[Dev Update] Exploits and Bans – 10 January 2008

looks like that..

Unfortunately for Anet, this wont just go away.

It is very revealing of some the business practices they have been doing recently. It reveals that they are unable to differentiate between a game hack, exploit or ferry. It reveals that they are impartial in their judgments. They ban some for cheating, and don't ban others for a similar offense. It reveals that they rather be dishonest then owe up to a programming error. It reveals that they rather ban a few people to scare the rest of the community into submission. It reveals a lack of respect to those players that are a cornerstone of the guild wars community. The banning of these individuals affect thousands of people they know and game with. It reveals a lack of consideration to the those posting on these forums and those appealing in support and through strangers in game.

You really have no proof to back up anything you just said, you are just stirring the pot. There was an exploit to ferry people to any location on the mini map, I knew about it and never used it. They deserve the ban they got, and ANET doesnt have to prove anything to you. If you really didnt do anything wrong and got banned they will fix it.

Is 56 pages of crap necessary?

It's just the normal conspiracy theories/BS anyway.

Understand this.
Programming error are error.
If you know anything of programming you will know they cannot be avoided.
Any program have them.

Expoiting that error is a bannable offence.

And i aready explained why the choosed to ban this time and the other time no.

Hi i'm matt and i'm an addict

http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/archives/000780.php

Perhaps I should be more annoyed at farming this for a day and getting banned but oddly enough I feel a strange sense of release. Odd huh?

Gaile was on the grassy knoll.

lishi plz read the first 50pages

and to matt: anet almost forced me to buy a creditcard to get a bonus pack.

talking about creditcards, i would definitly draw my cash back when you bought it in the online store.

Oh come on, for zark's sake! As if it matters a wee bit if it is hack (which it is) or not, or a bug, it is an exploit, and got exploited! Is this A-nets fault? Of course not! The outpost had to be there and couldn't be removed or DoA would crash - fine, if that's how it works then leave it. If someone steals your car and a cop said to you: 'You shouldn't have bought a car in the first place' - a nice world it'd be!

Criminals get punished. Fight your case if your innocent, but if you're not, QQ me a river. A-nets system of detecting illegal behaviour is very good, we have already seen that at the dupefest and we see it once again. Really, in 6 months time, are there only 117 people who got in touch with this exploit? Of course not, there must have been way way more. And I don't think that they forgot about the others or couldn't track them or whatever - they must be really thorough on who they're banning and who not.

This exploit was clearly illegal. It allowed you to pick up the reward of a quest that normally took you about 3 hours to complete in 10 minutes. What IS legal about that?

Now I'm going to bed, I've had enough of this. Think whatever you want and QQ whatever you want, but I know this WAS a hack, I know it HAS been abused and silently I laugh at those who used it and thought they could get away with it.

And to those who don't believe Gaile - get some sense. Someone like Gaile would not lie about something of this kind to the community. She's the community manager for Gods sake. If anyone would know what's going on, she would. And don't go talking about that mini-polar again. That was a mistake, but it's not stereotype behaviour that an A-net employee makes a mistake. Get some faith.

If that is the case, why weren't the "map traveling ferries" banned? They too exploited an error. Why weren't the "Duncan ferries" banned? They too exploited an error. Both of these offenders exploited a programming error for profit, the same way the Mallyx people did.

I really dont have a problem with the Mallyx people getting banned. My problems are:

1. The inconsistencies in punishment. If you're going to perma ban one for profiting from an exploit, you need to perma ban all. If you're not going to perma ban all, then dont perma ban any. Give them a slap on the wrist, ban for a few days, take away their ill gotten gains.

2. The lie to us telling us that these people "hacked" their client to gain access to this outpost. Since when is pushing the "g" key a hack? Just come clean, dont lie to us. Just say they abused an exploit.

Why dont they ban all of us so we can all contribute something to soceity.

L0ve rants about the economy thats worse than iraqs right now.

haha, i swear you are such an idiot, its true u have to admit many people abused this glitch but you are nothing but a troll with no life my man.. anyone who comes in here without your train of thought is obviously wrong hah. all you ever really do is flame and when it comes down to it? the info you got was half ass from an unreliable source you didnt even know.. now go back to school learn how to share or something its pathetic.

I think the Polar Bear fiasco totally throws your position out the window. Why wouldn't we talk about it. It's just another mistake by Gaile. She is obviously out of the loop on a great number of things.

Has anything useful been said in the last 56 pages? Close this already.

not really inconsistent as the previous 2 exploits were glitches that didnt involve hacking at any point. also, they didnt benefit people exponentially, as the duping glitch did. u can make an argue that the mallyx one does b/c a good group can easily do mallyx in normal mode in 20 mins, so 3 gemsets an hour. the duncan farming could not make that much money that fast

I'd just get another game LOL. Society=fail.

Oh and Prog then Anet should be fair and ban all of us for when we exploited before as well. Everyone, for the past 2 years. Ooh but Anet wants Guild Wars 2 to be successful don't they? Yeah so they won't do that. So there will be complaints and bitching till the cows come home. If they could come home, but Anet nerfed them.

all i want is a list of the 117 so we can all get alts and make a guild together

Because like i before said : they decided letting the previus offence go wouldn't hurted the community.

In this case if they didnt anything the community would have been pissed.

1) there are cheating and cheating. ( Like someone who steal 10 bucks and someone who rob a bank)
2) Wasn't a lie someone actually did hack the game.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=1#post3533411

Did you actually READ anything that I posted? Get effing informed. I don't care if people haven't got my train of thought. I care about the fact that some people come up with the most idiotic arguments to getting their accounts unbanned or whatever if they have been presented with all the proof possible.

Now grow up.

thats not quite right. they let it go because it would hurt the community taking thousands of dollars from thier pockets. and now that the numbers are small? and they have people to impress? of course they are gonna make an example of them how else are they gonna patrol exploiters? they have no real system in place to deal with any of it.. like i said i could care less about gettin banned from some game that will be dead in a year or so anyway.. all i will miss are the people..laters