GW1 features in GW2: Wants and Don't Wants

Fishmonger

Fishmonger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

P/W

P.s.- more Lore!!!!!!! Lore=awesome

ejp

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

W/

all u noobs that want high lvl caps and more skills and more lore go play WoW i want gw 2 to be like gw 1 but with more races

Tamuril elansar

Tamuril elansar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/

wants:
1. RA and TA
2. necro's
3. good graphics

absolute dont wants:
1. any form of grind
2. report of abusive language option
3. HB the way it is now

..L..

..L..

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wants:
A proffesion with guns.
Higher level cap 40ish.
Dual proffesions.

No goes:
Lootscaling
Useless skills
Asuras xD

Scarlett Romanov

Scarlett Romanov

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

Wants

1. I'd like to be able to do something outside of fighting in pve and pvp. Fshing, mining, anything really!
2. Balanced character classes. In otherwords, I don't want one profession to be shunned by the community as a whole.
3. I want my titles from Gw1 to be worth something. I don't want to find out that I wasted my time on something stupid. (Which will most likely be the case.)

Don't Wants

1. High level cap - If I wanted to spend countless hours leveling, I'd play another mmorpg.
2. Grind of any kind. Grind is boring and is not fun. I want to play and enjoy myself.
3. Half-assed storyline. *cough* GWEN *cough* I want them to put some thought into the story and make it as interesting as the original prophecies.

Gwmaster

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada/Quebec

N/

Wants
- Increased level cap
- More rewarding quests...(for the love of god, dont make quests like in prophecies where u get 500exp at lvl 20..)
- More Gigantic monsters
- Better spell animations
- the ability for anyone to have a pet companion(but make rangers have some bonuses of course)
- Dragons that arent female with a the voice of a grandma with lung cancer.
- More Weapon types, armor types
- More customization
- Make areas more solo friendly..perhaps do a system like in diablo where the more you are the harder and rewarding it gets...
- more easter eggs
Don't want
- useless nerfs
- heroes (they killed the social of this game)
- mehlo
- unique items with non unique skin

K Westgate

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

DVDF - Blu Ray

Mo/

Wants:

- an interesting storyline which twists and turns, and then unexpectedly goes and surprises us; also it teaches us and our character something.

- missions that will require a lot of co-operation between players in a team. Eg like Aurora Glade and Thunderhead Keep, and others like Vizunah Square where you have a much larger sized teams. I'd love to see teams of 100 players like you get in WoW. I also think challenging areas like DoA are a good thing.

- an amazing pvp element to the game, and also for the pvp to evolve so it is less repetitive. I think PvP is what has kept a lot of people interested in GW - but new content (new maps, and new arenas) should be added more often. I'd like voicecom built into the game.

Don't wants
- repetition - like norn point or lightbringer point farming

- dark gloomy landscapes - I want to be wowed by the scenery or the artist's imagination, not depressed by it.

- a monthly fee

Kyubbi

Kyubbi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/

Wants:
Higher lvl. caps
cool unique items
new races
different storylines for each race?
able to play 8 heroes instead of henchies? only in pve not pvp

No goes:
Lootscaling
Useless skills
pvp titles :/ inexperienced people barely play cause of title discrimination tsk. tsk. mostly in HA

Solange

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

WANT:

1.) Better Tutorials for PVP - STOP HIDING STUFF - SHOW THEM ITS THERE, big GIANT RED arrows or Green ones...I think Half the people who play Guild Wars don't even know about all the features of have yet to try many of the features in the game SHOW THEM ITS THERE, the pvp tutorial they had on the PVP island was WEAK....zaishen challenge is also hidden to most people that don't know about talking to that one NPC who gives you quest.

2.) Built In Voice Chat - Hate having to alt+Tab out, get password/userid, ip address just to voice chat...its annoying and i'm sure most people don't even bother. Counter-STrike Source, Battlefield 2 have built in voice chat, quality isn't the best but it doesn't need to be you can hear the other person and thats all people need

3.) Ragdoll Effects - Crysis, Half-life 2 Source engine games have physics engine...characters respond to the environment when killed along with other objects in the game imagine killing an enemy along side a hill he'd go tumbling down the hill after he died and mash his body up....SaWEEET

Jumping - its awesome
Swimming - awesome
Observer mode (KEEP) - awesome


do NOT want


1.) Having to buy expansion packs/PVP packs to stay competitive in PVP - making some skills mandatory and only available in certain campaigns is GREEDY evil

2.) 55 Monk builds or elitist farming - Make instances SCALE the amount of monsters depending on how many people enter that instance. If 1 person enters an instance the Instance spawns less monsters allowing ANYONE to solo farm and anyone to play on their own without the need of Heroes/henchmen. I LIKE PLAYING ALONE sometimes...sometimes and when i mean ALONE i don't mean 7 other bots following me around.

3.) WEAK LEVEL design - Whoever designs majority of towns and layout of areas is WEAK sauce...Lions Arch isn't even that nice looking, its one of the better looking towns in the game but the layout is weak. Hire some good level designers please

jayce

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

N/

Want:
1. no level cap
2. all unlocked primary skills on skillbar (excluding seperate balanced pvp)
3. solo-friendly mission/explorable areas (excluding dungeon type)

Dont Want:
1. monthly fee
2. heros
3. instancized world



Jayce Of Underworld

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Don't Wants:
PvE.
Heroes.
Uh...that kinda butchers the whole game...

On topic:

Wants:
Heroes (at least a sylvari and tengu, since we don't have those yet)
End game greens (good ones)
Be able to show and have our GW1 titles, mini pets, weapons, etc.
Wear GW1 armor
Ability to change character names/looks if you want
Ability to have an all-hero party (instead of just 3)
Cinematics
Good lore
More green drops (drop more often, I get golds more often and they're supposed to be rare)
Less side quests (like all the Vabbian and Kournan and Istan ones - after a while they get sooo old)

Don't wants:
Ridiculously hard areas/missions/quests
Too high requirements for my computer, resulting in lag and bad graphics
Monthly fee
Heroes/henchies sharing your money (real players are okay)
Lack of green drops
Death penalty
Res shrines where you have to stand right on them to activate them
Reskins
Required to use the same name as GW1

Shadow Longstem

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

ok repost for the op

wants :
skill based game
good gfx
redistribute stat anytime

dont wants :
lack of z - axis movement
as much instancing
too much grind, and lvl/gear based game [yh neither of those r from gw1 but meh]

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
Uh...that kinda butchers the whole game...
Not if all of GW2 can be entirely solo'd.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

New list

Want
A dark side fight....those are always fun
Being possessed by my ancestor (So my gw1 char can live on)
Assassin class
Paragon class changed to Dancer or bard class
Level 50, level cap, but a nice speed of gaining exp so it's not hard
Missions to give me an actual army, fighting as a team of 8 can go to hell.
Storyline events/missions where absolutely no fighting is involved.
Maps with no monsters, just peaceful scenery or events.
Lots and lots of npcs


DO not want
AIDS
Bad AI
Linear storyline (make it split somewhere, so you can get alternate endings)
Lame Bosses,
DIfferent boss fights (like Cyndr in heart of shiver peaks)
Small Bosses (MAKE EM HUGE!!!!)
No respect for being a descendent
Monthly pays
Cancer
HOM to affect you early on, make it something closer to mid/end game

Vitas

Vitas

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

[formerly] Tombs of the Primevals - healing B/Ps that try to be meat shields and pwning Darknesses

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave-o
Quote:
Originally Posted by prism2525
The problem is (as always) that some ppl are under-civilized and don't give new/low ranked ppl a chance. All go with the "if ur not at least r3 you're shit, don't understand shit, and aren't worth my shitty time." Isn't that a shitty attitude?
i've seriously NEVER heard that, have played butloads of TA/HA etc.

.....snip.....

don't wants:
retards
I was going to say "You're kidding, right?" and then I saw his "Don't Wants" -- no offense, friend, but you might want to consider that you haven't seen "that" because you might be "that." Really, I'm just trying to be helpful.

Wants:
**If Titles, then they should gain you more than a fraction of a percentage point of "(Fill in the Blank)".
**Second hand and dropped armors.
**Limited area Local Chat within Towns/Outposts

Don't Wants:
**To hear what someone clear over on the other side of town is saying in Local (or keep it in local and create a "Nearby" tab to listen to those in the vicinity only.) (Doesn't affect the current Trade channel.)
**Titles that mean almost nothing to the playability of the game.

EDIT: To make clarifications -V

Sirugel Kai

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Want:
Instances
Our old characters
everything in the current GW xD

Dont want:
Races - I REALLY REALLY dont want people running around as charr or tengu or anything like that.. if i dont get GW2 this is the reason
Insanely high level cap

Sirius-NZ

Sirius-NZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ)

Xen of Onslaught

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirugel Kai
everything in the current GW xD
Uh... no offense, but if this is what you're after... couldn't you just ... play the current GW?

-Pluto-

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

US

Diversionary Tactics [DT]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Limu Tolkki
Wants:
WoW

Dont wants:
GW
Fixed.

Quote:
PvP ranks (they just cause elitism)
On the contrary. They don't cause elitism, or even allow for it. Take out the pvp ranks and titles, and people just revert to an even more rigid system of elitism (one used my a lot of top guilds since most people don't place much value on titles), where people just refuse to group with people they don't know.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens
-Incremental level cap. I'm sorry but its necessary. If everyone can get to level 100 in the initial campaign then everyone level 80-100 will whine about how there's no high level content and how easy everything is.
lolok. so now that this expansion came out, not ONLY do you miss out on a bunch of skills, but now you're a lower level than anyone who does! Yay competition!
Quote:
Originally Posted by revaer
Do want:

-Better PvP reward system.
-TA ladder and generally more support for that game type.
-More skills that reward skill and insight. See bull's strike, diversion, gale, etc.
-Reworked assassins with no shadow stepping or long attack chains (in case they are included in GW2).

Do NOT want:

-Main focus on PvE content.
-Itemization.
-"Everything must be viable."
-Racial abilities. I don't want to find out that "race x is the best for profession y".
-Titles.
Just want to say I agree with just about everything said here. In fact, I'd be really happy if GW didn't fall into every other MMO's trope of having all these retarded races and them each fulfilling some niche role. But if they do use them it would be nice if they were entirely cosmetic (like how male and female characters are exactly the same). Of course, if that happened, just about everyone and their dog would be complaining about the races being lame, so... not going to happen

Also would like to add, do not want this free-movement bullshit to scew up pvp and make the gameplay feel like the immense unfunness that was Fury. I'm afraid this will likely end up with some retarded "over the shoulder" only camera with actually making your character do what you're telling it to do is half the battle.

I suppose, what it really comes down to for me is "want: same core game as I've been playing with new graphics, skills, story, etc.

don't want: a bunch of the typical mmo stuff that everyone else seem to want because they don't want to pay 15 dollars a month for it."

Sir Seifus Halbred

Sir Seifus Halbred

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by prism2525
Call me stupid but I think that I asked everyone to post only 3 wants and 3 don't wants.
Yeah you did.

Quote:
Originally Posted by prism2525
Please only post 3 features of each (3 wants, 3 don't wants)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
Be able to show and have our GW1 titles, mini pets, weapons, etc.
That is what the HoM is for...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf & All players asking about this
Wear GW1 armor
This really irriates me. What is it that you people don't get about this? It isn't possible and will not happen.

Guild Wars 2 is a new game, very different from Guild Wars 1, why would armor from Guild Wars 1 be wornable in Guild Wars 2? The graphics, etc.

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
How about they keep shadow stepping, but add nuances to things to impede it.
Like you can't shadowstep through wards or wells.
I don't know! I think it would be interesting.
Shadow stepping is neat, but it needs something to counter it.
deletion from the game would be a pretty good counter..

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

There is only one thing i want:

Want: Non-instanced explorable areas. i want to explore with other people. i think the instancing has shunned the crowd so much, that H/H has become the god of PvE.

Don't Want: Instanced explorable areas

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle222
There is only one thing i want:

Want: Non-instanced explorable areas. i want to explore with other people. i think the instancing has shunned the crowd so much, that H/H has become the god of PvE.

Don't Want: Instanced explorable areas
no i dont like this, go play WoW if you want this.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler
no i dont like this, go play WoW if you want this.
Or wait for GW2.

: P

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Wants:
No titles which benefit skills/damage (Grinding just to get a DoA ursanway group is fail)
NO skills that are completely useless, and balance them among each other so its not just a few builds for the class
A monument dedicated to our old characters ( although this is probably already being planned on implimentation )

Don't Wants:
PvP titles based on grind
Insane level cap
*insert random dont want here*

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
Wants:
No titles which benefit skills/damage (Grinding just to get a DoA ursanway group is fail)

...

Don't wants:
Insane level cap
I'd be more against these if there wasn't going to be that sounds-incredibly-awesome sidekick system. Not to mention you won't ever need to party unless you want to. I'm not talking about using heroes.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

I forgot one don't want.

Raven Staves. If anything like this skin is implemented to GW2 I'm not buying it.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
I forgot one don't want.

Raven Staves. If anything like this skin is implemented to GW2 I'm not buying it.
MotherRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing seconded!

Isileth

Isileth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I'd be more against these if there wasn't going to be that sounds-incredibly-awesome sidekick system. Not to mention you won't ever need to party unless you want to. I'm not talking about using heroes.
The problem with that is its only 1 companion.
I really enjoy the team building side of the game. Rather than having to run some jack of all trades build you have each char take a specific role and have them support each other.

Playing some weird hybrid DPS/healer/support combo has never appealed to me.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isileth
The problem with that is its only 1 companion.
I really enjoy the team building side of the game. Rather than having to run some jack of all trades build you have each char take a specific role and have them support each other.

Playing some weird hybrid DPS/healer/support combo has never appealed to me.
The grouping mechanic in GW1 is cool, to be sure. But having to have a full 8 person party for large portion of the game can be taxing to those who are newer to it, most especially in areas that aren't real popular.

We've already discussed this problem indetail on that other god-forsaken thread. Let's just say that it'll be done for the greater good.

In regards to "having to resort to a hybrid", we'll see. It sounds like GW1 is going the Hellgate:London way in terms of eliminating core group mechanics and replacing it with a much more opened feel in terms of gameplay.

Isileth

Isileth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
The grouping mechanic in GW1 is cool, to be sure. But having to have a full 8 person party for large portion of the game can be taxing to those who are newer to it, most especially in areas that aren't real popular.
I personally think having a group makes it easier. You have others who can cover for you if you are still learning the game.

When its just you, even more so when you have to cover multiple roles, it can be a lot harder.
If you only have to focus on hitting stuff with an axe or healing it allows you to learn the basics of the game much quicker than if your having to do a bit of everything.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isileth
I personally think having a group makes it easier. You have others who can cover for you if you are still learning the game.
Groups do indeed make it easier, but putting together that group is the hardest aspect. This is where I believe that GW1 tumbled, in that you *had* to have a group for every area.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isileth
When its just you, even more so when you have to cover multiple roles, it can be a lot harder.
This is only if GW2 will have to require you to focus on multiple roles. From the way it sounds, it seems as though GW2 is gonna be a little Diablo 2ish/Hellgatish, which is a *good* thing. It sounds simple, but it has a lot of room to be massively complex.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isileth
If you only have to focus on hitting stuff with an axe or healing it allows you to learn the basics of the game much quicker than if your having to do a bit of everything.
Again, we don't know how GW2 will be built. If it's advertised as being able to be completely soloed, then trying to fit into several roles with one character won't be terribly enjoyable - hence they likely won't do it.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

I want new things!

I don't want the same type of game over and over like GW1 did w/ expansions.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

What's wrong with raven staves?
I have like 98 of them!

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler
no i dont like this, go play WoW if you want this.
no, i want non instanced areas in GW style
gg

whufc89

whufc89

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2007

UK

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoke
dont want:
Titles (maybe ppl will play for fun again)

couldnt care about anything else

I disagree titles are one of the most fun things about this game half the fun is going for ur title and feeling pleased when you get it. IMO

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by whufc89
I disagree titles are one of the most fun things about this game half the fun is going for ur title and feeling pleased when you get it. IMO
Your more than welcome to your opinion and fair play for it... But thats called grind and thats one thing Guild Wars was against at the beginning and could be the major deal breaker for GW2 for me and my guild

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
What's wrong with raven staves?
I have like 98 of them!
That asinine pre-inscription cast weapon system? I swear to God, if I see another dual-profession weapon...

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Seifus Halbred
This really irriates me. What is it that you people don't get about this? It isn't possible and will not happen.

Guild Wars 2 is a new game, very different from Guild Wars 1, why would armor from Guild Wars 1 be wornable in Guild Wars 2? The graphics, etc.
Why would we be putting our armors in Hall of Monuments if we can't even wear them in Guild Wars 2? That doesn't make any sense...GWEN is supposed to be a bridge between the two games, and it states that you will be able to take out and wield GW1 weapons and use mini pets...why not armor?

Another thing I'd like - keep the holiday events

Terraban

Terraban

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I'd be more against these if there wasn't going to be that sounds-incredibly-awesome sidekick system. Not to mention you won't ever need to party unless you want to. I'm not talking about using heroes.
Hmm....Diablo 2 MMO anyone?

God I hope they don't make it so that any character can play through the game with only a 1 person team. That eliminates the need for support characters....and support characters are all that I like.

Jaythen Tyradel

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tender Wolf
Why would we be putting our armors in Hall of Monuments if we can't even wear them in Guild Wars 2? That doesn't make any sense...GWEN is supposed to be a bridge between the two games, and it states that you will be able to take out and wield GW1 weapons and use mini pets...why not armor?

Another thing I'd like - keep the holiday events
Agree on the holiday events.

However, from all that i have read, the stuff we put into our Halls "unlocks" something. From what i have read, we cant use our weapons/minipets or anything else. Too early to argue this point anyway for as far as we know they could change how the Hall works between now and beta and final release.