The Xunlai Marketplace thread

Coridan

Coridan

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hrm i think i will make a copy of my dat file before downloading the new update :P The can take it out of the game dat but they can't take it out of a backup file on my computer

Gattocheese

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I know that January and February are kind of a slow month for business and online activity. Usually after New Years. But i havent even seen a post by Gaile or any other dev for that matter since the "117". We were usually getting some info or at least a hello every week or so. It wouldnt crush my hopes to say the market is nothing. But it would be nice to have any future updates, news, screenshots, ect... to be told to us for a hype factor or a sense of advertising. Something to look forward to.

Darksun

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seef II
Well, all strings pertaining to the marketplace were nuked out of my dat. Very odd. No new information from me
LOL this is the single funniest thing they could have done!
Anet: "stop snooping, this info doesn't accurately reflect what we will do! STOP IT!"

please put away your jump-to-conclusions mats!

pakhavit

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Hope there's no ediot try to find explocit or glicth again :X

Neo Nugget

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Maybe......re-accept EULA= ban for looking in .dat?
Wild guess.

pamelf

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gattocheese
I know that January and February are kind of a slow month for business and online activity. Usually after New Years. But i havent even seen a post by Gaile or any other dev for that matter since the "117". We were usually getting some info or at least a hello every week or so. It wouldnt crush my hopes to say the market is nothing. But it would be nice to have any future updates, news, screenshots, ect... to be told to us for a hype factor or a sense of advertising. Something to look forward to.
Not only that, but if it's not happening it would just be polite to let us know straight away. Why let us discuss this at all if it's not happening when Gaile could just have denied it?

shoyon456

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
LOL this is the single funniest thing they could have done!
Anet: "stop snooping, this info doesn't accurately reflect what we will do! STOP IT!"

please put away your jump-to-conclusions mats!
If anet really wanted to stop us from jumping to conclusions, they'd have either issued an Official statement on the matter, or removed the strings much sooner than what, 2-3 weeks after all these posts have flared up?

Be realistic, anet doesn't care what we think they'll do, they're gonna do what they're gonna do, apparently w/o informing us right away.

Silly Warrior

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If information on Marketplace was purposely taken out of the dat, then we know the following.

1.Anet knows we know.
2.Anet doesn't want to admit we know its real, thus taking it out of the .dat
3.Gaile and Andrew both confirm they have heard, but give no information and ignore requests to hear additional information.

The company trapped itself into a corner, and is going to ignore everything we talk about on this subject until it is released or announced.

Its real.

slowerpoke

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
The company trapped itself into a corner, and is going to ignore everything we talk about on this subject until it is released or announced.

Its real.
On the flipside, they could have canned it

Silly Warrior

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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowerpoke
On the flipside, they could have canned it
Possibly, but then a reply would be given by Gaile. This hasn't happened yet. If they have nothing to hide then theres no reason to not give answers.

But they do have something to hide.

/evil laugh

arcanemacabre

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
Its real.
Well, yeah, this definitely confirms that it is real. However, I agree with slowerpoke that this might mean it has been canned. I'd say a 50/50 chance. Still, Gaile/Andrew's silence on the matter is mysterious. Even if this whole thing is a 100% go, surely they would have said something. Maybe along the lines of:

"Alright, guys, you've had your fun looking at all the things we never meant to be seen. We've cleaned up some of that stuff in this latest patch. Oh, and don't get your hopes up on certain features (won't mention any by name) that were stumbled on. If we are adding anything new, you guys will know of it when we're good and ready for you guys to know!"

Yeah, something like that. A playful hint that doesn't say yay or nay, and with no promises to be broken if they choose not to finish it for whatever reason. Ya know, something, anything!

Yawgmoth

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They just go the "nothing happened" way. We can't track it's progress anymore but there can be a whole lot of possible scenarions. It may be coming soon, final version may be quite different than what the strings suggested, or it may be a long time project, or the development stopped leaving it unfinished till some more resources will be freed, or even it might be that the project failed miserably and is completelly scrapped.
And they won't confirm nor deny anything like that ever existed so we won't know anything.

Neo Nugget

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Now.....just wait for the MiB agents to come to your door and flash their memory wipe thingy on you

Anyway, removing it from the .dat is extremely suspicious.

Darksun

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Quote:
Originally Posted by shoyon456
If anet really wanted to stop us from jumping to conclusions, they'd have either issued an Official statement on the matter, or removed the strings much sooner than what, 2-3 weeks after all these posts have flared up?

Be realistic, anet doesn't care what we think they'll do, they're gonna do what they're gonna do, apparently w/o informing us right away.
anet cares if we jump to conclusions only if expectations get out of hand., that's all i'm sayin.

Vitas

Vitas

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Join Date: Jul 2007

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It's possible that the data we were seeing was the content they were debugging. That's finished, so the strings were removed.

Nonetheless, we are currently out of the loop until we find more clues. And maybe that's the way ANet wants it.

Seef II

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
Maybe......re-accept EULA= ban for looking in .dat?
Wild guess.
I didn't have to re-accept the EULA after this patch.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
If information on Marketplace was purposely taken out of the dat, then we know the following.

1.Anet knows we know.
2.Anet doesn't want to admit we know its real, thus taking it out of the .dat
3.Gaile and Andrew both confirm they have heard, but give no information and ignore requests to hear additional information.

The company trapped itself into a corner, and is going to ignore everything we talk about on this subject until it is released or announced.

Its real.
I'm just one person. Other people should take a look inside their own dats and see if the Marketplace stuff's gone for themselves. I still don't know what's up with my dat actually shrinking between updates, so stuff actually does get pruned out of the thing. So much for gerbil births huh?

MithranArkanere

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Maybe there temporarily added it to GW1 to test 'the system' for GW2.

And it would be added only to GW2.

Aerian_Skybane

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
If information on Marketplace was purposely taken out of the dat, then we know the following.

1.Anet knows we know.
2.Anet doesn't want to admit we know its real, thus taking it out of the .dat
3.Gaile and Andrew both confirm they have heard, but give no information and ignore requests to hear additional information.

The company trapped itself into a corner, and is going to ignore everything we talk about on this subject until it is released or announced.

Its real.
If we have them trapped in a corner, then they are getting some help staying out of this. This is an inside job.

We have a rat....

I need everyones names and addresses. Ill get to teh bottom of this...

I heard Jack Bauer is a free hire now. Time to get crackin.

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Hope there's no ediot try to find explocit or glicth again :X
Do what now?

Vazze

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Join Date: Aug 2006

It makes sense that they don't want the community to jump to conclusions based on fragmented info, it would only create false expectations. People are already discussing what they DON'T want in the marketplace update, and that is certainly not the way to introduce new features. Be happy that you know that you are going to get it ... some time.

-Loki-

-Loki-

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
Possibly, but then a reply would be given by Gaile. This hasn't happened yet. If they have nothing to hide then theres no reason to not give answers.
Actually, there is. People are happy with finding out that an auction house was in development. Gaile coming in here and saying 'no, it's not happening' is just going to piss a lot of people off. Not saying anything just leaves it to community speculation, and no one gets upset.

Aerian_Skybane

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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Actually, there is. People are happy with finding out that an auction house was in development. Gaile coming in here and saying 'no, it's not happening' is just going to piss a lot of people off. Not saying anything just leaves it to community speculation, and no one gets upset.
And letting speculation run rampant until they more or less HAVE to deny it? Sounds like a win win for sadists to me. Nipping stuff in the bud before it gets out of hand is a much more effective scenario of dealing with the public than letting hope/fears/speculation fester.

DarkWasp

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerian_Skybane
And letting speculation run rampant until they more or less HAVE to deny it? Sounds like a win win for sadists to me. Nipping stuff in the bud before it gets out of hand is a much more effective scenario of dealing with the public than letting hope/fears/speculation fester.
Yeah, I know their style. And ours.

They'd let us know right away if this wasnt gonna happen.

As for us, GW isnt the most positive community. If this got out of hand without them letting us know, hundreds of threads would pop up made by angry people.

If we dont get any official word on this in 7 days, ima start betting money it'll happen. (I have no one to bet against though).

Neo Nugget

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Well do we know how long this has been in development?
Who knows it could be ready by Canthan New Year 08, or it could be Wintersday 08, but that will be waaaaay to late.

DarkWasp

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
Well do we know how long this has been in development?
Who knows it could be ready by Canthan New Year 08, or it could be Wintersday 08, but that will be waaaaay to late.
Hopefully not any later than the GW2 public beta.

Vitas

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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Actually, there is. People are happy with finding out that an auction house was in development. Gaile coming in here and saying 'no, it's not happening' is just going to piss a lot of people off. Not saying anything just leaves it to community speculation, and no one gets upset.
Actually, Gaile has already stated that there will be no auction house. This thread is not about an auction house.

Ebeneezersquid

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Speaking of Canthan New Year . . .
That would be the ideal time to announce it, but shouldn't the New Year be this coming Thursday (2/7)? That's Chinese New Year, and last years Canthan New Year matched up. I would have thought we would have heard SOMETHING about the celebration for the Year of The Rat by Now. Do you think it may have been delayed?
Anyone find any text strings for the Festival?

fog_of_redoubt

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Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitas
Actually, Gaile has already stated that there will be no auction house. This thread is not about an auction house.
Yeah it amazing that people still call this an "Auction House". There is significant difference in functionality and complexity between an Auction House and a "Marketplace".

zwei2stein

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebeneezersquid
Speaking of Canthan New Year . . .
That would be the ideal time to announce it, but shouldn't the New Year be this coming Thursday (2/7)? That's Chinese New Year, and last years Canthan New Year matched up. I would have thought we would have heard SOMETHING about the celebration for the Year of The Rat by Now. Do you think it may have been delayed?
Anyone find any text strings for the Festival?
do NOT get your hopes high. i repeat, do NOT get your hopes high.

Anet removed strings week ago to what ... add them back or confirm that they were legit next week ? Unlikely.

anet has still DWC weapon skins to add to game for example, and they have enough stuff to make festival big event without big announcements.

Sirius-NZ

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I'm still expecting this to have been a test that they decided not to implement in the end.

DarkWasp

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Actauly it seems they have been strangley silent lately. Not even the other forum is getting much out of the devs.

I hope this means they are preparing for something.

Lord Sojar

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkWasp
Actauly it seems they have been strangley silent lately. Not even the other forum is getting much out of the devs.

I hope this means they are preparing for something.
By the look of the GW.dat file, it looks like they are going all out for the Canthan New Year, and it appears that the Xunlai Marketplace may very well be a part of that big update. So get ready.... but don't get hopes up.

zwei2stein

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
By the look of the GW.dat file, it looks like they are going all out for the Canthan New Year, and it appears that the Xunlai Marketplace may very well be a part of that big update. So get ready.... but don't get hopes up.
But it makes little sense to remove something from dat file only to re-add it in two weeks.

Unless, they first deployed it silently to doublecheck if they got everything preapred correctly on live servers/ (admirable thing to do, and necesary unless they wanted to risk broken feature and QQ on forums) and then purged files in preparation for reall deployment

Hope never dies, eh.

baz777

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I’d be very surprised if they introduced this now.

So much speculation once again that will come to nothing.

Elvis who runs my local corner shop told me so!

MithranArkanere

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We never know anything and we are still the same, just speculation. We only know that "There is garbage in the gw.dat file".

Vitas

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No one has found anything new that I'm aware of on the Marketplace in the dat file. I didn't expect anything XMP for New Year, but if I'm wrong, they are waiting till the last minute to add it.

Silly Warrior

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The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

This was a wake up call to the Dev team, although they will never confirm this.

Chances are we will never find Pre-released content ever again, unless history somehow repeats itself.

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fRag_Doll

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If this was to happen, Canthan New Year sounds like the most logical time to release it.
From a Lore perspective, the Xunlai did originate from Cantha, so it makes sense that a new service would be made available during the biggest festival of the Canthan year.
From a Dev perspective, heaps of players will be online this weekend, so word will spread quickly and it would make a good stress test.

I'm not going to get my hopes up, but I will keep my fingers crossed.

Thargor

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Join Date: Mar 2006

While I love the idea that we may get a marketplace, i have to disagree about the time to release it.
An event weekend is the WORST possible time to release any new feature as large as this would be. As if every single festival/event is not as laggy as it could possibly be already ( to the point that some have been extended to compensate), you think that adding this kind of feature to it would be a good idea?
I want this to be true as much as anyone else here, just not right in the middle of Lagfest08, oops i meant canthan new year.

Vitas

Vitas

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
This was a wake up call to the Dev team, although they will never confirm this.

Chances are we will never find Pre-released content ever again, unless history somehow repeats itself.
On the other hand, those players who frequent the forums are a very small fraction of the total players. So the devs might not think it's a big deal.

Also remember that some of the 'Party Animal' content was still available before it's official announcement but after they removed XMP stuff.


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