 at 13:06 - 225

I am a PvE player not PVP, i do PVP but after i got to my lvl 3 mighty hero i stop, cause all i needed was the, popup animals thing.

Anet has always been favor pvp than pve. I mean rare stuff drops from chest, and people make ton of cash of it. if u just win one, and one rare item drops, u can become rich and famous. I have only win twice in HOH. and a crystalline drops, req 13, that can get you atleast 50-100 ectos, inscrip.

The HOM is really dissappoting
1. CAnt display all the process u make.
EX. all Elite skill cap, All protector title, Legendary carto. ETC.
2. One thing that upset with me was, mini pet. My mini mallyx now can only be use on my war, cant be use any other character.
3. Showing armor is very dissapoiting.--Why dont they jsut show a blank face statue and put your armor up there. or a picture of your amor instead of random armor up there. My wars has FOW and it show rit and assain up there. ( FIXED anet)- Who ever create this thing in the HOM amor stuff ( BAKA).
4. The rank have to be high to display-( gay) why cant Anet just create a system where the HOM automatic up date your title. display mighty hero lvl3 at HOM when you reach lvl 4, it update automaticly.
5. They should create a trophy- Like u are legendary guardian- lengendary cartographer- Lendary elite cap.

ANET FIX IT PLZ. WE ARE PVE player not PVP.

more peopleS are PVE PLAYER than PVP.

My spelling/grammar kinda suxky.You guy dont have to listen to what i said. This is my opinion.

wilderness

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24 Aug 2007 at 13:07 - 226

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain Heavyhand

There in lies the rub. If everyone wants to put them in their HoM then there will be none to trade. Trade is the word here not sell or buy.

So you mean trade when you get bored of your pet and fancy something new?

I wouldn't worry, new players have birthdays every day so pets will continuously be produced for your trading needs. Mallyx can always be found via coffers and if you're worried about the limited minipets rewarded for tournaments/contests, then you should have entered and won one/saved enough by now to buy one.

Simple.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

24 Aug 2007 at 13:07 - 227

I really think that people are just ticked that they cant exhibit EVERYTHING theyve done across ALL their characters in ONE HoM, as well as the idea of LOCKING their mini-pets to one character.

I understand this disappointment completely.

HOWEVER, its not a valid reason to change anything, since that is functionally a seperate entity from how inheritance behave, which is the REAL purpose of HoM, which we have very little info about.

Showing off is seperate from Inheriting/Unlocking.

LONGA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Thailand

Agot

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24 Aug 2007 at 13:13 - 228

Ouch I have to complete a set armor just to make it showable.My Necro is wearing Luxon,Kurzick,Canthan 15K imagine how much money I need to complete these set.Most of my others char also wearing pieces from a lest 2 sets. Imagine money needed to complete them.

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24 Aug 2007 at 13:29 - 229

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Originally Posted by LONGA

Ouch I have to complete a set armor just to make it showable.My Necro is wearing Luxon,Kurzick,Canthan 15K imagine how much money I need to complete these set.Most of my others char also wearing pieces from a lest 2 sets. Imagine money needed to complete them.

That's not a massive issure. Most 15k sets cost around 80-90k which can be farmed in a matter of days if you know what you're doing/have the time.

If you don't have enough time to play, then either put more aside or don't complain...

Once again: if you want the reward, put in the effort!

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

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24 Aug 2007 at 13:31 - 230

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Originally Posted by Gli

Frankly, I don't care what my GW2 characters are going to inherit. I just want an account-wide HoM. Because it'll be more fun than a bunch of halls with a handful of monuments each.

The name of the character who contributed each monument could even be listed and GW2 inheritance could still be tied to inidividual characters.

Those are exactly my thoughts. I don't care if my entire ACCOUNT can't even get me a 2-3 damage sword in GW2. I just don't want to have to go around changing characters to say "Here's my assassin with Survivor! Give me a minute and I'll show you my monk with all protector titles, the armour of my warrior, my elementalist with sweet tooth and drunkard... NO! DON'T LEAVE! I HAVE ANOTHER 8 CHARACTERS TO GO!"

yeah_hi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

24 Aug 2007 at 13:38 - 231

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkobra

NO! DON'T LEAVE! I HAVE ANOTHER 8 CHARACTERS TO GO!"

Haha!

That kinda hits the nail on the head for me too. I couldn't really give a hoot about zomg teh minipets or suchlike; instead much like having ten bloody sets of heroes across each of my characters (such a nightmare trying to keep track of who has what, lol), I'm really disappointed at the prospect of having 10 half-empty HoMs as well.

It just seemed to make sense to me that all my achievements would be in one place.

LONGA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Thailand

Agot

N/

24 Aug 2007 at 13:44 - 232

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilderness

That's not a massive issure. Most 15k sets cost around 80-90k which can be farmed in a matter of days if you know what you're doing/have the time.

Sadly I don't farm and most of my moneys go to skills and signet of captures.

Hells its time to decide planing on the armor of my 6 PvE cahrs.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

24 Aug 2007 at 14:04 - 233

Its just a physical manifestation of your "H" button really.

What i care most about is how it works with GW2.

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

24 Aug 2007 at 14:05 - 234

I guess that is one place I will NOT be setting foot in.

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

24 Aug 2007 at 14:16 - 235

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

Its just a physical manifestation of your "H" button really.

What i care most about is how it works with GW2.

Same here.

The lack of PVE titles in there has left me disinclined to bother to get past PKM, which I've nearly hit anyway. Other than that I can live with the rest of it.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

24 Aug 2007 at 14:18 - 236

I just don't get it. I figured the HoM would immortalise my main GW1 character, so her "descendants" in GW2 could at least SEE her, and the items/titles she achieved. Some of the achievements or whatever might confer some benefits, but those that don't... well I thought they would at least be VISIBLE.

But it seems that is not the case. I don't see anywhere where my ACTUAL character appears in there, and it all seems so "impersonal". It's just a broom cupboard full of "stuff"... stuff that really, could belong to anybody (if you see what I mean).

Why can't we take snapshots of our characters, with dyed/mixed/non-prestige armour, our favourite weapon, and a list of all titles achieved (including non-maxed)? If they don't confer any benefits, that's fine - I just want to SEE them in GW2.

Isfit

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Vienna

D/

24 Aug 2007 at 14:21 - 237

Monument of
Fellowship: Crap, why can I only display Heroes when they have an other armor than the standard armor?
Devotion: Crap, make minipets Account-Customized, otherwise I will NEVER put ANY Minipet on this Monument
Honour: Wtf? Only PvP-Titles, and this so high? Did you completely got mad?
Valour: The only Monument that I dont have anything to complain about.
Resilience: Why the hell cant I see my Char there?

Just my 2 Cents, hope A-Net reads it.

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

24 Aug 2007 at 14:27 - 238

Quote:

Fellowship: Crap, why can I only display Heroes when they have an other armor than the standard armor?

I couldn't get that one to do anything, and both my ele's Jin and Dunkoro are wearing Elite Sunspear.

The only reason I'd want a monument of Koss is so I could kick it repeatedly.

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

24 Aug 2007 at 14:34 - 239

Sum it up. HoM: one of the best ideas ever in GW, with one of the worst implementations ever. At least it's what it's looking like so far.

free_fall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

24 Aug 2007 at 14:35 - 240

OK, I'm a bit confused since I haven't really been following this whole GW:EN/HoM/GW2 thing very closely, so maybe someone can clarify this for me.

Is creating a HoM REQUIRED for playing through the GW:EN PvE or is it an OPTION for those intending to purchase GW2?

If it's optional then I guess I'm safe since, at least from what I've read about it at this point, GW2 doesn't interest me in the least.

If it's required to play thru GW:EN PvE, then I guess I'm screwed since I have lots of chars (and, hence, lots of heroes) that I trade weapons between, weapons that I'd prefer not to be "customized" for a single char obviously. And if that's the case, I'll take my 2 (unopened) pre-order packs back to EB Games for a refund.