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Originally Posted by TabascoSauce
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I have to disagree on this idea that the original premise of GWs was to play the storyline, complete pve and then move onto pvp.
Ive played this game from the start and i played with the full intention of doing pve and never setting foot into pvp. I dont like it and I knew that from the start.
But you have also missed the major point that all these title connected skills are optional and only there to add a bit more interest to the gameplay.
You can complete all 3 campaigns and the expansion without using SS, LB, Luxon/Kuzack or GWEN pve only skills. They dont give any advantage or make the game easier or harder.
Ive never used any of them and I doubt I will (except LB gaze obviously).
You also fail to mention that these pve skills tend to be overpowered and you dont need to max the title out to get huge benefits from them.
I am only on rank 7 Norn and I already gain a +85 health bonus when I display it. That isnt maxed out, but its damn nice.
I dont love the idea of Anet adding all these title connected pve only skills, because its unrealistic that I will ever max the luxon/kuzack or GWEN race titles, and I seriously doubt I will ever get the full benefit.
But do I sit here crying and winging?
No, because I have no intention of using them. Ive managed 2 years without them, so... boohoo!
As for the grind to get armor, because its connected to the GWEN titles and requires rank 5. In factions you have to have more faction on the side whos armor you want, and you have to earn faction to trade it rare materials. In Nightfall you are expected to farm or trade for dozens of rare materials for vabbian armor. FOW armor requires you either spend hours farming rare materials or you trade huge amounts of farmed gold for them.
That to me would equate to factions, vabbian and FOW armor being a grind.
Yet do you see me complaining?
No! My ranger actually owns luxon armor and my elemental has vabbian armor. It took me ages to get the materials and I am in no way rich, but it looked nice.
But I have no intention of getting any future characters luxon or vabbian armor because it is a grind. I also have no intention of ever getting any characters FOW armor because its an even greater grind.
Do I make a thread complaining about that? Do I start a fuss complaining I want luxon, vabbian and FOW armor made easier to aquire because I feel its a grind to get the materials?
No.. because im realistic that I wont ever get it, and I do actually like alot of those armor sets.
I currently own Norn armor because during the preview event I did grind to rank 7 when that was required. But after playing the actual storyline for 3 days I am now on rank 4 for all the others. I also happen to live the vanguard ele armor and I would love to get it and I only need another 10k points.
But ive decided not to because I would also need materials and gold. Im realistic I wont get it.
I also notice how no one complains about the prestigage armor requiring 250 of each materials. I spent 2 days standing in an outpost in GWEN buying Superb Char Carvings for 100g to get my ninja mask and I love it and its dyed white.
But I also love the destroyer gloves, but I have no way of making the 250k needed to buy all 250 cores needed. I could farm them, but I would consider that grind.
So why is no one complaining about having to grind and farm 250 cores for destroyer gloves? why is no one complaining that they will cost around 250k to buy them if you trade?
250k to buy 250 cores is well out of reach of ALOT of players (average price being 1k from what I see), including me. I dont have the amount of gold, and I think its a grind to be expected to farm that gold or trade that gold or farm those cores.
But do I complain? No. I realistic that I wont get them as are most other poor or mid-way players.
But people complain about the armor?
So from what I understand....
...players are willing to spend hours either farming destroyer cores or trading for them, but their not willing to spend hours earning 10k more points to reach rank 5 (because you can reach rank 4 doing quests)?
Does that seem hypercrital and make it very obvious that the vast number of people who complaining about this, are the rich players who are used to just walking over to a crafter and getting what they want without any effort!
If people are willing to farm 250 materials for prestiage armor, or ectos and shards for FOW, or rubies for vabbian or shards for Luxon or Kuzack....
...then how is that any different to farming reputation points?
This isnt people complaining about grind in general. This is people complaining about grind, when it doesnt suit them and they cant get around it.
They cant get around this grind because you cany buy it, unlike shards and rubies and ectos and cores!
If you truly want this game to be equal and fair and have everything within reach of both the casual AND the hardcore players, then you need to make armor like FOW and prestiage easily within reach of both casual and hardcore players.
Your casual player wont get FOW armor or destroyer gloves, because they require hours of farming or trading for rare materials and large amounts of gold.
Yet I dont see anyone complaining about how FOW armor or prestige armor is unfair and out of reach of the casual gamers!
You cant talk about grind being a bad thing in GuildWars, when your all willing to sit back and accept its ok to have grind in other aspects of the game.
If you accept grind is ok for...
FOW armor,
Vabbian armor,
Luxon/Kuzack armor,
prestiage armor,
Elite hero armor,
DOA hero armor,
DOA weapons and
Exclusive content in elite zones,
Elite zones in general,
Needing certain sunspear to continue in NF,
Needing 10k luxon and kuzack to continue in Factions,
Gold farming in general,
Material farming in general
and others.
...then you are being a complete hypercrit by complaing about the need for rank 5 for armor, weapons and consumable in GWEN.
I expect alot of players who are complaining about this own FOW armor, or you dont mind some of those things listed above. You cant complain about grind when it suits you, and still accept it and ignore it elsewhere.
As for this idea that because you paid for GWEN you should get armor straight away...
1) There was a preview weekend. If you were daft enough to order the game BEFORE you tried it then that is your own fault.
2) You didnt buy JUST the armor. You bought the ENTIRE game and its mechanics, including the storyline which you PAID to play through. If you then get it home and complain that you have to actually play the story and earn points to get armor, you havent got a leg to stand on.
You had an opportunity to "try before you buy", and you knowingly bought the game knowing it contained a story that had to be played out in order to get access to different areas and equipment. You cant ask for a refund just because you dont like how those aspects are unlocked.
Did you give input to the design process?
Are you on the Anet job roster and are you paid a salary by Anet?
Did you personally ask them to make sure all armor didnt require ranks before it was released?
Did someone miss-lead you into thinking the armor system was different before you bought GWEN?
Did Anet state it was going to be different?
You bought that game knowing it contained more then just new armor and weapons, and you have to put up with that! You cant complain just because it isnt how
you wanted it.