The Xunlai Marketplace thread

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

The one reason I can see them doing this is because it may lessen the strain on the servers from the constant flood of trade spam. A prelude to "downscaling" their servers so to speak.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmithyBen
Hmmm i wander where it would be implimented though. It could be a place you acess from TOA etc...but doesnt fit in with style. You gotta think all campaigns can go there. The pic people assume is the place looks elona-y and Xunlai are from cantha....hm
It could be located in battle isles isles, place where all people from all campaigns can come, there are still some unused isles and it wouldn't be much trouble for developers to enlarge that map to fit in new isles.

I wouldn't give much to that picture - those outpost pictures can look deceiving.

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Also: updated OP with info.

ReiNaruto

ReiNaruto

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Valencia, Spain

Green Arse Team

Marketplace can be placed in the Battle Islands, near to the guild hall.

Every player, no matter the expansions it has or if he is using a PVP char, can go there.

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Nice update Zweistein.

I noticed one problem Anet is going to get with their strings

Quote:
You did not purchase [the] %str1% because the seller does not have enough free space to accept the market price of %str2%. The item is no longer listed.
is incompatible with; (NOTE this could also mean that high end sales are possible and that it referes to Ectos or other tradeables)
Quote:
You have sold [an] %str1% through the marketplace! After receiving %str2% of the market price, you could not carry any more gold, so the remaining %str3% was placed in your account storage.
If anyone of the Anet People who dont read these threads so that they cant comment about projects they are not working on and never will... dont look into this so you cant doublecheck the strings which dont exist. Thank you

OK, now I think Ive confused myself enough. If an Anet employee sees this, feel free to correct my wording .

P.S. that last sentence was only for Anet employees, any other corrections will not be accepted


EDIT: It would also be nice if there was an option that the gold were added immediately to the storage space instead of suddenly giving a player 100K while in the filed trying to collect the gold drops

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

There is an empty area between the Great Temple and the Challenge Elite.
The space between the Zaishen Challenge and the Zaishen Elte is revisited durin the Halloween costume arena. But not the empty area I'm talking about.
If I had to place the Training Arenas I'll place them just West from the place I'm talking about.
The doors in the Great temple are also closed, instead of allowing zoning to the Zaishen Challenge.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Image..._Isles_Map.jpg


On top of that, the Icon

Suggest either Prophecies or the Battle isles.

Since it would greatly help PvP players to sell HoH and Zaishen chests stuff while PvPing, if added, the best place would be there.

stretchs

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

This is what is great about forums like this, we have taken a peek inside of the dat and WHAMO we have no found all this info and all the speculation makes everyone think and tends to provide tons of good ideas. At the very least, even if what we think is coming isnt, anet has a nice chunk of ideas to work from via our thoughts on the matter

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

You know, another point to back this up is the merging of all the servers to be accessible by all others. This would mean that you could use the XM to trade with Japanese, Korean and American/European players. Could be that this stopped the system from being implemented in the first place.

Still, not saying woot until I hear a response which doesn't start with "oops sorry guys!"

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Hey... districtcs getting joined... this is like making a puzzle. XD.
We could list all things pointing to that...

The only problem with this is... what if we get all hiped up and they do not add it?

Better remove the idea out of our heads, to get more surprised if they add if...

Fil Arun

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

The Gear Trick

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by stretchs
This is what is great about forums like this, we have taken a peek inside of the dat and WHAMO we have no found all this info and all the speculation makes everyone think and tends to provide tons of good ideas. At the very least, even if what we think is coming isnt, anet has a nice chunk of ideas to work from via our thoughts on the matter
The downside is, it's entirely possible that this is something that's been sitting there for a while and ANet has already abandoned as unfeasable.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fil Arun
The downside is, it's entirely possible that this is something that's been sitting there for a while and ANet has already abandoned as unfeasable.
the longest it could have been sitting in the dat file is back to right after the release of GWEN. because it mentions items that are dedicated to the HoM and dedicated items did not come about until after everyone was complaining about the customization of mini pets.

Fil Arun

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

The Gear Trick

E/Me

Well, not the release of GWEN... because didn't they mention the hall of monuments long before they actually released GWEN?

It could just be a code artifact from when they were coding GWEN.

Mork from Ork

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fil Arun
Well, not the release of GWEN... because didn't they mention the hall of monuments long before they actually released GWEN?

It could just be a code artifact from when they were coding GWEN.
No - because mini pets were originally "customized" rather than dedicated. If it mentions "dedicate" it would have to be info that was added after that change was made following the release of GWEN.

drago34

drago34

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

California

Looking for good PvE guild ...

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fil Arun
Well, not the release of GWEN... because didn't they mention the hall of monuments long before they actually released GWEN?

It could just be a code artifact from when they were coding GWEN.
No, as it has been stated already in this thread it says dedicated and not customized to for minis. So that would have to be sometime after the release of GW:EN when when everyone was complaining about how they can't use them on other chars on their account.

Fil Arun

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

The Gear Trick

E/Me

Oops. Chalk that one up to ignorance, sorry guys.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette
Nice update Zweistein.

I noticed one problem Anet is going to get with their strings
Quote:
You did not purchase [the] %str1% because the seller does not have enough free space to accept the market price of %str2%. The item is no longer listed.
is incompatible with;...
Quote:
You have sold [an] %str1% through the marketplace! After receiving %str2% of the market price, you could not carry any more gold, so the remaining %str3% was placed in your account storage.
Couldn't it just be that you get string2 if the seller has enough space in their storage plus their character but not enough space on their character alone, and they get string1 if the seller does not have enough room in their storage plus their character.

ie: If you had 900k in storage and 90k on your character, then...
  • You could sell a <= 10k item and get the generic "trade done" string.
  • You could sell a 10k < item <= 110k and get string2.
  • You could not sell a >110k item and you would get string1.

stretchs

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

they are going to definitely have to work on the receiving money portion of that so that it deals with people who are maxed on cash in places, be it putting the money in the unclaimed items box like you see at the end of missions and things, or allow us to hold more than the current caps on gold

Aerian_Skybane

Aerian_Skybane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

House of Caeruleous [HoC]

R/E

Still no word from Gaile?

Well then, I guess I will have to pull out an old trick it seems.

GAILE I WILL QUIT GUILD WARS IF YOU DON'T RESPOND TO THIS THREAD IN A HELPFUL MANNER. YUO ANETS WILL RUNZ OUT OF MY SUPPORT AND LESS MONEY!



I have to agree with stretchs, since even if this is currently an abandoned idea, our speculations carry enough ideas that maybe they plunk together some ideas and make it work out later .

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Aerian, see this post: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=193

Fil Arun

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

The Gear Trick

E/Me

Two different functions can have variables named the same. =o

Symeon

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

All very interesting.

Regarding the location of the 'Market'... is it possible it could be located in all the major cities? Most of them have market areas with stalls, such as the Merchants' Row of Lion's Arch. Perhaps it could be conducted by an NPC placed there (e.g. Xunlai Agent [Market])?

seut

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

Maybe it's a location accessible to Xunlai Agents only and we access it by placing items into a special storage tab?

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Symeon
All very interesting.

Regarding the location of the 'Market'... is it possible it could be located in all the major cities? Most of them have market areas with stalls, such as the Merchants' Row of Lion's Arch. Perhaps it could be conducted by an NPC placed there (e.g. Xunlai Agent [Market])?
Sounds About Right.. they made the Xunlai Agents have more functionality with the addition of crafting storage & such. Seems right that all Xunlai Agents, have access to the Xunlai Market. Besides I think someone pointed out we are supposed to be able to trade/list while in explorable areas. So it's feasible & more convenient that all Agents give you access to the Market.

The district joining does also add to the credibility of this whole thing... I don't blame Anet for staying silent though. I think they learned that silence for something that may or may not happen is better than giving anything for the smacktards to use as "evidence" that they "promised" us something.

Aerian_Skybane

Aerian_Skybane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

House of Caeruleous [HoC]

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
She's not really saying much huh?

I want a fairly solid Yes or No, not a cute anecdote that leaves us nowhere lol.

No offense to Gaile.

Relnor

Relnor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
I can tell you that ol' DAT file has a ton of stuff, from last year, this year, four years ago, three offices prior, a staff member's moving sale, somebody's gerbil's birth announcement, and more. Nothing really to say.
But yet she still can't say if the XM is old code or not...interesting. It's almost like Gaile is echoing dodge...

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
To be quite truthful Inde, I believe that Gaile, unfortunately, is kept out of the loop on much of what goes around. The information added to the DAT with respect to the Xunlai market is purportedly recent, and Gaile's duplicity with regards to the Polar Bear places doubt on her actual depth of knowledge in terms of projects in planning.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not faulting her here, I'm simply saying it's altogether quite possible that she's kept out of the loop more than we've been led to believe.

Thus, her saying that in that post truly means nothing to me.

I suppose we should all just 'wait and see'

zerulus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Relnor
But yet she still can't say if the XM is old code or not...interesting. It's almost like Gaile is echoing dodge...
Who cares? They don't owe anyone an explanation or a confirmation or denial of speculations. If you want to speculate about what may or may not happen that is your choice, get your hopes up if you like. If they plan on adding it to the game they will, they don't have any obligation to share their intentions.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Is it likely we'll get something like that, I expect not. :\

Relnor

Relnor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zerulus
Who cares?
I'd say a lot of people...since this is the 228th post in a 12 page thread...

Sergeant of Marines

Sergeant of Marines

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

Japan

[트두므s], Guild Leader

Mo/

No Gaile reply yet.../sigh

Maybe she is getting all the info together to dash our dreams...

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergeant of Marines
No Gaile reply yet.../sigh

Maybe she is getting all the info together to dash our dreams...
She needs to tell the dev team that we know, if she hasn't already. I'm wondering if they even know we know.

Sergeant of Marines

Sergeant of Marines

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

Japan

[트두므s], Guild Leader

Mo/

If it is in fact true, then I bet she/the dev team is a little pissed that we already know about it. Nothing worse than ruining a surprise, especially one of this magnitude.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Check if the strings exist in other languages.

Internationalization is the final step, and requires a great deal of QA. If they have been translated, then this was worked on via production pipeline (i.e. serious business), and not just as a test.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Assuming the merging of the "servers" is being performed to make this marketplace work properly there are still a couple of asian areas to be merged - I think they mentioned it in an update recently too.

So it isn't going to happen at least until that is done. Given the length of time it's taken from the EU/NA merge to the first of the asian, it might be months before we get this...

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

if this isnt real...it should be.

Avatar Exico

Avatar Exico

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Way to Cold at Home:Illnois and School:Iowa.

We Trip Hard On [AcID]

N/

I agree, It sounds that it all rumors. Ill believe it when it been mention on the Update Page, but with all these mean nothing until it mention by Anet or NCsoft.

PinoyRurik

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

PNAS

W/Mo

hope this is for real...
If it is, then this is enough to get those "Zaishen" Chest haters out there to start loving A.net again.

I havent been this excited about GW since it first came out.

GO GO A.NET!

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

I'm willing to give the "rumours" some heed. But then I have absolutely no investment in this anyway. I won't be excited or disappointed if it does/doesn't happen. I don't trade with people most of the time and my one or two forays into the Guru system has left me less than impressed. There is just too much time involved in it all and I'd rather be playing.

It isn't going to change my way of playing, so whether it does or doesn't happen isn't likely to effect me. I'm happy to keep merchanting rare items.

Sora267

Sora267

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
Assuming the merging of the "servers" is being performed to make this marketplace work properly there are still a couple of asian areas to be merged - I think they mentioned it in an update recently too.

So it isn't going to happen at least until that is done. Given the length of time it's taken from the EU/NA merge to the first of the asian, it might be months before we get this...
Heh, I never caught that they could have been doing the merging for this. Makes a ton of sense, though!

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
Check if the strings exist in other languages.

Internationalization is the final step, and requires a great deal of QA. If they have been translated, then this was worked on via production pipeline (i.e. serious business), and not just as a test.

Good point.

If anyone can read say...French or German, it would be wonderful if they could contribute to this by checking to see if there are any .dat files referring to Xunlai Trade. If there are, its a green light for sure.

Vitas

Vitas

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

[formerly] Tombs of the Primevals - healing B/Ps that try to be meat shields and pwning Darknesses

Are there any relevant XMp changes in the recent updates of the dat file? ...