Wow was Factions so bad?

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Factions was a lot of fun with AB and new pvp games you could play. Though i'd have to say traveler is 100% right about it being so boxed in. There is such a HUGE part of the map that cannot be explored, in proph there where zone you didnt have to pass through or go to for a quest.

The whole afflicted thing made me think I was playing some weird ass version of halo

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

I just went back to Factions to try and get some elite skills. Running along to get the elite, getting close, oh----> those gates!

Now must go back and redo it as Luxon. They could have taken out all the gates once you finsih the game. After all the endless mazes of the city, the gates, just really pull my chain.

Other than that, the armour is great, the scenery is amazing, and the monsters are probably the most imaginative in the game.

Chik N Nuggets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

calgary, alberta, canada

The Crimson Knighthood [CRIM]

W/

im just starting to like factions.. =\

my rit is level 17 and still kickin so i dont think its a waste of time.. =\

=DNC=Trucker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

TLA

Me/

Fedex-ing around Kaineng City put me off. You have no idea how exctied I was to get into pongmei valley and see some decent scenery (no offense but ugly brown building after another is boring and depressing)

mazey vorstagg

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

IMO Factions was the best campaign, and is still the best campaign.

I love the environments, the focused plot, the focused movement from one area to another and the fact that there are loads of quests.

When I went into Kaineng Center with 2 quests and came out with 20 I was very pleased!

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by bungusmaximus
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OK, factions voice acting is horrendous, agreed...
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Is there a chance to listen to the English voices? I only have the German voices and they are really crap!!!

Caged Fury

Caged Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

I just spent the last week or so playing through Factions with a new character and enjoyed it. I must admit that I did avoid most of the sideline Fedex quests, they bored me the first time round. And popping over to Elona to get heroes probably helped with the enjoyment too.

Although the city slum area had a very depressing feel to it, it made a nice (in a strange way) change from the usual sunny, happy, open spaces. Running around the city can be annoying at times, but I didn't find it that bad.

The things I dislike about Factions are the time based missions. I like to take my time, maybe mess around during missions, and still be able to get the highest reward. Glad that NF have optional bonus in missions. Also, I dislike the locked gates/outpost. I remember playing Prophecies as a newbie and being able to leave an outpost, pick any direction, go and explore, popping into new outposts along the way. I was disappointed that I couldn't do this in Factions.

For me, Prophecies is by far the best and Factions level pegging with NF. No idea about EotN, yet to get that.

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

I strongly prefer Factions to Prophecies.

The lands are prettier, I'm not interested in sequence breaking, so the gates don't bother me, and I find the storyline better than Prophecies.

The only bad thing is Kaineng City. But that's only for a short while.

Maybe I'm just weird...

leprekan

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

Sorry, Yes Factions was that bad. The Asian ghetto theme complete with homeless people .. enough said. Not to mention that GW sucks at looking UP and DOWN and Anet hasnt figured out what a pain in the ass it is when they make maps that require it. Or how about it taking 2 days to get into Jade quarry so you can map it and finish the legendary cartography title! That was one of my favorites .. had to fill both sides with friends to finish the title. Clue police Anet it is a dead chapter make some areas explorable or lower percent needed for 100% cartography.

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

Most of the voice acting in Factions are awful, danika and shiro are on top of the crap list. Apart from that, not much else is really wrong with the game.

-Pluto-

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

US

Diversionary Tactics [DT]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
Is there a chance to listen to the English voices? I only have the German voices and they are really crap!!!
There should be a way to change the voices to whatever language you want in the options. I think they even changed it so you can pick

I should probably make the voices some language I don't understand for Factions, actually. Then I can be like all those people watching Anime and raising their noses to English dubs, even though their complete lack of understanding for the language puts them in a highly dubious position to judge the original content anyway. I bet those Italian dubs will sound pretty good to me if I have no idea how they should sound. It's going to be amazing!

Edit: also, Etta, you need to include Togo in that list. Hearing all three of those in one cut-scene would probably be enough to make me want to punt my cat out a window.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mazey vorstagg
IMO Factions was the best campaign, and is still the best campaign.
Same here.
Love that campaign.
Probably also nostalgia because Factions came out right at the moment when I was liking GW the most. And the Ritualist was just insane back then.
I absolutely love that place. It doesn't matter how many times I play though it - it is just fun.
Although remove Arborstone. Remove, remove, remove! Falling rocks, the need to carry an item AND Danika having this INSANE love for getting stuck just make it a pain in the ass! A serious pain!
Arborstone is a bloody disaster!

Kale Ironfist

Kale Ironfist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
Is there a chance to listen to the English voices? I only have the German voices and they are really crap!!!
Set language to English and audio to automatic OR set audio to English. Then get into a cinematic with voices.

Have fun with Countess Danika zu Heltzer.

Amadei

Amadei

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Blinkie Ponie Armie

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk
Is there a chance to listen to the English voices? I only have the German voices and they are really crap!!!
The English voices are really crap too, overall. I wouldn't recommend hearing it in English :P

Edit: I love Factions a lot and I particularly love Kaineng City, one of the most memorable and alive areas in all three campaigns. Kudos to whoever designed it

$neekie

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

R/

I started out GW in Factions and wenn i bought profhessies it was a big let down.Sooo slow...(getting better now finally reached the desert), did like presearing..........have to see about the rest,so far its a pain going tru profh.

In Factions there are far more mobs,more action,lesswalking around,less corners to get stuck in, the coopmisions are better(love the masters timelimit and no need to read 2 wikipages about what the bonus ect is).I consider Factions my home in GW, even with al the emoes in the monastary. Im in GW just to kill stuff wich is easier and faster in Factions.

Factions fan,mzzls

nightwatchman

nightwatchman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

I liked factions, but it took ANet a year to develop it in GW1.

I don't want to wait an extra year for GW2, so if they decide not to include it at day 1, I'm not too upset.

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by $neekie
I started out GW in Factions and wenn i bought profhessies it was a big let down.Sooo slow...(getting better now finally reached the desert), did like presearing..........have to see about the rest,so far its a pain going tru profh.

In Factions there are far more mobs,more action,lesswalking around,less corners to get stuck in, the coopmisions are better(love the masters timelimit and no need to read 2 wikipages about what the bonus ect is).I consider Factions my home in GW, even with al the emoes in the monastary. Im in GW just to kill stuff wich is easier and faster in Factions.

Factions fan,mzzls
Hmmm that this thread is still alive.
But yeah factions is my home to in GW.
I agree on al the points you made today.

NLaterzzzz Factions fan to

Joe Hostile

Joe Hostile

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

Redmond, WA

Rebel Rising [rawr]

"In Cantha, the successor of emperor Kisu defeats the warring Kurzick and Luxon factions and reunites Cantha under one banner. Under his strong leadership, Cantha forces all non-human races off their lands and fortifies its borders, becoming much more isolationist than before. The few Canthans who oppose the new empire are exiled to Kryta. When Arah resurfaces, the Corsair (pirates from Nightfall who used to pray on trade vessels) ships that used to take refuge in that archipelago are corrupted by the dragon to form a deadly fleet of black ships that seal off all trade routes between Cantha and the other continents. At the start of the Guild Wars 2 story, there has been no contact with mainland Canthans for a generation."

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Factions was always my favorite.

The beginning was a little rough, but once I settled into the groove and got to Vizunah square, and I was having a lot of fun.

bpphantom

bpphantom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Canukistan

The Eyes of Ashtabula [Eyes]

Quote:
Originally Posted by AuraofMana
Factions introduced Assassins, and Assassins = Ninjas. So if you are playing a female Assassin, that = Ninja chick which = awesome^2.
Except that they look like skinny little boys.

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amadei
The English voices are really crap too, overall. I wouldn't recommend hearing it in English :P
I am convinced that nothing beats the German Vizu!

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

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I don't understand why people are so bent out of shape about the look and feel of Kaineng City. It was supposed to look like that. The claustrophobic little streets and cramped, filthy shacks were supposed to give the atmosphere of a dangerous, unpleasant city that had plenty of problems even before the runaway plague started turning its citizens into freaky berserkers.

Cantha is supposed to be in turmoil. Between the Am Fah and Jade Brotherhood tearing the city apart and the Luxons and Kurzicks tearing the country apart, not to mention the bloated bureaucracy holding back any real progress, it's already in deep trouble. Add Shiro's return to the mix, and they need a hero. Namely, you.

With that said, the locked gates are irritating. The faction farming requirement would be WAY worse if you couldn't store it and let your entire account take advantage of one character's work, but still. I fought my way to the hatchery only to find that the idiot at the gate won't let me in until I farm over 5000 more faction for a group I don't support, then save a bunch of stupid turtles in an escort quest. My main character's already a Protector of Cantha; I just want my little moa mini dammit.

None of the voice acting in GW is really all that great, so to me Factions didn't stand out. Vizu actually pissed me off way more than Togo, though. I don't understand all the Togo hate when there's "You can't kill me, Shiro! I'M ALREADY... DEAD!" is in the game.

It's not my favorite, but I don't get why everyone's all "WORST. CAMPAIGN. EVER." about it. The enemies are cool, the storyline's not so bad even if you see the twist coming from a mile away, some of the greens and skills are awesome, and I LOVE the Rit class. Plus, it's got some of the best armor in the game, IMO. My E/Mo's elegant elite Canthan > any amount of glorified metal bikinis and microminis.

zamial

zamial

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2006

Usa

TKC

N/

Factions has its place, and i do like it a very little more than NF.

The good ole days of proph was awesome. it took FOREVER to get to max level not fresh of of "noob island". Assassins were played way wrong and are just now starting to be accepted. Ritualists are way over powered and heaven forbid they nerf the class that is way over powered instead of nerfing everything else. The scenery is less than desirable, giant slums, seas of blue/green glass.....

It seems very short with content, and they mix pvp into pve. It was designed for the "casual" player, in my opinion and it incorporated the polar opposite of proph.

The order in which I like campaigns is: proph, EotN, and NF/ factions tie for dead last.

As far as cantha not being in the starting of GW2 is fine with me.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

I liked factions. I don't really know why there is so much hate for it. I liked it more then NF for some reason, and much more then GW:EN.

PS- Forge Runner post baby! 1,500! w00t.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
I liked factions. I don't really know why there is so much hate for it. I liked it more then NF for some reason, and much more then GW:EN.

PS- Forge Runner post baby! 1,500! w00t.
Beat you to it Rahja

Anyway, yeahalthough I'm an old beta vet, because of that Factions is still my fave, quicker to lvl 20, I liked the story and after 18 months playing prophecies (including beta's) I was bored shitless of Prophecies and I still am

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
Beat you to it Rahja

Anyway, yeahalthough I'm an old beta vet, because of that Factions is still my fave, quicker to lvl 20, I liked the story and after 18 months playing prophecies (including beta's) I was bored shitless of Prophecies and I still am
you know, I just looked at my profile. I noticed it says I am 20.... I entered my bday wrong... 1986, not 1987. FAIL. Oh well.

tmr819

tmr819

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

I liked Factions...

I liked the story.
I liked the missions. (Nothing compares to Vizunah Square!)
I liked the regions (even Kaineng City and Undercity).
I like the armors.

I did not mind the linear/locked doors.

The only thing I didn't like in Factions were some of the voices of the NPCs: Danika and Vizu were especially annoying and jarringly wrong for the parts they were playing. Danika sounded like Fran Drescher at her "The Nanny" worst and Vizu sounded like a bad Marlene Dietrich impersonator.

ravensong

ravensong

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Croatia

Me/

Cantha is by far most interesting land in whole GW.
Especially Echovald Forrest and Jade Sea.

Too bad we wont be able to jump around there.

beregond

beregond

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

Paladins of Eternal Truth[POET]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymous
My main problem with Factions was the fact that you had to use the terrible spirit henchman as your second healer if you henched the game, thats what made it hard. Factions is much better if you can go through with heroes.
I disagree. I think the henchies were fine, and in some missions I prefered to use them over real people. Nahpui for instance is a pain to everyone I think. I would try and try to beat it in a group of real people, and it would always fail. Then I tried henchies, and won it on the first try with just a few seconds past masters. I was really close to masters, but didn't quite get it.

chillpill_2u

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

W/Mo

Factions is starting to grow on me, now that finished both Prophecies and NF. I don't see myself taking my other chars all the way through NF. I started two characters in Factions and is awesome to be able to level up fast. I will definately take all my characters through Factions for sure.

Things I don't like:

- Timed missions
- Co-op missions
- Closed gates. I really hope that GW2 has open areas just like prophecies.

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by chillpill_2u
Factions is starting to grow on me, now that finished both Prophecies and NF. I don't see myself taking my other chars all the way through NF. I started two characters in Factions and is awesome to be able to level up fast. I will definately take all my characters through Factions for sure.

Things I don't like:

- Timed missions
- Co-op missions
- Closed gates. I really hope that GW2 has open areas just like prophecies.
Why do you dislike the closed gates it is nice they should have done it to Prophecies to.
Let me ask you this you would like to run or be runt right.
IMO that whas the flaw in Prophecies the runs sorry but this is just the way i think about it you can't convince me that runners where a plan in the design of the game.
Prophecies is only 4 missions to finish the game

chillpill_2u

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

W/Mo

I dislike closed gates because it doesn't allow you to explore other areas or go to certain outposts. Closed gates forces you to do the mission. I just prefer the sense of freedom and not being forced to do something, but thats just me.

|pyro|

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

I dislike Cantha from all the reasons counter here + it looks nothing what common logic suggest a land mass could look like. Geography FTL

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by chillpill_2u
I dislike closed gates because it doesn't allow you to explore other areas or go to certain outposts. Closed gates forces you to do the mission. I just prefer the sense of freedom and not being forced to do something, but thats just me.
it is just fine as cantha is the system allows you to get maximum content out of it.
Prophecies had to much freedom you could play the game i a way that it wasn't designt to be
But let not go into it to deep course i think and always do that closed gates where FTW.

Quote:
Originally Posted by |pyro|
I dislike Cantha from all the reasons counter here + it looks nothing what common logic suggest a land mass could look like. Geography FTL
What does it matter it's a game lets start about nightfall and it floating gardens.

Chilos

Chilos

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Oulu, in magical land called Finland

Everything sucks on Faction except AB

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Factions with heroes is fine, Factions with just henchmen was... unpleasant, I'd think.

It's pretty clear from GW2 prepress that the first game is going to be based in Tyria, with subsequent expansions opening up Cantha and Elona.

aaje vhanli

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

I don't see why they have to get rid of Cantha at all. They are the creators, they could change it in any way necessary. I thought GW2 was about aNet doing things they can't with the current GW universe not creating further restrictions on themselves.

I personally was hoping for Tyria, Cantha, Elona, "Utopia," and Orr to be involved in GW2. They should spend more time working on GW2 and be all inclusive instead of throwing out an entire continent and culture they created.


Also, people shouldn't hate on the continent and culture just because you didn't like the game.

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

They can't take out Canthan Ninjas.

Magikarp

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

i find it odd to see so many people whine about "locked gates". i can get from lvl1 to 20 in 2 1/2 hours in factions, and have it beat in 8, if not less.

i find it to be my favorite campaign, and in fact, so much that i remade a lot of my characters into canthans when it came out.

i love the crowded, city streets, the seemingly more advanced civilization, the asian influences, and most of all, the story. i find canthas story to be the best of all, with proph second, and gwen third. nf doesnt even get mentioned, because it was simply long, boring, uninspiring, and most of all, a horrid story. i like sunspears, i love the look of Kodash/Vabbi... but so much desert, and even more lame story=boring.

i really hope the canthans beat the undead in GW2, and get to be in an expansion, so that we can see the sweet culture re-instated into the GWs universe.



GO CANTHANS!

-Pluto-

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

US

Diversionary Tactics [DT]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by AuraofMana
They can't take out Canthan Ninjas.
I for one hope they do.